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Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Kettlecorn: 9:40pm On Mar 15, 2021 |
I'm a bit confused after reading the synopsis of work done vs the complaints the OP has. Looks like his principal complaints are twofold. First, the blue smoke from exhaust on startup and second, the Christmas Lights on the dashboard. Below is what he said was done on the car. I do not see any of these addressing any of those 2 issues, unless there is more detail under #1. Everything that has been done is straight R&R, nothing really technically challenging. The R&R stuff, although being the easiest to resolve should have been tackled last after figuring out the real major stuff. 1) Engine tune-up: a combination of services 2) Remove and replace steering rack, pinion assembly and tie rod 3) Remove and replace control arms (both) 4) Remove and replace rear axle 5) Remove and replace front CV axle 6) Remove and replace oil sump 7) Materials required In my mind, the real question here is an issue of how the repairs were prioritized. I would have started with the #1 priority thing to resolve which is the blue smoke from the engine. They should have figured out what was causing this and if it can be cost effectively repaired. If the remedy will cost more than the car is worth and or if the owner is unwilling to spend that amount, the other issues would be a moot point. The logical thing to do would then be to cut your losses, dump the car with full disclosure and move on. Too late for that now. If the blue smoke remedy ends up being a new engine or internal engine work, the OP will end up spending much more than that car is worth at this point. Having said that, I also think opening up a thread on the issue is a bit premature being that OP was asked to bring the car back and told that a warranty is in effect. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by radautoworks: 11:12pm On Mar 15, 2021 |
Kettlecorn:that's what we did. Makes no sense to address suspension if engine is shot. Did you watch the video? |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Kettlecorn: 1:01am On Mar 16, 2021 |
radautoworks: Yes, I did watch the video and that's why I was bit further confused. I may be mistaken but I didn't really hear anything that addressed issues directly related to blue smoke on startup or the potential magnitude of that issue. He did talk about lots of codes maybe related, I don't know, including TPMS which I thought ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Kelvin30286063(m): 4:42am On Mar 16, 2021 |
Crocif:You were billed 250k without replacing engine when the complete engine that comes with almost all the parts you bought separately sells for about 350k or so. How stupid is that to you bro? Maybe you have to much money to throw around I don't know. I drive an acura TL and that so called kazeem repairs my car day in day out. I have a personal scanner. I just scan my car, research on the error I get on Google and YouTube and tell my kazeem exactly what to do. You bought spark plugs for 28k! Bro, I buy original spark plugs for 2k each and they fire fine. Now you will eventually end up buying that same engine you spent so much trying to fix. Personally I think you should have waited for GAZZUZZ. He's not cheap too but he doesn't charge 250k and let you leave with a smoking engine and a bad steering rack! 17 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Kewtt: 6:38am On Mar 16, 2021 |
Kelvin30286063:Arrogant mechanic is one hell of a street smart worker.... He dodged the bullet....Baba no wan cast this 2021... |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Crocif: 7:51am On Mar 16, 2021 |
Kelvin30286063: I think I understand how it may look stupid but if I was a betting man I can wager that you won't get a first-grade 2007/2008 Acura MDX engine for about N350k. I am not an expert but I am thinking it may be about $1,000 (@N480/$) if not more. Even with that, I can still understand why you may think it's stupid, but the thing here is that I believe professionals should be trusted (my opinion) in the same way I trust my doctor. If I can trust my life to a mere mortal simply because of the expert knowledge he/she possesses then I don't see why I shouldn't have trusted radautoworks' team of experts with an ordinary vehicle (just comparing it with human life). Their professional opinion was that the engine is fine and needs a simple tune-up. If this is the case, buying an engine at that point can be compared to someone using a sledgehammer to kill an ant. Anyways, as I mentioned before: water under the bridge. What I need now are workable solutions. I would prefer to learn from the past while looking forward. 13 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Crocif: 7:56am On Mar 16, 2021 |
radautoworks: Okay. I will see her tomorrow. Thank you. |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Kelvin30286063(m): 9:25am On Mar 16, 2021 |
Crocif:Quite true, but moving forward, I'll advice you to find a Kazeem with a little education and stick to him. No all kazeems are bad. I have one that calls himself an engineer just because he has a sec school certificate. Lol He knows a little but I try to help him by doing a lot of research on what the problem with the car is before asking him to work on it. We argue sometimes but he gets the job done and he knows I don't take nonsense so he ask me before taking any decision. Find someone like that. In this country, we should all learn to chose our poison and hope it doesn't kill us. And pls get a scanner. You should get a good one for as low as 80k, it makes no sense that you have zero knowledge of what is wrong with your car. You're your car's personal doctor first before anyone else 11 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by radautoworks: 12:56pm On Mar 16, 2021 |
Kelvin30286063: So let me understand what you are saying. A 350k engine would have resolved all the leaks, computer codes and suspension problems? There would also have been no labor charge? We should have also changed the engine when he didn't need a new one since Nigerians think an engine is a consumable part of a car? I guess that's what your professional kazeem would have recommended? Okay. I missed the part where you were there for both the purchase and the diagnosis. Op told you what he spent on the car purchase. I'm assuming he was aware it was that price for a reason. And that reason had not been resolved before he came to us. I guess none of the other kazeems had Google, youtube, a scanner and you to tell them how to fix the problem. And yet he had no warranty at any of the other places. I am open to you using Google, youtube and your scanner to help us solve the problem. In fact, I will pay you to come here and tell our techs what to do to fix the problem like you do with your engineer. I will only pay if the problem is solved in one visit with no follow up. Even doctors require follow up with major illnesses which this car has but by all means please come and tell us how to fix it. Maybe show your professional kazeem the video as well as the computer readout and ask him what would have fixed the car first? I don't mind you doing that then coming to show us the solution. And then if his solution doesn't work the first time he won't charge you anything for additional follow up right? I'm going to stop before I lose my professionalism. P.S: In case you are not aware, the person you mentioned actually charges more than we do in some cases and won't even touch some repairs like this. P.P.S: telling another man he is stupid with his own money without knowing the situation and/or having contributed to said money is rude and ignorant and you could have kept that. The fact that you do not value not having to do research and babysit the person you are paying to do a job does not mean others don't. 16 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Kewtt: 1:40pm On Mar 16, 2021 |
radautoworks:Well said. I'll be coming for original h7 bulbs. 6 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Kettlecorn: 4:29pm On Mar 16, 2021 |
@Crocif; I have been in your shoes in the past and know how you feel. I think what you need right now are just some basic tips to help you understand what is going on with your car. @Kelvin30286063 does have some good points about having some basic knowledge of what is going on so let me help you address the main issue; blue smoke on startup. This is an indication of oil leaking past valve guide seals if only on startup, but it may be that you do not notice it when car is running. Here is a simple test you can do along with your wife to narrow down the potential cause. Have your wife stand behind the car and watch the exhaust. Put car in neutral and rev up to 3.5-4k rpm for a few seconds then back off the throttle. If you get blue smoke only when you back off the throttle, your valve guide seals are potentially leaking. If you get blue smoke continuously as you rev the engine, your rings are potentially leaking. The reason for this distinction is that when you back off the throttle, you create a high vacuum on the intake side and it sucks oil past the guides. Another simple thing to check is your PCV valve. If it is stuck closed, crankcase pressure builds up and the results are often smoking. There is a simple cheap DIY tool you can use to look through your sparkplug hole. Its called a wifi enabled endoscope. I have used it in the past to see if oil or moisture is pooled up on top the cylinder and asses their condition. The cost to remedy each of these causes is on a wide spectrum with replacing the PCV valve being the cheapest, followed by valve guide seals and finally rings at the top. This is why I said in another post that this should be the primary thing that should have asked to be diagnosed, estimated and repaired before anything else. One more thing which I mentioned before. The crankshaft rear seal leak is a big important job. A catastrophic failure here will lead to rapid oil loss and complete damage to your engine. This may be why you are getting a low oil level light if its leaking rapidly. 5 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by adanny01(m): 1:02pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
Crocif: Trust is good, but it kills. A good Dr will seek a second opinion when he is taking a major decision. Trusting the skill and experience of the best Dr can still be disastrous as no one is above mistakes. In this case, trust is least of the issues. You had one major complaint, engine smoke and engine oil pressure light. Both are signs of a dying engine and it's not supposed to be hard for any mechanic to tell you the truth. Engine tune-up to some one like me is so vague, you may think otherwise. The only other thing that causes smoke at the same time doesn't require invasive work is a PCV valve. For any professional, that's the first point of call but going after steering, sump and axle leaks is somewhat diversionary. It's like going to a Dr for a headache and the Dr refers you to an orthopedic for the k leg you have. I expect a repair plan like a Dr will do, let's change the PCV and observe for 3 days, if smoke stops, we now move to other things. A set of 23k plugs will not stop smoking nor stop the engine oil low pressure light. You sounded like you were open to an engine replacement, you needed to have known how much the engine will cost you before committing to a tune-up that guarantees nothing. This time I hope they learned their lessons and you learned yours too. I mentioned here before that the easiest repair methods is throwing parts, this means that the skill set required is minimum. The real mechanic's experience shows with a broke customer who can't afford to pay to throw parts. That's why you need to understand mechanics to even identify the mechanic's skill. 12 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by radautoworks: 2:07pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
I am going to say this one final time. The engine was diagnosed as not needing a replacement and I trust my team. 3 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Kettlecorn: 3:29pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
radautoworks: Please don't take this the wrong way, I am not trying to malign you or your business or anything of the sort. But there seems to be a communication gap between you and the OP. He is a layman and needs more explanation and hand holding than "the engine does not need replacement" to solve the blue smoke issue or he wont have come on here prematurely in my humble opinion. He wants to know what exactly will solve the issue. You don't need to explain to folks online. Only the OP is "YOUR CUSTOMER" and you should continue to communicate and deal with him directly. When the issue is resolved, we fully expect that the OP will come back and sing your praises and testify to your expertise. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by adanny01(m): 4:19pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
Kettlecorn: Exactly the point. Secondly, Engrs committed themselves to a layman assuring him the smoke and oil pressure light will stop without having to replace the engine. It's a big guarantee in my opinion that if not sorted will still disappoint the client. We all know what blue smoke is and being told otherwise by a professional, client held the words as cash in the bank. More so, the op mentioned engine replacement, that meant he has been told by previous mechanic/s that an engine replacement was eminent then finally hope came from professionals but was soon dashed. By returning the car op expects car to stop smoking and oil pressure light off. That's the focal point onwards. 1 Like |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by melviniyke2002(m): 4:49pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
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Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by radautoworks: 6:25pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
Thank you Kettlecorn and adanny01. My issue is with being incorrectly told repeatedly about the engine needing to be replaced by someone who has not seen the vehicle in person. I did acknowledge from my first post that there was no reason for op to have left without being able to have a discussion with our lead tech especially when there were still unresolved issues. The ball was definitely dropped and I appreciate the constructive criticism. If he didn't tell me, I wouldn't have known to improve further on processes. While you are right and I don't owe anyone except op an explanation, I do believe in transparency and no one is perfect. Thanks to op for taking advantage of his warranty and bringing the car back in today. I don't know what he is going to say but this is the status when it was brought back. I will update with status once the car is leaving again. I will also update with findings about the repairs that were done, the second diagnosis/remedies done by our lead tech and any errors or omissions if there were any. STATUS AT VEHICLE RETURN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOPSS6uclMA ORIGINAL STATUS at first visit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3qGlUmJrr4 2 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by id4sho(m): 6:37pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
Aunty Chop kiss radautoworks: 2 Likes
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Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Kettlecorn: 6:40pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
adanny01: So far, that is still a valid statement. It could be the PCV valve, valve guides, rings or even something else. I have seen a transmission fluid leak cause blue smoke. All of these can be replaced/rectified without a need to replace the engine. Only Radautoworks have physically seen the engine and have provided a diagnosis, so we should give them the benefit of the doubt especially since they have provided a guarantee which they are honoring. At this point, we should leave this be and allow things to follow its logical path. 3 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Kettlecorn: 6:52pm On Mar 17, 2021 |
Kettlecorn: I saw the video update after posting this. I am glad things are looking better than represented. Thanks @Radautoworks for going above and beyond with transparency. 2 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by selfmadeOLX(m): 12:05am On Mar 18, 2021 |
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Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by EgunMogaji2: 2:24am On Mar 18, 2021 |
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Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by freshvine(f): 9:06am On Mar 18, 2021 |
radautoworks: Why not consider Port Harcourt. 1 Like |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Inception(m): 9:17am On Mar 18, 2021 |
Kettlecorn: 2 Likes
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Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by asamwababy: 12:59pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
Aunty Radu, You have done well. Accepted where you dropped the ball and still reaching out to make amends even beyond your obligations. 5 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by descarado: 1:26pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
Nigerian women rocks ![]() If it's a man now, so so big grammar and insult ![]() Haven't read something like this here for a long time. 4 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Inception(m): 2:10pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
descarado: Is this necessary? 5 Likes |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by captainking(m): 2:44pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
freshvine:mrford is doing a good job here... her presence would also be awesome too |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by radautoworks: 2:59pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
freshvine:it's on our list but we need sometime who can open a franchise. |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by radautoworks: 3:00pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
freshvine:it's on our list but we need someone who can open a franchise. |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by Kettlecorn: 6:36pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
Inception: When the transmission modulator valve fails in a vehicle with vacuum controlled auto trans, the engine can suck in transmission fluid which can create blue smoke when burnt in the engine. 1 Like |
Re: From Gazzuzz To Radautoworks And Back Again…my Story. by mammanbawa: 8:05pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
Kettlecorn: 2 Likes
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