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Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by ChristianNews: 8:00pm On Feb 26, 2021
[center]What is the meaning of the Church?[/center]

Even though many people have confused the meaning of church with just a building, it is clear that the church does not really refer to the physical building we can see.

The church actually means the-called-out people, people who have been called out of the world by the Word and the Spirit of God; and this makes them different from the worldly unsaved people.

But today there are many negative things that characterize the behaviour of the so-called church especially the leaders of the church.

What is the reality that we find in today's church?

In today's church we now have a large number of... Click below for details:

https://www.operanewsapp.com/ng/en/share/detail?news_id=772b3ec4c838b3f957794b25dc10bf31&news_entry_id=s6dd89ef2210226en_ng&open_type=tanscoded&request_id=news_33609a6b-3f37-4d34-b7a7-1609c97c5a0f&from=news
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by Nobody: 8:40pm On Feb 26, 2021
Op the answer is no no no

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Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:14pm On Feb 26, 2021
Jesus foresaw what will happen centuries after his ascension to heaven he asked "by the time i will come back to check what i laid down, will i still meet (Christianity) the same way i commissioned it?" Luke 18

So Jesus foresaw this but at the same time he made it clear that a group will be found doing exactly what he commissioned, it's left for each of us to IDENTIFY Jesus' group today! Matthew 24:45 smiley

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Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by johnw47: 10:38pm On Feb 26, 2021
with false jw's it's all about their group/people
with Christians it's all about Christ.

Joh_14:6  Jesus *said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.



there doesn't appear to be a lot of faith in some of the churches today
there is certainly faith in some individuals in the churches

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Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by Karlovych: 12:10am On Feb 27, 2021
grin grin

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Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:30am On Feb 27, 2021
I agree.

The present-day church and its leadership appears very different from the one depicted in the Bible in a lot of ways.

*The love for God is not as it used to be.

*The selflessness and commitment to the things of God is no longer as it was.

*The teachings today are very different from the teachings then.

*The level of immorality among leaders and members are significantly higher than it used to be at the time.

*The orientation of the leaders today is so much different from the orientation of the leaders of that church.

*The manifestation of power in today church is a far cry from what it used to be at the time and so on.

It's really hard to recognize the church today because it has significantly deviated and derailed from the standard of the old time church.

But I believe that revival is coming soon and the church gonna come back to what it used to be and even more, and whether the devil likes it or not, he wouldn't be able to stop it.

God bless.
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by johnw47: 1:34am On Feb 27, 2021
Karlovych:


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you mock the bible yet you use it to support what you say:

Karlovych:


embarassed embarassed .... They should have it in mind that they are being led to the hell they think are avoiding. Mark 10:25


Jas 1:8  A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by Karlovych: 2:14am On Feb 27, 2021
johnw47:


you mock the bible yet you use it to support what you say:




Jas 1:8  A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
Yet you all use that same flawed book to deceive gullible folks. I wasn't one of the drunk cavemen that wrote your bible, feel free to label my assertions the way you want.
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by johnw47: 4:51am On Feb 27, 2021
Karlovych:
Yet you all use that same flawed book to deceive gullible folks. I wasn't one of the drunk cavemen that wrote your bible, feel free to label my assertions the way you want.

i do and i did
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by Karlovych: 6:46am On Feb 27, 2021
johnw47:


i do and i did

Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by Shawl001(m): 6:59am On Feb 27, 2021
ChristianNews:
[center]What is the meaning of the Church?[/center]

Even though many people have confused the meaning of church with just a building, it is clear that the church does not really refer to the physical building we can see.

The church actually means the-called-out people, people who have been called out of the world by the Word and the Spirit of God; and this makes them different from the worldly unsaved people.

But today there are many negative things that characterize the behaviour of the so-called church especially the leaders of the church.

What is the reality that we find in today's church?

In today's church we now have a large number of... Click below for details:

https://www.operanewsapp.com/ng/en/share/detail?news_id=772b3ec4c838b3f957794b25dc10bf31&news_entry_id=s6dd89ef2210226en_ng&open_type=tanscoded&request_id=news_33609a6b-3f37-4d34-b7a7-1609c97c5a0f&from=news

IF it's not, how do you plan to correct it?
Or you brought it up, just for sarcasm?
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by johnw47: 9:52am On Feb 27, 2021
Karlovych:
Yet you all use that same flawed book to deceive gullible folks. I wasn't one of the drunk cavemen that wrote your bible, feel free to label my assertions the way you want.

well you come across as drunk anyway

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Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by Karlovych: 2:47pm On Feb 27, 2021
johnw47:


well you come across as drunk anyway

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Lol suit yourself, you can join your fellow drunk Christians in the act.

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Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by sonmvayina(m): 3:10pm On Feb 27, 2021
Who died for the sins of jesus?
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by johnw47: 10:14pm On Feb 27, 2021
Karlovych:
Lol suit yourself, you can join your fellow drunk Christians in the act.

many are fooled into thinking they are christian
there actions show if they are or not

as for u:

Psa_14:1  The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds; There is no one who does good.
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by johnw47: 10:19pm On Feb 27, 2021
sonmvayina:
Who died for the sins of jesus?

mor on

1Jn 3:5  You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin.
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by Karlovych: 11:14pm On Feb 27, 2021
johnw47:


many are fooled into thinking they are christian
there actions show if they are or not

as for u:

Psa_14:1  The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds; There is no one who does good.

grin grin

Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by johnw47: 11:31pm On Feb 27, 2021
Karlovych:
grin grin

there are many laughing fools like you who believe the Bible is full of lies and obscenity's:

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool 

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


you would make a good so called jehovah's witness
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by bobestman(m): 11:46pm On Feb 27, 2021
No man can die for your sins.This was very clear when Abraham wanted to offer his son as an offering but the Creator later showed him a Ram. The creator is not a murderer and has no pleasure in the death of anyone. The Messiah's mission is to restore his ppl who are the 2 broken houses(Isreal and Judah) but when he came back then in Palestine, Isreal had been sacked for their sins and they fled to Africa. When He didn't see them, he went to Africa to find them( the reason he said he is looking for the lost tribes of the house of Isreal). Rome and some rebellion Jews killed him to boycott that mission. He was killed the same way they kill Africans then, by lynching on a tree. You are only told to believe in him and you will be saved . You are also the one to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. The idea of dying for sins was added by Rome to put themselves in the book. You can only save yourself by reason of your righteousness.
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by Karlovych: 5:14am On Feb 28, 2021
johnw47:


there are many laughing fools like you who believe the Bible is full of lies and obscenity's:

Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool 

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


you would make a good so called jehovah's witness

Keep blabbing and quote irrelevant things, remind me the number of people the devil murdered and the ones your god murdered.
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by Blackmoran(m): 7:33am On Feb 28, 2021
in the first place jesus never created a church, and secondly christianity is a way of life
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by tobechi74: 8:13am On Feb 28, 2021
Paul change it
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by johnw47: 8:27am On Feb 28, 2021
Karlovych:
Keep blabbing and quote irrelevant things, remind me the number of people the devil murdered and the ones your god murdered.

dope, i'm here to show you what you are
and who is your daddy

Psa_14:1 The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds; There is no one who does good.

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by sonmvayina(m): 8:42am On Feb 28, 2021
johnw47:


mor on

1Jn 3:5  You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin.

So a son that calls his mother "woman" and disrespects her has not broken Gods commandments

"Honour your father and mother".

Or when he and his disciples stole corn from peoples farm to eat without asking the owner.

Should i go on?
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by johnw47: 8:47am On Feb 28, 2021
sonmvayina:


So a son that calls his mother "woman" and disrespects her has not broken Gods commandments

"Honour your father and mother".

Or when he and his disciples stole corn from peoples farm to eat without asking the owner.

Should i go on?


Jesus never disrespected His mother
and He never stole

you clearly don't understand or believe God's word, antichrist dil
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by Nobody: 9:02am On Feb 28, 2021
no
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by sonmvayina(m): 10:10am On Feb 28, 2021
johnw47:


Jesus never disrespected His mother
and He never stole

you clearly don't understand or believe God's word, antichrist dil

Lol...nah people like you dey defend buhari and the bandits....you wilk make a good lawyer...

Since you can defend a lie..
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by johnw47: 10:41am On Feb 28, 2021
sonmvayina:


Lol...nah people like you dey defend buhari and the bandits....you wilk make a good lawyer...

Since you can defend a lie..

truly Jesus never sinned know nothing mor on

1Jn 3:5 You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin.
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by sonmvayina(m): 3:31pm On Feb 28, 2021
johnw47:


truly Jesus never sinned know nothing mor on

1Jn 3:5 You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin.


He disrespected his mother

He stole from peoples farm

He scatered people going about their legitimate business and they lost money and insulting and wiping his elders..

Are those not sins?
Re: Is Today's Church The Same As The One Jesus Died For? by johnw47: 10:24pm On Feb 28, 2021
sonmvayina:


He disrespected his mother

He stole from peoples farm

He scatered people going about their legitimate business and they lost money and insulting and wiping his elders..

Are those not sins?

selling goods in Jesus Fathers house was not legitimate business mor on
post verses for the things you talk off and i will show how you are a dum dum

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