letu:
When will you learn from the truth behind these things, okay let me play along with you with the pictures below.

And your point is?

Do us a favor and bring images of the native tribes in the Amazon jungles. These tribes for centuries have been cut off from the rest of the world, so no chance for interracial mixing. They have much genetic similarities with their North American natives.

I dare you, bring up their images let’s see if these natives are blacks.

donnie:


You're just putting out info anyone can easily get from CNN or a simple Google search...it's all lies! The Beta ISRAEL are fake and so is the so-called operation Moses. It's all meant to deceive, distract and mislead the world. Has MESSIAH returned? Is there world peace today? Is that region not a war zone? Is MESSIAH not the one to bring his people to their land from THE FOUR CORNERS of the earth according to scripture? Not Germany Russia and Ethiopia. That can only be the children of Jacob (the Bantus/Negroes) who were dispersed to the four corners through various captivites and slavery.

Isaiah 11:12
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

EDOM of scripture today is ROME which also peopled Italy, Spain Portugal, France Britain, U.S. etc.
Bible scholars know this but hide it because EDOM owns and controls the bible schools and seminaries. They lie about EDOM to divert attention from their impending doom. They are the Kingdom our black MESSIAH is coming to destroy and overthrow. The judgement of ESAU/EDOM shall come in the day of the Lord (the day of YAHUAH), the day of vengeance and that is at the end of this age.

Obadiah 1:8,10,15
[8]Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?
[10]For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
[15]For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.


EDOM shall not escape judgement.

Isn’t the event of 1948 in the Middle East a step towards the fulfilment of Isaiah 11 v 12?

sonmvayina:


If God has redeemed his people, why is there still oppression and war?

Because according to God, the purpose of that one redeemer was to end all wars and oppression. Isaiah says" they wilk hammer their swords into ploughshares....and learn of war no more"...
That is what the messiah was coming to do...so if there is still wars and oppresaion...it means the messiah has not come....

The emboldened question is for OKcornel and the people who believe that the Israelis are the Israelites of the Bible. They will respond to you in due course. They will tell you why Israel is redeemed and yet there is still wars and oppression in the world

But from me to you and other hopeless dogs, this is the Scripture that you should keep in mind

Luke 19:27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

OKcornel, this is still waiting for your response

OkCornel:


Isn’t the event of 1948 in the Middle East a step towards the fulfilment of Isaiah 11 v 12?

Is Isaiah 11 v 10 related with Isaiah 11 v 12? Which comes before which?

Isaiah 11:10
And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Isaiah 11:12
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Whenever you are making reference to Scriptures, quote it

MrPresident1:


Is Isaiah 11 v 10 related with Isaiah 11 v 12? Which comes before which?

Isaiah 11:10
And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Isaiah 11:12
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Whenever you are making reference to Scriptures, quote it

And what was the purpose of Jesus’ first coming in context of the above scriptures?

MrPresident1:




OKcornel, this is still waiting for your response

Sorry bro, is Luke 19 v 27 a prophecy or a parable? Parable of the talents to be precise.

What does this have to do with the end times sir?

Luke 19 v 12-27;

11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.

13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.

15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.

16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.

17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.

18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.

19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.

20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:

21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.

22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:

23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?

24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.

25 (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)

26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.

27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

OkCornel:


And what was the purpose of Jesus’ first coming in context of the above scriptures?

Are the Jewish people, the people who are now living in Jerusalem the ensign?

Isaiah 11:10-12 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

OkCornel:


Sorry bro, is Luke 19 v 27 a prophecy or a parable? Parable of the talents to be precise.

What does this have to do with the end times sir?

Luke 19 v 12-27;

11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.

13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.

15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.

16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.

17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.

18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.

19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.

20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:

21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.

22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:

23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?

24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.

25 (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)

26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.

27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Please answer questions straight and direct. It is hypocrisy to accuse Donnie of an offence your are doubly guilty of. The LORD hates this. All parables are prophecies, by the way

Now answer the question below with a straight and direct answer

sonmvayina:


If God has redeemed his people, why is there still oppression and war?

Because according to God, the purpose of that one redeemer was to end all wars and oppression. Isaiah says" they wilk hammer their swords into ploughshares....and learn of war no more"...
That is what the messiah was coming to do...so if there is still wars and oppresaion...it means the messiah has not come....

The emboldened question is for OKcornel and the people who believe that the Israelis are the Israelites of the Bible. They will respond to you in due course. They will tell you why Israel is redeemed and yet there is still wars and oppression in the world

But from me to you and other hopeless dogs, this is the Scripture that you should keep in mind

Luke 19:27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

OKcornel, this is still waiting for your response

OkCornel:


Isn’t the event of 1948 in the Middle East a step towards the fulfilment of Isaiah 11 v 12?

What useless step? A step that led to more lies and deception? Uganda was even their first choice before they settled for that location. Can't you see it's a fraud? The whole world knows... Except white Jesus worshippers of course.

OkCornel:


MrPresident1 answered this. It’s called “the way of truth” as Apostle Peter described it in 2 Peter 2 v 2.

I just wanted to hear what Donnie’s description is as well.

Is that the name of a religion? Or is that the name of a mega church?

donnie:


Is that the name of a religion? Or is that the name of a mega church?

Nah, it’s a description of the beliefs and lifestyle of the early apostles and the early church.

MrPresident1:


Please answer questions straight and direct. It is hypocrisy to accuse Donnie of an offence your are doubly guilty of. The LORD hates this. All parables are prophecies, by the way

Now answer the question below with a straight and direct answer





OKcornel, this is still waiting for your response

MrPresident1, please explain to us then what Luke 19 v 27 is in context of the parables of the talent Jesus spoke of. Let’s be clear you aren’t picking one verse to quote out of context.

I’m here, explain to all of us.

MrPresident1:


Are the Jewish people, the people who are now living in Jerusalem the ensign?

Isaiah 11:10-12 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

And the people who congregated in the land of Israel in 1948 came from Europe alone abi?

Let’s all go through historical evidences and study the settlement patterns of today’s Jews in Israel. Unless you want to clearly tell us the Jews in Israel today are merely Europeans, and not the diaspora from the nations you mentioned in Isaiah.

Are you game? Let’s examine all the historical evidences of settlement of the Jewish diaspora across various nations into the land of Israel from 1948 till date.

donnie:


What useless step? A step that led to more lies and deception? Uganda was even their first choice before they settled for that location. Can't you see it's a fraud? The whole world knows... Except white Jesus worshippers of course.

I hope you’re clear on my position Jesus or better still Yeshua was never a white man.

Kindly bring up the Uganda matter let’s deal with it in context.

OkCornel:


The Caucasians are not Edomites.

Malachi 1 v 3-5;
3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the Lord of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the Lord hath indignation for ever.

5 And your eyes shall see, and ye shall say, The Lord will be magnified from the border of Israel.

[s]The country where Edom used to exist is now occupied by Jordanians. These guys are not Edomites as the heritage of Edom is forever destroyed.[/s]

You quote scriptures and give false interpretations...

Verse 3 above has been fulfilled. They were made low and their kingdoms waste.

Verse 4 shows they returned and built great Kingdoms. But YAH has promised to throw them down...and that hasn't been fulfilled. EDOM more than a land... it is first a people YAH hates.

Verse 5 says your eyes shall see it.... Meaning it shall happen in future.

Obadiah 1:3-4
[3]The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
[4]Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

-It's Edom whose pride has deceived him to think he is YAH.
-He lives in skyscrapers and in underground bunkers thinking he is secured.
-They have exalted themselves like the eagle and set their nest among the stars. When the first man they sent to the moon landed, they said, "The eagle has landed". The elite know exactly who they are.
-That's why most Western powers and their former colonies have the eagle symbol. From Rome to U.S. to Russia etc.

OkCornel:


And the people who congregated in the land of Israel in 1948 came from Europe alone abi?

Let’s all go through historical evidences and study the settlement patterns of today’s Jews in Israel. Unless you want to clearly tell us the Jews in Israel today are merely Europeans, and not the diaspora from the nations you mentioned in Isaiah.

Are you game? Let’s examine all the historical evidences of settlement of the Jewish diaspora across various nations into the land of Israel from 1948 till date.

First go read the book THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE by Arthur Koestler, one of your fake JewISH friends. He told the truth about their origin and all. Free PDF is even available if you search well.

donnie:


You quote scriptures and give false interpretations...

Verse 3 above has been fulfilled. They were made low and their kingdoms waste.

Verse 4 shows they returned and built great Kingdoms. But YAH has promised to throw them down...and that hasn't been fulfilled. EDOM more than a land... it is first a people YAH hates.

Verse 5 says your eyes shall see it.... Meaning it shall happen in future.

Obadiah 1:3-4
[3]The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
[4]Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

-It's Edom whose pride has deceived him to think he is YAH.
-He lives in skyscrapers and in underground bunkers thinking he is secured.
-They have exalted themselves like the eagle and set their nest among the stars. When the first man they sent to the moon landed, they said, "The eagle has landed". The elite know exactly who they are.
-That's why most Western powers and their former colonies have the eagle symbol. From Rome to U.S. to Russia etc.

So technically Herod an Edomite (a remnant of that race) was also a Roman?

Bros, the Edomites are destroyed and have no heritage on this earth. The prophecies of Obadiah on the destruction of Edom is long fulfilled, and we can discuss this in historical context.

donnie:


First go read the book THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE by Arthur Koestler, one of your fake JewISH friends. He told the truth about their origin and all. Free PDF is even available if you search well.

While I’m at that, please can you debunk the fact that all Jews settled in the land of Israel today are diaspora Jews from several nations and not Europe alone?

Donnie, read Antiquity of the Jews by Josephus Flavius, a first century historian. You’ll see who the ancestors of the Romans.

Juxtapose that against the settlement pattern of Noah’s sons across the earth in the book of Genesis.

Edom ain’t Rome. Don’t get things mixed up.

OkCornel:


Can you kindly show us where exactly in this link you put up describing Subsaharan Africa as a racist language rather than a geographical description?

It’s a slur. Are cardinal directions not sufficient maps anymore?

Chad and Algeria both have the Sahara in their territories so what makes the former a “sub-Saharan” African country and the latter a “North” African country?

The link was to show you the history of racist thought and how they couch some of their ideas in an Academic framework so you can see how this seemingly innocuous idea of “sub saharan” is nefarious.
The term is the culmination of European ignorance and their claim that Africans were not responsible for the Egyptian Civilization. Hence, the initial division and what they referred to as the “dark” continent.

Some claim it’s because the Sahara “separates” the continent into two as if there were no trade routes, other travel routes, and migration
Can you come up with another example where a continent is divided based on one geographic feature resulting in the “sub” prefix being used to refer to one part of it?

Martian:


It’s a slur. Are cardinal directions not sufficient maps anymore?

Chad and Algeria both have the Sahara in their territories so what makes the former a “sub-Saharan” African country and the latter a “North” African country?

The link was to show you the history of racist thought and they couch some of their ideas in Academic framework so you can see how this seemingly innocuous idea is nefarious.
The term is the culmination of European ignorance and their claim that Africans were not responsible for the Egyptian Civilization.

Some claim it’s because the Sahara “separates” the continent into two as if there were no trade routes, other travel routes, and migration
Can you come up with another example where a continent is divided based on one geographic feature resulting in the “sub” prefix being used to refer to one part of it?

What’s a shorter way to describe a region below the Sahara? Which prefix is more accurate and appropriate to use?

OkCornel:


What’s a shorter way to describe a region below the Sahara? Which prefix is more accurate and appropriate to use?

What’s so special about the Sahara that the entire region below it needs to have prefix for description?

If I need to refer to a geographic region with Sahara as the reference point, I would employ cardinal directions like it’s done everywhere else. South of the Sahara, East of the Sahara etc. better yet I wouldn’t use the Sahara.

Is Namibia with its own prominent desert also “sub” Saharan?

How do you describe a region below the Himalayas?

How do you describe the region below Siberia?

How do you describe the region below the Gobi desert?

Chad and Algeria both have the Sahara in their territories so what makes the former a “sub-Saharan” African country and the latter a “North” African country?

OkCornel:


So technically Herod an Edomite (a remnant of that race) was also a Roman?

[s]Bros, the Edomites are destroyed and have no heritage on this earth. The prophecies of Obadiah on the destruction of Edom is long fulfilled, and we can discuss this in historical context.[/s]

The Romans had occupied the land which by the way is in Southern Africa and not the fake land in the levant. He was appointed by the Romans to defend their interest. There were various ethnicities in the land, just like the U.S. or South Africa of today with Edomites and Isrealites (blacks) there.

EDOM had become one kingdom with Rome (Chittim).

Jasher 90:8
And the children of Chittim ruled over Edom, and Edom became under the hand of the children of Chittim and became one kingdom from that day

Jasher 10:16
And the children of chittim are the romans who dwell in the valley of Canopia by the river Tibreu.

OkCornel:
Donnie, read Antiquity of the Jews by Josephus Flavius, a first century historian. You’ll see who the ancestors of the Romans.

Juxtapose that against the settlement pattern of Noah’s sons across the earth in the book of Genesis.

Edom ain’t Rome. Don’t get things mixed up.

Have you read the books I have recommended for you here?

Josephus is a scam. Even his writings have been doctored over the years. I will leave physical evidence and scriptures and follow Josephus who was appointed by the same Romans who destroyed our temple and chased our people (Bantus) out of their land? SMH.

You don't expect me to go back and forth on this with you, do you? I only put out truth here for the records and they agree with the scriptures and credible historians and scholars. Those with the Spirit of Truth will recognize truth.

donnie:


The Romans had occupied the land which by the way is in Southern Africa and not the fake land in the levant. He was appointed by the Romans to defend their interest. There were various ethnicities in the land, just like the U.S. or South Africa of today with Edomites and Isrealites (blacks) there.

EDOM had become one kingdom with Rome (Chittim).

Jasher 90:8
And the children of Chittim ruled over Edom, and Edom became under the hand of the children of Chittim and became one kingdom from that day

Jasher 10:16
And the children of chittim are the romans who dwell in the valley of Canopia by the river Tibreu.

Chittim is present day Cyprus. History clearly points to that.

OkCornel:


While I’m at that, please can you debunk the fact that all Jews settled in the land of Israel today are diaspora Jews from several nations and not Europe alone?

They are Europeans from Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Poland etc. Mind you there's a difference between nation and countries. They are from one nation: EDOM.

Those of other nations taken there eg. Kush (the Ethiopians) is all for political reasons and to deceive the world and because they couldn't totally deny the fact that the whole bible is black history.

They fear the real Isrealites, the people of the book. When we awake, repent as ISOLELE/ISRAEL and open our mouths to proclaim judgement, it happens.

The lemba who have 100% Bantu blood and DNA were accepted by these fakes because they couldn't deny the cultural herritage and of course they have diamonds in their land.

The Igbos who foolishly saught recognition from these devils were rejected.
They are afraid of the Igbos and also the Igbos don't have diamonds like the lemba of Zimbabwe.

OkCornel:


Chittim is present day Cyprus. History clearly points to that.

Mtcheew... We're referring to a people, not a land after thousands of years. Chittim was a man with descendants. We've been taught to mistake the people for the land and vise versa.

donnie:


Have you read the books I have recommended for you here?

Josephus is a scam. Even his writings have been doctored over the years. I will leave physical evidence and scriptures and follow Josephus who was appointed by the same Romans who destroyed our temple and chased our people (Bantus) out of their land? SMH.

You don't expect me to go back and forth on this with you, do you? I only put out truth here for the records and they agree with the scriptures and credible historians and scholars. Those with the Spirit of Truth will recognize truth.

Oga, how is Josephus a first century historian, and a zealot that fought against the Romans (born a Hebrew - Yosef Ben Matityahu) a scam?

Just how?

donnie:


Mtcheew... We're referring to a people, not a land after thousands of years. Chittim was a man with descendants. We've been taught to mistake the people for the land and vise versa.

Geographically, where is Chittim today? And how were these people Romans?

donnie:


They are Europeans from Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Poland etc. Mind you there's a difference between nation and countries. They are from one nation: EDOM.

Those of other nations taken there eg. Kush (the Ethiopians) is all for political reasons and to deceive the world and because they couldn't totally deny the fact that the whole bible is black history.

They fear the real Isrealites, the people of the book. When we awake, repent as ISOLELE/ISRAEL and open our mouths to proclaim judgement, it happens.

The lemba who have 100% Bantu blood and DNA were accepted by these fakes because they couldn't deny the cultural herritage and of course they have diamonds in their land.

The Igbos who foolishly saught recognition from these devils were rejected.
They are afraid of the Igbos and also the Igbos don't have diamonds like the lemba of Zimbabwe.

Calling Bantus or blacks or whatever the Israelites is an insult to Bantus. Only if you see the key role they played in moulding the Israelite nation.

Ancient Egypt (Kemet) in which the Hebrews took refuge and eventually were turned slaves. Moses a prince of Egypt was privy to the inner workings of Kemet Spirituality and mysteries.

And his father in law and mentor, Jethro from Midian. These factors played a key role in moulding the Hebrew nation.

But claiming Bantu a separate and I dare say an older superior race to the Hebrews as the real Hebrews is a demotion and an insult.

Let’s not place the cart before the horse.

I think the real problem here is people haven’t taken time to understand the spirituality of the black nations spanning from Southern Egypt (the northern part is still contestable) all the way to the Kongo down to the Zulu peoples in Africa even way before the sons of Jacob set foot on the land of Ham (Africa)

We’ve discarded all that and want to take up the Hebrew identity. A nation the Hamites played a critical role in forming.

donnie:


They are Europeans from Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Poland etc. Mind you there's a difference between nation and countries. They are from one nation: EDOM.

Those of other nations taken there eg. Kush (the Ethiopians) is all for political reasons and to deceive the world and because they couldn't totally deny the fact that the whole bible is black history.

They fear the real Isrealites, the people of the book. When we awake, repent as ISOLELE/ISRAEL and open our mouths to proclaim judgement, it happens.

The lemba who have 100% Bantu blood and DNA were accepted by these fakes because they couldn't deny the cultural herritage and of course they have diamonds in their land.

The Igbos who foolishly saught recognition from these devils were rejected.
They are afraid of the Igbos and also the Igbos don't have diamonds like the lemba of Zimbabwe.

Kai, na wa o. You’ve admitted there are Hebrew diaspora of other nations settled in present day Israel, but all of them na scam? Even with all the DNA tests tracing their haplogroups to the Levant region?

OkCornel:


Kai, na wa o. You’ve admitted there are Hebrew diaspora of other nations settled in present day Israel, but all of them na scam? Even with all the DNA tests tracing their haplogroups to the Levant region?

The Kushites taken there are not Hebrews but Hammites. Many share same DNA with the fake Jews which is as expected due to the invasions into Ethiopia from turkey where many of the fake Jews originate from.

I'm not aware the lembas were taken there. Why are you so desperate?