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somehow: I am also thinking along your line o.... if I have evidences against someone... best thing to do is to arrest him first and charge him to court.. once he is convicted... there won't be need for all these post... Eyes will clear... and he himself won't try to come back to the platform.. N3xt... PLEASE IGNORE ALL THERE IRRELEVANT ACCUSATION... Stay focus... Until you are proven guilty... I stand with you in this .. Even though we had our own argument earlier ( Use of hammerglass)... I accept proffessional argument but not blackmail... 2 Likes 1 Share |
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n3xt: @n3xt... I just want you to know we the proffessionals will always tell you the truth.. We have different view doesn't mean we should force our recommendations on another... The ethics of the proffession is very clear... respect your other proffessional's view, either genuine or ingenuine to you... You don't need to keep explaining yourself over and over again... just be firm.. This industry is big enough for us all to fly without touching each other. As a Federal civil servant supervising billion naira projects not even related to properties.. sharing here won't make sense..cos this is property section.. But as proffessionals, if we see statement here that isn't generally true and misleading, we make our observations known without need for anyone to agree on not. @ N3xt, I am inviting you to Abuja soon on a housing project base on your Marketing skills... I vast experience as baba Lati No 1 will be needed.. I like the fact that you are flexible and not rigid like other proffessionals. Stay blessed... N3xt 5 Likes 1 Share |
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n3xt: No vex o, but how do you have time to do all these? 3 Likes |
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n3xt: Thanks for going back and I appreciate your effort. At the bold, I only asked if u can share the picture or address. That was a question, I never asked you to send me the pictures or address. Thanks and by the way can you recommend me 3 architect here? (I no dey play) 2 Likes |
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@nero2424 Since you won’t dig, let me help you here. I pray you have time to go through though. Here’s the chronology of event: I shared a post on climate consultant. https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2053#99923263 A COREN certified structural consultant brought up issues of all glass building not good for Nigeria ![]() https://www.nairaland.com/post/99924104 I gave an example of an all glass commercial building in Ibadan that’s almost 3 decades old https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2053#99925346 The NSE certified guru established we need glass building in area that’s not prone to security breach. https://www.nairaland.com/post/99949120 I shared info about hammerglass as a solution for those who want to explore. https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2054#99949313 I shared info about other security glass designs. https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2054#99950039 MNSE guru asked if glass shops where cement are sold can be built in Ikorodu round about.... ![]() ![]() I shared picture of an old shop that was converted into a modern shop with glass facade. NERO2424 asked if I’ve visited the old shops to know if break in happened. I told him the shops are on the road I drive daily ![]() ![]() Now you’re looking for the address of the house in the ghetto that’s all glass.... And so on...! 1 Like 2 Shares |
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n3xt: @Next... WHY ARE YOU DISGRACING YOURSELF.. Mantrap Security Door is a typical Name for a type of door made up of many materials like CFRP (Carbon fibre reinforced Polymer as the frame and hammerglass as the transparent solid). hammerglass , tappered glass, laminated tappered glass.. are types of glasses... Bros.. check your B.P. I am not one of those clients... Professional will always tell you the truth... I can educate you fully on ENGINEERING MATERIALS.. 1 Like |
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micgray100: Show me where I said a glass shop will be built sir. Just share the screenshot. I don’t know why you chose to pick on me for no reason. Is this how professionals work? Or you have issues with comprehension sir? ![]() ![]() That’s how you’re calling mantrap security doors used in banks hammerglass. I just decided to move on because it clearly show you have no idea what hammerglass is and what its made of and you chose not to research before coming online to prove what’s not. I’m surprised you didn’t write MNSE now ![]() _____ The glass building you’re seeing up there is ongoing in Sagamu not even Ikorodu and it’ll be built and nothing is gonna happen to it. In another news, advanced baba lati just got another minimalist building certified by Lagos state. Guess what, there’s a wall-to-Wall 6m multi-fold glass door in the build. Na play mode I dey o ![]() ![]() ![]() 4 Likes |
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hamtabfawaz: @ hamtabfawaz The price of hammerglass won't allow a retail cement seller even think of building such in IKORODU road about.. the price of the hammerglass that will surround the shop is more than the cement stored inside.. Note.. hammerglass are types of glass used at most entry of banks that rolls out.. The second issue of Proffessionals should also be a good marketer... You know better bro... Proffessionals won't compromise with client to loose their proffessional licence.. proffessional will always tell client the number of stories a foundation can carry.. But the trained marketer would even add more stories to such structure to maximise profit.. just an example.. The general truth is that... Real professionals decline to do small projects like Residential houses because of competition with them baba Latis... they involve themselves with big projects where them baba Latis won't even think to go near... In conclusion.. I am a trained Proffessional with my B.Eng and Msc in civil engineering and structural engineering respectively.. I am NSE and Coren Certified. I am a Federal Civil Servant in one of the KEY ministries in Nigeria.. I do side hustle too online.. like company formation, general goods movement North-South axis... With the above Vast experience as a proffessional, My ascertion is that.. Minimalistic building Design Should not be encourage in Nigeria for now as a developing nation.. @ Next... I appreciate your understanding... you are a contractor... I will prefer you maintain running your market in the building industries.. if minimal design is giving to you to construct.. it is your luck... 2 Likes |
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micgray100: Okay I get you. Most homes will do normal rendering still. |
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EgunMogaji2: Egun.. i saw what he wrote, which i said i am happy about.. he brought out the issue of hammerglass.. which he mention is used in CRITICAL AREAS... AND NOT REDENRING.... Because of high cost.. My problem with Oga next... is ... why specify such for rendering in Nigeria ... when even western word used normal tappered glasses.. I REST MY CASE ON THIS ISSUE.... OGA NEXT.... let us continue our class on new contemporary designs.. we learning .... you know i am your number 1 serious student that love to ask questions... i bring in the old Structural Engineers Perspectives to class.... we learn everyday.. the funny thing here is that ... i know some of my lecturers in school during my MSC structures days prefer to do things in the old ways... they want you to know the basics...like use your hands to draw out structural drawings that will take days when computer softwares can produce same in seconds.. Adaptation is key... but let us adopt the ones suitable for us as Nigerians taking all that is happening to us currently.. 3 Likes |
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micgray100: This is why design matters. Even when we do regular builds, burglar protectors are not compulsory on the upper floor.s. You don’t have to do all walls or all windows with expensive glass. You just need to take care of the areas that are highly prone to security breach. To be honest there are too many solutions out there to explore. I designed a build that was recently demolished by the LASG (built on govt land). Guess what! The windows were intact despite being subjected to extremely harsh conditions. In this industry, you need to understand materials and the abundant alternatives out there.
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micgray100: Haba, he wrote this nau “I’d do it in critical areas though cos of the high price tag.” We discussed this many moons ago on this thread. 2 Likes |
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n3xt: Thank God you just specified hammer glass.. i am happy you agreed how costly hammerglass is. to the lay man, hammerglass are those glasses you see at entrances of banks that is hard to penetrate by robbers ... OGA NEXT.... so you expect a full house to be covered with hammerglass when even as rich as banks are, designate it only at entry point... this issue was well explained by HAJJ M and OGA SPIDDER880.... Some specified proposed hammer glass to be used on the windows which ended up not used because of cost on just windows... now you want hammer glass to be used as rendering... bros... safety and cost are very important in architectural/Engineering design... the truth is there to see.. The pic below glass are normal glasses not hammerglass 1 Like
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micgray100: There’s hammerglass by De-Twilson. You don’t need metal burglary when you have it installed in your building. I’d do it in critical areas though cos of the high price tag. There are so many other effective solutions from 3M, Clearguard from Trellidors and the likes. ______ I can show you where shots were fired into the Broking House Ibadan in the 90s by the daredevil robbers (the glass didn’t break). These are not the regular aluminum village 10mm toughened glass o ![]() That’s where we grew up and we understand there are many solutions (sustainable materials) out there for those who wish to explore. Experience has shaped us. This type of discussion aren’t new to the regulars here as we’ve discussed it in details and even worked across border with companies providing those solutions. 1 Like |
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BrabusNG: Yes it’s ONLY GOD that can protect us but then let’s things outside the box if Incase of stray bullet or accidental discharge the door can still be of help. Not only about thief this time around. But in all why bulletproof door Why burglar bars Why gbetugbetu, akaraba, otumopo Most advance countries usually do without all these in most cases, I stand to be corrected. May God help underdeveloped country 2 Likes |
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BrabusNG:Simple! Even local village burglars no longer check if your door can be breached or not, they just knock down your wall and do their thing |
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BrabusNG:you need to know that if criminals knock on your door, they are very much prepared for it. Na you go still use your hand open the doors and beg them to spare your life. That's how funny the whole thing is. 5 Likes |
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rotecch77: To a large extent, I think I’ve explored and used a lot of these materials. I even went as far as talking to hammerglass in Sweden for fortified glass but what I’ve found out is that all these solutions are not a guarantee against burglary. They can only serve as deterrent. An armoured door without a BinLaden fortified building is just as good as having a normal door. When armed robbers attacked one of the new generation banks, they break-in through the wall and not the doors. God is the surest protection. 2 Likes |
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n3xt: EBM 1st choice, EBM 2nd choice, anodized aluminum 3rd choice. I'm waiting for one more quote from one Mr. Pini Anitov at EBM Nigeria before I send my architect to meet them in person. No room for error on this one. 1 Like |
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erico2k2: You're truly not following this class. The link I shared has everything and comments about hammerglass, including their addresses, estimates and everything else you may need to know. Go through the link. You'll find the details there. I only shared the link so as not to derail ongoing discussion. https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=hammerglass&search=Search |
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n3xt:That don't take me nowhere near their website, do you know thier website and waht country they are based? |
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erico2k2: They're manufacturer of unbreakable glasses. Check this link (https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=hammerglass&search=Search) for more. We've had a lot of discussion on them on this forum. |
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n3xt:who are they? @ hammerglass |
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erico2k2: That's why we visited hammerglass offering the most secure glass security in the whole universe. Trust me, I'm gonna play with 3M Window Film pretty soon in one of my builds. 1 Like |
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brabus: what is alternative ? This is different ways of achieving the same end goals. when talk about alternative, we are looking at ways to improve on the appearance, durability and cost of building materials. i know these alternatives already exist and you dont need to invent anything to something new but you will have to show to us what you have done using non conventional method, you have to show us how the cost compare to what we already have . Skimaski is one of the best architect on nairaland, we have seen his revolutionary designs, his approaches and ways he handles his construction. we take note and learn from him. Spyder is one of the best builder on nairaland, we have seen his approach, we take note and learn from him as well. Aventure is a respectable civil/structure engineer, I do visit is thread to learn about new structural engineering construction, we know how they work which is respectable.... I want to see these your new ideas in new construction, i want to see how you put these element together to create something unique different from every other structures around, i want to see the cost variation, how economical. we can also learn from that 6 Likes |
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abdulwastecx: Now I understand. Anyway, I'm not here to discuss Brabus idea but alternative building solutions for those who wants more than conventional solutions. Been an innovator, I'm never ashamed of stealing good ideas when I come across one. When i was talking to Wickes, I only talked to them about my space and what I want to achieve based on clients budget. I do not have to tell them whose idea it is to get the job done. When I was talking to hammerglass, I told them what I wanted to achieve and gave them the dimensions and my window schedule. I didn't do more than that. When I was dealing with Pendini, I just had to show them what my client ordered and ask them to give me a solution. So if I need WPC, it doesn't have to be my idea (let all my prospective client hear this) but getting the right man or the right company to do the job perfectly. 3 Likes
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FastShipping: There's strength in collective bargaining. Let me speak with my client who's also in touch with Finland to see if you guys can work things out with them. |
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brabus: I don't really like this 3M for the fact that it cracks easily. I will continue to talk to the guy in Finland. hammerglass doesn't cost much at $13,000+ but the shipping quote of $6,000 from Finland to Lagos and clearing cost is what is giving me a pause. I just want to avoid using burglary proof. |
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FastShipping: Send me to Finland now. You're the 3rd person who won't mind using it. The Atlantic View project owner is madly in love with it and dangling 2m on specific areas in the building. The rep here (in naija) is kinda lazy and not sharp but if you don't mind, I can forward you his details. I just believe you'll do better speaking directly with the guys abroad. |
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brabus: Is hammerglass now available in Lagos? I don't mind spending 2M using it. |
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FastShipping: Not sure but I'm sure of hammerglass by Det-Wilson The thing cost like no man's business. Already working on alternatives. 1 Like |
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EgunMogaji: Not confusing at all! You can actually channel the waste water outside your property if you'd choose not to recycle. That way you won't require another septic tank but a drain field. The endemic bacteria feeds on the waste and they have the capability to reproduce themselves when there's too much to eat and when there's too little. I'm yet to complete my research on this. But there's one very close to me which is currently been understudied. You don't really need something that large for residential project. I'm visiting a ministry in Alausa to see how they did their installation. The picture shown to me didn't show a very large system. Big Question: But why are all the good innovations coming from Ghana to Nigeria? I'm presently researching hammerglass (I want to bid conventional burglar proof goodbye in my all glass residential projects) and the coy I was talking to in Sweden referred me to a company in Ghana which in turn referred me to a shop in Lagos. The same thing for Biofil Toilet Digester which is a Ghanaian company. They only have less informed marketers here in Nigeria. Are we truly the giant of Africa? Abi Na paper giant. Pics: 1. Biofil Toilet Digester setup in Ajah, Lagos. 2. Inside the system 3. Waste water channeled out of the compound into the drainage
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