Donnie, Lighthouse50


I apologise for being too harsh with my words.

It’s not a crime to have a difference in view points and opinion on various subjects.

But what is wrong is going as far as insulting somebody and I was clearly guilty of this. Doesn’t really matter if I was even insulted in the first place.

Donnie, I apologise for this. I went beyond my boundaries in that regard.

Hopefully we can have a healthy discussion going forward.

Some books you can read.
Disclaimer: I don't agree 100% with every one of them. Eg. Many still believe in the fake land of Israel in the Negeb.

THE ANCIENT BLACK HEBREWS
https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Black-Hebrews-Abraham-Family/dp/1795647590

THE JEW A NEGRO

https://www.amazon.com/Jew-Negro-Ancestry-Impartial-Standpoint/dp/1986252574/ref=pd_aw_sim_2/139-0728947-9619307?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1986252574&pd_rd_r=ea8667de-b247-4d63-8f70-c1222e194729&pd_rd_w=Paehy&pd_rd_wg=jmRGh&pf_rd_p=2e0c8ea5-a5c4-41c4-870e-015e71f0c83d&pf_rd_r=DA625XDV3K1HSEYK0ZT0&psc=1&refRID=DA625XDV3K1HSEYK0ZT0

I have been pouring loads of free stuff here and people think they'll just do a Google search and either find or counter all I've shared. Oya na.

You can purchase these books. At least they aren't as expensive as some of the ancient sources (books, journals etc) they'll be siting. People dig real deep for precious stones.

Shabbat Shalom.

OkCornel:
Donnie, Lighthouse50


I apologise for being too harsh with my words.

It’s not a crime to have a difference in view points and opinion on various subjects.

But what is wrong is going as far as insulting somebody and I was clearly guilty of this. Doesn’t really matter if I was even insulted in the first place.

Donnie, I apologise for this. I went beyond my boundaries in that regard.

Hopefully we can have a healthy discussion going forward.

I've heard you. Actually, I saw no offence. Apologies too, if I said anything hurtful.

donnie:


I've heard you. Actually, I saw no offence. Apologies too, if I said anything hurtful.

Thanks bro for not taking offence.

No probs, no offence taken from my side.

Jah (or preferably Yah) bless you.

donnie:
Away with your lies. Who doesn't know it's apochrypha? Apochrypha means hidden. And who cares about their Canon? There's nothing Jew-ISH about the book. Did the original scrolls belong to them fake jews? Many of our ancient books were stolen and hidden by Rome.

The so-called Jew-ISH are not the people of the book but converts. That's why you have ISH attached to their name. They are impostors... the synagogue of Satan. (Revelation 2:9; 3:9)

"Apocrypha" is normally used to refer to religious texts that were left out of the Bible, though it can be used in a more general sense. In the text you showed discussing the Sefer haYashar, it said it was "one of the apocryphal books of Jasher." In this context, it is saying it wasn't the original Book of Jasher referred to in Joshua or Samuel, but was a much later creation. The very text you are showing says that it was printed in 1613.

As for the claim that there's nothing "Jew-ISH" (even by the definition of "Jew-ISH" you seem to suggest) about it, the fact it was written in Hebrew for Jews does indicate that yes, it was "Jew-ISH."

The Book of Yasher is referenced in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18.

Whatever it's referring to (it is variously interpreted as either referring to a lost work or being a term for other books in the Old Testament), it isn't referring to the book you were citing, which came long after Joshua and Samuel were written.

RandomGuy48:

"Apocrypha" is normally used to refer to religious texts that were left out of the Bible, though it can be used in a more general sense. In the text you showed discussing the Sefer haYashar, it said it was "one of the apocryphal books of Jasher." In this context, it is saying it wasn't the original Book of Jasher referred to in Joshua or Samuel, but was a much later creation. The very text you are showing says that it was printed in 1613.

As for the claim that there's nothing "Jew-ISH" (even by the definition of "Jew-ISH" you seem to suggest) about it, the fact it was written in Hebrew for Jews does indicate that yes, it was "Jew-ISH."

Whatever it's referring to (it is variously interpreted as either referring to a lost work or being a term for other books in the Old Testament), it isn't referring to the book you were citing, which came long after Joshua and Samuel were written.

You're mistaking the compilation of books (bible) for the scriptures (original scrolls). Scriptures have been stolen, some (like MESSIAH warned about) added and removed.

So in future, when they're forced to release those books/scrolls they stole and hid, we will gladly use them to kick more butts. Jasher couldn't be said to have just come along after Joshua. You can say the compilation or translation, yes. The date of compilation or translation isn't the same as the origin of the writings or the sources.

As per the JEW and JEW-ISH... just forget it, it probably is not for you. I suggest you quietly go and prayerfully study, seeking the truth. Then perhaps you'll understand.

OkCornel:
Donnie, Lighthouse50


I apologise for being too harsh with my words.

It’s not a crime to have a difference in view points and opinion on various subjects.

But what is wrong is going as far as insulting somebody and I was clearly guilty of this. Doesn’t really matter if I was even insulted in the first place.

Donnie, I apologise for this. I went beyond my boundaries in that regard.

Hopefully we can have a healthy discussion going forward.

Thanks for putting the kingdom of darkness to shame. God bless you sir

OkCornel:


A black woman with natural straight hair like an Indian or Caucasian?

I thought you were intelligent. (Damn! I’m giving too much credit associating you with that sef)

Now please remind us on how google and the internet you feed off on were invented by fake Jews who dwell in the synagogue of Satan

What is the meaning of the emboldened, can you shed more light?

Meanwhile, as you are apologising, I still want to hear your perspective on the emboldened.

donnie:


I've heard you. Actually, I saw no offence. Apologies too, if I said anything hurtful.

.Thanks for putting the kingdom of darkness to shame. God bless you sir

MrPresident1:


What is the meaning of the emboldened, can you shed more light?

Meanwhile, as you are apologising, I still want to hear your perspective on the emboldened.

To be honest, I don’t really have any view on this. I was only pointing out something Donnie mentioned earlier. Never mind.

Unless your question is who the Jews are in the synagogue of Satan in the context of the scriptures.

OkCornel:


To be honest, I don’t really have any view on this. I was only pointing out something Donnie mentioned earlier. Never mind.

Unless your question is who the Jews are in the synagogue of Satan in the context of the scriptures.

The Israelis who are living in Jerusalem now, are they the Israelites of the Bible?

donnie:


You're mistaking the compilation of books (bible) for the scriptures (original scrolls). Scriptures have been stolen, some (like MESSIAH warned about) added and removed from scripture.

So in future, when they're forced to release those books/scrolls they stole and hid, we will be glad to use them to kick more butts. Jasher couldn't be said to have just come along after Joshua. You can say the compilation or translation, yes. The compilation or tarnslation doesn't indicate the origin of the scripture.

As per the JEW and JEW-ISH... just forget it, it probably is not for you. I suggest you quietly go and prayerfully study, seeking the truth. Then perhaps you'll understand.

Donnie, you have always shoot yourself in the foot. Whether you delibrately see something i never said or should plain ignorant. Which ever case, they will not help you.
What i try to do and i think most of us do here is to try and interprete context and make sense of it. None of us was there to witness the events.

My own point is that whether the ancient jews where white or black is not important. What i am particular about it that there is no where in the old testament where it is written that the messiah is something other than a man that will be annointed with a special oil that was usually kept in the ark of the convenant..Messiahs are usually kings that deliver people from their enemies.

Jesus did not fulfil any of the criteria set out by the prophet. So he cant be the jewish messiah.

So from my own research i discovered that jesus was just a creation of the Greeco/Roman empire on the order of emperior constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire. So whether jesus is white or black, the whole concept is pagan and has got nothing to do with the jews or their God....


So stop playing the color card as if it changes anything..

sonmvayina:


Donnie, you have always shoot yourself in the foot. Whether you delibrately see something i never said or should plain ignorant. Which ever case, they will not help you.
What i try to do and i think most of us do here is to try and interprete context and make sense of it. None of us was there to witness the events.

My own point is that whether the ancient jews where white or black is not important. What i am particular about it that there is no where in the old testament where it is written that the messiah is something other than a man that will be annointed with a special oil that was usually kept in the ark of the convenant..Messiahs are usually kings that deliver people from their enemies.

Jesus did not fulfil any of the criteria set out by the prophet. So he cant be the jewish messiah.

So from my own research i discovered that jesus was just a creation of the Greeco/Roman empire on the order of emperior constantine who wanted a single religion for his empire. So whether jesus is white or black, the whole concept is pagan and has got nothing to do with the jews or their God....


So stop playing the color card as if it changes anything..

Jesus has a race, and his race is Hebrew, and the Hebrews especially the ones living in West Africa have grown a dark skin die o the intensity of the sun, and they have also become black due to the LORD's anger with them. But the LORD has redeemed his people and all those people that oppressed the apple of his eyes while he was away are going to be judged severely by the hands of these same people that they have oppressed

Luke 19:27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

MrPresident1:


The Israelis who are living in Jerusalem now, are they the Israelites of the Bible?

Yes. But if you believe otherwise, please I’d like to see your point of view.

MrPresident1:


Jesus has a race, and his race is Hebrew, and the Hebrews especially the ones living in West Africa have grown a dark skin die o the intensity of the sun, and they have also become black due to the LORD's anger with them. But the LORD has redeemed his people and all those people that oppressed the apple of his eyes while he was away are going to be judged severely by the hands of these same people that they have oppressed

Luke 19:27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

If God has redeemed his people, why is there still oppression and war?

Because according to God, the purpose of that one redeemer was to end all wars and oppression. Isaiah says" they wilk hammer their swords into ploughshares....and learn of war no more"...
That is what the messiah was coming to do...so if there is still wars and oppresaion...it means the messiah has not come....

OkCornel:


Yes. But if you believe otherwise, please I’d like to see your point of view.

Very good. Stop arguing with Donnie because you both don't believe in the same thing. The more he tries to present his position the more parallel you both become. Donnie does not believe or accept that the Israelis are the Israelites of the Bible, he knows that they are the synagogue of satan.

You believe on the Israelis and accept them as the Israelites of the Bible, can you see that you both are fundamentally opposed, and can never reconcile? Enough has been said about the Israelis and the fact that they are not the Israelites of the Bible and I am not prepared to start another unending rigmarole with you or anyone. Go and argue and share knowledge with the people who believe and accept the things you believe in.

Na person wen dey sleep dem dey wake up, nobody fit wake the man wey dey pretend say him dey sleep

sonmvayina:


If God has redeemed his people, why is there still oppression and war?

Because according to God, the purpose of that one redeemer was to end all wars and oppression. Isaiah says" they wilk hammer their swords into ploughshares....and learn of war no more"...
That is what the messiah was coming to do...so if there is still wars and oppresaion...it means the messiah has not come....

The emboldened question is for OKcornel and the people who believe that the Israelis are the Israelites of the Bible. They will respond to you in due course. They will tell you why Israel is redeemed and yet there is still wars and oppression in the world

But from me to you and other hopeless dogs, this is the Scripture that you should keep in mind

Luke 19:27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

MrPresident1:


Very good. Stop arguing with Donnie because you both don't believe in the same thing. The more he tries to present his position the more parallel you both become. Donnie does not believe or accept that the Israelis are the Israelites of the Bible, he knows that they are the synagogue of satan.

You believe on the Israelis and accept them as the Israelites of the Bible, can you see that you both are fundamentally opposed, and can never reconcile? Enough has been said about the Israelis and the fact that they are not the Israelites of the Bible and I am not prepared to start another unending rigmarole with you or anyone. Go and argue and share knowledge with the people who believe and accept the things you believe in.

Na person wen dey sleep dem dey wake up, nobody fit wake the man wey dey pretend say him dey sleep

Yeah, that’s why I said it’s not a crime to have different views on various subjects, but insulting someone is wrong and I was clearly guilty of that.

However there are some other things I and Donnie do not agree on as well.

But I hear you (MrPresident1) loud and clear.

We don’t have to argue or even reconcile. But we can always discuss to understand points for and against our positions.

donnie:


Flesh and blood did not reveal that to you. Your awakeing has just begun because unlike the many fools here who think they can argue in defence of a fake white Jesus with basic knowledge of Google search, you notice the cover-ups.

If you're a bit more specific about what you're looking for, I may help with some sources. There are books and historical sources that tell the truth about the people of the book being black, but they are very expensive. I believe it's on purpose to keep the truth hidden.

Please kindly share some of these sources and PDF file if u can sir. Thanks

I also stongly believe those packed in israel are fake based on my reearch but will always contribute my few points and explain them critically.

Lighthouse50:
I also stongly believe those packed in israel are fake based on my reearch but will always contribute my few points and explain them critically.

Awaiting eagerly

Not to argue, but understand your point of view and discuss.

MrPresident1:


Very good. Stop arguing with Donnie because you both don't believe in the same thing. The more he tries to present his position the more parallel you both become. Donnie does not believe or accept that the Israelis are the Israelites of the Bible, he knows that they are the synagogue of satan.

You believe on the Israelis and accept them as the Israelites of the Bible, can you see that you both are fundamentally opposed, and can never reconcile? Enough has been said about the Israelis and the fact that they are not the Israelites of the Bible and I am not prepared to start another unending rigmarole with you or anyone. Go and argue and share knowledge with the people who believe and accept the things you believe in.

Na person wen dey sleep dem dey wake up, nobody fit wake the man wey dey pretend say him dey sleep

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2 Kings 17:24-41 After the fall of the northern kingdom of Israel in 722BC, people from other parts of the Assyrian empire - from Babylon, Cuthah, Avva, Sepharvaim and Hamath - are brought to settle in Samaria to REPLACE the Israelites Following the fall of Samaria and the northern kingdom of Israel in 722BC, all Israelites who were unable to flee elsewhere were deported to Assyria. Settlers from other parts of the Assyrian Empire were brought in to replace them by King Sargon II Early on in the resettlement of Samaria, lions attacked and killed some of the new settlers, so ONE of the exiled priests of Israel was sent back to Bethel to inform the settlers how to ‘pacify’ the god of their new land. He taught the new residents of Samaria how to worship the LORD, the God of Israel, alongside their own gods. In later generations (and in Jesus’s day), the Samaritans were hated by the Jews because of their mixed Jewish and Assyrian ancestry. Due to their mixture of Jewish and pagan religious practices, they were not considered to be Jews (see 2 Kings 17:33-34 & John 4:4-26). As a result, the Samaritans built a ‘rival’ temple on Mt Gerizim - which they believed to be the site of the altar where Abraham prepared to offer his son Isaac as a sacrifice (see Genesis 22:1-14) - but this was destroyed in 128 BC. Even today, local Samaritans still offer a lamb as a ritual sacrifice on the slopes of Mt Gerizim at Passover time. WHERE ARE THE CAPTURED ISRAELITES WHO WERE TAKEN AWAY

Lovelyperson:


Please kindly share some of these sources and PDF file if u can sir. Thanks

You can start with this...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d9xqMUs6iVZIMB3c4Jg1UbdT_gQORsf3/view

https://benayah4israel.org/references-home

Again, I do not agree 100% with them on everything. Eg. I don't believe in the fake land in the Negeb/levant.

Shabbat shalom.

Lighthouse50:
2 Kings 17:24-41 After the fall of
the northern kingdom of Israel in
722BC, people from other parts of
the Assyrian empire - from
Babylon, Cuthah, Avva,
Sepharvaim and Hamath - are
brought to settle in Samaria to
REPLACE the Israelites
Following the fall of Samaria and
the northern kingdom of Israel in
722BC, all Israelites who were
unable to flee elsewhere were
deported to Assyria. Settlers from
other parts of the Assyrian Empire
were brought in to replace them by
King Sargon II
Early on in the resettlement of
Samaria, lions attacked and killed
some of the new settlers, so ONE of
the exiled priests of Israel was sent
back to Bethel to inform the
settlers how to ‘pacify’ the god of
their new land. He taught the new
residents of Samaria how to
worship the LORD, the God of Israel,
alongside their own gods. In later
generations (and in Jesus’s day), the
Samaritans were hated by the
Jews because of their mixed Jewish
and Assyrian ancestry. Due to their
mixture of Jewish and pagan
religious practices, they were not
considered to be Jews (see 2 Kings
17:33-34 & John 4:4-26).
As a result, the Samaritans built a
‘rival’ temple on Mt Gerizim - which
they believed to be the site of the
altar where Abraham prepared to
offer his son Isaac as a sacrifice (see
Genesis 22:1-14) - but this was
destroyed in 128 BC. Even today,
local Samaritans still offer a lamb as
a ritual sacrifice on the slopes of Mt
Gerizim at Passover time.
WHERE ARE THE CAPTURED
ISRAELITES WHO WERE TAKEN
AWAY

I’ll digest this and reply.

I believe this relates to the lost 10 tribes of Israel.

Meanwhile, please can you share your reasons why you think the present occupants of the land of Israel are impostors.

OkCornel:


I’ll digest this and reply.

I believe this relates to the lost 10 tribes of Israel.

Meanwhile, please can you share your reasons why you think the present occupants of the land of Israel are impostors.

Those sets of people whom the assyrians deposited in the northern part of Israel were the ones who returned to claim the land of Israel. I will explain why i wrote that, i may be wrong and would be glad to learn more.

Lighthouse50:

Those sets of people whom the assyrians deposited in the northern part of Israel were the ones who returned to claim the land of Israel. I will explain why i wrote that, i may be wrong and would be glad to learn more.

No worries, I’m keen to unlearn and relearn too. No one is 100% right except God.

We know in parts, let’s see how it goes as we discuss further.

OkCornel:


I’ll digest this and reply.

I believe this relates to the lost 10 tribes of Israel.

Meanwhile, please can you share your reasons why you think the present occupants of the land of Israel are impostors.

I don’t think they are necessarily imposters but they had been in Europe so long that their phenotypes probably changed through intercourse with Europeans by the time racism/antisemitism of their fellow Europeans made them flee for Palestine.
e.g. if Megan Markle had married/procreated with someone similar to herself, the kid would pass for “white” and if the family tree continues like that, one would never guess Megan Markle’s mother is “black”.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

Martian:


I don’t think they are necessarily imposters but they had been in Europe so long that their phenotypes probably changed through intercourse with white people by the time racism/antisemitism if their fellow Europeans made them flee for Palestine.
e.g. if Megan Markle had married/procreated with someone similar to herself, the kid would pass for “white” and if the family tree continues like that, one would never guess Megan Markle’s mother is “black”.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

Thanks. My position is pretty close to this.

It would be hard to establish a pure Hebrew bloodline today due interracial marriages. Even right from Bible days for example the Hebrews married from the lineage of Ham frequently.

1. Joseph’s wife was an Egyptian. Which makes Ephraim and Mannaseh half Egyptians.

2. Moses married Zipporah a Midianite (abi Cushite)

And other examples here and there.

Just to buttress your point, the Hebrews were scattered under the four corners of heaven (I’ll search for the scriptures to validate this), consequently mixing up with the inhabitants of those lands by interracial marriages.