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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 3:56pm On Mar 05, 2021
Amoto94:
Chelsea are ready to table an offer for Bayern Munich centre back Niklas Sule ahead of the summer transfer window.

Source- @Abendzeitung


Roman & the board need a transfer adviser.
If a player is not of true value, don't court him. We can't continue throwing money away on media/Agent hyped players.
Why can't they order a clearout of fringe players & those refusing to sign new contracts to reduce the numbers in the squad ?
We don't need another CB. Two players in the mould of a creative MDF & a top finisher would uplift this current squad.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Lana1(m): 4:20pm On Mar 05, 2021
Liverpool is closer to relegation than the top of the table.
Where's that NikeBaller that likes making noise?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 4:24pm On Mar 05, 2021
Jodera:
Actually, most handball you see aren't deliberate. Why I believe kante wasn't intentional about it I also feel he was fortunate. Also I think this handball rule is way too inconsistent.

Did you see the disallowed goal for Fulham ystdy. What's your opinion about it if you don't mind

It’s really funny how they are trying to explain away such clear handball. Kante that had his hands stretched apart like that person talk say it is in natural position grin

Instead of just agreeing Kante was lucky because anybody that watched that Fulham game and watched Chelsea’s will be confused as to how exactly VAR works and how handballs are judged.

Somebody even said it wasn’t intentional cheesy. Sissoko in the champions league final was seen pointing to his players to mark Liverpool players out before the ball touched his outstretched hands; it was clear he had no intentions of handling the ball but he still had a penalty awarded against him

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:28pm On Mar 05, 2021
Lana1:
Liverpool is closer to relegation than the top of the table.
Where's that NikeBaller that likes making noise?

Or Kendrick93
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 4:28pm On Mar 05, 2021
BlueRayDick:


It’s really funny how they are trying to explain away such clear handball. Kante that had his hands stretched apart like that person talk say it is in natural position grin

Instead of just agreeing Kante was lucky because anybody that watched that Fulham game and watched Chelsea’s will be confused as to how exactly VAR works and how handballs are judged
It's a different rule for attackers and defenders
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 4:31pm On Mar 05, 2021
Trevor012:

It's a different rule for attackers and defenders

What are the respective rules for attackers and defenders ?

Is Kante an attacker or defender ?

At what point does an attacker becomes a defender ?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 4:35pm On Mar 05, 2021
BlueRayDick:


What are the respective rules for attackers and defenders ?

Is Kante an attacker or defender ?

At what point does an attacker becomes a defender ?
In his 18yard box.


The rules are different for handballs leading up to goals and handballs by a player in their own penalty areas. So your Fulham comparism is meaningless.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 4:40pm On Mar 05, 2021
Trevor012:

In his 18yard box.


The rules are different for handballs leading up to goals and handballs by a player in their own penalty areas. So your Fulham comparism is meaningless.

Can please quote these said rules ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 4:51pm On Mar 05, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Can please quote these said rules ?
Do your research next time before jumping into a discussion

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timay(m): 4:55pm On Mar 05, 2021
Trevor012:

In his 18yard box.


The rules are different for handballs leading up to goals and handballs by a player in their own penalty areas. So your Fulham comparism is meaningless.

You don't have to explain everything. Kante got lucky. Move on. Even Chelsea fans knows. Yesterday was Kante's lucky day. In other times the decision would have gone against him. So rest
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 5:00pm On Mar 05, 2021
timay:


You don't have to explain everything. Kante got lucky. Move on. Even Chelsea fans knows. Yesterday was Kante's lucky day. In other times the decision would have gone against him. So rest
Mr Man shut up. I have no business if Kante was lucky or not yesterday. Drawing comparism with what happened at Fulham and Chelsea when it's an entirely different situation is what am correcting. Now bounce
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 5:07pm On Mar 05, 2021
Trevor012:

Do your research next time before jumping into a discussion

Look at this one forming nonsense undecided

You ignorantly claimed Kante was adjudged handball because he was in a defensive position ; as if there’s a specific rule that says ball handled in defensive position will not be judged as a foul. We asked you to provide evidence of such rules being in place Na okoto meow follow ....smh

In case you don’t know, once a player makes his body bigger with his arm and handles the ball in the process it handball irrespective of his intentions.

By the way , I don’t recall quoting you before you jumped into my mentions

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 5:08pm On Mar 05, 2021
Tesla dropping like stone. nitrogen, Elon Musk go soon leave Bezos dey drag shirt with Dangote. Like I said, when Technology stocks cool off, the small caps and Tesla will get hammered massively as they are the poster boys of overevaluation.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 5:16pm On Mar 05, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Look at this one forming nonsense undecided

You ignorantly claimed Kante was adjudged handball because he was in a defensive position ; as if there’s a specific rule that says ball handled in defensive position will not be judged as a foul. We asked you to provide evidence of such rules being in place Na okoto meow follow ....smh

In case you don’t know, once a player makes his body bigger with his arm and handles the ball in the process it handball irrespective of his intentions.

By the way , I don’t recall quoting you before you jumped into my mentions

Tell me the similarities between what happened at Chelsea and Fulham?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:16pm On Mar 05, 2021
BikeMan:
When your handball leads to a goal, the goal will be ruled off, that's what happened yesterday.

Kante's hand was also in a natural position but he was obstructing any goal.
I'm sure you want to write "not in a natural position" ( grin)cos it's evident his hand was well outstretched from his body wen the incident happened.

Anyways, please if you can watch the replay/highlight of Fulham's game ystdy(esp the disallowed goal), I would love to hear your opinion on it with respect to that of Kante too
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:19pm On Mar 05, 2021
timbros:


Pre VAR era, some refs would have given a penalty. Agreed. But it would have been way too harsh.

I didn't watch the Fulham game. I'll have to check it to give my opinion.
I don't think it would have been harsh. It's not as if firmino deliberately aimed for his hand.
Who knows, that might have resulted to a goal if it wasn't handled.

Anyways, if you can watch the replay/highlight of the Fulham's game involving the handball, I would gladly like to hear your opinion
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:27pm On Mar 05, 2021
BlueRayDick:


It’s really funny how they are trying to explain away such clear handball. Kante that had his hands stretched apart like that person talk say it is in natural position grin

Instead of just agreeing Kante was lucky because anybody that watched that Fulham game and watched Chelsea’s will be confused as to how exactly VAR works and how handballs are judged.

Somebody even said it wasn’t intentional cheesy. Sissoko in the champions league final was seen pointing to his players to mark Liverpool players out before the ball touched his outstretched hands; it was clear he had no intentions of handling the ball but he still had a penalty awarded against him
It was really clear. I've to watch the replay over and over again to see if there's any reason why it wasn't given, but I just couldn't find any. What even made it funny was how same day Fulham was denied a goal cos of a handball In which the offending player's hand was even in his body (that's a natural position).

Kante was indeed lucky but var inconsistencies is killing the game. Now players and coaches don't even know which rule is which again... And I think that's the annoying part.
Also it might breed room for corruption cos the rules aren't as transparent as it was before and nobody will be held responsible as the refs and officiating body will just hide under the illusion called Var
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 5:28pm On Mar 05, 2021
Lana1:
Liverpool is closer to relegation than the top of the table.
Where's that NikeBaller that likes making noise?

He's hidden somewhere nursing his grief grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 5:33pm On Mar 05, 2021
Trevor012:

Tell me the similarities between what happened at Chelsea and Fulham?

IFAB rules okays it for a goal to be disallowed if an attacking player handles the ball before a goal or before a goal scoring opportunity.

Going by this rule the Fulham’s VAR decision was fair even though the handball was accidental.

However , the ref’s decision in the Chelsea match was not in tandem with what IFAB says about handballs . My post was about the inconsistencies of VAR in judging match situations according to laid down rules.

You are the only who came up with comparisons and what have you.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 5:35pm On Mar 05, 2021
Ibime:
Tesla dropping like stone. nitrogen, Elon Musk go soon leave Bezos dey drag shirt with Dangote. Like I said, when Technology stocks cool off, the small caps and Tesla will get hammered massively as they are the poster boys of overevaluation.


Post taken down.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 5:35pm On Mar 05, 2021
Jodera:
It was really clear. I've to watch the replay over and over again to see if there's any reason why it wasn't given, but I just couldn't find any. What even made it funny was how same day Fulham was denied a goal cos of a handball In which the offending player's hand was even in his body (that's a natural position).

Kante was indeed lucky but var inconsistencies is killing the game. Now players and coaches don't even know which rule is which again... And I think that's the annoying part.
Also it might breed room for corruption cos the rules aren't as transparent as it was before and nobody will be held responsible as the refs and officiating body will just hide under the illusion called Var

I don’t think anybody can give a valid reason why the Kante ball wasn’t penalized . Let’s just say it was a regrettable error on the part of the ref and VAR
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 5:36pm On Mar 05, 2021
Ibime:
Tesla dropping like stone. nitrogen, Elon Musk go soon leave Bezos dey drag shirt with Dangote. Like I said, when Technology stocks cool off, the small caps and Tesla will get hammered massively as they are the poster boys of overevaluation.


Post taken down.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:38pm On Mar 05, 2021
BlueRayDick:


I don’t think anybody can give a valid reason why the Kante ball wasn’t penalized . Let’s just say it was a regrettable error in the part of the ref and VAR
Yeah... True
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 5:39pm On Mar 05, 2021
BlueRayDick:


IFAB rules okays it for a goal to be disallowed if an attacking player handles the ball before a goal or before a goal scoring opportunity.

Going by this rule the Fulham’s VAR decision was fair even though the handball was accidental.

However , the ref’s decision in the Chelsea match was not in tandem with what IFAB says about handballs . My post was about the inconsistencies of VAR in judging match situations according to laid down rules.

You are the only who came up with comparisons and what have you.
There are no inconsistencies. Like I told you before rules are different for attackers and defenders. Bringing up Fulham in relation to Chelsea is meaningless.

Attackers:
For handballs leading directly to a goal they don’t look at positioning or intent. Touches hand and causes a goal -> automatically disallowed.


Defenders:
Intents, distance are judged. basically a 50/50 decision. Shooting the ball into a hand of the defender in a non scoring opportunity isn't a handball.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 5:46pm On Mar 05, 2021
Trevor012:

There are no inconsistencies. Like I told you before rules are different for attackers and defenders. Bringing up Fulham in relation to Chelsea is meaningless.

Attackers:
For handballs leading directly to a goal they don’t look at positioning or intent. Touches hand and causes a goal -> automatically disallowed.


Defenders:
Intents, distance are judged. basically a 50/50 decision. Shooting the ball into a hand of the defender in a non scoring opportunity isn't a handball.

At this point , continuing to engage you is a waste of time . Shoving “facts” out of ur asss trying to force it down the throat of someone more informed than you seems to be ur strong point .

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 5:47pm On Mar 05, 2021
BlueRayDick:


At this point , continuing to engage you is a waste of time . Shoving “facts” out of ur asss trying to force it down the throat of someone more informed than you seems to be ur strong point .
Stubborn people like you will never learn anything.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:14pm On Mar 05, 2021
OJURONGBE1:



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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 6:15pm On Mar 05, 2021
@Nateevs2,

Did you stay in that Silver trade? It has swung your way but I wonder if you were stop lossed before it swung when it went past 28.5
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 7:46pm On Mar 05, 2021
raumdeuter:

Before you knew of Tuchel, some of us have been following his career and we know he is a Pep wanabee, a student of Guardiola. You can see how he has his hands behind him like the obedient student he is learning from the Fraud




grin

So Fraudiola coached Dortmund and TT was apprentice under him right? You always bring inappropriate stuff when defending ish.

Fraudiola definitely was an apprentice to Nuno Espirito too. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:02pm On Mar 05, 2021
Thecassanova:

You’re showing YouTube highlights, I can bring you highlights of Bakayoko wonders.

Who was awarded Chelsea's player of the season 2019/2020?

If he was as poor as you want people to believe, he wouldn't even be nominated. Abeg rest.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timay(m): 8:03pm On Mar 05, 2021
Trevor012:

Mr Man shut up. I have no business if Kante was lucky or not yesterday. Drawing comparism with what happened at Fulham and Chelsea when it's an entirely different situation is what am correcting. Now bounce

I'm resisting the urge to go into rolling with dirty water with you like the pig you are.

It's only an intellectually bereft fellow that replies a simple conversation with insults just because they are too intellectually handicapped to sustain a conversation
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:12pm On Mar 05, 2021
BlueRayDick:


I don’t think anybody can give a valid reason why the Kante ball wasn’t penalized . Let’s just say it was a regrettable error on the part of the ref and VAR

I will just tell you that Kante's arm wasn't clearly raised above his shoulder. grin

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