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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:46pm On Mar 03, 2021
bixton:



You're saying you've already built the structure and at the moment you're on the 3 rd floor?


Don't know how you can incorporate it to the pent house section. But you can do your pent house design in such a way that the decking slab extends to carry a concrete cast tank.

Create an exit door via the pent house to get access the tank. The reserved opening can as well serve as a sit out for quiet moments.

The project is still in the design phase.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 9:47pm On Mar 03, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


1) Show pictures of 5 pieces meeting the specs that you stated.

2) Where is the location? If close I’ll pick up.

3) It’s not about being a millionaire but setting standards by using specific processes and materials.

Thanks.

I understand u sir, all am saying is that is expensive to use it for roofing sir

According to Google this wood masonia is best for the below applications

The wood (trade names: mansonia, bété, African black walnut, pruno) is used for general and high-class joinery, cabinet work, furniture, turnery, decorative veneer and handicrafts. It is also used in construction for doors and windows, in railway coaches and shop fittings, and for boxes and crates

Location Ibadan

Thanks

Sorry for late respond, I was busy sir

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:56pm On Mar 03, 2021
n3xt:


The project is still in the design phase.

Since it's still in design phase and if it's a contemporary build and roof system going with a pent house. I think what I said should be okay. Do your structural to be able to hold a concrete tank on that section after the decking slab. The quantity of water to use daily should be ascertained so as to determined the height/width/length of the tank.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by LeJeun3: 10:19pm On Mar 03, 2021
michlins:
if you have the funds, go into the industry. Few weeks ago, I was told to buy wooden doors for a client. I couldn't because the furniture maker couldn't guarantee the time of delivery. His main reason was the unavailability of dry wood




Which is reasonable......

Except you have a kiln to dry the wood.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 10:49pm On Mar 03, 2021
n3xt:


I’m a learner with capital “L” on this. ;

Thanks for sharing.
We are all learners...always open to new knowledge

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 11:49pm On Mar 03, 2021
mountmoriah:


I understand u sir, all am saying is that is expensive to use it for roofing sir

According to Google this wood masonia is best for the below applications

The wood (trade names: mansonia, bété, African black walnut, pruno) is used for general and high-class joinery, cabinet work, furniture, turnery, decorative veneer and handicrafts. It is also used in construction for doors and windows, in railway coaches and shop fittings, and for boxes and crates

Location Ibadan

Thanks

Sorry for late respond, I was busy sir
I grew up with these woods lol masonia is purely for furniture same class as Lagos wood, Walnut and guaria.WIndow/door frames use to be comb wood and ceiling nodging was Abura. When you are from Sapele you will know all these.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 2:08am On Mar 04, 2021
LeJeun3:





Which is reasonable......

Except you have a kiln to dry the wood.

that's where the funds comes in. There are very few players in the industry and the demand is high. You will definitely recoup your funds

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 2:21am On Mar 04, 2021
mountmoriah:


I understand u sir, all am saying is that is expensive to use it for roofing sir

According to Google this wood masonia is best for the below applications

The wood (trade names: mansonia, bété, African black walnut, pruno) is used for general and high-class joinery, cabinet work, furniture, turnery, decorative veneer and handicrafts. It is also used in construction for doors and windows, in railway coaches and shop fittings, and for boxes and crates

Location Ibadan

Thanks

Sorry for late respond, I was busy sir

That doesn’t look like Mesonia to me Sir, are you sure? Looks like melania.

Pictured is the last Mesonia I used.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 2:24am On Mar 04, 2021
somehow:


Underground tank without the possibility of getting contaminated?

No chance of contamination when done right.

Storex inside concrete pit with different options for the top based on location.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:41am On Mar 04, 2021
erico2k2:

I grew up with these woods lol masonia is purely for furniture same class as Lagos wood, Walnut and guaria.WIndow/door frames use to be comb wood and ceiling nodging was Abura. When you are from Sapele you will know all these.

grin

Is it true there’s sapele water?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 3:48am On Mar 04, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


That doesn’t look like Mesonia to me Sir, are you sure? Looks like melania.

Pictured is the last Mesonia I used.
lovely, loads of memories this is bringing back! angry
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 3:49am On Mar 04, 2021
n3xt:


grin

Is it true there’s sapele water?
yep, Sapele Water and there is Sapele Wood too grin grin grin grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:58am On Mar 04, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


No chance of contamination when done right.

Storex inside concrete pit with different options for the top based on location.

To achieve something like this in a place Lagos will cost you more than erecting a tank tower.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:04am On Mar 04, 2021
michlins:
that's where the funds comes in. There are very few players in the industry and the demand is high. You will definitely recoup your funds

Every business has its own tricks o. Buying the equipment won’t guarantee you high ROI but understanding the tricks and knowing how to swim with the sharks.

_____

A lot of people (especially diaspora) jumped into trucking and haulage business because they were told it’s a money spinner. Years later, they regretted it.

Yet one local man Chekitaut has been in the game for decade + and he’s still waxing strong.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:14am On Mar 04, 2021
bixton:



Create an exit door via the pent house to get access the tank. The reserved opening can as well serve as a sit out for quiet moments.

I’ve done all these before coming here. I mean trying to create a solution for a problem that’s really not there.

These type of problems are exactly what led me to having 5 entrance/exits (a potential source of security breach) in my personal build.

Some design features are nice-to-have but we try to make them a must-have.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 4:15am On Mar 04, 2021
n3xt:


To achieve something like this in a place Lagos will cost you more than erecting a tank tower.

To each his own I guess.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:22am On Mar 04, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


To each his own I guess.

If you dig more than 3ft in some location, you’d land inside the lagoon grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:27am On Mar 04, 2021
Johntemmy:
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That's special order....
No prob.

obe todun..owo lo pa.

Always put your best feet forward. That’s the only way to build a unique brand.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 4:35am On Mar 04, 2021
LeJeun3:





Which is reasonable......

Except you have a kiln to dry the wood.

Think KILN think FAN+ Heater and D[b]EHUMIDIFIER[/b] as that is what the KILN does
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:55am On Mar 04, 2021
@Egunmogaji2 You can check (Forestry Research Institute of Nigeria) FRIN behind Aleshinloye market.

I think they have the right equipment for drying woods and a very great laboratory. My dad retired from there.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 5:01am On Mar 04, 2021
n3xt:
@Egunmogaji2 You can check (Forestry Research Institute of Nigeria) FRIN behind Aleshinloye market.

I think they have the right equipment for drying woods and a very great laboratory. My dad retired from there.
Have you checked the possibility of building your own KILN?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 5:22am On Mar 04, 2021
n3xt:


I’ve done all these before coming here. I mean trying to create a solution for a problem that’s really not there.

These type of problems are exactly what led me to having 5 entrance/exits (a potential source of security breach) in my personal build.

Some design features are nice-to-have but we try to make them a must-have.


Pre-preventing a security breach post occuring. grin grin grin grin

Let me ask. What's your best layout of access to the pent house? Does it have a stand-alone staircase or access is through the master bedroom(any bedroom) depending on its possible extended usage?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 5:37am On Mar 04, 2021
n3xt:


grin

Is it true there’s sapele water?

Sapele water means local gin(ogogoro or kai-kai or original). The strongest type is used to mix with certain roots/herbs to cure certain ailments. Just one shot of the original will determine the degree of mental carriage. grin grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:18am On Mar 04, 2021
bixton:



Pre-preventing a security breach post occuring. grin grin grin grin

Let me ask. What's your best layout of access to the pent house? Does it have a stand-alone staircase or access is through the master bedroom(any bedroom) depending on its possible extended usage?

The access is through the main building. Here’s the flow:

- You enter right the from main entrance or the kitchen.

- Go through the staircase to the first floor where there are 3 bedrooms and a family lounge.

- Go on another staircase leading to the master suite and the terrace on the pent floor.

- From there you get access to the tank.

________

I won’t advice or commit a dedicated staircase to this because it’s not worth it.

Talking about security breach grin, all these “plumber wound madam” or “housemaid stole Oga’s gold wristwatch” stories are part of the risks we are talking about because my first question will be “How did s/he get access into the main building?” And to do what exactly?

May the answer not be that he came to fix a plumbing leak.

Just imagine having to open/gain access to all of the main building because of water problem in the BQ.

I always take into consideration all these small issues in my designs. The client might ask for it but my job is to work with him to help him make the right choice.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:23am On Mar 04, 2021
erico2k2:

Have you checked the possibility of building your own KILN?

I actually wanted everything but I realize I can’t have it all.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 6:35am On Mar 04, 2021
n3xt:


Every business has its own tricks o. Buying the equipment won’t guarantee you high ROI but understanding the tricks and knowing how to swim with the sharks.

_____

A lot of people (especially diaspora) jumped into trucking and haulage business because they were told it’s a money spinner. Years later, they regretted it.

Yet one local man Chekitaut has been in the game for decade + and he’s still waxing strong.
you played two entirely different scenario and so can't be compared. Building a bungalow from diaspora is like building a duplex from Nigeria because everyone will want to spend your dollar including people who didn't work for it. They will bill you tire. Baba chekitaut is waxing stronger because he manages his trucks from home and is ready to roll in the mud with the driver if he ever tries nonsense. Abroad people no get that luxury.


Having said that,if you venture in this wood drying business, you need area with good power supply and must be close to the market. You can't site it in Nnewi because everyone buys iron doors. But Lagos has high demand for wooden doors so take it close to them. You see that company, you must be present daily in it to avoid your workers taking the funds home and sending you the bills and salary to pay. Then you need to have access to woods on steady

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Johntemmy(m): 7:15am On Mar 04, 2021
mountmoriah:


Like I said, I don't have it, the last time i sold Osan or Akala wood was last year and it was N1, 500 then, but maybe the location and the source of the guy that have it is different from yours that is why your prices are different, I wouldn't know but I won't determine price for someone product or materials I don't control.

I hope am making sense to you bro.


yeah I got your point bro... both Lagosian and ibadan people too always come down here to buy woods from us that's why the price must not the same.so it's business.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Johntemmy(m): 7:16am On Mar 04, 2021
n3xt:


Always put your best feet forward. That’s the only way to build a unique brand.


okay sir..
well Noted.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AZUH: 7:34am On Mar 04, 2021
Good morning everyone. How much wil it cost an engineer to build four flat ( 2bed each ) with labor no material . I mean the skeleton. Any idea ? Ps: no material just labor

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hakeem4(m): 7:36am On Mar 04, 2021
AZUH:
Good morning everyone. How much wil it cost an engineer to build four flat ( 2bed each ) with labor no material . I mean the skeleton. Any idea ? Ps: no material just labor
do you have drawings and what state are you in
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