iamord:

Which power do u export to ghana and how many mega watts?

yuncka: Activate Regional governmnet.

pleep:

Well i certainly agree with you if you are saying that the democratic system of government is not effective for Africa. But we have tried totalitarianism and it didn't work either.

You want a strong government? Well Congo, Equatorial Guinea, swaziland and many other countries have had the opportunity to create progressive totalitarian governments but they failed. Because of the human element and because of excessive ethnic diversity. Will the igbo support a dictator who is fulani? Will the hausa support a yoruba dictator? no. The reason chinese communism was so successful is because the country is 91% the same ethnicity and were already unified.

pleep:

Well i certainly agree with you if you are saying that the democratic system of government is not effective for Africa. But we have tried totalitarianism and it didn't work either.

You want a strong government? Well Congo, Equatorial Guinea, swaziland and many other countries have had the opportunity to create progressive totalitarian governments but they failed. Because of the human element and because of excessive ethnic diversity. Will the igbo support a dictator who is fulani? Will the hausa support a yoruba dictator? no. The reason chinese communism was so successful is because the country is 91% the same ethnicity and were already unified.

pleep: This is the same thing that happened in Germany, England, the Arab states, Japan etc etc etc. This natural process was Halted in africa because of colonization and artificial borders.

and as a result we are left with thousands of pointless states and ethnic groups instead of strong unified nations. Its a bad situation, but the best solution would be to abolish these artificial borders and let natural ethnic states form again.

chulla12:

Coastal West Africa seems to have the most ethnic diversity out of all the regions. Seriously, eek at this map!

On the other end, the Sahelian/Maghreb region seem to have more consolidated ethnic affiliations. Something to do with the wave of Islamic Jihads over the region in past centuries? Or is this just as a result of a sparse population of people over a desert-type land-mass?

I also see that the North African groups become more splintered as we go further up north...towards the Mediterranean.

pleep: You guys keep finding ways to miss the point. China is 91% Hans chineses... its not the communist party that keeps them united. They were united 2000 years ago nigga!

What would it matter if the ife voted for the ife candidate when the ijesha made up 91% of the population? It is the natural flow of progress, the strong ethnic groups consume the weak ones, and either the weak join them, or end up marginalized and oppressed like the Uygers and Tibetans.

Watch how the hans chinese unify their nation for the first time in 500 B.C

pleep:
Your message is irellevant.

Igbo, yoruba and and hausa can be classified into subgroups. Do u know how many millions of groups there would be if you divided africa like that?

The reason china is powerful is because, despite having many subgroups, they are united into one language and one culture and all see themselves as hans chinese. Nigeria, on the other hand, has groups that speak different languages and have different cultures

pleep:
Your message is irellevant.

Igbo, yoruba and and hausa can be classified into subgroups. Do u know how many millions of groups there would be if you divided africa like that?

The reason china is powerful is because, despite having many subgroups, they are united into one language and one culture and all see themselves as hans chinese. Nigeria, on the other hand, has groups that speak different languages and have different cultures

kingston277:
Where have you see Europeans uniting? Other than EU/NATO I
haven't. In fact the USSR and Scotland issues are suggesting
otherwise.

Good luck trying to unite people with no ethnic, historical,
linguistic, or religious affiliation. The mass tribalism will surely
keep that super-nation under Western thumbs.

kingston277:
Where have you see Europeans uniting? Other than EU/NATO I haven't. In fact the USSR and Scotland issues are suggesting otherwise.


Good luck trying to unite people with no ethnic, historical, linguistic, or religious affiliation. The mass tribalism will surely keep that super-nation under Western thumbs.


Quite a few, along with Irish, Chinese and Indians. Africans were the largest but it remains under debate what lead to the scale the slave trade got to. We don't have all the answers.


Africans didn't need to buy any slaves, warfare allowed them to capture, enslave, and extract information from reversal Europeans. Look at King Agaja or the Kanem-Bornu Empire. Foreign slaves were very valuable in those days.


To an extent they did...
http://historum.com/middle-eastern-african-history/68815-slaves-brought-into-sub-saharan-africa.html
...But they also traded beast of burden, weapons and horses, too.

chulla12: Not sure where you got the impression that I said forward thinking and intelligence means forsaking your inherent ideologies or languages.

Igbos, Yorubas, etc already have an established basis for nation building due to a central language and unique ideologies and languages. Nice and dandy, but they also have to create opportunities that address problems peculiar to nation states such as Yorubaland or Igboland. Hence my allusion to "inventiveness."

What defines a nation's competitive advantage, for instance? If there isn't an organic or homegrown definition, how do you create one?

Japan is a testament to the possibilities for a country that has found the answers.

Omarbah:
yes to learning a European language, English in particular but NO to giving up your own. Like I said in my previous posts, nothing prevents an education system in native languages with English being taught as a second language. At the current pace, we will stop being Africans in the long term. We'd be another version of Akatas LOL

chulla12: There are several well run countries below 200,000 in
population.

I'd say to allow any group (no matter how insignificant you find them) to break away if they are fine with self rule.

I never said that every mono-ethnic country will be better. But there will be significant improvement in cohesion among the people.

An Ife-Modakeke crisis will be easier contained than a Tiv-Fulani struggle, IMO. Sometimes we have to quantify the various degrees of our cultural differences to understand what works and what doesn't.

In any case, smaller countries mean smaller problems.

Fulaman198:

This is due to severe inferiority complex and i have mentioned this before on these forums. People are more likely to accept torture and abuse from a white guy than they would from another African/black person.

If a white person is throwing and shoving their culture down a Nigerian's throat they think it's ok, but heck when another African is doing it, to them it's not ok. I've brought this double standard up on numerous occasions years back. I don't mind what the official language of Nigeria is, but let it be an African language for crying out loud.

chulla12: I would have to agree that mono-ethnic countries have a better chance of success than their multi-ethnic counterparts.

At least it's one less problem (i.e. ethnic tensions) to worry about.

If Western and Northern Europe can thrive with several small and ethnic countries (i.e. france for the french, sweden for the swedes, etc), I don't see why this should not be the case for Africa.

Is a Swedish president from a mono-ethnic country of 10 million people inherently more suited to UN trade deals than an Igbo or Yoruba president (with potential mono-ethnic national populations of 30-ish million)?

Omarbah:
this surprises me with Africans, we can accept English, a foreign language from Europeans that used to dominate us and did us a great deal of evil, but we will refuse the language of another African ethnic group.

pleep: bro do you realize that there are more ethnic groups in nigeria alone than in all of Europe?


When they colonizers came to Africa all they had to do was pit one tribe against another, sell one tribe guns and let them destroy and enslave their neighbors. Could they do this in China? no, because china was ethnically one, could they do this in japan? no because japan was ethnically one. Open your eyes as see how ethnically homogenous region progress 1000X faster.

pleep: bro do you realize that there are more ethnic groups in nigeria alone than in all of Europe?

Ethnic diversity = chaos.

Why do u think that Europe's poorest and most unstable region (the East and balkan region) also happens to be its most diverse region? Ethnic diversity is the enemy of unity and the enemy of progress and has been the downfall of Africans for all our history.

When they colonizers came to Africa all they had to do was pit one tribe against another, sell one tribe guns and let them destroy and enslave their neighbors. Could they do this in China? no, because china was ethnically one, could they do this in japan? no because japan was ethnically one. Open your eyes as see how ethnically homogenous region progress 1000X faster.

Unibenstudent: Just wondering is it fair to sell oil in oil producing states at exorbitant costs? Is it fair

Nobleval: Fake list! Nigeria should occupy the second position. Btw did I read that we have over 300 aircrafts? I don't believe that poo. Why can't we use at least 30 of them to fight bh?

donroxy: The problem is some powerful African leaders covertly take instructions from some supremacists than their very own people !!

Merging smaller African countries together will no doubt has multiplie beneficial effect on the whole of Africans but don't forget, it is would be like you are merging France and UK together and both countries won't allow that (never) ....

The question is who will bell these cats ?