EgunMogaji:


There's a lot of quacks on here I've been finding out but there are a few good ones. I actually went back into the archives to read many eye popping stories. As I suspected as in your case many folks don't report bad work. Imagine that major artisans on here are being lured to Owerri and robbed but none opened a thread to warn others. One thing is not making a post about poor performance but you should at least warn people via private email, just my opinion. Any Nairalander that does work for me is assured of a fair review and feedback, good or bad it's their handiwork that will decide that.

I pray that we all find artisans that shares our ideas of what a quality job is.

Spot on!

Please fellas, it's not easy for that hard earned money to come by. Will you be able to go to bed peacefully knowing you could have prevented a disaster?


Help others and God will help you too in return.

FastShipping:


2,500 sq. ft house is a very big house. By looking at Qc1 house, it should be around 2500-3000 sq. ft too. Regardless of size, a house deserves good finishing. Kitchen, bathrooms, ceilings and tiles are the most important to me in a house. If you don't get any of those finishing right, the adventure wont be worth it at the end. I have been trying to work with Skimanski to finish my house for me since August last year and up till now I am still waiting for him to do the house. Earlier this year I went with another nairalander and he turned out to be quack. I over spent by about 600,000 naira after I paid him in full, yet the work didn't come out as it should. I had to get someone to correct the work and I ended up paying another 310,000 naira to correct the work. The said nairalander was begging me not to tell other nairalanders because his source of income would be destroyed and his family can't do without him. I got Hajj involved and decided to cut my loss and let go.

Please do not hesitate to name the quake contractors so that others will beware of him. N600,000 IS NOT A SMALL MONEY.

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EgunMogaji:


I like your thought process. A kitchen is never too big for a family, it give you an opportunity to be creative.

Good one there!

Now let see what the madam say about this. BTW, how much should I budget for either of those kitchen ?

TinoTino:



Is not a problem sir it means it will have loads of cabinets and the island table will be big size is never a problem it's breed room for creativity

Yo! I gotta be honest with you man, my wife's in charge of everything that gotta do with the kitchen. We agreed she has 100% decision about designs and equipments. If you can impress her with some pictures...then you have yourself a contract.


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TinoTino:
We did this also

But my kitchen is too big...any more ideas?


Thanks.

TinoTino:
hello sir lovely work on your project, please for your wardrobes and kitchen cabinet please contact us, view my thread for professional and neat jobs.

https://www.nairaland.com/1957964/corinthians-furniture-dealers-home-furniture/4

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Can you post your best kitchen with marbles and counter top here?


Thanks

phorget:
Wow!!... you've done a great job so far, do keep up the good work and may the almighty grant you the financial strength to see you through this project and many more in life...
However, for your POP design, Tiles and Screeding/Painting jobs you can contact us. We deliver a first class job at a very reasonable cost. God bless you.

Thanks.

BrabusNG:


Me, of course!

To you, this funny to your clients its just a very sad and unfortunate loss.

3strike:
Watch out for this page........ my thorough review of Brabus CEO NextHome is coming soon. You don't want to miss this if you are building or ever plan to build.

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Can't wait!

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Now that's a professional job well done.

I spent about N5m on the raft alone, had my engineer did it like the pic above, there wont be any reason for sinking.

enrilove12:

Point one.....for you not to be sure then you can't just conclude that your house sank because you said that pics is less than two weeks meaning the 20trips av been done according to ur earlier post that u av used 20trips
Point two. ...You can only be sure it sank if and only if no single filling was done around it when you discovered it....like the two storey building around my area that sank there was no single filling around the raft after ground breaking.so its easy to use the word Sank

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enrilove12:

From your last pics...I could still see abt 1ft foundation height above ground level at the front balcony...I think thats wot is left after the 20trips perimeter filling you did.
If actually the house sank, and a whole 20trips was done around the house then you would av been aving the reverse...I.e the ground would av been higher like 1ft or more than the balcony foundation height in your pics

From that pic, (again I'm not very sure) we had maybe 8 or 9 trips of fillings and the rest after the pic.

EgunMogaji:


I tend to want to agree. For that much sinkage won't their be corresponding cracks and other damages on the walls, windows, etc

There were some cracks.

enrilove12:
Looking more closely on brabus pic. ..I can deduce that the perimeter filling around the building was ongoing and since you used 20trips of filling..that is more than enough to cover the raft foundation around the house..
So I don't think your house sank

But the whole raft have vanished like the "Ibadan witches" !

enrilove12:

I have seen the pics...you said that was 20day after ground breaking
Question. ..when did you discover the house sank..was it before this 20trips or after the 20trips?

I would love to answer this question precisely but I can't because the house carcass (minus roofing) was done in just 7 weeks. It happened so fast that I can't specific. That pic was maybe about 15th day on project.

enrilove12:

From your post 20trips of filling sand around the building is enough to cover the raft foundation, making you feel the house actually sank....dont you think so too?
My house foundation was 5feet tall above ground level for a very long time but after compound filling and levelling for interlocking only abt 1ft left....

I agree with this consideration. Check out the pic posted by brabus(page 3), I will like to hear your inference base on that pic. Thanks.


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@semitunde

As you can see from the pictures, this building structure in unique not a bungalow (there are 4 rooms upstairs). The builder didn't do the slab before the raft, he just did the raft directly which is the reason why the house sank this much (and I hope I'm wrong).The area is not a sand filled but my property happened to be at the extreme end of the block and swampy.

@semitunde


The image below shows the level of the house which is still standing about 13.5 coaches tall. The inside is the same level with the outside. The boy in blue is about 5f 11" tall, this gives you the more ideas about the height. At this point, the very first picture I posted on this thread (the raft) is completely disappeared but the house haven't sink for about a year now. The roof was done in February and I've observed the house haven't sink at all (This picture is less then 2 weeks old). My worries is; if I go ahead and cover the floors with marble and part of the wall too, will it sink? if so how much?

I'm waiting for the dry season to do the drainage.

Thanks.

semitunde:


This is rather unfortunate.

I remember the initial thread and the suggested solutions to the problems then...

My take is:

1. Pls you can still do some of what brabus suggested I.e. construct a V-drain on the side the water is coming from( outside the wall) and drain away.

2. I would disagree with brabus on planting within the area though. I think its better to pave or use interlocking in the compound. Slope it gently in the same direction as the natural flow of water there and provide a drain along the wall, withing the compound where the water can collect. Drain it out from there. Keeping your compound and hence foundation area as dry as possible means disallowing the soaking of water withing the compound. Run it all off.

3. Pls where is the site located? Just the area or state. Piling, which should have been the best option could have been revealed with proper soil test. But information about the general area and other building foundations there could have formed the decision of the contractor/ structural ENGR in deciding on raft ( and the type of raft used).

4. Sad as this might be, adding 2 or 3 courses to the block wall above the raft will ameliorate the situation. Its not guaranteed to solve the problem. If the bearing capacity of the soil underneath the building is low and probably below the water table; the building will sink more with added weight. Though the weight from tiling shouldn't really be the big deal here, so you can tile. You best bet is constructing those drains.

5. Use electric wired fence to keep the pests out.

I have a site in Ogun state like this too, inclined and just by the main stream. Only difference is there's isn't runoff and the soil there is well compacted at a particular depth. I went for that depth.

Thanks boss, your input is well appreciated.

I forget to tell make clear that I also filled the perimeters with about 20 x 20 tons of red filling sand, which was not a very good idea. I should have used sharp sand. This also make it look like the house was virtually sinking.

It is well in Jesus name.

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BTW

any solution to question# 2?

brabus:


Pls call me +2348023429122 or whatsapp

Hmmmmm. ...

@ all

I want to thank you for your contributions, keep it coming.

Please note that I never call anyone out because I believe we are all human and no one is above mistakes.

I've worked so hard to support brabus in the past and I don't believe in destroying the good that I've done regardless the aftermath circumstances.

You've all being great! Respect!

brabus:
Nice one @EgunMogaji

Your points well noted. The OP is my BIG bro. That's the way we normally relate.

@Qc1, Baba abi no be so?

Do the needful and leave other things outta this!

brabus:


Bros I'm not other builder and I don't claim to know it all. It's explains the reason I posted this early enough to seek the opinion of the other experts. Afterall, two good heads are better than one. One of the reason why I love this forum.

https://www.nairaland.com/1338637/chateau-ile-oluji-construction-journal/44#20537007

At that point, if we've implemented every solution. We may not have a carcass but we will have succeeded in stabilizing the ground which is the main problem.

But yet you continue to work abi? Have I ever refused to released any funds for anything?

brabus:


Of course, I left the project when the recommendations were not followed. The time to implement those fix was when we wanted to do the perimeter fencing and drainage. The foundation is still 3 boards over natural ground level.

Even when I was called back, the first thing I did was to stop the settlement and recommend further solutions to deal with the problem. Im sure the OP will remember he didn't call me back to come and fix the foundation but to roof the structure but I said the settlement needs to be fixed first.

Pic: the picture of the foundation when we discovered the source of the problem.

The picture posted was just maybe 20 days after breaking the ground. Other competent builders here will have discovered the problem even before commencing anything on the land. When you were digging the earth for the raft didn't you see the land?

brabus:


Ok sir.

Just a gentle reminder.

On the 30th January 2015, when you call me to come for the roofing of the building. I checked the structure and told you we need to do underpinning before installation of any roof which at first you were reluctant to do.

If you remember, I also advice you not to go for Stone-coated tiles due to the weight on the structure and recommended step tiles.

You'll recollect I did the underpining first before any wood was place on the structure.

YES this you did. Thus was the first time we will discussed about the solution and never before.

I did exactly what you suggested but the point is this was more than one year after the problem. Moreover, I supervised all the job done on the site by myself (as I've done with most of the job before) after I got tired of your MIA.

brabus:
@OP,

It still doesn't change the fact that I told you everything.

Before I go ahead and share a post on this forum, we've already discussed it.

https://www.nairaland.com/1338637/chateau-ile-oluji-construction-journal/44#20528892

You never discussed anything with me. You ran away and the only place you will talk was on this forum after how many months?

enrilove12:


There is one good structural Engr living close to your site at Ikorodu there...he is handlling my project as well in a worst terrain than yours. When it rains heavily., My compound never had any water on it even while its raining till date for abt 3years now...its flows out ..will give you his details on request but be ready to do as he tells you because he doesn't compromise on quality..

I think a good drainage will stop this problem. I haven't done any drainage yet because I'm planning to do a massive one that will solved the problem once and for all.

brabus:
@Hajji, I wish I have the power to do just about anything I like in a project. Take unilateral decisions when resolving problems. But here I am, I saw the problem, I found the source of the problem, I researched and proposed a fix but it was never implemented even after pointing out the dangers of not doing so.
I knew the neighbour is not financially buoyant to do anything about the problem or maybe unconcerned. So what am I supposed to do in this case? Was any of the proposed implemented? Why?

This is not the time to point accusing fingers. This is time to fix the problem and stop the blame game.

I'm sure the OP will remember what I told him when I left the project because of low budget for the perimeter fence and the drainage before it became DIY and eventually fell down.



We all need to listen to professional advices when we have opportunity to get one. Even get 100th opinion when in least doubt. And stop rushing projects especially in difficult terrains.

Even after doing the underpinning in January 2015, I still suggest the sandfilling of the compound before the rainy season. Has it been done? I'm not sure.

How dare you come out here with this lies? Don't you have a shame at all? I'm so ashamed of you that I can't even mention your name!

When and where did you ever proposed a solution to me? You called what you posted on nairaland a solution? Did I paid you through nairaland? Did I complained to you through nairaland? Was the land physically on nairaland? Did you examined the land through nairaland? Do you even know how much your negligence have cost?

Do not mistaken a kindness for stupidity. I shared the blame because I was warned my others here yet I trusted you. I've not called you out because I don't want to embarrass you. How dare you posted this nonsense about telling me any suggestions? Even if I said nothing can't you hide your shame?

May the Lord be my withness if you ever face to face tell me about this.

This fact you display this here just display your characters.

Wow!

brabus:
You don't have to do a long search. Here is the link https://www.nairaland.com/1338637/chateau-ile-oluji-construction-journal/48#25106996

Sure! Medicine after death!