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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 12:47pm On Mar 02, 2021
These guys are illiterates. Forex are held by Central Banks for purpose of settling trade payments - imports, travel and debts. They do not belong to gov - held by Treasury - like soverign welath funds. They do not constitute savings.
Jonraid:
Our reserves are more than adequate. They cover at least 4-5 months of our import which is the recommended timeframe. Revenues generated have a larger say when it comes to payment of debt.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 12:49pm On Mar 02, 2021
GHC 875 million is 152m dollars.
Just30:
Ghana sovereign wealth fund is way above 150 million dollars

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:54pm On Mar 02, 2021
rvp20182:
GHC 875 million is 152m dollars.
you are really dumb

GHANA Sovereign wealth funds have a total of almost 5 billion dollars in them.

You can refer to yesterday, I posted a half year report on the amount that went into each of them for 2020.
These funds together, received 1.8billion dollars in 2020.
GIIF
GSF
GHF

Report on half year receivables

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:56pm On Mar 02, 2021
And even if Kenyan banks were to lend to the government, the effect won't be as devastating. Kenya has the largest cooperative movements in Africa if I'm not wrong holding about six billion dollars in members deposits. These are just SACCOS. About 14 million Kenyans are members of this SACCOS.

Our financial sector is a bit sophisticated.

''SACCOs are popular in African countries (Kenya, Uganda, South Africa and Malawi, to name a few). SACCOs have 14 million3 members in Kenya, with Ksh 600 billion in deposits and Ksh 800 billion in assets. In Uganda, over 520,000 adults in 2013 were SACCO members. As per AMFIU’s (Association of Microfinance Institutions of Uganda)2016 report4, there were 2,000 MFIs and SACCOs in Uganda.''

https://www.obopay.com/blog/payments-that-matter-saccos-in-africa/
rvp20182:
Because we are credit worthy; and we do not want to crowd out private lending like nigeria ; there has to be balance; otherwise you'll get nigeria mess; where banks are loaning to gov; not to Nigerians.

This is why gov goes for euro bond; so banks can lend to anybody; in kenya banks HAWK loan on the streets.

Your soverign wealth is very little..stop lying.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 1:01pm On Mar 02, 2021
How much is net - after you remove the borrowings and the expenditure.
Just30:
you are really dumb

GHANA Sovereign wealth funds have a total of almost 5 billion dollars in them.

You can refer to yesterday, I posted a half year report on the amount that went into each of them for 2020.
These funds together, received 1.8billion dollars in 2020.
GIIF
GSF
GHF

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:03pm On Mar 02, 2021
rvp20182:
How much is net - after you remove the borrowings and the expenditure.
there were no expenditures from the fund in 2020.

The will be a 500 million dollars draw down from the Ghana Infrastructure Investment Fund this year, to finance the expansion of Tema motorway.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 1:03pm On Mar 02, 2021
look at the net closing value
Just30:
you are really dumb

GHANA Sovereign wealth funds have a total of almost 5 billion dollars in them.

You can refer to yesterday, I posted a half year report on the amount that went into each of them for 2020.
These funds together, received 1.8billion dollars in 2020.
GIIF
GSF
GHF

Report on half year receivables

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:07pm On Mar 02, 2021
rvp20182:
Konza, Tatu, Two River Social City, Northland City,Vipingo City, Lamu city and even Isiolo resort cities are all actively being developed.

Konza is technocity like Cairo's techno city

so far phase 1 is on course
800 -Million Dollars Comitted
68-Parcels Available
53-Parcels Taken
22-Parcels under Discussion

Keep dreaming, Konza Technopolis is way way behind schedule, the city is expected to be completed the year 2030 but is only 10% completed reason be that, nobody wants to invest in Kenya knowing fully well that Kenya's total public debt has reach 63 percent of economic output or GDP this year. The estimated cost of the project is $14.5 billion. So far, only $800 million has been committed, according to the project’s main website, Eco Atlantic land has been fully sold and numerous projects are going,
Tatu is a dead case it's only 13% completed, the same company "planning" to build 1200 unites of houses has shiffted goal to a new city in Lagos called Alaro City, the city got started in January 2019 and 80% of it's land sold out already, Alaro City is planned as a 2,000-hectare new Nigerian city located in the North West Quadrant of the Lekki Free Zone.
To date, more than 35 companies including Starium FZE, a subsidiary of BUA Group, Mantrac Caterpillar, HMD, and Ariel Foods FZE, the largest and most technically advanced ready-to-eat therapeutic foods producer in Africa, are operational, designing, or building their facilities in Alaro City.
3.5 kilometers of initial road networks and a modular 50MVA power plant are also under construction.
Two River Social City, Northland City,Vipingo City, Lamu city and the rest are just tiny estates and not to be tagged "city".

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:08pm On Mar 02, 2021
rvp20182:
look at the net closing value
Net income for the period July to December means, interest earned by the fund after tax.

So it is added to the fund receivables for the half year, in it closing book value

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:09pm On Mar 02, 2021
Jonraid:
Almost a half of our debt is domestic.
Stop deceiving your self , just accept that Kenyatta is a criminal.
"Kenya External Debt reached 34.7 USD bn in Dec 2020, compared with 34.3 USD bn in the previous month. Kenya External Debt: USD mn data is updated monthly, available from Sep 1999 to Dec 2020. The data reached an all-time high of 34.7 USD bn in Dec 2020 and a record low of 4.2 USD bn in Sep 1999."

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 1:12pm On Mar 02, 2021
Nonsense. Tatu city for example is on phase 2 - 2,500 sold off - next 2,500 being sold.
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/markets/market-news/tatu-city-gets-nema-nod-for-second-phase-2292134
68816419:

Keep dreaming, Konza Technopolis is way way behind schedule, the city is expected to be completed the year 2030 but is only 10% completed reason be that, nobody wants to invest in Kenya knowing fully well that Kenya's total public debt has reach 63 percent of economic output or GDP this year. The estimated cost of the project is $14.5 billion. So far, only $800 million has been committed, according to the project’s main website, Eco Atlantic land has been fully sold and numerous projects are going,
Tatu is a dead case it's only 13% completed, the same company "planning" to build 1200 unites of houses has shiffted goal to a new city in Lagos called Alaro City, the city got started in January 2019 and 80% of it's land sold out already, Alaro City is planned as a 2,000-hectare new Nigerian city located in the North West Quadrant of the Lekki Free Zone.
To date, more than 35 companies including Starium FZE, a subsidiary of BUA Group, Mantrac Caterpillar, HMD, and Ariel Foods FZE, the largest and most technically advanced ready-to-eat therapeutic foods producer in Africa, are operational, designing, or building their facilities in Alaro City.
3.5 kilometers of initial road networks and a modular 50MVA power plant are also under construction.
Two River Social City, Northland City,Vipingo City, Lamu city and the rest are just tiny estates and not to be tagged "city".

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:15pm On Mar 02, 2021
How does your statement contradict mine? It is a known fact that almost a half of our debt is domestic!
68816419:

Stop deceiving your self , just accept that Kenyatta is a criminal.
"Kenya External Debt reached 34.7 USD bn in Dec 2020, compared with 34.3 USD bn in the previous month. Kenya External Debt: USD mn data is updated monthly, available from Sep 1999 to Dec 2020. The data reached an all-time high of 34.7 USD bn in Dec 2020 and a record low of 4.2 USD bn in Sep 1999."

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 1:16pm On Mar 02, 2021
GIIF - small potatos

The first results of the GIIF have confirmed this in an impressive way. Over the past three and a half years, GIIF has invested US $ 275 million in a portfolio of 12 infrastructure projects in 6 different sectors across Ghana.

Just30:
Net income for the period July to December means, interest earned by the fund after tax.

So it is added to the fund receivables for the half year, in it closing book value

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Roan77: 1:17pm On Mar 02, 2021
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:19pm On Mar 02, 2021
Devki Steel Mills is coming up nicely in Kwale County Kenya.


It will be the second largest raw steel mill in Africa outside South Africa.

It will consume about 55MW of power when in operation. Devki plans to generate it's own power.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:23pm On Mar 02, 2021
rvp20182:
GIIF - small potatos

The first results of the GIIF have confirmed this in an impressive way. Over the past three and a half years, GIIF has invested US $ 275 million in a portfolio of 12 infrastructure projects in 6 different sectors across Ghana.

I've always asked you to deal with facts and not fiction.

Small potato yet Kenya does not have a fund of it size


It will singlehandedly fund a 25 kilometre concrete motorway with 12 lanes and 7 interchanges, to the tune of 500 million dollars

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:35pm On Mar 02, 2021
rvp20182:
Because we are credit worthy; and we do not want to crowd out private lending like nigeria ; there has to be balance; otherwise you'll get nigeria mess; where banks are loaning to gov; not to Nigerians.

This is why gov goes for euro bond; so banks can lend to anybody; in kenya banks HAWK loan on the streets.

Your soverign wealth is very little..stop lying.

That's y your country is collapsing, sooner or later the Buble will Burst .
You lend money to firms with no capacity to repay , companies like Nakummat, Uchumi and the rest, are given bad loans when their balance sheets are cooked by the Highly corrupt Indians and Kikuyus and u expect to compete with the giant of Africa...my guy wake up.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 1:36pm On Mar 02, 2021
what difference does having a fund and funding through budget makes
Just30:
I've always asked you to deal with facts and not fiction.

Small potato yet Kenya does not have a fund of it size


It will singlehandedly fund a 25 kilometre concrete motorway with 12 lanes and 7 interchanges, to the tune of 500 million dollars

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 1:38pm On Mar 02, 2021
From your own report NIgeria banks are allowed to do whatever they want - besides charging 30% interest rate.
68816419:

That's y your country is collapsing, sooner or later the Buble will Burst .
You lend money to firms with no capacity to repay , companies like Nakummat, Uchumi and the rest, are given bad loans when their balance sheets are cooked by the Highly corrupt Indians and Kikuyus and u expect to compete with the giant of Africa...my guy wake up.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:44pm On Mar 02, 2021
Jonraid:
How does your statement contradict mine? It is a known fact that almost a half of our debt is domestic!
My question is, how can a tiny country with a smaller population, economy, Manufacturing, Tourism, Agriculture and even fewer on going projects than both Nigeria and SA has far more external debts than these giant countries?,And how comes your external debt keeps rising on a monthly basis, what are the average Kenyans doing about it?.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:45pm On Mar 02, 2021
rvp20182:
what difference does having a fund and funding through budget makes
the difference is when you have a fund, you can fund large projects based on it balance sheet while the other without a fund, borrow largely to fill it budget to build even a 1 million dollars footbridge

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:45pm On Mar 02, 2021
rvp20182:
From your own report NIgeria banks are allowed to do whatever they want - besides charging 30% interest rate.
Like what?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 1:54pm On Mar 02, 2021
Very rich coming from a Nigerian

Kenya Credit Rating
Rating Agency Rating Outlook
Standard & Poor's B+ negative
Moody's Investors Service B2 negative
Fitch Ratings B+ negative


Nigeria: Sovereign credit ratings
Agency Rating Date
Standard & Poor's B- 3/2020
Standard & Poor's B 2/2020
Moody's B3 12/2019
Fitch B+ 12/2019

68816419:

My question is, how can a tiny country with a smaller population, economy, Manufacturing, Tourism, Agriculture and even fewer on going projects than both Nigeria and SA has far more external debts than these giant countries?,And how comes your external debt keeps rising on a monthly basis, what are the average Kenyans doing about it?.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:54pm On Mar 02, 2021
How is Nigeria a giant with a per capita of less than 2500 USD?
68816419:

My question is, how can a tiny country with a smaller population, economy, Manufacturing, Tourism, Agriculture and even fewer on going projects than both Nigeria and SA has far more external debts than these giant countries?,And how comes your external debt keeps rising on a monthly basis, what are the average Kenyans doing about it?.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:57pm On Mar 02, 2021
1 AND 2- Downtown Nairobi

3-Parklands District,Nairobi

4- Vipingo Ridge,Kilifi

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 2:10pm On Mar 02, 2021
68816419:

My question is, how can a tiny country with a smaller population, economy, Manufacturing, Tourism, Agriculture and even fewer on going projects than both Nigeria and SA has far more external debts than these giant countries?,And how comes your external debt keeps rising on a monthly basis, what are the average Kenyans doing about it?.

The Question every right thinking kenyans need to answer.

Ballooning debt with no correspondent infrastructure, most of those debt are packing up in the kenyattas pocket.

The rest are used to service the crazy debt they have incurred while using their small insignificant infrastructure as collateral.

Almost 40 billion dollar in debt and the only significant project is an elevated flyover grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Shaytun: 2:14pm On Mar 02, 2021
Jonraid:
How is Nigeria a giant with a per capita of less than 2500 USD?

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=NG

bigger than kenya own despite having times four the population.

Kenya is a very poor country grin cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 2:21pm On Mar 02, 2021
So you are not a giant then?

Because the difference is so neglible.
Shaytun:


https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?locations=NG

bigger than kenya own despite having times four the population.

Kenya is a very poor country grin cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 2:22pm On Mar 02, 2021
Kenya

1.Mombasa

2.Malindi

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 2:52pm On Mar 02, 2021
Shaytun:


The Question every right thinking kenyans need to answer.

Ballooning debt with no correspondent infrastructure, most of those debt are packing up in the kenyattas pocket.

The rest are used to service the crazy debt they have incurred while using their small insignificant infrastructure as collateral.

Almost 40 billion dollar in debt and the only significant project is an elevated flyover grin grin grin
Imagine building a 27Km double lanes elevator flyover , no land reclamation, not on water,little compensation for Sh59 billion?

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