Rugaria:
They are always positioning the sultan first... Trying hard to make it look like he is the premier traditional stool in Nigeria, which is nothing but a fat lie. Both the Oni and the Obi as traditional institutions have been there before the Hausas surrendered to these folks from Futaa jallon few years ago.. Trying to make it look like the overdressed sultan is the highest "traditional deity" in Nigeria is not just preposterous, it amounts to a great disservice to history..

Blame the reporter my brother. The media is part of the problem, you can see how the reporter simply put it "the sultan, oni and others, without according any respect to the obi who represents the interest of a major stakeholder. God bless Nigeria.

Coronabirus:
[s]You need to accept fact even in shame. There was strong traditional institutions with very good leadership structure in the North before all those u aforementioned know how to wear clothes. Over 700yrs back there was religion, education, schools, traditional attire & perfect leadership system in the north through which the current sultan inherited today that is why when whites came they handed over & favour North because the amazingly saw what they never expected to see in Africa in the North. Those years down the south many people walk naked untill when whites rescued then and bless them with religion, education & clothes which were all enjoyed many centuries before whites step their foot in Nigeria.
Sultan has more followers, have stronger institution than any other monarch in Nigeria, is among the most prominent persons who command high level of respect in the world. Queen Elizabeth has more respect for late Ado Bayero than any other monarch in the world, she knows better![/s]

The Sokoto Sultanate or Caliphate was founded by Uthman Dan Fodio in 1803.

His son Sultan Muhammad Bello succeeded him to the throne in 1817.

Their descendent Muhammadu Sa'ad Abubakar (present Sultan) ascended the throne in 2006.

In other words, the over-hyped Sokoto Sultanate began only 218 years ago.

Whereas, ordinary Benin kingdom has its first oba-ship dating to circa year 1200 — that is, about 821 years ago.

Do I need remark separately on the antiquity of the sacred kingdom of IFẸ̀ which is the grand-father of them all??

Modified:
Lest I forget your ludicrous and foolishly ignorant remark on clothes.

Listen, the Yorubas have been manufacturing textiles, glass, dichroic beads, metals, etc. centuries before your ‘greatest’ monarchy was established.

For example, my DP shows an ancient ‘bronze’ cast of a certain Ooni of Ife who is evidently lavished with beads, quality textile, etc.

This ‘bronze’ cast is dated by thermoluminescence test to about 721 years ago [see: D. Calvocoressi & Nicholas David, (1979), p. 18.]. And there are several much more older samples than this.

In other words, we’ve been using clothes centuries before your ‘greatest’ monarchy was first founded.

Cc: Rugaria

post=99804315:

Whatever will move our nation forward and bring lasting peace us all we are after @[/b].

God bless our darling Daddy President Muhammadu Buhari and his amiable Vice president Prof Yemi Osinbajo as they move our nation forward.

[b]God bless Nigeria.

I can pay you more!

TAO11:
That’s false.
Each of them is a co-chairman of the council.

someone must be chairman btw them but based on sitting sultan is the chairman

hakeemhakeem:
someone must be chairman btw them

The Nigerian Government clearly has a long way to go on education.

To educate you again though: No single one of the duo is the chairman.

I have provided you with evidence for this fact. You have instead provided me with ignorant stubbornness.

Moreover, the English word “Co-Chairman” (which you also used) should have informed you that there are two* individuals with the same authority in the council.

... but based on sitting sultan is the chairman

What sitting arrangement is that? The one attached below?

And what is the relevance of such sitting arrangement to the English word “Co-Chairman”?

———————
*”Two” in this context.

IamAsiri:

No. I think he needs to go for English classes first.

Lol....... Better

GeneralPula:


I’m sure he would be there if invited..

Ok sir. lwkmd...........

wwwihy:
Ranking of Obas

Sebi it was done on purpose to send all of you to think that's what it should be.... You think they don't know why they did that to skew history and silent your reasonings

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13249339_a211768x512_jpeg592cfed57b7b3410db6cfc4604ffded7

Cultural artifacts...
Here’s what your youth really thinks of them!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0WAsbUiqSo

lexy2014:


Who is a patriot & who is an enemy of f d statr?

Someone like you who keep asking infuriating questions are enemies of The State. All of us from Manna are Patriots

post=99804315:

Whatever will move our nation forward and bring lasting peace us all we are after @[/b].

God bless our darling Daddy President Muhammadu Buhari and his amiable Vice president Prof Yemi Osinbajo as they move our nation forward.

[b]God bless Nigeria.

our problem in this country is that we are never realistic in tackling our problems. We are just too selfish for development

SegFault:

Bros this doesn't really mean anything, must we always turn everything to a tribal problem. Tribalism is really worse than racism.

You can’t force different tribes to live together and expect them not to promote tribalism. It’s in our nature

ThatFairGuy1:

Someone like you who keep asking infuriating questions are enemies of The State. All of us from Manna are Patriots

How does asking u infuriating questions make me an enemy of d state and what makes all of u from manna patriots?

Waste f time, they will never tell him the truth. Just-collect-and-go kinda meeting.

wwwihy:
Ranking of Obas

Ranking by who?

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That are always positioning the sultan first... Trying hard to make it look like he is the premier traditional stool in Nigeria, which is nothing but a fat lie. Both the Oni and the Obi as traditional institutions have been there before the Hausas surrendered to these folks from Futaa jallon few years ago.. Trying to make it look like the overdressed sultan is the highest "traditional deity" in Nigeria is not just preposterous, it amounts to a great disservice to history..

Oba of Benin no day go gathering like this now. These gatherings barely even bring any meaningful results. It's just a picture gathering

Daddysidhan:
3nd class monarch are not invited.

The Oba of Benin is not an asslicker.

TAO11:
The Nigerian Government clearly has a long way to go on education.

To educate you again through: No single one of the duo is the chairman.

I have provided you with evidence for this fact. You have instead provided me with ignorant stubbornness.

Moreover, the English word “Co-Chairman” (which you also used) should have informed you that there are two* individuals with the same authority in the council.

What sitting arrangement is that? The one attached below?

And what is the relevance of such sitting arrangement to the English word “Co-Chairman”?

———————
*”Two” in this context.

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The Ooni of Ife, His Imperial Majesty, Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi has been announced as the Co-Chairman of the National Council of Traditional Rulers of Nigeria, NCTRN in which His Eminence, Sultan of Sokoto Alhaji (Dr) Muhammad Sa’ad Abubakar is the Chairman.

This was contained in an advertorial placed by the council in a national newspaper, Leadership and signed by the secretary of the council, His Royal Majesty, Oba Aderemi Adedapo, Alademore of Ido-Osun.

The advertorial stated, “The general public is hereby notified that the above council, which has approval of Corporate Affairs Commission for registration under part ‘C’ of the Companies and Allied Matters, Act 1990 has amended its composition consequent upon the demise of Ooni Okunade Sijuwade, Olubuse II, the council has amended its composition and replaced with Ooni Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi. He is also the Co-Chairman.)simple life scenario among two person one must be head

lexy2014:


How does asking u infuriating questions make me an enemy of d state and what makes all of u from manna patriots?

No be me and you this morning.
Dey there dey expect response. It'll come to a time I'll just view your mention and face front.

Mr questionnaire

ThatFairGuy1:

No be me and you this morning.
Dey there dey expect response. It'll come to a time I'll just view your mention and face front.

Mr questionnaire

Name calling doesn't answer questions. I thought u would be excited to explain how u are patriot just because u are from manna:

How does asking u infuriating questions make me an enemy of d state and what makes all of u from manna patriots?

SegFault:

I don't believe in such, if we had looked above tribe in Nigeria, we would have been far ahead but look at us now. You define your identity and who you are, you don't need any race, nation, tribe or group to define who you are, the sooner we realise this that is the moment a lot of problems would be solved.

what u said is true for Sane country where every tribe are equal both by laws and on reality but this country called Nigeria is Insane country being lead by insane leaders, country where one particular tribe believe it is more supreme to other tribes, take for instance, there is one major tribe in Nigeria that had already been over run by this tribe that want to dominate others, from their traditional stood, to their political class down to their land had been over run by this tribe. Me I will not want that to happen to my tribe in the name of one Nigeria

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggarrrr
Isoright.....
Oba of Benin can't go to such a cesspit

Oba of Benin is dead listen to Murphy faze on YouTube

TAO11:
The Sokoto Sultanate or Caliphate was founded by Uthman Dan Fodio in 1803.

His son Sultan Muhammad Bello succeeded him to the throne in 1817.

Their descendent Muhammadu Sa'ad Abubakar (present Sultan) ascended the throne in 2006.

In other words, the over-hyped Sokoto Sultanate began only 218 years ago.

Whereas, ordinary Benin kingdom has its first oba-ship dating to circa year 1200 — that is, about 821 years ago.

Do I need remark separately on the antiquity of the sacred kingdom of IFẸ̀ which is the grand-father of them all??

Modified:
Lest I forget your ludicrous and foolishly ignorant remark on clothes.

Listen, the Yorubas have been manufacturing textiles, glass, dichroic beads, metals, etc. centuries before your ‘greatest’ monarchy was established.

For example, my DP shows an ancient ‘bronze’ cast of a certain Oni of Ife who is evidently lavished with beads, quality textile, etc.

This ‘bronze’ cast is dated by thermoluminescence test to about 721 years ago. And there are several much older examples. [see: D. Calvocoressi & Nicholas David, (1979), p. 18.]

In other words, we’ve been using clothes centuries before your greatest monarchy was first founded.

she's back again with proven facts

MysteryShopper:
Obi of Onitsha representing the SOUTHEAST

Ooni of Ife representing the SOUTHWEST

Sultan of Sokoto representing the NORTH

These are the 3 most influential and powerful stools in Nigeria

And Obong of Calabar representing the SOUTH -SOUTH

BABA no dey waka anyhow rather na them go find am come. We only have 1kingdom in naija which is benin kingdom.

Daddysidhan:
3nd class monarch are not invited.

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The Ooni of Ife, His Imperial Majesty, Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi has been announced as the Co-Chairman of the National Council of Traditional Rulers of Nigeria, NCTRN in which His Eminence, Sultan of Sokoto Alhaji (Dr) Muhammad Sa’ad Abubakar is the Chairman.

This was contained in an advertorial placed by the council in a national newspaper, Leadership and signed by the secretary of the council, His Royal Majesty, Oba Aderemi Adedapo, Alademore of Ido-Osun.

The advertorial stated, “The general public is hereby notified that the above council, which has approval of Corporate Affairs Commission for registration under part ‘C’ of the Companies and Allied Matters, Act 1990 has amended its composition consequent upon the demise of Ooni Okunade Sijuwade, Olubuse II, the council has amended its composition and replaced with Ooni Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi. He is also the Co-Chairman.)simple life scenario among two person one must be head[/s]

You keep embarrassing yourself repeatedly, and you keep happily displaying your utter disregard for facts and common sense.

Muhammad Sa’ad was the (only) chairman of the council during the short while when there was no Ooni at Ife.

But as soon as Oba Adeyeye ascended the Ife throne (after the passing of the late Ooni — Oba Sijuwade); the council went back to status-quo of having two co-chairs.

A Gentle Reminder — A.K.A. ENG 101:
In the English language, there is no such thing as “a chairman and a co-chairman”.

The correct wording is either “two chairmen” or “two co-chairmen”.

These are the correct wordings if indeed this subject and your replies are in the English language.

A good example (in this context) is the word “co-parent”. There is no such thing as “a parent and a co-parent”.

You have either “two parents” or “two co-parents.” The correct wording is one of these.

You seem to be a good evidence of why this country requires an urgent education reform.

Catchment based education is indeed a terrible thing. [facepalms].

Cheers!

AreaFada2:

[s]Obi of Onitsha is a very very great monarch. He comports himself with much wisdom and dignity.

Oba of Benin does not go out that much to places that much. He can. After all see these leaders at will.
Oba of Benin considers the reason for such meetings carefully.

People show a picture of Oba at the back in a picture, well the Oba must have a scepter bearer next to him. In that picture the Oba went to tell visiting prince Charles that Britain should return Benin Art works, not just a for the Jamboree. It is on record he told prince Charles just that.

Today a museum is being built in Benin that is capable of accommodating such precious art works. Inadequate museum was one of the major excuses UK was giving for keeping the works in UK.

Different monarchs have different histories and traditions, they do their things in that manner I presume.

Alafin also wasn't present. Leader of a former great empire too. Live and let's live.[/s]

You think you really need the the false patching and exaggeration?? Lol.

There should be no shame in saying things as they actually are — that is, your Oba of Benin was simply uninvited or probably disinvited. Lol.

He would have been in Abuja in a matter of ‘seconds’ if the President and Commander-in-Chief had cared to invite him. There is no pointing tricking your own mind otherwise.

Even the Chairman of Oredo LGA (in Edo State) is imbued with more power than the Oba of Benin. Let alone the Governor of Edo State.

Let alone the President and Commander-in-Chief of the Nigerian Armed Forces. You all play a lot. Lol.

In summary, the leadership of the National Council of Traditional Rulers of Nigeria (NCTRN) was invited — the Ooni and the Sultan.

And they were obviously invited alongside the leading monarchs from the respective regions of Nigeria which are the determinants of the nation as a ‘going concern’.

Cc: Gbagura

——————
BTW, I learnt from a Benin source that the reigning Oba of Benin (Ewuare II) died recently and joined his Yoruba ancestors.

Can you confirm if this is true, or should we just wait for an official announcement from the Benin palace?

[Not the Chief Obasogie oo. I mean the Benin king himself].

Rugaria:
They are always positioning the sultan first... Trying hard to make it look like he is the premier traditional stool in Nigeria, which is nothing but a fat lie. Both the Oni and the Obi as traditional institutions have been there before the Hausas surrendered to these folks from Futaa jallon few years ago.. Trying to make it look like the overdressed sultan is the highest "traditional deity" in Nigeria is not just preposterous, it amounts to a great disservice to history..

whether Sultan or no Sultan - all these bunch are the reason Nigeria is backward today - They should all be dethroned and go get a regular job

They can not create peace in their communities, they are no longer feared and respected - so that means they can not even enforce the cultural

ways of taboos which makes it a sacrilege for certain things to happen - rape, killings and kidnappings everywhere. These bunch are of no economic

value, instead they are fleecing the system by collecting outrageous upkeep allowances at the detriment of the people. They are men of nuisance

value and they should all be dethroned with their palaces converted to IDP camps for the very citizens they betrayed whom they should serve!!!

ogbonti:



whether Sultan or no Sultan - all these bunch are the reason Nigeria is backward today - They should all be dethroned and go get a regular job

They can not create peace in their communities, they are no longer feared and respected - so that means they can not even enforce the cultural

ways of taboos which makes it a sacrilege for certain things to happen - rape, killings and kidnappings everywhere. These bunch are of no economic

value, instead they are fleecing the system by collecting outrageous upkeep allowances at the detriment of the people. They are men of nuisance

value and they should all be dethroned with their palaces converted to IDP camps for the very citizens they betrayed whom they should serve!!!

I can't put it better! Totally Totally in agreement with you.. They should go and apply for jobs. Fat parasites! All of them!

TAO11:
The Sokoto Sultanate or Caliphate was founded by Uthman Dan Fodio in 1803.

His son Sultan Muhammad Bello succeeded him to the throne in 1817.

Their descendent Muhammadu Sa'ad Abubakar (present Sultan) ascended the throne in 2006.

In other words, the over-hyped Sokoto Sultanate began only 218 years ago.

Whereas, ordinary Benin kingdom has its first oba-ship dating to circa year 1200 — that is, about 821 years ago.

Do I need remark separately on the antiquity of the sacred kingdom of IFẸ̀ which is the grand-father of them all??

Modified:
Lest I forget your ludicrous and foolishly ignorant remark on clothes.

Listen, the Yorubas have been manufacturing textiles, glass, dichroic beads, metals, etc. centuries before your ‘greatest’ monarchy was established.

For example, my DP shows an ancient ‘bronze’ cast of a certain Ooni of Ife who is evidently lavished with beads, quality textile, etc.

This ‘bronze’ cast is dated by thermoluminescence test to about 721 years ago [see: D. Calvocoressi & Nicholas David, (1979), p. 18.]. And there are several much more older samples than this.

In other words, we’ve been using clothes centuries before your ‘greatest’ monarchy was first founded.

Cc: Rugaria

I saw his post.. The whole thing was so full of haughty outbursts that I didn't know what to do with it..
Good you put him in his place. But will he be humble enough to learn?

TAO11:
The Sokoto Sultanate or Caliphate was founded by Uthman Dan Fodio in 1803.

His son Sultan Muhammad Bello succeeded him to the throne in 1817.

Their descendent Muhammadu Sa'ad Abubakar (present Sultan) ascended the throne in 2006.

In other words, the over-hyped Sokoto Sultanate began only 218 years ago.

Whereas, ordinary Benin kingdom has its first oba-ship dating to circa year 1200 — that is, about 821 years ago.

Do I need remark separately on the antiquity of the sacred kingdom of IFẸ̀ which is the grand-father of them all??

Modified:
Lest I forget your ludicrous and foolishly ignorant remark on clothes.

Listen, the Yorubas have been manufacturing textiles, glass, dichroic beads, metals, etc. centuries before your ‘greatest’ monarchy was established.

For example, my DP shows an ancient ‘bronze’ cast of a certain Ooni of Ife who is evidently lavished with beads, quality textile, etc.

This ‘bronze’ cast is dated by thermoluminescence test to about 721 years ago [see: D. Calvocoressi & Nicholas David, (1979), p. 18.]. And there are several much more older samples than this.

In other words, we’ve been using clothes centuries before your ‘greatest’ monarchy was first founded.

You're very ignorant of history. Danfodio neither established nor brought religion to the North. There was traditional rule and religion many centuries before Danfodio's father was born. Danfodio is commonly known as restorer; he fought against injustice of Northern traditional rulers and replace their cruel system with Islamic justice system that's the only thing he did.
Go and learn history because our system doesn't start from Sultan era, it's long predated centuries before those years.

meeting meeting and meetings no result