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You dumbfuck i never claimed kinship to th north african berbers. I said somalis were called berbers we were among them and i spoke about sicily and al andulus. Not the conquers of spain. I show you book that seperatly independly somalis attacked european cities. Forget it you guys are to IQLESS to understand. You guys have to have your white or arab slave master to come spoon feed you about history or news. Gday im done |
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EnlightenedSoul: Im not axum! How is it far fetched about the moors when i showed you written historical Proof from book about the very moors themselves? The prophet was a dark skinned cushite i showed Proof via hadith with sahih sources yet it is far fetched. Whatever suits your bill. Be spoon fed by your beloved white arab and europeans your news. Then go lick monkey butt Doesn't that sound like plan to you? |
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gallivant: We are camel herdels, ok if thats what you believe Then i hope it makes you sleep at night. Know that At least we werent slaves and shown at the zoo as you guys were. At least we dont suffer from aid,siphillis and ebola like you guys. Stop fucking monkeys man. Historicall? You mean from your monkey Ass Then im sorry Ask Kidstranglehold to fetch some. |
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gallivant:arab worshippers who enslaved the arabs while you guys were shown of at the jungle zoo as slaves. you are the dumbest fool ive seen. you claim the moors who were muslim Then you Bash islam. Walahi you have psycological problems. |
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KidStranglehold: How am i slowpoke? The qoutes are there to give Proof not for my correction the right term. Dumb bi**ch! When They Say black They mean about dark skin the point i was trying to make. The whole thing about using black as an identifier is what i am against. You are IQLess. Atleast you agree we were part of the moorish civilization. Nuff said gday |
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Radoillo: Now you are just trolling me Map look closely retard it says berber where somalia is Proof of conquest written in book ![]() ![]() ![]() The History of the Mohammedan Dynasties in Spain: Extracted from ..., Volume 1 Dhikr Fatḥ Al-Andalus: Ibn Abd-el-Hakem's History of the Conquest of Spain From book written about moors. With the same names ibn battuta stated when he visited somalia. The Moor, whom the classical Greek and the Roman authors called Berber were black, and affiliated with the then contemporary peoples of the East Africa area . The word Berber was used in fact to refer to peoples of the Red Sea area in Africa as well as North Africans. |
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Yeah i know the origins of that Word you i"diot They were the ones who first attacked europe in spain the north africans. Then other darkskinned nations followed. Just like the definition you gave me states the darskinned in relation to the europe were called moors. You Say arab wasnt called moors Then it states in the definition you gave that it was use to discriminated against them. you dont read through what you post what a airhead |
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Why are you guys Running away and ignoring the proof i gave you. By book by pictures by Maps. The Moor, whom the classical Greek and the Roman authors called Berber were black, and affiliated with the then contemporary peoples of the East Africa area . The word Berber was used in fact to refer to peoples of the Red Sea area in Africa as well as North Africans. Add that to the several book not one several that State somalia attacke sicily and al andulus with the same names ibn battuta mentioned when he visited somalia and called the somali sultan berber. Just ignore and run away from it! Cowards keep Saying the moors were berber and west african only! I am done Gday |
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KidStranglehold: Man you are the most retarded person ive seen. The Word moor was attributed to anyone with darkskin. So no arabs were part of attacking europe also? You just State nonsense without sources.then claim i said things which i did not. Somalis attacked sicily and al andulus durin the time of the moors(fact). I showed you books Maps and etc. Then your Saying im making stuff up. Do you have your head in check? If not pull it out of that monkey butt its in. history book you can search for it. The Politics of Dress in Somali Culture By Heather Marie Akou
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Radoillo: Typical negro answer it matter cuz you said somalis were not among the moors but there are books Saying we attacked sicily and al andulus. There were many historians who wrote extensively about us during that time. You were also trying to that somalis wasnt called berber. He calls somali people berber in his book. You Even said somalis were camel herding people! I showed you our sultanates empires during that time Even how it was note how rich we were! It Matters becuz i give you Proof but you ignore it. We are located on the most strategic region for godsake Watch the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z98Thrtwf8A |
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The moors were from somalia. Dont confuse i dont speak of north africans who invaded spain. Im Taking about the written fact that somalis invaded Sicily and al andalus. Who am i claiming exactly? I am just telling you about somalis who contributed during the moorish civilization. It. Is written down on the very book about moors. Sooo Bleep off!! West african my Ass! The moors were muslim somalis were the first the convert to islam Even before the arabs. We saved and let the prophet and his followers seek refuge in zeila. Yet as i showed you we were far more rich and powerfull than west africa and Even Arabia at the time. It was noted many famous reliable historians. There is Even castle that predate any civilization in west africa and europe. Look at this video [img] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z98Thrtwf8A[/img] I showed you books on moorish civilization stating east african muslim ships attacking sicily and al andalus. The same names ibn mattuta mentioned in his books were mentioned in the books about muslim ships attacking italy and Portugal. I am making alot of sense! If you could only read and listen! |
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[url] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z98Thrtwf8A [/url]. Here watch this it is about somali midieval time and a african is doing the speaking Somali sultanates and empires http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajuran_Sultanate http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Ifat http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultanate_of_Mogadishu http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adal_Sultanate This from ibn battuta book about us rotten bastards The sultan, whose name is Abu Bakr, talks in the Mogadishu language, though he knows Arabic. We stayed there three days, food being brought to us three times a day, and on the fourth, a Friday, went to the mosque and prayed behind the sultan’s screen. When the ‘Shaykh’ came out I greeted him and he bade me welcome. He put on his sandals, ordering me to do the same, and set out for his palace on foot. All the other people walked barefooted. Over his head were carried four canopies of coloured silk, each surmounted by a golden bird. After the palace ceremonies were over, all those present saluted and retiredthis 1301 during the moorish occupation. He mentioned the same sultan abu bakr that at attack through muslim fleets from east africa according to those arabic books. Here is what he said also said in his book His name is Abu-Bakr, son of the Sheikh Omar; he is by the origin of the Berbers, and he speaks in Maqdishi, but now the Arabic language."note origins berber. I This what historian vasco da gama said I never said anything about spain nor did i claim north african berber. I said somalis were called berbers and occupied sicily and al andulus which is documented. We were part of the moors we dominated the trade and were prosperous people during that time. You guys cry and whine when euroventrics deny people being darkskin with overhelming Proof. Then you go around and do the same. Watch the video above Maybe it will educate you more about somalia. Watch the history video! I am done!! Stupid self hating monkey dick sucking somali and dumb tree hogging insecurity and inferiority driven bantu monkey. |
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What is wrong with you guys you dont read anything i show ya Then make your own illogicall interpretation. They called somalis berber it is fact i showed you Maps written Proof and everything. I didn't Say somalis were numerous i said the berbers were and somalis were among them we had ties with the portugese, arabs and ottoman empire i showed clear written sources from arabic books that east african ships attack sicily and al andulus which is somali cuz They have names like abdirahaman etc were the most influencial muslime and strongest at the time. Somalis had Great empires like ajuuran adal ifat mogadishu we defeated many europeans in the past Even rescued fellow africans from colonization. I showed you famous historians and explorers that wrote alot about us and how Wealthy we were and how large and vast the cities were like ibn battuta and vasco da gama at the moorish time. We had ties to the whole world we are located in the most stragic place on Earth for godsake. We were Great merchants who traded with the world and spoke many languages. There is Even a history book about somalia Saying that we were moors. ![]() After all this we were camel herding people? go shoot your self i showed you visual facial documented Proof. Kidstrangle you are the one with inferiority complex blindly denying your somali history and the same time sucking monkey dick wow. You guys reurgetate the same bulshitt Even do i showed written and visual proof! Now go f*ck yourself! |
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KidStranglehold:I am not trying to claim anyone but somalis. Check your history! The only thing I said from books written on moorish civilization that somalis conquered Sicily and al Andalus. I'm not claiming North African Berbers you mofo. I only stated that somalis were called Berber also(fact). Incecurities my butt! For stating written fact wow. Go suck some more monkey dick! |
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Radoillo:Who said anything about spain? I said scilly and al andulus which is Portugal and italy. I gave you information about somali ships from east africa invading european cities during moorish time. It was from well aclaimed books written on moorish civilization. They Even told you about somali sultans with names. Who said anything about marching from west Africa or morroco ? Walahi you are stupid idiot! There were more berber(somali and North Africans) and dark skinned arab moors then west african. Read the info I wrote above. I don't care if you can't imagine it you just have to accept it. Go swing from trees you are not qualified!! |
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Radoillo: bro do you look at facts when it is presented to you or you just a illiterate high school drop out? when did i say the barbary pirates are from eastern africa you retarded idiot. i was making a case that berber and barbar is practically the same retard. go look for Bilad al barbaria(land of the berbers) you will see the same. they didnt call people who spoke a language they didnt understand berber dumbass. they called kenya and other african countries Zanj. The berber was only strictly use when talked about somalis and north africans. The Moor, whom the classical Greek and the Roman authors called Berber were black, and affiliated with the then contemporary peoples of the East Africa area . The word Berber was used in fact to refer to peoples of the Red Sea area in Africa as well as North Africans. marching from morroco? man you are a dumbassss ![]() ![]() ![]() this if from History of the Conquest of Spain by the Arab-Moors: With a Sketch ..., Volume 1 ]All these sources are from Islamic History books written in Arabic but translated in English. Dhikr Fatḥ Al-Andalus: Ibn Abd-el-Hakem's History of the Conquest of Spain By Ibn ʻAbd al-Ḥakam[/quote ![]() The History of the Mohammedan Dynasties in Spain: Extracted from ..., Volume 1 By Aḥmad ibn Muḥammad al- Maqqarī, Ibn al-Khaṭīb Are you going to deny this written proof? most pitifull negro clown ive seen. pluss i as somali have great history not just this! i have hard time imagining that west africa who became muslim much later is favoured to be moors than somalis who were called berbers. wow sick joke! later you guys went back to being enslaved after you build shit in europe! there is more mentioned of berbers and arabs than any west african. |
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Fulaman198:what are you talking about? im not in west africa? do you mean the site? no somali is west africa? not sure what the hell you speaking of ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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do you realize there is a city in morroco also called barbara and look up barbary pirates. The word berber is corruption of the word barbar which in both somalia and ancient egyptian means to teach/to write. later the word became barbarian because they withnessed the hostile attitude of somalis or north africans who enslaved them. search barbary slave trade. 1,5 million white europeans were shipped to north africa as slaves. the originall people that lived their were no different then somalis in fact they were somalis. because of white slave trade and turks colonized them the appearance of the berbers in north was changed. i showed you many sources and written proof that somalia was part of the moors and contributed extensively. Try and blindly deny mofo! |
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![]() This is from a history book you can search for it. The Politics of Dress in Somali Culture By Heather Marie Akou i can give you moor proof from many sources if you want! many accounts of somali ship attacking al andalus and sicily. |
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who is a clown know? negro clown!! get you facts straight! |
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Radoillo: From Aden, Ibn Battuta embarked on a ship heading for Zeila on the coast of Somalia. He then moved on to Cape Guardafui further down the Somalia seaboard, spending about a week in each location. Later he would visit Mogadishu, the then pre-eminent city of the "Land of the Berbers" (بلد البربر Balad al-Barbar, the medieval Arabic term for the Horn of Africa).[22][23][24] here is old roman map both somalia and north africans were called berbers we named berbara after our berber past here
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here learn some of our history it is not all it is said but i tiny taste [img] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z98Thrtwf8A[/img] we beheaded several portugese leaders kill the british and took european slaves. We were the first to us cannon warfare in africa. we never been conquered by anyone! we were the greatest sailor/merchants! dubbed the merchants of africa. Somalis were part of the moors as i showed you proof. you have no bases to deny it. here are pictures of the great somali ahmed gurey i saw u afrocentics copied this image and put it on your moor black crap websites ![]() ![]() we have monument of him in somalia ![]() here is one found in many somali websites listed in 2007 and only recently found this on a afrocentric website about moors clearly pictures of somalis and look at the background somali coastal cities and ocean ![]() this also somalia [img]http://2.bp..com/-Xbok1pCaNZk/UetdVZp-atI/AAAAAAAAABs/E1LL53GM_ek/s1600/ADAL+EMPIRE+3.jpg[/img] [img]http://4.bp..com/-bAza8VWEqk4/Uetcz_F-ctI/AAAAAAAAABc/AxP1guZ7NHw/s1600/ADAL+EMPIRE+02.jpg[/img] medievel city of zeila city of light! a city every one could come and learn islam ![]() |
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Fulaman198: stop taking me seriously? im not axum dum mofo!! i am a puntite from land of the punt! look i showed you proof written factual proof from Famous historians and even listed sources. you showed me nada! just from your ape like butthole You guy are anoying!! dumb negroes go head wish you were a moor or ancient egyptian, roman,greek. |
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gallivant:there is no african root retarded mofo. Africa is continent!! IT IS FUCKING CONTINENT! it isnt a ethnicity nationality culture or race. none of that! he was no pedophile or a bastard nor is islam backwards you guys must be the dumbest creatures on earth no wonder you guys were slaves to every race on earth. violent religion. when people get bombed and face unfairity do you think they will sit back and eat potato chips like you. they retaliate naturally! when you distabilize regions what do you think is going to happen. retarded there was probably many somali inventors back then. unlike christianity you gonna just ignore the past greatness of islam. Are you butthurt because your ancestors were enslaved by muslims? Did athiesm or christianities achievement skip all those civil war countries i listed above? it is humans fault not religion look buddhist monks killing people in myanmar as we speak even hindu people killing folks there are many non believers of god killing christians and burning house even jews killing black jews for discriminatory reasons. you guys are mindless slaves you probably are spoon fed information by your white slave master through tv. islam isnt foreign like i proved to you above dumb crap! speak when you dont know shit later cry like a ugly chimp. You black negro do dumb shitt and then act like victims later. dispicable |
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ironically there are old castles in somalia and ethiopia that predate european civilization. You afrocentrics are nutt cases not any different from eurocentrics. both are two pieces of shit from the same toilet. |
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Fulaman198:You guys must have the biggest inferiority complex known to man. read what i wrote above! |
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Fulaman198: Dumbfuck go read what i wrote above. dumbass the moors were muusssslllim and ironically somalia is the only 100% muslim country and the first to except islam. Naturally we would be part of the moor. We were the strongest militarily and economically throughout africa. Werent you the one complaining about not being expected to know horn of africas history? now you are questioning me with no fact. read above what i wrote!!! somalis were called berbers and somalia was called Bilad al barbaria(land of the berbers) i listed facts from multiple islamice books and european books who mentioned somalia during the moorish time and mentioning us being apart of it attacking italy and spain read the post i made above. Somalia was a rich thriving country at the time noted by many famous historians and scholars like ibn mattuta and vasco da gama. ![]() from arabic translated ![]() This is from a history book you can search for it. The Politics of Dress in Somali Culture By Heather Marie Akou somalia has great history with many civilization, empires and sultanates. |
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gallivant: Again you monkey you speak but you dont know shit. Then you later cry about not being expect to know! let me update you on somalia before the war and after the war [img] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9FJTZVzt6g[/img] many european people left their own country to persue education in somalia. it was the first and the greatest modern state in africa before the war and had an army equall to that of the west. check your monkey president resume it probably say mogudishu university like many african leaders got putting up one of the most fiercest resistance to European colonialism (it took 3 European powers France, England and Italy to subdue Somalis), by being one of the few African nations to have a written script, by being the biggest supporters of African liberation in southern Africa Zimbabwe, Angola, Mozambique, and South Africa (in fact Mugabe once resided in Mogadisho during his struggle to liberate his country not to mention that both the the ANC`s umkhonto we sizwe and the Azania People`s Liberation Army had training bases in Somalia during the struggle against apartheid. All this when other bigger and richer African countries like Kenya and Nigeria were to afraid of the West to lift a finger to help the people of southern Africa. So by fail state you mean solidarity in African liberation then we Somalis are guilty as charged but I think you are another one of these sellout Christian African uncle toms. i could list them all! here is our president with john f kennedy. This 1960s and if you knew about the 60s the afro americans had no right do to anyhting while somali were welcomed and there bunch of somali students in america [img] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0VWkhB8HyQ[/img] Civil war is not special to us only. Even with war we aint pathetic west africa who suffer from aids ebola and all kinds monkey diseasse. here is a short list over civil war in many countries which still continues. heck many lasted longer than somalia. Somalias civil war has been over for 4-5 years you would know that if you check the news bantu animal boy. Greek Civil War, 1946-1949 Paraguayan Civil War, 1947 1947–48 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine, 1947-1948 Costa Rican Civil War, 1948 La Violencia (Colombia), 1948-1958 Korean War, 1950-1953 Laotian Secret War 1953-1975 First Sudanese Civil War, 1955-1972 Vietnam War, 1955-1975 Guatemalan Civil War, 1960-1996 Congo Crisis, 1960-1966 North Yemen Civil War 1962-1970 Colombian conflict, 1964–present Dominican Civil War, 1965 Rhodesian Bush War, 1965-1980 Cypriot Civil War, 1963-1967 Nigerian Civil War, 1967-1970 The Troubles (Northern Ireland), 1969-1998, considered ongoing by extremist minority groups Cambodian Civil War 1970-1975 Bangladesh Liberation War (Pakistan), 1971 (However, the war is not an official civil war, only to the perspective to those who did not support the existence of the independent state of Bangladesh.) Lebanese Civil War, 1975-1990 Mozambican Civil War, 1975-1992 Angolan Civil War, 1975-2002 Afghan Civil War, 1978–present Nicaraguan Civil War, 1979-1990 Salvadoran Civil War (El Salvador), 1979-1991 Internal Conflict in Peru 1980-ongoing Second Sudanese Civil War, 1983-2005 Sri Lankan Civil War, 1983-2009 South Yemen Civil War, 1986 First Liberian Civil War, 1989-1996 Rwandan Civil War, 1990-1993 Casamance Conflict (Senegal), 1990-2006 Yugoslav Wars, 1991-1995 (Ten day War, Croatian War of Independence, Bosnian War) Georgian Civil War, 1991-1993 Sierra Leone Civil War, 1991-2002 Algerian Civil War, 1991-2002, conflicts persist Civil war in Tajikistan, 1992-1997 Burundi Civil War, 1993-2005 1994 civil war in Yemen, 1994 First Chechen War, 1994-1996 Iraqi Kurdish Civil War, 1994-1997 First Congo War, 1996-1997 Clashes in Cambodia, 1997 Nepalese Civil War, 1996-2006 Rebellion in Albania, 1997 Republic of the Congo Civil War, 1997-1999 Guinea-Bissau Civil War, 1998-1999 Kosovo War (Yugoslavia), 1998-1999 Second Congo War, 1998-2003 Second Liberian Civil War, 1999-2003 Second Chechen War, 1999-2009 Islamist insurgency in Nigeria, 1999-present Since 2000[edit] Albanian rebellion in Macedonia, 2001 Ivorian Civil War, 2002-2007 War in Darfur, 2003-2009 Fourth Chadian Civil War, 2005-2010 Civil War in Iraq, 2006-2007, a sub-conflict within the Iraq War Fatah-Hamas conflict (Palestine), 2006-2007, tensions ongoing Mexican Drug War, 2006–present Second Ivorian Civil War, 2010-2011 Libyan Civil War, 2011 Syrian Civil War, 2011–present Post-civil war violence in Libya, 2011–present Iraqi insurgency (2011–present), 2011–present Azawadi War of Independence, 2012 Central African Republic conflict, 2012-present Northern Mali conflict, 2013-present South Sudanese Civil War, 2013-present Civil war is about disunity not how smart or stupid you are! go lick white people asses cuz thats what monkey does since you get all your facts from them here is somalia today ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() [img]http://halganka.files./2010/04/7533543.jpg[/img] ![]() somalia is rebuilt there almost no sign of war left in the cities. the real estate is booming and economy is rising. what is ironic djibouti is one of the most peacefull and most hospitable country in africa guess what it 80% somali country. here is how djubouti looks ![]() ![]() ![]() Do you see how you guys speak from your ass then cry im not expected to know. then dont utter a word. do i speak about west africa if i dont know anything. no i do not! somalis were part of the moors showed you proof now go home afrocentric nut
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gallivant: ou are one retarded motherfucker who knows nothing somalis became muslims before arabs themselves. We rescued the prophet and saved islam and let him seek refuuge in Zeila somalia. the arabs originally reject islam and tried to kill the prophet and his followers we gave him protection. was in the highlands of southern Ethiopia, specifically in the lake regions. Similarly, the once-common notion that the migration and settlement of early Mus,lims followers of the Prophet Muhammad on the Somali coast in the early centuries of Islam had a significant impact on the Somalis these are before(pre) islam names somalis had Abdiwaaq Abdulwaaq Yusufwaaq Diintiwaaqbelief of god etc... We were worshiping abrahamic religion almost the same as islam before the prophet PBUH that one was indegenous to us. The prophet was told to base islam on abrahmic religion by Allah swt which is what somalis practiced that is why it was a smooth conversion for us. There are mosques in somalia that dates back to the 5century in somalia. Arabia was an extenion of the horn that became severed later on due to white persian migration. if you dont know our history or culture which i dont expect you to . Then why do you speak? dumb monkeey. NO Get off your high your high horse you are the one questioning my history and now you suddenly act like a scared monkey. i am not related to arabs of the past? i am from darood clan lets see
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gallivant: wow ok ![]() [img][/img] During the Middle Ages the Europeans were was marked by difficulties and calamities including famine, plague, and war, which much diminished the population of Western Europe; between 1347 and 1350, the Black Death killed about a third of Europeans. Whilst in my country (Somalia) it was going through it's golden period. In the Middle Ages, Mogadishu along with other coastal Somali cities in the south east of the Horn of Africa came under the Ajuuraan Empire's sphere of influence and experienced another Golden Age. When Vasco da Gama passed by Mogadishu, he noted that it was a large city with houses of four or five stores high and big palaces in its center and many mosques with cylindrical minarets From Aden, Ibn Battuta embarked on a ship heading for Zeila on the coast of Somalia. He then moved on to Cape Guardafui further down the Somalia seaboard, spending about a week in each location. Later he would visit Mogadishu, the then pre-eminent city of the "Land of the Berbers" (بلد البربر Balad al-Barbar, the medieval Arabic term for the Horn of Africa).[22][23][24] Bilad al-Barbar (Barbara) was the term that medieval Arab geographers and scholars reserved for the northern half of the Horn of Africa. The Arabs had the habit of naming a particular geographical area according to whatever the inhabitants of that landmass happened to be. Due to its core Hamitic inhabitants, this part of Northeastern Africa was thus referred to as the "Land of the Berbers". some more info from books about somalis being moors and attacking italy and spain ![]() History of the Conquest of Spain by the Arab-Moors: With a Sketch ..., Volume 1 The Moor, whom the classical Greek and the Roman authors called Berber were black, and affiliated with the then contemporary peoples of the East Africa area . The word Berber was used in fact to refer to peoples of the Red Sea area in Africa as well as North Africans ![]() ![]() ]All these sources are from Islamic History books written in Arabic but translated in English. you guys actively speak from your asses all the time. camel herding please we have been the most civilized and the greates traders and merchants in africa. Dumb west african monkey!! |
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gallivant: Arab bottom? Arabs dont help somalis nor do they fund anything other than extremism please dont confuse these persian white evil people with the arabs of the past who were the same race as somalis. i am not defending arabs i am defending islam. No wonder the world doesnt like west africans and afro americans they are too stupid to understand other peoples history. You think you own the continent and that if we dont behave or look like you guys we are kissing someone elses butt or are mixed ok dumb fool. Islam and arab is not synomimous. You guys pass assumptions like they are truth! lets see if somali kiss arab bottom shall we "Do not trade with a Somali for he deceives , if he comes to your door do not open it, and if he breaks in then pray to God for protection".-Arab saying We enslaved and murdered whenever we felt like it they feared us. We call arabs Dhegacas(readeared cowards) and Khanisadoon(Gay slaves) look up reer xamar or barawani they are descandents of arab slave we had. This whats wrong with you west africans and afro americans you think you own the continent! That people should practice the same culture like you and look like you. You wont find that in asia! no chinese expects and indian to look like him and behave like him. Pluss it is not our fault the whole arabia became white not to long ago the arabs looked like us and practice the same culture as somalis. these people are white persian and armenians who assumed the arab identity read what written below. it is from a book
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Fulaman198: Are you stupid? The moors were in a corners of europe! it was a collective islamic civilization. The moors were darkskinned muslim horners they were darkskinned muslim arabs muslim darkskinned north africans and some muslim West africans. the most influencial of them all were Berbers aka somalis and Arabs. This was collective islamic civilization. |
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