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Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by shadeyinka(m): 2:51pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
budaatum:I think we have discussed this before on this thread! From Atheists point of view can you answer this question? Is safe sex between unmarried people wrong as long as it is by consenting adults? |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by shadeyinka(m): 2:56pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
budaatum:That would be luck and grace. I will certainly not keep a lion under my roof as a pet! A wild animal can be friendly but also can be unpredictable. I repeat: if just one of her many children turn out to be an atheist as a result of her marrying an atheist, then she has only herself to blame for her stupidity and recklessness! |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 2:57pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Who is discussing sex with you? Would you like to claim a lot of Christians here do not have unmarried unsafe sex when even married Christians are having unsafe sex outside their marriage? You really need to allow Christ into your mind! |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 2:59pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
shadeyinka:Have you no shame or are you just too blind to see what you are? Hear yourself again shamelessly immorally claiming atheists are the immoral animals! |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by shadeyinka(m): 3:01pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Prov 22:6: "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it." Why shouldn't an atheist look for an atheist wife. Why would you want to marry a "brainwashed gullible" Christian? |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by shadeyinka(m): 3:10pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
budaatum:Buda, I haven't called Atheists immoral but by Christian standard they are nothing less than godless fools with no iota of Godliness! If this statement above is wrong, challenge it! Why should I marry someone with a defective spiritual DNA? Why does satan want to pollute the Christian family? |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 3:13pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
shadeyinka: As in, the way to "love the neighbours", to "love the enemies", to "till the ground for their food" and cultivate Fruits of the Spirit like the op clearly does, and not just fill your child's head with the fruitless crap you create inside your own head and believe! Damn! Can people see why Nigeria is the mess it is in if people are teaching your crap to their children? |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 3:21pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
shadeyinka: No one is telling you whom you should marry. Op simply opened a thread about his own marriage and uncharitable you jumped in with your ignorance to thrash it and him with falsehoods and lies. In my own opinion, which I am certain you will not agree with, you are the polluter of minds here, because it is very obvious to anyone who can see whom the "godless fools with no iota of Godliness" is here. |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 3:50pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
This would have been a more appropriate thread for you to go to learn. https://www.nairaland.com/6456075/date-atheist |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by shadeyinka(m): 4:02pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
budaatum:Why are you afraid of answering my question? True Christians are not immoral! In the church of Christ, we have both wheat and tares, we have both goats and sheep, we even have wolves, snakes and doves. A true Christian should not even marry a Muslim not to speak of Atheists! 1 Like |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by shadeyinka(m): 4:11pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
budaatum:I wish you had challenged why I called them godless fools... I have answered the OP as clearly as possible: shadeyinka:This above replies the Atheist who finds himself married to a Christian wife |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:13pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
JWs don't have all these headaches, just know that as one of JWs the best place to search for a future partner is within the group, you can then choose from any part of the earth but just make sure that it's within the same faith so both of you can work out your matrimony together despite the critical times that's difficult to deal with in this last days {2Timothy 3:1-5} you can still enjoy your marriage! 2Timothy 3:17 budaatum: |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by eomajeh: 4:13pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
Looking at people's comments in this thread, I cannot but fall in love with my wife all over again. Some really think she is spiritually weak for loving and marrying an atheist, but i look at her and see a STRONG woman. It takes immense strength to beat the stereotyping. Some asks why i didn't look for an atheist to get married to. I sure did not look for a Christian... I instead looked for a good PERSON - someone with good morals, good values, and balanced judgement. And when i found her; it didn't matter to me that she didn't pray, or that she prayed kneeling down or bending over. We're just a few days short of our 7th wedding anniversary; and it couldn't have been better. So, to those who think she is spiritually weak, or that i have a spiritually defective DNA, it will mean that "Spiritually weak + spiritually defective DNA = marital bliss". Forgive the pun, but my people, can't we look at people for what they are 2 Likes |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by shadeyinka(m): 4:17pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
budaatum:It is the responsibility of parents to duplicate their image in their children. Your gullible mind think it is sufficient to be good to attain the highest goal of a Christian (of which you trivialise). Why should a Christian supervise how his children will go to hell because of like love? |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:23pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
The highlighted is your target so instead of saying you married a Christian just say you married a good person (judging from your own point of view). Because a true Christian will never date an atheist talkless getting married to one! eomajeh: This is where all others got stuck! Only JWs knew that you can be nice, kind and generous but still not fit for everlasting life! |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by Kobojunkie: 4:48pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
shadeyinka:Why should an atheist be restricted when it comes to whom he/she can marry? Did God somehow make a rule against atheists marrying whomever they please? I am a follower of Jesus Christ - I stick to the Truth as taught by Jesus Christ Himself - and I am not a "brainwashed gullible" Christian. None of my old friends, many of whom remain atheists to this day, think of me as a "brainwashed gullible" Christian. So? shadeyinka:As part of the Old Covenant, God Himself commanded His people to teach His laws, which He gave through to Moses, to their children. He instructed them to talk about the commandments wherever they gather, write it on their hands, doorposts, everywhere. And as is customary with men, you tell him to do A, man will do Z. The people of course added their own "spin" to the laws of God and even threw in the kitchen table, pots and cups into their telling of the laws to their children, instead of indoctrinating generations, leading to their abandonment of the way of God, in some cases, entirely( Jesus Christ railed against the so-called teachers of the law on this in His teachings). God then announced through His prophets that He was going to bring a new deal to His people, and in the new deal, He alone would teach His people of Himself. No longer would a man have to teach his neighbor or brothers about God - God Himself will do the teaching Himself and Himself alone. When Jesus Christ, the New Covenant promised us, arrived He Himself declared again, that He and He alone is Teacher to all of His - none of His followers is to set themselves as teachers over those who belong to Him. This He made clear in His final instructions to His followers when He sent them out to go teach the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven, that which He taught them(no modifications of any kind), to the world. So, if you think that you can "train" your children into becoming followers of Jesus Christ, I am afraid you are thoroughly deceived. It is that or God is a LIAR and Jesus Christ His grand deception!. So, if you want your children to have real peace, as God Himself said, and not that imaginary peace many of the religious folks out there walk around with, I suggest you get to accepting(trusting) and obeying the teachings/commandments of Jesus Christ so that the Light of Jesus Christ can shine through you and be seen by your loved ones and those around you, as Jesus Christ commanded. |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by Kobojunkie: 5:00pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
shadeyinka:According to Jesus Christ, those who are true to Him are those who accept(trust) and obey His teachings, avoiding the plague that is the doctrine and traditions(commandments) of men. shadeyinka:Jesus Christ, the one who told you the parable of the wheat and tares, also told you of how the tares will not be separated from the wheat until after the Sower returns to harvest His crop. That is Jesus Christ there telling you, let the weeds and the wheat grow together .... shadeyinka:Jesus Christ, the one who is master over the one you call "a true Christian" never instructed that His followers separate themselves from those whom you tag "tares". Learn from Jesus Christ! |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by Kobojunkie: 5:08pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
shadeyinka:I was myself, not long ago, one of those that you call "godless fools with no iota of Godliness". Obviously, God who Himself called out to me, does not agree with you. God accepts your challenge and throws me at your religion! shadeyinka:You really believe your so-called "spiritual" DNA is any better than that of an atheist? shadeyinka:By your own admission, your family is "trained" by you in the things of God, and not by God Himself as He stated it should be in His New Covenant. Since the belief is that Satan goes against what God says, are you certain you are not yourself "Satan" in this case as far as your "Christian family" is concerned? |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by Kobojunkie: 6:01pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
shadeyinka:Back when I was still sick, I was seriously considering the use of "magic mushrooms" in the treatment of my illness. These mushrooms are no different from the herbs that many of you pop in your agbo bottles to drink - they are natural even, but to many of you, the mere mention of "magic mushrooms" sends you into a religious frenzy of sorts. Today, magic mushrooms are deemed acceptable treatment for the illness I had and even marijuana is widely used in hospitals around the world to treat pain and a whole slew of problems. Who knows, a couple of years from now, Cocaine would be found useful in the treatment of some disorder of one kind or another. There is another such herb(Ibogaine it is called) that is today banned in most developing countries. This herb has been shown useful in successfully curing addictions by shamans and local herbalists in places like Africa, Asia, and even Mexico. There are documented cases of individuals who struggled with addiction to various substances for many years, suddenly quitting completely. However, because Pharmaceutical companies have yet to realize how they can make gain from it, they continue to speak against this wonder plant. God gave it all to man and said it was all good. Jesus Christ, in His teaching, made it clear to you that it is not what you eat that makes you unclean. So, if God Himself declares that it is all Good and Jesus Christ says it is not what you eat that makes you unclean either. So, who decides if it is acceptable or not? shadeyinka:Jesus Christ did not say what is written there in 2 Corinthians 6 vs 15 at all. That is not the teaching of Jesus Christ but a doctrine attributed to the person of Paul instead. Nowhere in His teaching does Jesus Christ command His disciples to "separate" themselves in any way from the people of the world which He sent them into. And according to Jesus Christ, your marriages are themselves of this world and not of the Kingdom of God. So whatever way you chose to describe your bonds, it is of this world, and remains that way since it does not belong in the Kingdom of God. shadeyinka:An atheist has no "spiritual" values to impart in the first place. As a follower of Jesus Christ, I would also not impart any "spiritual" values on my children either, because that is against the commandment of Jesus Christ. Instead, I would let the light of Jesus Christ shine through me to all those who are around me, children included, by accepting(trusting) and obeying the commandments of God in my own walk. shadeyinka:I have seen many a married couples with supposedly opposing core values who still somehow make it work? Jesus Christ did not give His followers any rules as far as marriage is concerned. Instead, His one instruction is that divorce(without evidence of adultery) is adultery itself. shadeyinka:Fact - None of your children will ever make heaven because of you. Don't you hear what Jesus Christ tells you about this deal He offers you? You cannot, through your direct interference in the lives of anyone, aid such a one in making Heaven. The only person who can determine whether you will make heaven is you and only you! shadeyinka:Jesus Christ did not come to give you "values" but instead a Contract to which you bind yourself(not your children or your family) to when you enter into it. Christ never taught you anything about not being yoked with an unbeliever either. Stop confusing Paul with Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the one whose teachings we are called to trust and obey. Any other teaching that contradicts or seeks to add to His is not of Him. shadeyinka:Well, just so you know. Jesus Christ did not call you to condemn anyone on His behalf, not even their marriage decisions. So, God does not have a hand in what you have decided to do there. |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 8:39pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Your lack of knowledge is astounding. Your lack of desire to learn is more troubling. Like a typical believer, becoming a child is as difficult for you as it is for a camel to enter the eye of a needle. Do you understand the significance of the following? 9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.) 10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.” John 4:9-10 New International Version (NIV) Do you at all know what the following is demanding you do? 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Matthew 5:43-48 New International Version (NIV) 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 8:43pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
shadeyinka: Is it not immoral to bear false witness, shadeyinka? Is it not false witness to mischaracterise the op and his wife as you did in this thread? Oh. I get it. You are not a Christian, or you would not have acted immorally! |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by lilvicky68(m): 8:47pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
Everyone has aired his/her opinion and is right in their own manner..If I must marry an atheist it's either she converts me or I convert her..but at the end I think love covers all and the children will still be okay..If you take a look at some pastors children eh..you will understand that it's not by being Christian but it's by having a plain heart and doing good.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 8:50pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
lilvicky68: lilvicky68, I am going to let you be the teacher and I the student who has learnt that my opinion has been aired. Thank you. Do let me know how the reading/listening is going. |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by lilvicky68(m): 8:55pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
budaatum:Seriously I've not even finished chapter1..but I will still try sha..love the way you dish out the scriptures sha.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by budaatum: 9:33pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
lilvicky68: Please do not rush. I started Genesis last year and I have still not finished the OT because I read every chapter like 4-5 times, and even then I'm always learning something new. |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by lilvicky68(m): 9:47pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
budaatum:Wow..there always something new to learn from the word.. |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by shadeyinka(m): 10:01pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
budaatum:You may ascribe whatever you want to what I have said...does it matter? It is worthless statements, empty and without content. You do not even seem to know the meaning of false witness with all your readings. I suspect you are prone to Taqqiya and I am not surprised! I know that as usual, you wouldn't answer these questions because it betrays your shallowness 1. Is morality objective or subjective? 2. What is the standard of morality for Atheists? 3. Is sex before marriage between consenting adults moral or immoral? If you cannot justly and truthfully answer these questions, your comments are at best ramblings of empty barrels! |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by shadeyinka(m): 10:10pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
budaatum:You have said nothing of value here Buda. My lack of knowledge is outstanding but you forget that fool is always wise in his own eyes. You quote the Scriptures like only satan can. Didn't he assure Jesus of his protection by angels if he jumped down from the top of the temple? Love your neighbor doesn't mean partaking or promoting the lawlessness of sons of Belial! |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by shadeyinka(m): 10:25pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:I do not know what you are up to, but if I can summarize, they are 1. Christians shouldn't care about the spiritual state of the person they want to marry even if they are Atheists. 2. Christians should not worry about the spiritual knowledge acquired by their children even though their spouse teach them to be godless as somehow, they can find their path to God. 3. Christians can take any hard drugs as long as they can justify that it is for medicinal purposes. Of course, it's not what you eat that makes one unclean! 4. As a follower of Jesus Christ, I would also not impart any "spiritual" values on my children because that is against the commandment of Jesus Christ I am still shaking my head in awe! |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by shadeyinka(m): 10:33pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Ps 14:1: The fool has said in his heart, There is no God. Isn't an atheist godless? Combine these two, you arrive at "godless fools"! Kobojunkie:Are Atheists sons of God? Do they have the spiritual DNA of God? John 1:12: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" Have Atheists received the Power to be sons of God (spiritual DNA)? Kobojunkie:I do not need to respond to "senselessness"! |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by shadeyinka(m): 10:41pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:The wheat and tares are true children of God AND pseudo children of God. They look alike but they do not have the same DNA! The parable isn't about children of God versus anti-Christs. Do true children of God and Atheists look alike with respect to God? I don't know where you learned your bible! |
Re: How Can The Atheist Me Be Happily Married To My Christian Wife? See My REPLY by Kobojunkie: 10:45pm On Mar 18, 2021 |
shadeyinka:Only God is able to see into the heart of another to know their "Spiritual" state. You cannot see a person's "spiritual state". Go ask the 10's of millions of so-called Christians who taught they married a fellow Christian only to realize that they married someone no different from their own selves in cunning and deceit. shadeyinka:God Himself told you through His very prophets that you should not concern yourself with such things. He, God, is Spirit, and He has told you that He will teach His children of the things of the Spirit in this New Covenant. Do you not trust your own God? shadeyinka:I never said Christians should take any hard drugs. Teaching your children to stay away from hard drugs is common sense and has nothing to do with their being "Christians". My response there was instead to get you thinking about the question you had asked me of whose decision it was or something like . shadeyinka:You are flesh and blood... you cannot impart anything that belongs to the Spirit of God to anyone. You are not built for such. However, the teachings of Jesus Christ are all you can teach others for His teachings are Spirit, just as He taught them, mind you(any modification results in a lie). All this boils down to one thing... Do you trust the word of the one you call God or do you instead trust in your own gut feelings and not in God? |
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