musawisdom: do you know that half unclothedness is part of their means of worship. why would they like to see you dressing morally and descently.

Dan_de_Numeruno:
This topic is for everyone

BetaThings:
Christians need the prop of daily savaging Islam to validate their religion
They go to every nook and cranny of this world to bring out outliers with which to attack Islam
They ignore what is done by mainstream Islam - the majority. In India, Muslims number more than 150m, but Islam is not judged by that
Why? It does not promote the agenda of Christians

Let them take up a simple challenge: Who have brought more hardship, killings and misery to this world between Muslims and Christian
I DARE them to take up that challenge

maasoap: You can't defeat Jihad. What is Jihad? Fight against injustice, oppression, indiscipline, e.t.c. Not Boko Haram senseless and indiscriminate killings.

Baba-Ibrahim:
Sam milla's submission is a foolish one. If you have the opportunity to grow up in a military or paramilitary setting you will not speak foolishly like that. Has any investigation found this officers wanting?

seyibrown:

What did Jesus mean when he told the Scribes and Pharisees 'Before Abraham was, I am'?

smemud: All muslims haters can die.Proud to be a muslim...jesus is ur saviour not my saviour....jesus cant even save himself 4rm the pain of the cross...And u think he can save u..pls wake up my xtain friend..Thank Allah i am muslim.

Back @ topic, why is it anybody's business on who visits the country and who doesn't? Was it not the same country David visited selling huge weapons to? No, they won't protest that, just like they won't protest Assad killing of more than 40,000 muslims including women, children and counting but will not let the world rest if Israel defends herself from rocket launching hamas. Ídiots. By the way, google survey have shown that pornogràphy is watched more in majority muslim countries, go figure!. Bunch retardéd hypocrites.

Sweetnecta: ^^^ Saint Paris and others: Islam is my religion. It is what my fore fathers practiced. My grand father. His father. And maybe even more fore fathers than what i listed.

We have christians in my family, including my own siblings.


I am muslim and Islam is me. I am a nigerian. a yoruba. a man.

Why are you people tagging Islam with what some segments from it did, especially when it is not what islam teaches?
Can you show me where it says muslims can kill anyone in their places or Queen Isabella and king Fernando did in Spain?
Have you read me say all christians are guilty of the crusades from Europe that killed so many muslims? Have you heard me say all christians are responsible for the "CRUSADE" of King George Bush?


Are all christians responsile for the colonization, oppressions of muslims communities in the years of colonization?


Is the muslim blaming the ills of any christian on Christianity?


My religion is pure and i am at peace in it. In fact, we can not blame the Hausa/Fulani for the ills of a few of them. If there is a single hausa/fulani muslim who is against Boko Haram or not part of them, we must know that the Boko Haramites are to be blamed, not Islam or innocent muslims.


I feel sad that man does evil to another man. May God soften our hearts and not make it hard like the heart of Pharaoh of Prophet Moses [as]. Amin.


From God we came. To Him is our return. May God strengthen the people who lost their loved ones to be able to deal with the tragedy. Amin.

seanet01: There is going to be the bloodiest of Repercussion on the Whole Northern Leaders who are brainwashing this animals with religion. This is not Islam, This is not Islam.
Oh Allah, the most merciful, the most gracious, the most benevolent i pray that thy unleash your greatest anger on the perpetrators of this terrorist acts. Let thunder strike them dead in the slightest of times.

usisky:


PEACE to all.

pardon me Mr. Saint_paris, but i think you have made caricature of the Quranic law concerning divorce. If you really did study the quran yourself(not copy-paste from anti-Islam sites) you would realize the law as stated in the quran is actually to serve as a deterrent to those who are considering divorce. Unfortunately, what you have said concerning a man uttering "divorce" thrice to terminate his union with the spouse is what the reality is for the followers of the "SUNNI RELIGION". They objectify their women, treat them like piece of garbage and have no regard whatsoever for them.

The "SHI'A RELIGION" also have their share of absurd teachings- like temporary marriage(which they deceptively
twist the meaning of the quranic word) which is nothing short of prost.itution.

Suffice it to say, none of what they advocate in their religion have any basis in the quran. example:

1)Polygamy- The quran never says marry four wives; it says marry the[b]mothers of orphaned[/b] children(up to 4 mothers of orphans- with strong conditions that even renders it impossible to take in another wife); it didn't say go and marry young women to satisfy your carnal needs.The intent is clear; to provide fatherly figure to the child. Neither did the quran say marry off juvenile female children. The essence is to alleviate sorrow and not to create it as we see with our dear "muslims" today. Someday, i will deal with this decisively- God willing.

2)Divorce- a man cannot divorce his wife by merely saying "talak"(divorce) thrice, this is satanic and un-quranic. The divorce described in the quran serves to protect the woman's interest and not vice versa.

Let me elucidate to you the beautiful quranic laws concerning divorce which you fail to appreciate the wisdom therein.

First off, God never shies from telling us the reality as is; divorces do happen, and more often than not- this is caused by irreconcilable differences between the couple. So you see, we submitters(Muslims) are grateful to God for giving us a complete and perfect scripture detailing(guidelines to) all we need to manage our affairs.....Masha'allah(Glory be to God)!!

Like i have mentioned earlier, reading the qruan, we see that God does not support divorce; in fact, encourages the continuation of marriage. Divorce must be resorted only in exceptional circumstances.

DIVORCE FROM QUR'AN

1)APPOINT AN ARBITRATOR :

[4:35]If a couple fears separation, you shall appoint an arbitrator from his family and an arbitrator from her family; if they decide to reconcile, GOD will help them get together. GOD is Omniscient, Cognizant.

This is the very first step that must be undertaken by a couple considering divorce. A couple may likely make decisions out of impulsive rage or naivete in which they most times regret their actions when they become sober. The idea of appointing arbitrators is to provide counseling to the feuding couple and if possible reconcile them. But if the two still insist on going ahead with their decision, the arbitrators ensure that the parties separate amicably in the manner designed by GOD. This also relegates the idea that a man can divorce a wife by simply uttering "talak" thrice.

3)Divorced women to observe an interim period:

[2:228]The divorced women shall wait three menstruation (before marrying another man). It is not lawful for them to conceal what GOD creates in their wombs, if they believe in GOD and the Last Day. (In case of pregnancy,) the husband's wishes shall supersede the wife's wishes, if he wants to remarry her. The women have rights, as well as obligations, equitably. Thus, the man's wishes prevail (in case of pregnancy). GOD is Almighty, Most Wise.

[65:4-5]As for the women who have reached menopause, if you have any doubts, their interim shall be three months. As for those who do not menstruate, and discover that they are pregnant, their interim ends upon giving birth. Anyone who reverences GOD, He makes everything easy for him. This is GOD's command that He sends down to you. Anyone who reverences GOD, He remits his sins, and rewards him generously.


From 2:228, we see that a divorced woman observes an interim of three menstruation before she thinks of marrying another man. This ensures that she is not pregnant at the time of divorce; therefore, the identity of the child a woman is carrying is preserved(in case she is pregnant). Also, the verse tells the woman to take back the man if he wishes to reconcile with her; if not for anything else, at least for the sake of her unborn child.

Same message is repeated in 65:4-5, this time it also addresses women who no longer menstruate. The verse also finalizes the case of a woman who is pregnant at the time of divorce mentioned in 2:228. It tells us their interim expires when they have given birth, in case the husband does not opt for reconciliation. Put succinctly, a divorced woman must observe three menstruation interim, if found pregnant- interim expires upon birth of the child. However, if she has reached menopausal age, her interim is still three months just to be sure. This shows how the quran explain itself when read from cover to cover(73:4).

NOTE: the sentence "as for those who do not menstruate" mentioned in 65:4 have been traditionally misconstrued by islamophobes to mean under-aged girls just to ridicule Islam; however, this is blatantly wrong, it refers to pregnant women as already stated in 2:228.

6)Divorced women have to be provided for:

This is probably one of the abused laws in the Quran. But God holds us responsible for our innermost thoughts. If one observes God’s laws then God makes it easy for him / her.


[65:7]The rich husband shall provide support in accordance with his means, and the poor shall provide according to the means that GOD bestowed upon him. GOD does not impose on any soul more than He has given it. GOD will provide ease after difficulty.

9)Divorce can be retracted twice:

In other words, if the couple reconciles after the first divorce and wish to be husband and wife again, they can re-marry. This is allowed for two divorce only. If the couple divorces third time they have to observe God's commandment in 2:230 (quoted below.) God makes it not-so-easy for the couple to divorce. This law serves as a deterrent for those who want a divorce for the third time and they would be very careful to take this step; a man who truly loves his wife will have to think deeply before divorcing her the third time knowing fully well the condition he is encumbered by(her marrying another man who may never divorce her; also consider the interim she must go through).

[2:229]Divorce may be retracted twice. The divorced woman shall be allowed to live in the same home amicably, or leave it amicably. It is not lawful for the husband to take back anything he had given her. However, the couple may fear that they may transgress GOD's law. If there is fear that they may transgress GOD's law, they commit no error if the wife willingly gives back whatever she chooses. These are GOD's laws; do not transgress them. Those who transgress GOD's laws are the unjust.

[2:232]If you divorce the women, once they fulfill their interim, do not prevent them from remarrying their husbands, if they reconcile amicably. This shall be heeded by those among you who believe in GOD and the Last Day. This is purer for you, and more righteous. GOD knows, while you do not know.

[2:230]If he divorces her (for the third time), it is unlawful for him to remarry her, unless she marries another man, then he divorces her. The first husband can then remarry her, so long as they observe GOD's laws. These are GOD's laws; He explains them for people who know.

11)Under what conditions can a woman divorce her husband?

Whichever party chooses for divorce must obey the laws as aforesaid. Normally divorce is mutually decided by the couple. If the aforesaid laws are observed, there could be a situation where either of the spouse may not give their consent but if the arbitrators from both the families decide that divorce is the best solution for the estranged couple then they would, nevertheless go through divorce. The divorce laws are applicable to both man and woman (4:35 and 2:237 indicate this) except that there are certain additional laws which a divorced woman has to observe.

END REMARK: Mr. Sain_Paris, as you can clearly see, the laws regarding divorce in the quran aren't weird at all- the laws serves to discourage divorce as well as cater to the woman in the event that divorce ensues. The problem stems from your interpretation of the quran. I did not address your case of HADITH simply because i do not believe in them. Please endeavor to be a little patient when you are researching anything; otherwise, you may unwittingly be causing damage to another person's faith due misinformation. The Quran is truly easy to understand, the explanation of the quran is by the quran itself- because God is the teacher of the Quran(55:1-2). Those who do not allow themselves to be brainwashed; who do not give up their leeway to personal sovereignty and have pure hearts will grasp the message(56:79).


PEACE , and may God guide us all!!