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musawisdom: do you know that half unclothedness is part of their means of worship. why would they like to see you dressing morally and descently.Muslim men are not required to wear hijab. Going by your logic does that mean they are immoral And indecent? |
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Geez, Why you trying so hard to prove that your Quran is incomplete and useless without some man made narration? The Quran claims to be the Qur’an, on repeated occasions reiterates its claim to be a clear book (5:15) easy to understand (44:58, 54:22, 54:32, 54:40) explained in detail (6:114), conveyed clearly , (5:16, 10:15) with no doubt in it (2:1), with clear ordinances , ( 98:3 ), of divine nature , ( 10:37 ) full of wisdom , ( 36:2 ) etc. Yet you tell us that we must first learn its “hadiths” in order to understand its meaning or Islam. If that is the case then what shall we make of the above claims of the clarity of the Qur’an? If we first need to learn the “hadiths” before we begin to understand it, then the claim that the book is clear and easy to understand is false. Goodluck to you in your quest of trying to prove that the quran is incomplete. Not sure if you'll need it, still ![]() |
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@Op i answered your questions And got banned because i used "twisted logic". Mac please unhide my post and probably untwist my twisted logic after all he said the topic is for everybody ![]() Dan_de_Numeruno: |
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Islamophobia is a fallacy. You can say Islam-hater. That I agree. But one can’t be “phobic” of a belief. This is a deception. But as Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s propaganda minister said, if a lie is repeated often it will be believed as truth eventually. A good example is “homophobia.” This is a fallacy. Homosexuality is a disorder no different from eating disorder or a personality disorder. Homosexuality is a sexual disorder, like sadomasochism, fetishism, zoophilia and pedophilia. Now these disorders are not all thesame and have different implications, but theyare all disorders. I am not a homophobe for considering homosexuality a disorder. Homo means same. I don’t have an irrational fear of men. But this lie was repeated so much that today most people have fallen for it. The idea was to stifle any criticism about this subject and they succeeded. It is a tyrany of thought. All totalitarian systems are fascitic and want tocontrol and manipulate your thoughts Now they even have gay pride parades, as if there is something to be proud of a disorder. This is how masses are manipulated through propaganda. They shame you into silence. Few people dare to say homosexuality is not normal. If they do, they will be called biggots. They even gave it a chichi name: “gay”, meaning happy. This is also a lie. Homosexuals are not happy. Muslims are using the same deceptive tactic. They want to stifle the legitimate discussion about Islam. So they invented this lie and with the help of their leftist lackeys who gave us the fallacy of homophobia they will repeat it until it is seen as truth. [b]But Islam is an ideology. No one can have an irrational fear ofan ideology. You can strongly disagree with an ideology and you can even hate it, but you can’t be phobic of it. Ideologies don’t have fangs. It is their believers who may have fangs. Now, it would be more logical to say Muslimphobia. Muslims can hurt you. If you see a group of Muslims coming out of a mosque, you would be wise to run as fast as you can. This poor Hindu in Bangladesh was not Muslimphobic. He passed in front of a mosque when the worshippers of Allah had just finished their Friday prayer and were coming out of it. They grabbed him, they dragged him inside the mosque, they beat himuntil he died. ![]() It is a fact that people are developing Muslimphobia. They are not becoming Muslimphobic because of what I write, but because of what Muslims do. What is the best representative of Islam? The Quran or Muslims? Of course every Muslim willagree that the Quran is the best representative of Islam and Muslims don’t represent Islam at all. Well I have a copy of the Quran on my shelf next to me. I am not afraid of it. But I will be afraid if a Muslim shows up in front of my door. I think this is true for everybody. So it is clear that Islamophobia is a lie. Muslimphobia is debatable, because phobia is irrational fear and there is nothing irrational about fearing Muslims.[/b] 1 Like |
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Banned by maclatunji in Islam for Muslims for Misrepresenting Islam. When someone asks Muslims questions, you allow us answer or ignore the person not bringing your twisted logic to bear on the subject matter. Simple rule- Islam for Muslims not Islam for St. Paris. . Ban expires on 12:13am On Dec 10 The question i answered was meant for everyone. Don't mind him, instead of untwisting my logic he decided to flex muscle. it's not like i care ![]() |
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Allahu Akbar more miracles in Pics ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
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BetaThings: This boy you must be very silly. What has this your stupíd challenge got to do with the fact that your religion treats women like trash? Do you know how your fellow muslims behave in India? Do you know your fellow just destroyed a hindu temple there just few days ago? Have you tried to verify the story cus i read it elsewhere before? I bet if the stupid guys that banned womenn from using phone were as rich and sophisticated like saudi arabia they would've plant a tracking device in there women too. I don't why most of you muslims twisted morality is targeted mostly at women. Like many on this thread have asked why were the men not banned from using phones too? You should go and challenge those muslims misunderstanding your religion of peace not us. Talk about misplaced priorities. Nonsense www.nairaland.com/attachments/907630_hell_jpgbafc617a1977f88722b207b52012dd88 www.nairaland.com/attachments/907629_tell_him_png2e387218e3c53a49eea036bdf68ced1a 1 Like |
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maasoap: You can't defeat Jihad. What is Jihad? Fight against injustice, oppression, indiscipline, e.t.c. Not Boko Haram senseless and indiscriminate killings.Shut it, Jihad is terrorizing non muslims, beware of muslims like this when they use this type of word. -when he says he's fighting injustice they mean freedom of thought/speech. This is the greatest corruption as far as Islam is concerned. -when he says he fighting oppression he means we fight disbelief. You become an oppressor the moment you say I don’t want to be a Muslim. -when he says he's fighting indiscipline he means fighting those women that disobey their law of wearing tent(hijab) 2 Likes |
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Baba-Ibrahim:Are you foolish? A military barrack was infiltrated and attacked on their watch, the very same people responsible for protecting the lives and Properties of the nation. They shouldn't have waited to be removed but resign honorably. 2 Likes |
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Smh, knew the answer wasn't forthcoming, unfollowing thread. Gay muslims, Gay mosque even with paradise that promises young pearl for Gays. Lol ![]() ![]() |
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Yawns, still waiting for them to show me the lineage from Quran. Did quran mention levi anywhere? Yawns again (why do i've this feeling they'll never show me?) ![]() |
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Thanks Usisky for all your explanations, i think we all know where the root of the problem comes from. Thanks for the gift as well ![]() ![]() See ya |
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I'd love to see the lineage Quran gave Jesus. The same book that was confusing Mary and Miriam the sister of Aaron? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Hmmm lemme think...i've 3 to 4 candidates who do i nominate? Sweetnecta He seems like a cool guy and his posts are quite educating and funny you know the ways he goes about with his theories but they're unnecessary long which is irritating so that's a No for me. usisky I like his views on religious stuff, he already rejected half of Islam which is hadith, sunnah, tradition whatever which of course is good news. But he's wary of persecution from his brothers and sisters in the religion of peace and the Moderator. I'd love to read/hear more from him, till then well [b]No. That said i nominate LagoShia, whether he has been banned or not. If you like hide my post or even ban me, i don't care. ![]() 2 Likes |
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seyibrown:Yea that and also what did he mean by 'And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. ? 1 Like |
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Of all the laws and commandment God gave in the OT you guys choose to follow only one, tithe. Why? 2 Likes |
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Don't quote me next time if you've nothing sensible to say. ![]() |
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smemud: All muslims haters can die.Proud to be a muslim...jesus is ur saviour not my saviour....jesus cant even save himself 4rm the pain of the cross...And u think he can save u..pls wake up my xtain friend..Thank Allah i am muslim.Hey Mac, did you miss this? This proud idiót is writing Christ name in small cap. Something you've hidden my entire thread for! Back @ topic, why is it anybody's business on who visits the country and who doesn't? Was it not the same country David visited selling huge weapons to? No, they won't protest that, just like they won't protest Assad killing of more than 40,000 muslims including women, children and counting but will not let the world rest if Israel defends herself from rocket launching hamas. Ídiots. By the way, google survey have shown that pornogràphy is watched more in majority muslim countries, go figure!. Bunch retardéd hypocrites. ![]() |
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Sweetnecta: ^^^ Saint Paris and others: Islam is my religion. It is what my fore fathers practiced. My grand father. His father. And maybe even more fore fathers than what i listed. ![]() www.nairaland.com/attachments/902625_tell_him_png2e387218e3c53a49eea036bdf68ced1a 3 Likes |
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Lol funny guy, sure the Prophet's life is hard to imitate, you can't even marry a 9yr old or 2 wives in that kafir land talk more 9/11/13 +women he married. Damn this Americans ![]() |
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seanet01: There is going to be the bloodiest of Repercussion on the Whole Northern Leaders who are brainwashing this animals with religion. This is not Islam, This is not Islam.Oh shut up idíot, this is Islam, they killed for that Allah as he command in his unholy Quran. Annoying cretin |
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Aren't we all feeling the peacefulness of Islam? ![]() 2 Likes |
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^as you wish sire, just trying to differentiate you from the likes of vedax & co ![]() |
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^as you wish sire, just trying to differentiate you and the likes of vedax ![]() |
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Let's try to live and coexist in peace ![]() 21 Likes
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usisky: Peace unto you too, thanks for your input it was very educating. Thanks also for accepting that Muslim divorce their women by uttering divorce thrice. This is very problematic and very degrading for the women, but nah you choose to berate me for pointing it out. But before you condemn those that do it, know that they have their backing from both Quran and Hadiths which is the sunnnah of the Prophet. Most of the sources i've used here as you erroneously thought is not from anti islamic site, it's from sites from Islamic scholars imagine that. So It's really something you and fellow enlightened ones like you need to educate the others not wait till an 'islamoqhobia' points it out to you. I agree with most of what you've said, I'll point a few i don't ![]() The "SHI'A RELIGION" also have their share of absurd teachings- like temporary marriage(which they deceptively Lol, whatever Shia's are doing am sure it has backing from the Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet no? Was Muhammad engaging in prostitution when he engaged in Muta marriage? I wonder what lagoshia and co would say about this. You see what am saying, you know of all this laws that supposedly protect women and you decide to keep quite and wait till someday? Till when? You know all this things but keep mute but when a non muslim points it out you start lecturing or are you lying to save face for Islam? If not what are you waiting for? Now you talk of fatherly figure how's that even possible when adoption is banned in islam? Yea well learned muslim here like Sweetnecta have told it's banned in Islam. So your idea of being a fatherly figure is already contradicted. Now what of the Sunnah of the Prophet? Did he marry any mother of orphaned? Why did he marry Aisha when he already had a wife sauda? Didn't he break this rule too when he married Zaynab and others like her? huh ![]() 2)Divorce- a man cannot divorce his wife by merely saying "talak"(divorce) thrice, this is satanic and un-quranic. The divorce described in the quran serves to protect the woman's interest and not vice versa. Good, let's hear what Islamic scholars say about this. 'The above is clear in pointing out that a innovated divorce (in all its various forms) is unlawful (and sinful) and contrary to the teachings of the Shariah. One must avoid Talaqal-Bid`a at all times. However, this does not mean in any way that, a unlawful divorce will not be effected... Therefore, if a man pronounced three divorcesat once by stating to the wife: “I divorce you three times” or by saying: “I divorce you”, three times, then three divorces will be effected and the divorce will be irrevocable. The woman will be free to re-marry another man after the termination of her Iddah. She can not return to her former husband’s marriage unless she is divorced once again from her second husband. This is the position held by all the Sunni schools of Islamic law, i.e, Hanafi, Shafi’i, Malikiand the Hanbali. This was also the view of the overwhelming majority of Sahaba (Allah be pleased with them) and Tabi’in (followers). Only the Ja’fariyya sect amongst the Shi’a and those who followed the literal meaning of the texts, like Imam Ibn Taymiyya and his student Ibn al-Qayyim differed with this view. There view, however, was not accepted by the majority of the Ummah (See Ibn Qudama in al-Mugni , V:7, P:104). Some of the evidences declaring the three divorces to be in effect: 1) Allah Almighty says in the Qur’an: “Divorce is (only permissible) twice, thereafter either retaining her honorably or releasing her kindly...If he divorces her (the third time), she will not be lawful for him unless she marries another husband (and he also divorces her)” (Surah al-Baqarah, V:229/230). 2) Sayyidatuna Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) reports that: A man pronounced three divorces to his wife. She (after her Iddah) married another man. The Messenger of Allah was asked if it was lawful for her to return to the first husband. He said: “ Not until they havesexual intercourse” (Recorded by Imam al-Bukhari in his Sahih) It is clear from the above Hadith that three divorces at once will be effected. The woman was allowed to marry another man. The Prophet of Allah (Allah bless him and give him peace) would have surely pointed out, had three divorces did not come into effect at once. http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=170&CATE=11 So you see, it's something you guys have to sort within yourselves. 3)Divorced women to observe an interim period: No you're wrong, and even contradictory. Verses [2:226-227]Those who intend to divorce their wives shall wait four months; this one is saying four months while 65:4-5]As for the women who have reached menopause, if you have any doubts, their interim shall be three months. Which is it? Four months or three months? Now back at what you accuse 'islamophobes' of, this idea is supported by many scholars. It's even obvious in the quran. Qur’an 65:4 If you are in doubt concerning those of your wives who have ceased menstruating, know that their waiting period shall be three months. The same shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated. As for pregnant women, their term shall end with their confinement. God will ease the hardship of the man who fears him. So you see the verse has already addressed pregnant women. Since Muslim men are to wait 3 months before divorcing a prepubescent child it means that they have been engaging in sex with those children. Here is ibn kathir's explanation for the verse; Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. ﴿see 2:228﴾ The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause. This is the meaning of His saying; ﴿وَاللَّـتِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ﴾ (and for those who have no courses...) as for His saying; ﴿إِنِ ارْتَبْتُمْ﴾ http://www.islamicstudies.info/ibnkathir/ibnkathir.php?sid=65&tid=54196 Here another by Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an - The Meaning of the Qur'an 13 They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge atall throughout life which, though rare, may alsobe the case. In any case, the waiting-period of such a woman is the same as of the woman, who has stopped menstruation, that is three months from the time divorce was pronounced. Here, one should bear in mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Qur'an the question of the waiting period arisesin respect of the women with whom marriage may have been consummated, for there is no waiting-period in case divorce is pronounced before the consummation of marriage. (Al-Ahzab: 49). Therefore, making mention of the waiting-period for the girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl in marriage at this age but it is also permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Qur'an has held as permissible. http://www.englishtafsir.com/Quran/65/index.html Again know where to point your accusing fingers. 6)Divorced women have to be provided for: Great, no doubt this law has been abuse or well depending on how you see it. Apparently in the irrevocable divorce you don't owe her a thing. "The Irrevocably Divorced Woman does not have a Right to Provisions and Accommodations from the Husband" (Spending and housing are required from the husband for his divorced wife if he can return to her. If she is not permitted for him anymore,until she marries another husband, then he does not have to provide her with spending and housing.)'' http://www.islamicstudies.info/ibnkathir/ibnkathir.php?sid=65&tid=54140
This is where those that utter divorce thrice comes in and why make the woman marry another before they can get back? 11)Under what conditions can a woman divorce her husband? 2:237 couldn't possibly be referring to both man and woman or do women pay dowry? But take a careful look at what the verse says again. [2:237]If you divorce them before touching them, but after you had set the dowry for them, the compensation shall be half the dowry, unless they voluntarily forfeit their rights, or the party responsible for causing the divorce chooses to forfeit the dowry. To forfeit is closer to righteousness. You shall maintain the amicable relations among you. GOD is Seer of everything you do. Isn't this khole? Khole is when women agree to forgo alimony and to repay their husbands any dowry in exchange of having the right to divorce. It is supported by this hadith: abudawud12.2220 . Is that fair? This is a great tool in the hand of a man who wants to get rid of his wife and not pay her alimony and get back the dowry. All he has to do is to make her life miserable until she takes her freedom and forgoes her rights. This happens everyday where Sharia is practiced. I do not see any justice in this. Again we still have the case of a man uttering divorce thrice which is even Permissible by sharia as i earlier pointed out This is the position held by all the Sunni schools of Islamic law, i.e, Hanafi, Shafi’i, Maliki and the Hanbali. END REMARK: Mr. Sain_Paris, as you can clearly see, the laws regarding divorce in the quran aren't weird at all- the laws serves to discourage divorce as well as cater to the woman in the event that divorce ensues. The problem stems from your interpretation of the quran. I did not address your case of HADITH simply because i do not believe in them. Please endeavor to be a little patient when you are researching anything; otherwise, you may unwittingly be causing damage to another person's faith due misinformation. The Quran is truly easy to understand, the explanation of the quran is by the quran itself- because God is the teacher of the Quran(55:1-2). Those who do not allow themselves to be brainwashed; who do not give up their leeway to personal sovereignty and have pure hearts will grasp the message(56:79). Now this is quite something. You don't believe in hadiths at all? All of them? So what do you know about your Prophet's life or that he even existed? Or do you choose and pick which to believe? Anyways that's your own, when i was about write this i didn't have you or Quran only muslims in mind. Majority of Muslims do live by both tradition (hadiths) and ofcourse the Quran. Am not trying to damage anyone's faith as you can most of replies to you come from Islamic sources, it's you who have neglected your duty, so i guess you know where to point fingers at. Have you tried to address this very issue before? What of that of polygamy? When will that someday come? For how long will you look and watch your God's words abused and misinterpreted? The ball is in your court. Good luck Shalom ♥ |
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