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Politics / Re: Edo Gov-Elect, Okpebholo Makes First Appointment by IfnobeGod20: 8:35am On Nov 13
senatordave1:


What exactly is your problem? You just write without bowing to superior opinions nor taking corrections. You claim not to argue blindly but still indulge in it... The news medium you quoted the extract from are the ones projecting their views not the judges. I thought you will post the extract if the judgment written directly by the judges... It was only the the final paragraph that you quoted from Justice Agim... Besides there said there was evidence of compliance which means it could be partial not full as the lower courts discovered.....
The fact of the matter is that the supreme court as a pre election court dismissed the matter without ruling thereby the appeal court ruling against pdp was live. The apex court as an election court had no jurisdiction to delve into that matter. They only had to enforce that decision.....

Concerning obi matter,you still have a long way to go. You are emotional and easily swayed. You will make a very bad listener and judge. how can you just take the words of a petitioner as true without looking at the law or investigating? So because obi complained of manipulations in 21 states,it means it is true? You said the judge gave reasons for dismissing the case yet you still blindly insisted that there was manipulations? Obi submitted irev copies without comparing with inec original copies or his agents copies. He failed to call any agent to testify. The supreme court already settled the irev status in Osun polls. Obi never gave any unit by unit clear cut account or tabulation of any manipulation. He called less than 30 witnesses who where mostly not at the units...
Based on what me and you saw in the media, rigging was mainly in Rivers and Benue to a small extent. I have asked you before to show me full proof evidences and particulars of rigging and manipulations in other states in several units not a handful,you failed. Yet you still assume there is rigging based on social media talk and speculations. In law sir, allegations are not evidences. You cannot just speculate or assert. You must show clear proofs...

You claimed 2023 was the worst ever after 2007, imagine. Obi major complaint in 2023 poll was transmission. He was ok with other aspects. In 2015, the rigging started from accreditation till final collation. You even forgot the infamous underage voters. Smart card readers failed in several areas of Nigeria and we resorted to manual accreditation. In 2023, bvas was heavily used. The main issues was pocket of intimidation in Lagos and kogi and vote buying. Obidients calculated irev results and tinubu still won. What is your problem? The insane figures we saw in the north and SS in 2015 where eliminated. how can you use failure of transmission to disqualify an entire election? You are unbelievable.. was there any inec portal in which you saw results in 2015?

Why don't you read very well before responding? I told you severally that the supreme court is a court of public policy meaning there must rule according to where the public stands to benefit. They are not just a legal institution but of policy. They have the final powers of interpretation not translation. Interpretation means explaining the law and they can explain it however they feel is best suited for the country. We have several rules and types of interpretations. Don't mistake it for translation. You can consult the interpretation act. Obi and atiku at first supported the cbn policy but quickly changed stance.why? Because a generality of Nigerians were against it. Only an alien or a non Nigerian will support such an ill-timed policy.it seems you forgot so quickly how the masses suffered because your obi lost. Nigerians went through pains to get cash from either banks or POS. Getting cash was hellish. Transfer was even an issue. People struggled to get cash from filling stations,churches etc... let us even go to the threads from last year and see people's reactions. This lie alone has shown that you are a biased fellow that is not capable of objectivity.

Talking about errors,there will always be errors as far as humanity is involved. Is Nigeria a developed nation that will now go cashless? Is that how other countries go cashless? a lot of areas in Nigeria do not even have strong Internet connection or banking facilities and you want to go cashless? how oga? The policy is not bad but badly executed and timed. In executing such policies,you give at least 6 months notice while you gradually mop up cash in the system and provide adequate internet penetration and banking facilities. This is common sense. Imagine you saying only APC supporters are against it... Oga,since 2007, errors in our elections are reducing. The goal is to minimize errors to the minimum not end it which is impossible anyway. I believe you saw how perfect USA election recently was...
The cbn is still gradually pushing towards a cashless policy as most banks have a weekly withdrawal limit from ATM. Most banks don't even pay above 50k over the counter. It is only in POS that do above that except for company accounts. It is a gradual thing,we are getting there...you don't achieve such by fire brigade or gungho approach. Look at how telecoms firms have made Nigerians to register for their SIMS. Look at how bvn registration was achieved. What of identity cards...


Finally on Edo, is there any election that the observers don't find complaints? 2020 was without scrutiny because people were happy APC lost but if you look deep, you will see a lot of errors. Irev upload was still ongoing till midnight but in this year polls,upload was done in record time. Yiaga is the biggest observer locally and their report is satisfactory. They said they detected inconsistencies in results of just three lgas and if we use the results pdp claimed from those lgas, the outcome is still the same. Action aid clearly said they were never part of the elections so they have no say...
You claimed I only follow what APC dishes out to me.that is arrant nonsense. I am the best analyst here because I look at all the different views and reach a conclusion unlike you that only looks at anti APC views. You lost your credibility when you lied that only APC supporters where against the cbn policy. If you followed the election that day with an open mind,you would have noticed that APC won most units just like in 2020 where pdp won and you won't be blabbing childishly.if you had followed what pdp released and their complaints and compared it to what inec and APC release, you will know the true winner. If you had followed the campaigns well, you would expect the loser to be bitter and raised serious dusts. If pdp had won , no one will be complaining though same errors abound. Imo,kogi and bayelsa recorded worst errors yet you are blabbing about Edo.
In this your comment unlike the others, it looks incoherent and full of flip flopping as no single detail but only emotional to my reply.
I looked for your superior argument and I cannot pin point to one.
On the issue of the supreme court judgement on Plateau state gubernatorial election. If you had opened the link you would have noticed that the extract I quoted was quote and unquoted but as usual you cleverly feigned ignorance of common quotable quote in English structure. My brother, the extract is exact quote from the justice Emmanuel the lead justice on the case.
One thing I noticed about you is you always think you're on top of issue, hence, any contrary opinion to heal you always fall to your deaf ear.
If truly you've been following recent judgements from the Court of Appeal to Supreme court on any many cases that pertaining to elections. After striking out any prayer for want of evidence, they still go extra miles to address the substantive suit for record purpose. That is the common practice now. Let me give you one example. After striking out the prayer of LP on Tinubu on him engaging in narcotic drug. The judge stroke it out but still went to say by law the case is over 15 years and cannot be counted against the defender.
I will advise you to be cooling down and always learn everything should not be about adamant politics.

On the issue of naira design and cashless policy. Your claimed is we are not yet a developed nation and we are not ripe for it now because there is no network everywhere. You also claimed it affected everyone because there was no cash to do many things. Now, you can defend the impact of policy on the citizens on naira redesign and cashless policy but see good reason to defend Tinubu's policy on fuel subsidy and floating of naira that have dipped millions of Nigerians to poverty and starvation.
As you mean to say, we should wait for when Nigeria will be a developed nation before such policy can be implemented. Even as I posted a link where the present CBN are lurking to reintroduced the policy through the back door but as usual you dodged the news but still hold on to your gun of protecting the error of the past done by the same people in government today. Just I had said, e ma gbe koto ota mo ni won (dig gently enemy pit because it may be you that will fall into it). Now, Tinubu has fell to the same pit he dug and it becomes difficult to come straight to implement what he objected because of election.
No nation progress where their money are held inside their citizens homes and not in bank to help SMEs.
Well, I know Tinubu is a very stubborn person but let me see how he will come out to say he wants to implement the same policy he vigorously rejected because of election.

On Edo election. There is no way I will take you serious because you prefer to play politics than to appear real. If you can shout down someone that was at the field on the day of the election and claimed that since PDP won the local government, his complain of his polling unit result surchanged for APC is no effect to you, I don't expect less from you but to ferociously counter the obvious that is not open to you.
I am not moved by your diatribe against my pe
You know a very big problem you have, you're only fixated on the overall results announced and not what happened at the field that were technically and systematically manipulated before the final collation.
Now, look at it this way, you did agreed that Yiaga observation about the Edo election, that claimed three LGAs were heavily compromised but still push out narrative that nothing happened because to you three LGAs manipulation cannot affect the overall results and you think with your kind as leader, this country will ever progress democratically, as undermining of election is no big deal to you, so far it is your party that won.

In this, I don't blame you, I only blame the judiciary that are doing the bidding of politicians that always looked other way in many instances, as I am not particular about any party here but overall.
Politics / Re: Edo Gov-Elect, Okpebholo Makes First Appointment by senatordave1(m): 10:55pm On Nov 12
IfnobeGod20:

I don't always like arguing blindly. Below is an extract from the supreme court judgement on plateau state gubernatorial election. This is what the justice of the supreme court said about PDP truly complied with the PSHC ruling. He said, there is an evidence that shows that PDP complied with the order of the PSHC as you will read from the extract.

"But the Supreme Court justice said the order of the High Court had nothing to do with the party’s power to conduct a primary election, as it did to nominate Governor Mutfwang as its candidate for the governorship election.

The justice ruled that despite that, there is evidence showing that the order of the Plateau State High Court was complied with by the party.

“Can the tribunal and the Court of Appeal determine the validity of the nomination of a candidate? The justice asked.

The order of the High Court of Plateau State had nothing to do with power of the NEC of the PDP; it is a jurisdictional matter, the justice added.

“The legal profession should wake up,” Mr Agim said, indicating his worry about the shallowness of a trend of legal arguments raised by lawyers and get upheld by courts.

For the reasons given, the judge said, “this appeal is allowed.”
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/658319-supreme-court-affirms-plateau-governors-election-after-reversing-his-sack-by-appeal-court.html?tztc=1

Meanwhile, me and you have been arguing about this issue of manipulation and suppression of votes in the 2023 Presidential election for long, as you have been holding on to your gun as I do but forgotten that Obi petitions were on 21 states. The news is here.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/589557-presidential-election-peter-obi-disputes-inec-results-in-21-states-full-list.html&ved=2ahUKEwizzYGiyNeJAxXUR0EAHQlHN1wQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0a9xkuEGB5bD0kqdpHlzzB
Out of the 21, he included even three states he won. The states are Rivers, Lagos, Taraba, Benue, Adamawa, Imo, Bauchi, Borno, Kaduna, and Plateau states.

The rest are Ekiti, Oyo, Ondo, Taraba, Osun, Kano, Katsina, Kwara, Gombe, Yobe and Niger.

Obi claim was that the "poll was marred by various forms of corrupt practices, overvoting, votes suppression and non-compliance with the provision of the Electoral Act in various states". You will read all this in the link above.

The claims of the justice was that Obi didn't spell out the discrepancies and tabulate his score to show he won the election but only submitted the CTC in the court.
Aside the 2007 that was the worst election in Nigeria. The 2023 election came second in a roll. It was heavily manipulated as votes were manufactured, votes were suppressed and were technically rigged in connivance with the INEC staff and police and it was sanctioned by the judiciary.

The ruling on naira redesign was much illegal, as nothing concern CBN with monetary policy. It is sole duty of the CBN to determine that. The constitution empowers CBN to determine anything that has to do with monetary policy and not the court. They even went ahead to determine when the old notes will expired. Please which section of the CBN act or constitution empowers court to determine that?
Meanwhile, are you aware that Tinubu's government want to use back door to do the same policy that he vehemently rejected because of election.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://punchng.com/rep-faults-cbn-over-validity-of-old-new-naira-notes/&ved=2ahUKEwjnzt6VzteJAxW4VEEAHRi-KzAQFnoECBQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1DWRYxvdK9-HMggRoSl1ym
Instead of them to come straight, they want to go through the back door.
The CBN is now complaining that the volume of money in the bank is small and they are looking for well of mopping the money but it was too late for them, as they were myopic about the reasons adduced to by Buhari's government then. One of my oga would always say, e gbe koto ota mo ni won (dig gently your enemy pit), you may be the one that will fall into it. They have already fallen into the pit but using style.
Please how did you know that 95% were against Emefiele's policy? Those that are against the policy are Tinubu's supporters and those that doesn't see beyond their nose. In this jet age, some people still giving favour to moving cash about. No developed nation carry cash about again. They are into cashless policy but because of election, Tinubu and his gang killed the policy that should have helped the nation by now. Thankfully we are in it together today.

What do you expect to read as a supporter of APC? Whether good or bad so far your party won, the errors therein doesn't move you. It's just a replica of a footballer that his club won a match, the error of his players during play won't bug him, so far the match has been won.
Many observers for the Edo state gubernatorial election faulted the election but you only read what APC ditched out for you.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/09/edo-governorship-election-observers-release-damning-reports/&ved=2ahUKEwixp5uS0deJAxW0YEEAHYEsNlsQFnoECCMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2813Fl7RcoWlhrBsKAkAon
Open the link to read what many observers says about the election poll.

What exactly is your problem? You just write without bowing to superior opinions nor taking corrections. You claim not to argue blindly but still indulge in it... The news medium you quoted the extract from are the ones projecting their views not the judges. I thought you will post the extract if the judgment written directly by the judges... It was only the the final paragraph that you quoted from Justice Agim... Besides there said there was evidence of compliance which means it could be partial not full as the lower courts discovered.....
The fact of the matter is that the supreme court as a pre election court dismissed the matter without ruling thereby the appeal court ruling against pdp was live. The apex court as an election court had no jurisdiction to delve into that matter. They only had to enforce that decision.....

Concerning obi matter,you still have a long way to go. You are emotional and easily swayed. You will make a very bad listener and judge. how can you just take the words of a petitioner as true without looking at the law or investigating? So because obi complained of manipulations in 21 states,it means it is true? You said the judge gave reasons for dismissing the case yet you still blindly insisted that there was manipulations? Obi submitted irev copies without comparing with inec original copies or his agents copies. He failed to call any agent to testify. The supreme court already settled the irev status in Osun polls. Obi never gave any unit by unit clear cut account or tabulation of any manipulation. He called less than 30 witnesses who where mostly not at the units...
Based on what me and you saw in the media, rigging was mainly in Rivers and Benue to a small extent. I have asked you before to show me full proof evidences and particulars of rigging and manipulations in other states in several units not a handful,you failed. Yet you still assume there is rigging based on social media talk and speculations. In law sir, allegations are not evidences. You cannot just speculate or assert. You must show clear proofs...

You claimed 2023 was the worst ever after 2007, imagine. Obi major complaint in 2023 poll was transmission. He was ok with other aspects. In 2015, the rigging started from accreditation till final collation. You even forgot the infamous underage voters. Smart card readers failed in several areas of Nigeria and we resorted to manual accreditation. In 2023, bvas was heavily used. The main issues was pocket of intimidation in Lagos and kogi and vote buying. Obidients calculated irev results and tinubu still won. What is your problem? The insane figures we saw in the north and SS in 2015 where eliminated. how can you use failure of transmission to disqualify an entire election? You are unbelievable.. was there any inec portal in which you saw results in 2015?

Why don't you read very well before responding? I told you severally that the supreme court is a court of public policy meaning there must rule according to where the public stands to benefit. They are not just a legal institution but of policy. They have the final powers of interpretation not translation. Interpretation means explaining the law and they can explain it however they feel is best suited for the country. We have several rules and types of interpretations. Don't mistake it for translation. You can consult the interpretation act. Obi and atiku at first supported the cbn policy but quickly changed stance.why? Because a generality of Nigerians were against it. Only an alien or a non Nigerian will support such an ill-timed policy.it seems you forgot so quickly how the masses suffered because your obi lost. Nigerians went through pains to get cash from either banks or POS. Getting cash was hellish. Transfer was even an issue. People struggled to get cash from filling stations,churches etc... let us even go to the threads from last year and see people's reactions. This lie alone has shown that you are a biased fellow that is not capable of objectivity.

Talking about errors,there will always be errors as far as humanity is involved. Is Nigeria a developed nation that will now go cashless? Is that how other countries go cashless? a lot of areas in Nigeria do not even have strong Internet connection or banking facilities and you want to go cashless? how oga? The policy is not bad but badly executed and timed. In executing such policies,you give at least 6 months notice while you gradually mop up cash in the system and provide adequate internet penetration and banking facilities. This is common sense. Imagine you saying only APC supporters are against it... Oga,since 2007, errors in our elections are reducing. The goal is to minimize errors to the minimum not end it which is impossible anyway. I believe you saw how perfect USA election recently was...
The cbn is still gradually pushing towards a cashless policy as most banks have a weekly withdrawal limit from ATM. Most banks don't even pay above 50k over the counter. It is only in POS that do above that except for company accounts. It is a gradual thing,we are getting there...you don't achieve such by fire brigade or gungho approach. Look at how telecoms firms have made Nigerians to register for their SIMS. Look at how bvn registration was achieved. What of identity cards...


Finally on Edo, is there any election that the observers don't find complaints? 2020 was without scrutiny because people were happy APC lost but if you look deep, you will see a lot of errors. Irev upload was still ongoing till midnight but in this year polls,upload was done in record time. Yiaga is the biggest observer locally and their report is satisfactory. They said they detected inconsistencies in results of just three lgas and if we use the results pdp claimed from those lgas, the outcome is still the same. Action aid clearly said they were never part of the elections so they have no say...
You claimed I only follow what APC dishes out to me.that is arrant nonsense. I am the best analyst here because I look at all the different views and reach a conclusion unlike you that only looks at anti APC views. You lost your credibility when you lied that only APC supporters where against the cbn policy. If you followed the election that day with an open mind,you would have noticed that APC won most units just like in 2020 where pdp won and you won't be blabbing childishly.if you had followed what pdp released and their complaints and compared it to what inec and APC release, you will know the true winner. If you had followed the campaigns well, you would expect the loser to be bitter and raised serious dusts. If pdp had won , no one will be complaining though same errors abound. Imo,kogi and bayelsa recorded worst errors yet you are blabbing about Edo.
Religion / Don't Enlarge Your Penis, It's Skill & Effectiveness, Not Size - Pastor Adeyemi by fergie001: 9:55pm On Nov 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8podTJjpnM
Sam Adeyemi, the Senior Pastor of Daystar Christian Centre, has advised men against enlarging their manhood.

Pastor Adeyemi gave the advice during his Sunday sermon on leadership, which was posted on his church’s official YouTube page.

The anchor of the ‘Excellent Leadership’ programme, aired on Daystar Network Television and Word Network in the US, highlighted the pressure social media places on people to make regrettable decisions.

Expressing concerns over the increasing promotion of male enhancement products on social media, Pastor Adeyemi emphasised that the effectiveness of a man’s manhood matters far more than its length or size.

He urged men to focus on understanding their partners’ needs and nurturing healthy connections rather than worrying about physical attributes.

He said: “One of the significant pressures we have is body image problems. It’s terrible, this comparison of your body with mine. Setting standards on what the body should look like, you find out you fell short. It is so bad.

“I went to an all-boys secondary school. I still remember the day some of my classmates went somewhere, and by the time they came back, we had now found out what they had gone to do. They went with a ruler to measure their private parts and to compare. Nothing destroys self-image more than that. It is nonsense.”


Skill not size
The author of ‘Build Real Wealth: Practical Steps to Regain Financial Stability’ maintained that the physical size of manhood is less important than a man’s effectiveness and skill.

Additionally, he stated that a man who remains committed to one woman will not feel pressured to compare his manhood with others or seek ways to enlarge it.

“If you are a young guy, let me encourage you because it is there; it’s all over the internet now. Are they not there? Everywhere you look, you will see either medicine or one Chinese method of elongating your…


“It is a lie; it is not the length that matters but the effectiveness, the skills and your love for the other person. So, for God’s sake, wait till you get married. If it is only one person you are doing it with, there will be no need to compare all over the place. Do not let them kill you”,
he said.

Social media
The 57-year-old added that many men seek out treatments to enlarge their manhood due to social media influence and societal pressure.

Mr Adeyemi noted that social media has fostered insecurity and feelings of inadequacy, often leading to trauma.

He added, “Isn’t it evident that social media is very instrumental in creating social pressure because you have an idealised on social media right now? Pictures that have been touching off, or even if they’re not. Now, how many people post their problems on social media?

“It’s the good part of their life. Some of the idealised pictures are even fake. We’ve seen people taking photos of other people’s houses and claiming it. People lying using car etc. Don’t let them kill you, it’s very important.


Background
The clergyman last made headlines in May when he shared his reasons for relocating to the United States.

Mr Adeyemi disclosed that he remained in the US after the COVID-19 pandemic, as each time he and his wife set dates and booked flights to return to Nigeria, he experienced vivid dreams forewarning him of something terrible happening to him there.

The author stated that he had never before experienced two dreams about the same event in a single night, noting that he informed the Daystar elders that he agreed to manage the church’s operations while he stayed abroad.

The host of the radio and television programme ‘Success Power’, which airs in Europe, Africa, and the Middle East, said he and his wife ultimately chose to stay in the US after a virtual meeting with church leaders.

He added that his time in the US underscored Daystar’s strengths, particularly its investments in training and established systems.

In 2020, PREMIUM TIMES reported that Mr Adeyemi was one of the prominent Nigerian clerics who condemned the police for using live ammunition and tear gas to disperse #EndSARS protesters.

In November 2020, rights activist Kenechukwu Okeke filed a criminal complaint against Pastor Adeyemi and 50 other figures, including Burna Boy, Tiwa Savage, and Davido, over their involvement in the nationwide #EndSARS protests.

In response, these celebrities sued a magistrate’s court to dismiss the charges. In turn, Mr Okeke submitted a countermotion to the Abuja High Court, requesting the dismissal of the celebrities’ suit.

The lawyer alleged that his property was destroyed during the protests and argued that those who promoted the movement must be held accountable.

In January 2021, a High Court in the Federal Capital Territory ordered Magistrate Omolola Akindele to halt the prosecution of Pastor Adeyemi, Burna Boy, Davido, Falz, activist Deji Adeyanju, and others.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/entertainment/naija-fashion/753208-its-skill-not-size-pastor-sam-adeyemi-warns-men-against-penis-enlargement-medicine.html

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 5:04am On Nov 09
Gerrard59:

I referenced TWO NIGERIAN women who complained about the healthcare systems in the UK and Canada. One lived in Nigeria and the other in South Africa. Should their opinions be disregarded because you don't like them? Were they outrightly dishonest? People have complained bitterly about the scarcity of dentists and I was shocked because I see dentists clinics scattered around here. a doctor limiting a patient to one medical complaint per consultation sounds surreal to me. But people are complaining about this, but their complaints are unwarranted?

About the economy, every person out there knows that the US economy out-performs the UK by any measurable metric. Nigerians in the US out-earn every other diasporan, and I wager even more than those in China.

I like the phrase measurable metric in your last paragraph.

That something appears odd to you does not mean its wrong- again you need to look at the system and outcomes.
Context is what youre struggling with- e.g there are significant security issues in the UK but complaining about it does not mean they're experiencing anything close to what we see in 9ja.
It reminds me on 2 previous discussions I've had on NL- first was someone describing how expensive food is in the U.S cos he converted the price of Coke in usd into naira- I had to go to town to make him see that food is at least 10x more expensive in 9ja. Next was same person mocking the UK cos they were suffering high inflation and people were complaining online. I started by asking him when last inflation in 9ja was as low as 8%.

I'm trying not to go down on this but lets see. In your words, tell me one respectable measurable metric where health outcomes in Nigeria superceed the UK (or on a good trajectory to do soon)?

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TV/Movies / Re: What Series Are You Watching Now? Part 2 by Erenjp: 11:57am On Nov 06
Predestin:

have you given a full review of Blue eye Samuri?

Yes. Although I didn't go as in-depth and mostly criticized the finale

Quoted below:

Baddestguyp:
Blue Eye Samurai.....7.5/10


Great show. Better than I expected tbh.

But I didn't like the finale at all. Nothing in the finale made any sense.

The entire palace being burned to shreds from a little candle that was previously chilling on the floor? Wtf??
If it were that easy for the palace to burn, it would have burnt down since. No one would randomly keep a little candle on the floor if it were that easy.

Funny thing is the place the fire started from barely burnt, but everywhere else got burnt severely

The entire Palace invasion made no sense. From tactics to characters actions, to staging of the Army. It was just a poorly done finale in my opinion.


Another issue that bugged me from the start was Mizu's motivation. I just had a hard time with it throughout the show.

She has internal hatred for her race, the entire social and political system, etc cos the society hates her race and calls her a monster. Okay cool.
But then she wants to find and kill her Western father for giving her life into this world??

I mean, no matter how much you hate your race, I find it nonsensical to spend you entire life looking for your father cos he gave you that Western DNA. Even to the extent of travelling to London to find him to kill home just cos he brought you into this world?

If she doesn't like her race, let her just kill herself and let others be. I really struggled to sympathize with her because of her motivation...

Not saying it's bad, I'm saying it didn't move me at all. I struggled to rationalize it. That's just my personal opinion tho...others may like her motivations...I tried the rationalize it...but I couldn't

Or maybe there is something else I missed about her motivations? If so, let someone here specify what I missed


I still think the show offers some solid characters (despite it's obvious wokeness and feminism).
The characters and messages stood out for me.

The animation despite being CGI was also okay. If it were an anime, anime fans would treat it like a plague since they hate anything CGI (except it's a Western show).

I enjoyed the show...and I definitely recommend...


Just a few issues especially the finale that threw me off

Another complaint about the writing on the finale and the dûmbing down of characters to make the plot happen

Baddestguyp:
An Army is raiding the Shôgûn palace armed with gûns...

The Shogûn guards have only swords and arrows...

What do you do?
Try to force close range combat by laying quick ambush in tight spaces they'll pass

OR

Attempt to face them in open long spaces with Swords and Arrows



Guess which one the guards picked? grin

how TF was the Shogûn palace impenetrable with these dûmbàsses guarding it?
Politics / Libya Begins Mass Arrest Of Nigerians After CAF Verdict by Morbeta11(m): 9:46am On Nov 03

Libya begins mass arrest of Nigerians after CAF verdict


Following the verdict delivered by the Confederation of African Football in response to the complaint lodged by the Nigeria Football Federation over the recent inhumane treatment meted out to the Super Eagles in Libya, members of the Nigerian community have reported mass arrests and fines in the country.

The Nigerian football team was held at the Al-Abraq Airport in eastern Libya for over 20 hours upon arrival for the second leg of the 2025 Africa Cup of Nations qualifier between the Super Eagles and Libya’s national team.

The contingent was scheduled to land at the Benghazi Airport and travel for nearly four hours by road to Benina, where the match was to be played.

However, less than an hour before landing, the Tunisian pilot reportedly received a directive from Libyan authorities to divert the flight to the Al-Abraq Airport, located 150 miles away from the destination.


The development sparked widespread outrage, forcing the NFF to withdraw the Super Eagles from the qualifying match and file an official complaint to CAF.

In its ruling on Saturday, October 26, signed by its Chairman, Ousmane Kane, the disciplinary committee of the African football body awarded the Super Eagles of Nigeria three points and three goals for the abandoned match.

The disciplinary board ruled that the Libyan Football Federation breached Article 31 of the Africa Cup of Nations Regulations and Articles 82 and 151 of the CAF Disciplinary Code.

The panel also ordered the LFF to pay a fine of $50,000 within 60 days of the notification of the decision.

Displeased with the verdict, the LFF President Nasser Al-Suwai’I described it as “unjust and malicious,” alleging that the NFF’s influence within CAF played a major role in the outcome.

a report on Monday by a Libyan outlet, Libyan Observer, quoted Al-Suwai’I saying the LFF would file an official appeal within hours and that if the appeal was denied, the body would resort to the Court of Arbitration for Sport to ensure “their legitimate rights are secured.”

Campaign against Nigerians

Following the CAF ruling, a popular Libyan news blog, Libya News Today 1, posted on Sunday, stating, “All Libyan TV channels are urging the government to arrest the Nigerian workers who are working here in Libya without legal papers. They have to pay $500 plus taxes.

“The fine that Libya is accused of will be paid by Nigerian citizens who live in Libya. We have been subjected to injustice. We have no borders with Nigeria. What benefit are they to us? They’re a burden on the Libyan people. They have to go back home.”

The blog has more than 188,000 followers on Facebook and 57,000 likes.

The post was accompanied by a video of a Libyan TV presenter, who said, “Anyone who is living in Libya and working without paying tax is eating haram, which means sinful money. The government should make every effort to arrest all Nigerians who are working in Libya so that they can pay a tax of $500 and regulate their stay in the country by obtaining residence permits.”

Another Libyan site, Libya INF.TV, reported that Libyan stations wanted the government to start arresting Nigerian workers.

“Those who don’t have Libyan papers will have to pay a fine of $500 for taxes. If you refuse deportation, no mercy. The Libyan government will pay the Nigerian government from their citizens’ money,” the post said.

Mass arrests

Speaking with Sunday PUNCH, a Nigerian living in Tripoli, the Libyan capital, Adenaike Emmanuel, said the arrests began on Sunday after the CAF statement was released in the country.

“They have already started. The news came out on Saturday, and they were saying they can’t accept it and that they are not the ones who will pay the money. They have started proving this.

“Someone called me and said they had already begun arresting people in his area. The same thing is happening here in Tripoli. In some places, people were arrested on Sunday morning and afternoon. As I mentioned before, Libyans don’t hide their feelings. They believe that by doing this, they are getting their revenge,” Adenaike stated.

The President of the Nigerian community in Libya, Peter Omoregbie, also confirmed the arrests in a video shared by multiple Libya-based Nigerian blogs during the week.

Omoregbie, who confirmed this while making an official report at the Libyan immigration office on Monday, said, “The arrests started on Sunday night in some areas in Tedora. They are arresting innocent people. They don’t even care whether you have passports or residence permits. They just don’t care, which doesn’t happen in other countries.”

When asked to provide background to the incident, he said, “The football body is an association on its own, which the government isn’t supposed to interfere with according to CAF laws. There was a football match scheduled between Nigeria and Libya on October 15. Nigeria was supposed to arrive in Benghazi, but they were diverted to another state, so the match could not take place. The Nigerian football team then returned home. Since then, CAF has investigated the issue and set up a committee to find out what really happened.

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“Yesterday, the verdict was issued that Libya has to pay a fine of $50,000 to CAF due to the way they treated the Nigerian football team. Now, on social media, Libyan journalists and numerous bloggers are saying that Nigeria will be made to pay the $50,000 fine by arresting all Nigerians in Libya. But in other countries, nothing like that happens.

“As the community leader, I received some videos showing that the arrests started last night in the Tedora area. They said the Libyan police have started arresting Nigerians, whether they have passports or not. Some of us are already afraid, calling everywhere to ask what to do. Sometimes, as community leaders, we are helpless. Even the Nigerian Embassy’s hands are sometimes tied. But international bodies need to intervene in this situation.”

Two days after Omoregbie’s report, another Nigerian in the country, Omo Oba Legba, said the arrests had intensified.

In a Facebook video posted on Wednesday, he said, “My Arab master, who is a policeman, just called me now and told me not to go out to buy anything because they have started arresting Nigerians in Libya. I asked him, ‘What about those with Libyan passports?’ But he said they aren’t considering passports and that anyone who is Nigerian will be arrested. That’s why I decided to alert our people so they know how far this issue has gone.


“The Super Eagles had what they needed to and returned. They got their money, whether they won or not. But see the problem they’ve caused for us. If Nigeria was good, we wouldn’t have come to Libya to suffer. The Nigerian team only faced a day of hardship—what about other Nigerians here who face the same treatment every day? My Arab told me that until the CAF fine is overturned, they won’t stop arresting Nigerians. Please, we appeal to the Nigerian government to come to our aid.”

Similarly, Libya INF.TV posted a video on Thursday where a Nigerian pleaded with the Libyan police to stop the indiscriminate arrests.

He said, “Football has nothing to do with us. If you want to catch them, catch them when they come here. Leave us out of this. And to the Nigerian team, I don’t know what you’re thinking, coming here to play football with the Libyan people. You don’t have sense. Please, Libyan police, please.”

Libyan rights institution warns security agents

Meanwhile, the Chairman of the National Institution for Human Rights in Libya, Ahmed Hamza, has warned against retaliatory acts targeting Nigerian workers in the country in the aftermath of the CAF ruling.

According to Libya Review, Hamza noted that some media platforms were inciting hostility towards foreigners by portraying them as illegal or irregular residents.

“We warn against any form of retaliation against foreign and migrant workers in Libya, especially Nigerian workers, by security forces, armed groups, or citizens,” Hamza stated.

He cautioned that unlawful actions against foreigners could lead to repercussions in domestic and even international justice.

When Sunday PUNCH contacted the Libyan Embassy in Abuja for comments, a lady who identified herself simply as Rose said she was not authorised to talk.

She said, “As you can see, I am not the media secretary. Whatever information you need, kindly put it into writing and send it to the embassy. Then, they will respond to it. Address the letter to the ambassador of the Libyan embassy.”

Our correspondent wrote a letter of inquiry to the embassy as requested. However, 48 hours later, there was no response.

a request for information from the Nigerian Embassy in Tripoli was also not replied to as of press time.

When contacted, the spokesperson for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Eche Abu-Obe, simply said, “I have sent a message to the Director Africa.”

The Nigerians in Diaspora Commission had yet to respond to calls and a text message from Sunday PUNCH as of the time of filing this report.


Ex-envoy urges probe

a former Nigerian ambassador to Mexico, Ogbole Amedu-Ode, said the Federal Government should investigate the retaliatory arrests and report Libya to the African Union.

He said, “The Nigerian government doesn’t have hardcore evidence, and if they do, they should report Libya to the African Union. If Nigerians collate evidence of the maltreatment, the Federal Government can protest directly to the Libyan government over what Nigerians are facing.”

Amedu-Ode further advised Nigerians in the Arab country to keep low profiles until the situation was under control.

“If the atmosphere is too hot for them, they should leave Libya,” he added.
https://punchng.com/libya-begins-mass-arrest-of-nigerians-after-caf-verdict/

Travel / Libya Begins Mass Arrest Of Nigerians After CAF Verdict by adenigga(m): 8:04am On Nov 03
Following the verdict delivered by the Confederation of African Football in response to the complaint lodged by the Nigeria Football Federation over the recent inhumane treatment meted out to the Super Eagles in Libya, members of the Nigerian community have reported mass arrests and fines in the country.

The Nigerian football team was held at the Al-Abraq Airport in eastern Libya for over 20 hours upon arrival for the second leg of the 2025 Africa Cup of Nations qualifier between the Super Eagles and Libya’s national team.

The contingent was scheduled to land at the Benghazi Airport and travel for nearly four hours by road to Benina, where the match was to be played.

However, less than an hour before landing, the Tunisian pilot reportedly received a directive from Libyan authorities to divert the flight to the Al-Abraq Airport, located 150 miles away from the destination.

The development sparked widespread outrage, forcing the NFF to withdraw the Super Eagles from the qualifying match and file an official complaint to CAF.

In its ruling on Saturday, October 26, signed by its Chairman, Ousmane Kane, the disciplinary committee of the African football body awarded the Super Eagles of Nigeria three points and three goals for the abandoned match.

The disciplinary board ruled that the Libyan Football Federation breached Article 31 of the Africa Cup of Nations Regulations and Articles 82 and 151 of the CAF Disciplinary Code.

The panel also ordered the LFF to pay a fine of $50,000 within 60 days of the notification of the decision.

Displeased with the verdict, the LFF President Nasser Al-Suwai’I described it as “unjust and malicious,” alleging that the NFF’s influence within CAF played a major role in the outcome.

a report on Monday by a Libyan outlet, Libyan Observer, quoted Al-Suwai’I saying the LFF would file an official appeal within hours and that if the appeal was denied, the body would resort to the Court of Arbitration for Sport to ensure “their legitimate rights are secured.”

Campaign against Nigerians

Following the CAF ruling, a popular Libyan news blog, Libya News Today 1, posted on Sunday, stating, “All Libyan TV channels are urging the government to arrest the Nigerian workers who are working here in Libya without legal papers. They have to pay $500 plus taxes.

“The fine that Libya is accused of will be paid by Nigerian citizens who live in Libya. We have been subjected to injustice. We have no borders with Nigeria. What benefit are they to us? They’re a burden on the Libyan people. They have to go back home.”

The blog has more than 188,000 followers on Facebook and 57,000 likes.

The post was accompanied by a video of a Libyan TV presenter, who said, “Anyone who is living in Libya and working without paying tax is eating haram, which means sinful money. The government should make every effort to arrest all Nigerians who are working in Libya so that they can pay a tax of $500 and regulate their stay in the country by obtaining residence permits.”

Another Libyan site, Libya INF.TV, reported that Libyan stations wanted the government to start arresting Nigerian workers.

“Those who don’t have Libyan papers will have to pay a fine of $500 for taxes. If you refuse deportation, no mercy. The Libyan government will pay the Nigerian government from their citizens’ money,” the post said.

Mass arrests

Speaking with Sunday PUNCH, a Nigerian living in Tripoli, the Libyan capital, Adenaike Emmanuel, said the arrests began on Sunday after the CAF statement was released in the country.

“They have already started. The news came out on Saturday, and they were saying they can’t accept it and that they are not the ones who will pay the money. They have started proving this.

“Someone called me and said they had already begun arresting people in his area. The same thing is happening here in Tripoli. In some places, people were arrested on Sunday morning and afternoon. As I mentioned before, Libyans don’t hide their feelings. They believe that by doing this, they are getting their revenge,” Adenaike stated.

The President of the Nigerian community in Libya, Peter Omoregbie, also confirmed the arrests in a video shared by multiple Libya-based Nigerian blogs during the week.

Omoregbie, who confirmed this while making an official report at the Libyan immigration office on Monday, said, “The arrests started on Sunday night in some areas in Tedora. They are arresting innocent people. They don’t even care whether you have passports or residence permits. They just don’t care, which doesn’t happen in other countries.”

When asked to provide background to the incident, he said, “The football body is an association on its own, which the government isn’t supposed to interfere with according to CAF laws. There was a football match scheduled between Nigeria and Libya on October 15. Nigeria was supposed to arrive in Benghazi, but they were diverted to another state, so the match could not take place. The Nigerian football team then returned home. Since then, CAF has investigated the issue and set up a committee to find out what really happened.

“Yesterday, the verdict was issued that Libya has to pay a fine of $50,000 to CAF due to the way they treated the Nigerian football team. Now, on social media, Libyan journalists and numerous bloggers are saying that Nigeria will be made to pay the $50,000 fine by arresting all Nigerians in Libya. But in other countries, nothing like that happens.

“As the community leader, I received some videos showing that the arrests started last night in the Tedora area. They said the Libyan police have started arresting Nigerians, whether they have passports or not. Some of us are already afraid, calling everywhere to ask what to do. Sometimes, as community leaders, we are helpless. Even the Nigerian Embassy’s hands are sometimes tied. But international bodies need to intervene in this situation.”

Two days after Omoregbie’s report, another Nigerian in the country, Omo Oba Legba, said the arrests had intensified.

In a Facebook video posted on Wednesday, he said, “My Arab master, who is a policeman, just called me now and told me not to go out to buy anything because they have started arresting Nigerians in Libya. I asked him, ‘What about those with Libyan passports?’ But he said they aren’t considering passports and that anyone who is Nigerian will be arrested. That’s why I decided to alert our people so they know how far this issue has gone.

“The Super Eagles had what they needed to and returned. They got their money, whether they won or not. But see the problem they’ve caused for us. If Nigeria was good, we wouldn’t have come to Libya to suffer. The Nigerian team only faced a day of hardship—what about other Nigerians here who face the same treatment every day? My Arab told me that until the CAF fine is overturned, they won’t stop arresting Nigerians. Please, we appeal to the Nigerian government to come to our aid.”

Similarly, Libya INF.TV posted a video on Thursday where a Nigerian pleaded with the Libyan police to stop the indiscriminate arrests.

He said, “Football has nothing to do with us. If you want to catch them, catch them when they come here. Leave us out of this. And to the Nigerian team, I don’t know what you’re thinking, coming here to play football with the Libyan people. You don’t have sense. Please, Libyan police, please.”

Libyan rights institution warns security agents

Meanwhile, the Chairman of the National Institution for Human Rights in Libya, Ahmed Hamza, has warned against retaliatory acts targeting Nigerian workers in the country in the aftermath of the CAF ruling.

According to Libya Review, Hamza noted that some media platforms were inciting hostility towards foreigners by portraying them as illegal or irregular residents.

“We warn against any form of retaliation against foreign and migrant workers in Libya, especially Nigerian workers, by security forces, armed groups, or citizens,” Hamza stated.

He cautioned that unlawful actions against foreigners could lead to repercussions in domestic and even international justice.

When Sunday PUNCH contacted the Libyan Embassy in Abuja for comments, a lady who identified herself simply as Rose said she was not authorised to talk.

She said, “As you can see, I am not the media secretary. Whatever information you need, kindly put it into writing and send it to the embassy. Then, they will respond to it. Address the letter to the ambassador of the Libyan embassy.”

Our correspondent wrote a letter of inquiry to the embassy as requested. However, 48 hours later, there was no response.

a request for information from the Nigerian Embassy in Tripoli was also not replied to as of press time.

When contacted, the spokesperson for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Eche Abu-Obe, simply said, “I have sent a message to the Director Africa.”

The Nigerians in Diaspora Commission had yet to respond to calls and a text message from Sunday PUNCH as of the time of filing this report.

Ex-envoy urges probe

a former Nigerian ambassador to Mexico, Ogbole Amedu-Ode, said the Federal Government should investigate the retaliatory arrests and report Libya to the African Union.

He said, “The Nigerian government doesn’t have hardcore evidence, and if they do, they should report Libya to the African Union. If Nigerians collate evidence of the maltreatment, the Federal Government can protest directly to the Libyan government over what Nigerians are facing.”

Amedu-Ode further advised Nigerians in the Arab country to keep low profiles until the situation was under control.

“If the atmosphere is too hot for them, they should leave Libya,” he added.

Source: https://punchng.com/Libya-begins-mass-arrest-of-Nigerians-after-CAF-verdict

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Politics / Israeli Strikes Knocked Out All Of Iran’s S-300 Air Defense Systems: Officials by LEXYLOV: 3:40pm On Oct 30
Iran is likely still tallying the costs of the Israeli airstrikes launched on Saturday in retaliation for Tehran’s massive October 1 missile barrage on Israel. Among the targets that Israel appears to have gone after are Iran’s prized Russian-made S-300 air defense systems, according to U.S. and Israeli officials. Putting the Iranian S-300s out of action leaves the door open to follow-up strikes by Israel, including larger-scale direct attacks. As we noted on Saturday, this serves as both a contingent opportunity for the Israel Defense Forces and a deterrent against a response from Iran.
Among the critical Iranian military infrastructure destroyed on Saturday were its three surviving S-300 long-range surface-to-air missile systems. This is the assessment of unnamed U.S. and Israeli officials speaking to the Wall Street Journal. Iran’s only other S-300 system was already hit by Israel earlier this year.
An Iranian military truck carries parts of the S-300 air defence missile system during the annual military parade marking the anniversary of the outbreak of the 1980-1988 war with Saddam Hussein's Iraq, in Tehran on September 21, 2024. (Photo by ATTA KENARE / AFP) (Photo by ATTA KENARE/AFP via Getty Images)
“The IDF struck three or four S-300 sites, including one at the Imam Khomeini International Airport near Tehran,” the ISW adds.

The think tank states that at least some of the air defense sites targeted were protecting critical energy infrastructure in western and southwestern Iran and identifies sites being hit at the Abadan oil refinery, the Bandar Imam Khomeini energy complex and port, and the Tang-eh Bijar gas field.
Degrading the air defenses around these sites could leave them more vulnerable to future strikes,” ISW contends.

While the S-300 has been steadily updated since it was first introduced by the Soviet Union in the late 1970s, it is now an aging system and one that has proven vulnerable in Ukraine. Nevertheless, it remains a significant threat, especially if used as part of a layered air defense system, and these surface-to-air missile systems were the most capable of their kind available to Iran.

Tehran was the recipient of one of the more modern iterations of the S-300, namely the S-300PMU-2 Favorit (known to NATO as the SA-20B Gargoyle), which was introduced in 1997 and which has improved anti-ballistic missile capabilities. It should be noted that, over the years the IAF has trained against the specific S-300 threat in several multinational air exercises, making use of S-300PMU-1 systems operated by Greece and S-300s in the U.S., and refining its tactics in the process.
Replacement of Iran’s S-300s, at least in the near term, is hardly straightforward. Russia currently needs as much air defense equipment as it can produce, for the war in Ukraine, so the transfer of systems from its own stocks to Tehran seems less realistic. There’s also likely to be a long wait for new-production Russian air defense systems in the same class, like the more capable S-400. One option might be the deployment of one or two Russian batteries, as has happened before in Syria, but this would be more symbolic than anything else, and it is still less likely due to the strain on Russia’s own air defenses.

Regardless, the loss of the S-300s leaves Iran far more exposed than it was before the weekend, should Israel decide to launch any follow-up attacks on the country’s military infrastructure, or expand its target list to regime sites or nuclear installations. We also don’t know the state of Iran’s other air defense systems and networking architecture, which could have been attacked non-kinetically, especially using cyber tactics.

There are unconfirmed reports from Israel that some kind of follow-up operation might already have been prepared, with claims that government targets and infrastructure could be next, although Iranian nuclear facilities will apparently be spared for now. Considering how Saturday’s airstrikes included significant softening up of Iranian air defenses, it is almost inevitable that Israel has several follow-up options already planned should Iran respond with another barrage.

Reports now indicate that the Israeli strikes on Saturday targeted around 20 military bases and facilities, across Iran, including missile and drone manufacturing sites, as well as the S-300 air defense systems. The attack killed at least four soldiers.

As well as targeting air defense sites, including the S-300 systems, the Israeli attack was calculated to disrupt Iranian production of missiles and drones, something that should have a knock-on effect on Tehran’s proxies, such as Hezbollah and the Houthis, as well as for Russia.

One of the missile production facilities appears to be the Shahroud factory in Semnan province, with evidence of damage there seen below. Although Shahroud is best known for its role in the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) space program, it is also assessed to be an important center for the large-scale production of short- and intermediate-range ballistic missiles, too.

TWZ has already looked at the evidence of damage at the Parchin missile production complex, which was revealed through commercially available satellite imagery. In particular, the Israeli airstrikes appear to have targeted parts of the facility that were used for the production of the solid fuel that powers newer Iranian ballistic missiles.

ISW predicts that Iran “will likely need months or possibly a year or more” to acquire the equipment needed to replace these losses at Parchin.

Since the raids, more footage has emerged showing apparent destruction at another Iranian site, namely at Shams Abad, near Arak, which is understood to be home to a major drone production facility.

As we discussed before, the Israeli airstrikes appear to have involved air-launched ballistic missiles (ALBMs), with wreckage of at least one of these being discovered in Iraq. The same kinds of munitions were used in the spring of this year when another S-300 system was again the target.

Synthetic aperture radar imagery showing the aftermath of an earlier Israeli attack on an Iranian S-300 battery, in April 2024:

Using these weapons, which include Rocks and Air LORA, the Israeli Air Force can strike deep into Iran, with considerable standoff distances ensuring that its crewed aircraft are not put in extreme danger. It still remains unclear if any IAF aircraft flew into Iranian airspace, but some reports claim they did. Even using only standoff munitions, this may have been necessary in order to reach targets in eastern Iran, although they may not have had to penetrate far. At the same time, these weapons provide a combination of high accuracy and significant destructive power and are a major challenge to intercept.

There are still differing accounts as to the number of munitions launched by the IAF. The deputy commanding officer of the Iranian Army’s Southwestern Command, Mohammad Mokhtari-far, today claimed that more than 600 missiles were launched by Israeli aircraft. Bearing in mind multiple reports suggesting around 100 Israeli aircraft were involved, this figure seems vastly inflated. On the other hand, it remains very likely that Israel also employed other means to degrade Iranian air defenses, including potential cyber-attacks.

In the meantime, Iraq has lodged a complaint to the United Nations over Israel’s use of its airspace to attack Iran.

In a protest letter sent to U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres and the U.N. Security Council, Iraq condemned “the Zionist entity’s blatant violation of Iraq’s airspace and sovereignty by using Iraqi airspace to carry out an attack on the Islamic Republic of Iran on 26 October.”

We now also know a little more about some of the IAF aircraft and units that were involved in the strikes.

Pilots from various units are quoted in a Jerusalem Post article, which references 119 Squadron and 201 Squadron, which both fly the F-16I Sufa, a long-range strike specialist.

“It was an honor to fly through the dark desert, knowing every moment in the air was a step toward a new dawn for Israel,” said Lt. Col. “Y.,” commander of 119 Squadron.

From the Iranian side, threats of retaliation continue.

Maj. Gen. Hossein Salami, the chief of Iran’s IRGC, warned Israel it would face “bitter consequences” after its attack on Saturday, according to local media reports.

Salami was quoted today as having said that Israel had “failed to achieve its ominous goals,” describing the airstrikes as symbolic of “miscalculation and helplessness.”

At the same time, however, there is debate in Iran about what kind of response Tehran should formulate.

Iran now has to make a call as to whether to not respond at all, or at least with a direct attack like that on October 1, or whether to prepare some kind of retaliation that is seen as proportionate to the Israeli airstrikes — which were more limited than many expected.

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian said Tehran was not looking for a war but would respond “appropriately” to Israel’s strikes, suggesting a degree of caution. “We do not seek war, but we will defend the rights of our nation and country,” Pezeshkian told a cabinet meeting yesterday. “We will give an appropriate response to the aggression of the Zionist regime,” he added.

Meanwhile, Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Esmaeil Baghaei said that Tehran will “use all available tools” to respond to Israel’s attack, although provided no more details on how it would “deliver a definite and effective response to the Zionist regime.”

Finally, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei said yesterday that the attack should not be “exaggerated or downplayed” but also did not vow immediate retaliation. Meanwhile, there are reports that Khamenei is gravely ill, and the search for a potential successor could lead to a power struggle with possible repercussions on the conflict with Israel.

As we discussed over the weekend, the Israeli raid was carefully tailored to weaken Iran’s offensive and defensive capabilities while at the same time minimizing risk to Israel and providing deterrence. to reinforce the deterrence effect, Israeli officials now appear to be ramping up their threats of potential follow-up strikes.

Time will tell if that Israeli calculation pays off.

The operation was a balancing act of risk mitigation and deterrence that aimed to weaken Iran's offensive and defensive capabilities.
Howard Altman, Tyler Rogoway
F-35 IDF
Israel’s Retaliation Strikes On Iran

The response to a massive Iranian missile barrage on October 1st is now underway.
Howard Altman, Joseph Trevithick

https://www.twz.com/news-features/israeli-strikes-knocked-out-all-of-irans-s-300-air-defense-systems-officials

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Health / Jago Villagers In Oyo Celebrate First Toilet After 183 Years by RZArecta(m): 11:08am On Oct 30
After 183 years, Oyo villagers rejoice as new toilets end harrowing open defecation tales

Jago villagers in Oyo State are delighted that after 183 years of existence, they now have a dignified means of defecation through the installation of Sato Pan toilets but Olufon village does not have any toilet.

However, a handful of Jago villagers with toilets struggle to keep up with the monthly repayment of the installation costs they received as loan, writes GRACE EDEMA

Adeola Rasaki, 17, moved swiftly into a bush near her hut to defecate before going to school that early Wednesday morning in October.

Rasaki, who lives in Olufon village, is a Senior Secondary One student at Jago Secondary School, located in a nearby village called Jago in the Ona-Ara Local Government Area of Oyo State.

As soon as she found a safe place to relieve herself, Rasaki suddenly saw a snake on that spot. Sensing the presence of a human, the reptile quietly crawled away. However, Rasaki immediately lost the urge to relieve herself.

Coincidentally, later that day, our correspondent visited Jago village where Rasaki’s school is located, and she narrated her experience from that morning.

However, she was able to defecate safely and comfortably in a Sato Pan Toilet, which was recently constructed in her friend’s house in Jago village.

Rasaki, who was among the cultural troupe singing and dancing to welcome some United Nations Children’s Fund representatives visiting the village to celebrate the installation of Sato Pan toilets, looked sad despite the festivities.

Her near-death experience is common among residents of the Ona-Ara Local Government Area, Oyo State, where Olufon and Jago are part of the villages.

a young tailor, Alao Adisa, in Olufon village, sitting in a ramshackle shed, told our correspondent that he had never seen a toilet in his 35 years of existence.

We don’t have toilets here at all. We always have to defecate in the bushes. We hope the government will remember us one day and fund toilets for us or provide a public toilet where we can go. All my friends and relatives who got the Sato pan in Jago Village are struggling to pay for it. If the government could provide us with toilets, it would be a great help.”

Meanwhile, The PUNCH gathered that there had been a cholera outbreak in the community due to open defecation. There were also many stories of people being bitten by snakes and others falling into wells and ditches while trying to defecate openly in bushes or spaces around them.

Although the crowd danced rhythmically to the cultural songs sung by Rasaki and her mates from Jago Secondary School, located directly opposite the village head’s house, the reality of their inability to repay the loan they took from a microfinance bank for the construction of the toilets was apparent upon closer observation.

For these villagers, constructing the Sato Pan toilets was the first dignified means of defecation, marking an end to open defecation and its associated health implications.

The village head, also known as Baale, Chief Olusegun Oparinde, revealed that Jago Village, established in 1840, had its first decent toilet in 2023.

a Sato Pan toilet consists of a pan with a base and a comfortable sitting part attached to a slightly raised concrete platform made of building blocks. The ones installed in some houses in Jago are blue, with a V-shaped opening and a cover at the narrow end to guard against smell.

a Sato Pan was constructed at the cost of N70,000 each as of October 2023, both for the purchase of the pan and installation.

Being peasant farmers and petty traders, they all complained about their inability to meet their debts.

Looking dejected in her hut in Jago Village, Agnes Faju said, “Yes, we now have the toilet, but paying for it is the problem. I am 58 years old. I sell locust beans and some little things, and from there, I buy food for myself and the children living with me. I called a family member in Lagos who only gave me N5,000. I still owe N65,000. Is there any way the government can help us? Please tell the government to assist us in paying and provide toilets for other houses.”

Jago before Sato Pan toilet

Jago village, a sleepy community about an hour’s drive from Ibadan city, is home to peasant farmers and petty traders.

In the absence of proper toilets, Jago villagers resorted to ‘short put’, local parlance for open defecation. If they did not go into the bush to answer the call of nature, they defecated in nylon bags or paper and threw them into the bush.

Remarkably, it was not uncommon to meet people in their 40s and 60s and children who had never used a proper toilet, having practiced open defecation their entire lives.

Jenyo Adeniran, 43, who has four children, narrated that she had always defecated in the bush near her hut throughout her 43 years of living in Jago village. She is happy that she has the toilet but lamented that she had been struggling with the payment.

She said, “We defecate in the bush, and many people have contracted cholera because of the indiscriminate manner we defecate around the village. People are always falling ill and going to the health centre for treatment. We are happy that we now have the Sato Pan toilet, and I am one of the beneficiaries. Repaying is now a major issue, I have tried. I make N1,500 from my trading every day, which is what we use to eat and others, so how do I pay?”

Maria Balogun, who sells ogi (pap) and moi-moi (beans pudding) every evening in Jago, also said she had never seen a toilet in her 62 years of living in Jago.

“They have marked a spot outside my hut for the construction of a sanitary facility. It is very expensive, and although we are expected to pay in installments, I don’t have wealthy children who can help me pay off the debt. I will have to struggle to manage the payments.”

This disorganised method of handling faeces exposed the community river, which is the sole source of water for domestic use, to pollution.

Explaining the situation to The PUNCH, the community head, Oparinde, said, “When rain falls, the faeces flow into the river—the same river where we fetch water for cooking and drinking. There is no way we won’t have cholera outbreaks from time to time. We always have it.”

a Professor of Public Health and Community Medicine at the University of Ilorin, Tanimola Akande, described the situation as unhealthy and dangerous.

“It is a horrible thing when you defecate in the open; you are making the people around the place susceptible to diseases. Flies will get in and transmit all manner of diseases. When you defecate somewhere, it is washed into the river and consumed by other people in another village,” Akande said.

The 2021 Water Sanitation and Hygiene National Outcome Routine Mapping report revealed that about 1.3 per cent of GDP, or N455bn, is lost annually due to poor access to sanitation, healthcare savings, and productivity.

The community head told our correspondent that the introduction of the Sato Pan toilet to the community was welcomed with enthusiasm.

Oparinde said, “This Sato Pan toilet is of great importance to our community because we always used the bush to defecate both in the day and at night, making the whole environment reek of offensive odours. You couldn’t walk a pole without stepping on faeces; it was so embarrassing. No one in the village had a latrine except my own house, which has just one. Everyone defecated anywhere around them.

“But it is dangerous. Some people would just faint, there would be cholera, some have fallen inside wells, and there have been some who have had snakebites.”

how Jago village got toilet

to create greater access to sanitation and hygiene, the state government and UNICEF pooled a total of N80m. This amount was allocated towards the implementation of the Sanitation Revolving Fund, which offers households a single-digit interest rate of nine per cent for the construction of sanitation facilities.

Being a fairly educated village head, Oparinde, after learning about the partnerships involved in the construction of Sato Pan toilets aimed at ending the risks associated with the age-old practice of open defecation, initiated various awareness programs to convince the villagers why they must invest in these toilets.

Despite his efforts to raise awareness and explain to his community members the importance of investing in Sato Pan toilets, Oparinde said no one was forthcoming with any plans to take up the offer. But he devised a means.

“When I noticed that no one was showing interest, I decided to use a carrot-and-stick method. I locked up some houses and told them the government did it. When they heard this, they started begging me, and I told them I would only speak on their behalf to the government if they agreed to invest in the Sato Pan toilets.”

He explained that once they all agreed to invest in the Sato Pan toilets, he had them sign into the acquisition process, after which their houses were reopened. He lamented that they were still defaulting in payment.

Process of acquisition

a Sato Pan was constructed at the cost of N70,000 each as of October 2023, both for the purchase of the pan and installation.

The acquisition of the Sato pan toilet by each household was done through installment payments to a microfinance bank called NUT MFB.

Every home signed to a credit loan at the MFB after which they were to make a refund of N10,000 per month for seven months.

Unfortunately, the majority of these villagers have not been able to pay back the loan after signing and completing the forms.

Every home signed to a credit loan at the MFB after which they were to make a refund of N10,000 per month for seven months.

Unfortunately, the majority of these villagers have not been able to pay back the loan after signing and completing the forms.

Two major engineers called Toilet Business Owners in Jago Village coordinated and installed the toilets for the villagers who had to open an account in a Microfinance Bank where they were expected to receive a refund of N10,000.00 every month.

Unfortunately, the villagers who are peasant farmers, and petty traders are defaulting on the repayment plan. Although they now have the Sato pan toilet installed on credit, however, a handful of them have not been faithful to the repayment.

One of the engineers, Taiwo Idowu, revealed that they had constructed 70 toilets in Jago only. He stressed that he and his teammates had a plan to stop the credit installation, due to the villagers’ inability to refund the loan.

He narrated, “We have constructed more than 70 toilets in Jago, but we have issues with payment; they are not paying. After building the toilet for them, the next step is refunding the money, but the people are not ready to refund because most of them are underprivileged.”

Idowu mentioned that the villagers owed him N3m so they had stopped installing for anyone.

“They all like the toilet, but to pay back is the issue because they are less privileged, they can’t afford it. Most of them struggle to feed. If there is any assistance the government can give them, they are trying to pay but it’s difficult. If the government can pay part of it for them, the better. There are some villages we didn’t go to because of distance and we know they may not be able to pay. to go to such villages costs N4,000 on a motorcycle, popularly called Okada. When you go to ask for their debt, no one shows any commitment, thereby coming home with nothing.”

In response to Idowu’s complaint, Oparinde appealed that “We have been begging them not to stop the installation of the Sato pan toilets. On my own, I sponsored the construction for four families because I knew they couldn’t provide three square meals conveniently. We have introduced the contributory method of payment.”

a farmer in Jago village, Aderemi Oyewunmi, told our correspondent that he was grateful for the Sato pan toilet loan initiative at the back of his hut, he, however, was finding it hard to repay the loan.

“Things have not been bright here financially, I am happy that I have the Sato pan toilet but I have only paid N8,000 out of the N60,000, since July when it was installed. There is no money, I am not making much from farming and mostly what I produce is what we eat in the house. It is not that I don’t want to pay but I am not earning enough to be able to do so.”

a petty trader, who is also a widow said, “It has not been easy making the refunds I have not paid anything yet. In a day I make just N1,000 or less, so how do they want me to gather N10,000 without closing up my little business.”

The villagers’ inability to refund the loan or afford the cost of the Sato pan toilet is a discouragement to the continuity of a decent toilet system which thereby, slows down the drive towards stopping open defecation in the community.

Experts, government react

On the contrary, Akande explained that the partnership committee ought to have access to the people’s ability to pay before embarking on the construction, adding that the villagers should also not expect to get the toilet installation for free.

He said, “Usually, for such a project, you want to do a mini-assessment; willingness to pay the cost, will they be willing to pay? We are used to free things but when you give things for free, it is not sustainable. The villagers need to make provision for their toilets. It is not also good for the Toilet Business Owners to start the project and abandon it because they didn’t get the villagers’ cooperation in terms of payment. They need to prevent open defecation.”

He called on the government to enforce the availability of toilets in homes in Oyo State and across the country.

“Government can provide public toilets, borehole. The Local Governments can do this but they always behave like they are not meant to do anything. LGs should do its work and go round to make sure every home has a toilet.”

The Oyo State Commissioner for Information and Orientation, Dotun Oyelade, in a chat with The PUNCH at a two-day media dialogue on open defecation-free in the South-West States, held in Ibadan, the Oyo State said the government would punish anyone caught defecating in the open.

He said the move to penalise open defecators was part of efforts aimed at achieving the national target of ending open defecation in Nigeria by 2027.

He said, “The State Governor, Seyi Makinde, has unequivocally mandated the Ministry of Justice to ensure the prosecution of anyone who dumps, refuses, or defecates openly. The penalty, when fully in place, will promote behavioural change in the hygiene of citizens and curb open defecation.

“The government is willing to effect the necessary behavioural change in open defecation, working with UNICEF’s Water, Sanitation and Hygiene action plan. In this state, we have adopted the WASH action plan; if need be, we will back it up with legislation.

“And the Ministry of Justice has been mandated to penalise defecators and those dumping refuse in illegal sites. Also, law enforcement agencies will do their bit. Sadly, Nigeria has taken over from Egypt by recording the highest rate of open defecation. And the government will deal decisively with open defecators,” he insisted.

Oyelade, who said the government, before 2027, would ensure much improvement in the social menaces and all other diseases plaguing the state, however, appealed to the residents to patronise government-approved waste consultants and stop the unhygienic practice of open defecation.

to this end, billboards will be erected at major junctions and entry points of the state, to discourage anyone from practising any environmental infractions, and the penalties. The government is bent on ensuring residents obey the law of social etiquette.”

Similarly, the Director of the state’s Rural Water Supply and Sanitation Agency, Mrs Titilayo Obayemi, said the state government had in 2022 unveiled a roadmap on open defecation.

Obayemi said the roadmap would enable the state to plan how the 33 Local Government Areas in the state would be open defecation-free by the year 2028.

She said the practice of open defecation in the state was worrisome and the government was doing everything possible to meet its target of open defecation-free society by 2028.

She said the state government had started working in two local governments, Ona-Ara and Egbeda as pilot local governments to end open defecation.

“We have started mobilisation of the stakeholders on it, we have picked two LGAs with the help of UNICEF and we have been able to trigger some of these communities.

“We have about 800 communities in the two LGAs and we have triggered some of them to be open-defecation-free,” she added.

With the growing concern about meeting the 2028 open defecation free target, the Oyo State Government and other stakeholders need to speed up efforts in helping low-income communities access decent and affordable toilets.

Oyo battles open defecation

For years, Oyo State has tried to eliminate open defecation without much success. In 2021, the state government introduced 50 mobile toilets across public spaces, and in 2022, the state House of Assembly passed the Open Defecation Free Bill.

Together with UNICEF, they launched the Open Defecation Free Roadmap and the Clean Nigeria Campaign and declared an emergency in the water, sanitation, and hygiene sector.

Yet, 74 per cent of schools in the state still lacked access to basic sanitation services in 2023, UNICEF revealed, and Oyo still ranks second on the open defecation index.

The 2021 Water Sanitation and Hygiene National Outcome Routine Mapping report revealed that about 5,020,920 residents, representing 53.7 per cent of the total population of Oyo State, practice open defecation, while about 3,621,520, representing 43 per cent, use unimproved toilet facilities.

The report also stated that only 8.4 per cent of households have access to basic hand-washing services.

UNICEF Chief for Water, Sanitation and Hygiene Nigeria, Ms Jane Beavan, in a statement called on the state government to fast-track its efforts to meet its target of ending open defecation by 2028.


She urged residents of Oyo State to support the efforts of the government to end open defecation.

Beavan said, “Children are the ones that suffer the most when there are outbreaks of diseases like cholera and others. More than half of the people of Oyo do not have access to safe toilets, and that means more than half of the population practice open defecation.”

UNICEF Lagos Field Officer, WASH Specialist, Mr Monday Johnson, speaking at the 2023 World Toilet Day Celebration in Ibadan, said 83 per cent of motor parks and markets in the state also lacked toilet facilities, despite open defecation’s effect on health, education, nutrition, and sometimes exacerbating poverty.

Open defecation crisis

The Nigeria Bureau of Statistics says nearly 48 million Nigerians practice open defecation. It said 95 million Nigerians have no access to basic sanitation services. That is nearly half of the country’s population.

https://punchng.com/after-183-years-oyo-villagers-rejoice-as-new-toilets-end-harrowing-open-defecation-tales/

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Politics / Re: Biggest Lesson Of Tinubu Presidency Is That Yorubas Know How To Remain Silent by Britishpea: 10:10am On Oct 29
SpiritMoney:
Bunch of tribalistic nitwits! I've never seen a group of people so afflicted by tribalism like the yorubas.

Why we didnt notice it under obasanjo was that he was a moderately performing president so there was no avenue for complaint from the rest of the south. In addition, he was our preferred candidate... so he wasn't criticised the way Tinubu is today.

The people are unashamedly, intensely tribalistic! My God!

They make that of the northerners look like child's play! angry

how can u call a whole region and the people nitwits. This says a lot about you!

Yoruba actually know how to get what they want. Maybe you people should start working in this line. Else, u In particular or the our kids won’t be here in 20 years time to call a region and it’s people nitwit.
Improper education acquisition has taken a lot of toll on you!

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Politics / Re: Biggest Lesson Of Tinubu Presidency Is That Yorubas Know How To Remain Silent by horsepower102: 8:54pm On Oct 28
SpiritMoney:
Bunch of tribalistic nitwits! I've never seen a group of people so afflicted by tribalism like the yorubas.

Why we didnt notice it under obasanjo was that he was a moderately performing president so there was no avenue for complaint from the rest of the south. In addition, he was our preferred candidate... so he wasn't criticised the way Tinubu is today.

The people are unashamedly, intensely tribalistic! My God!

They make that of the northerners look like child's play! angry

My brother the thing dey give me goose bumps. Their level of tribalism is beyond my understanding. Even to their own detriment.

We will review the score card after tinubu leaves to see how their lives changed for the better.

I also hate that they vote bad leaders yet looking for visa to japa.

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Nairaland / General / Recovering From The Norton Scam Involving Apple Gift Cards by techspell: 7:58pm On Oct 28
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how the Norton Scam with Apple Gift Cards WorksInitial Contact and Deception


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Secure Your Devices and Accounts

Change all your passwords, especially for your Apple ID, Norton account, and any financial accounts that may have been compromised. Enable two-factor authentication wherever possible to add an extra layer of security. Run a comprehensive antivirus scan on all your devices to ensure no malware was installed during the scam. Be vigilant for any signs of identity theft in the coming months, as scammers may have obtained personal information during the fraud.

Recovering Financially from the Norton Apple Gift Card ScamAssessing the Damage - Norton Scam with Apple Gift Cards Recovery

If you've fallen victim to the Norton Apple Gift Card scam, the first step in Norton Scam with Apple Gift Cards recovery is to assess the extent of your losses. Gather all relevant documentation, including gift card receipts, communication records with the scammers, and bank statements. This information will be crucial when reporting the fraud and seeking reimbursement.

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Protecting Yourself from Scams Involving Gift Cards in the FutureRecognize Red Flags

Be vigilant for warning signs of gift card scams. Legitimate companies and government agencies will never demand payment via gift cards. If someone pressures you to make immediate payments using gift cards, it's likely a scam. Be especially wary of unsolicited calls or emails claiming to be from tech support, the IRS, or other official entities.

Verify Requests Independently

Always double-check the legitimacy of any request involving gift cards. If you receive a call or email asking for payment, hang up and contact the company or agency directly using their official website or phone number. Never use contact information provided by the potential scammer.

Educate Yourself and Others

Stay informed about the latest scam tactics by following updates from consumer protection agencies like the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). Share this knowledge with friends and family, especially those who may be more vulnerable to such scams. Remember, awareness is your best defense against fraudsters.

Secure Your Personal Information

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Conclusion

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Religion / Vessels by Iwillbeback: 7:24am On Oct 28
By Tolulope ilori
www.tolulopeilori.com

2 Timothy 2:20-21
Now in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver but also of wood and clay, some for honorable use, some for dishonorable. Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart as holy, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work.

2 Corinthians 4:7
But we have this treasure in jars of clay, to show that the surpassing power belongs to God and not to us.

1 Peter 3:7
Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.

Isaiah 64:8
But now, O Lord, you are our Father; we are the clay, and you are our potter; we are all the work of your hand.

Romans 9:21-23
Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory—

Acts 9:15
But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

1 Thessalonians 4:4
That each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor,

2 Kings 4:3-4
Then he said, “Go outside, borrow vessels from all your neighbors, empty vessels and not too few. Then go in and shut the door behind yourself and your sons and pour into all these vessels. And when one is full, set it aside.”

Luke 8:16
“No one after lighting a lamp covers it with a jar or puts it under a bed, but puts it on a stand, so that those who enter may see the light.

1 Thessalonians 4:3-5
For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God;

Jeremiah 18:4
And the vessel he was making of clay was spoiled in the potter's hand, and he reworked it into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to do.

James 4:7
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

2 Kings 4:3-6
Then he said, “Go outside, borrow vessels from all your neighbors, empty vessels and not too few. Then go in and shut the door behind yourself and your sons and pour into all these vessels. And when one is full, set it aside.” So she went from him and shut the door behind herself and her sons. And as she poured they brought the vessels to her. When the vessels were full, she said to her son, “Bring me another vessel.” And he said to her, “There is not another.” Then the oil stopped flowing.

Colossians 3:23-24
Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward. You are serving the Lord Christ.

Matthew 12:29
Or how can someone enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house.

Exodus 25:29
And you shall make its plates and dishes for incense, and its flagons and bowls with which to pour drink offerings; you shall make them of pure gold.

Hebrews 2:14
Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil,

Ezra 1:7-11
Cyrus the king also brought out the vessels of the house of the Lord that Nebuchadnezzar had carried away from Jerusalem and placed in the house of his gods. Cyrus king of Persia brought these out in the charge of Mithredath the treasurer, who counted them out to Sheshbazzar the prince of Judah. And this was the number of them: 30 basins of gold, 1,000 basins of silver, 29 censers, 30 bowls of gold, 410 bowls of silver, and 1,000 other vessels; all the vessels of gold and of silver were 5,400. All these did Sheshbazzar bring up, when the exiles were brought up from Babylonia to Jerusalem.

2 Timothy 2:20
Now in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver but also of wood and clay, some for honorable use, some for dishonorable.

Mark 11:16
And he would not allow anyone to carry anything through the temple.

Matthew 25:4
But the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps.

Romans 9:22
What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,

Numbers 19:15
And every open vessel that has no cover fastened on it is unclean.

Romans 9:21
Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use?

Habakkuk 2:1-3
I will take my stand at my watchpost and station myself on the tower, and look out to see what he will say to me, and what I will answer concerning my complaint. And the Lord answered me: “Write the vision; make it plain on tablets, so he may run who reads it. For still the vision awaits its appointed time; it hastens to the end—it will not lie. If it seems slow, wait for it; it will surely come; it will not delay.

1 Samuel 21:5
And David answered the priest, “Truly women have been kept from us as always when I go on an expedition. The vessels of the young men are holy even when it is an ordinary journey. how much more today will their vessels be holy?”

Hebrews 9:21-22
And in the same way he sprinkled with the blood both the tent and all the vessels used in worship. Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

Ephesians 2:10
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Proverbs 25:4
Take away the dross from the silver, and the smith has material for a vessel;

1 Samuel 10:1
Then Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on his head and kissed him and said, “Has not the Lord anointed you to be prince over his people Israel? And you shall reign over the people of the Lord and you will save them from the hand of their surrounding enemies. And this shall be the sign to you that the Lord has anointed you to be prince over his heritage.

2 Chronicles 24:13
So those who were engaged in the work labored, and the repairing went forward in their hands, and they restored the house of God to its proper condition and strengthened it.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Acts 5:29
But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Hosea 8:8
Israel is swallowed up; already they are among the nations as a useless vessel.

1 Kings 17:12-16
And she said, “As the Lord your God lives, I have nothing baked, only a handful of flour in a jar and a little oil in a jug. And now I am gathering a couple of sticks that I may go in and prepare it for myself and my son, that we may eat it and die.” And Elijah said to her, “Do not fear; go and do as you have said. But first make me a little cake of it and bring it to me, and afterward make something for yourself and your son. For thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, ‘The jar of flour shall not be spent, and the jug of oil shall not be empty, until the day that the Lord sends rain upon the earth.’” And she went and did as Elijah said. And she and he and her household ate for many days. The jar of flour was not spent, neither did the jug of oil become empty, according to the word of the Lord that he spoke by Elijah.

1 Kings 7:48-50
So Solomon made all the vessels that were in the house of the Lord: the golden altar, the golden table for the bread of the Presence, the lampstands of pure gold, five on the south side and five on the north, before the inner sanctuary; the flowers, the lamps, and the tongs, of gold; the cups, snuffers, basins, dishes for incense, and fire pans, of pure gold; and the sockets of gold, for the doors of the innermost part of the house, the Most Holy Place, and for the doors of the nave of the temple.

Daniel 5:2-3
Belshazzar, when he tasted the wine, commanded that the vessels of gold and of silver that Nebuchadnezzar his father had taken out of the temple in Jerusalem be brought, that the king and his lords, his wives, and his concubines might drink from them. Then they brought in the golden vessels that had been taken out of the temple, the house of God in Jerusalem, and the king and his lords, his wives, and his concubines drank from them.

Jeremiah 51:34
“Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon has devoured me; he has crushed me; he has made me an empty vessel; he has swallowed me like a monster; he has filled his stomach with my delicacies; he has rinsed me out.

Romans 9:22-23
What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory—

Daniel 1:2
And the Lord gave Jehoiakim king of Judah into his hand, with some of the vessels of the house of God. And he brought them to the land of Shinar, to the house of his god, and placed the vessels in the treasury of his god.

Jeremiah 18:2-6
“Arise, and go down to the potter's house, and there I will let you hear my words.” So I went down to the potter's house, and there he was working at his wheel. And the vessel he was making of clay was spoiled in the potter's hand, and he reworked it into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to do. Then the word of the Lord came to me: “O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter has done? declares the Lord. Behold, like the clay in the potter's hand, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel.

1 Timothy 6:11
But as for you, O man of God, flee these things. Pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, steadfastness, gentleness.

Leviticus 6:28
And the earthenware vessel in which it is boiled shall be broken. But if it is boiled in a bronze vessel, that shall be scoured and rinsed in water.

Galatians 5:4
You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.

Jeremiah 33:10
“Thus says the Lord: In this place of which you say, ‘It is a waste without man or beast,’ in the cities of Judah and the streets of Jerusalem that are desolate, without man or inhabitant or beast, there shall be heard again

Jeremiah 18:3-4
So I went down to the potter's house, and there he was working at his wheel. And the vessel he was making of clay was spoiled in the potter's hand, and he reworked it into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to do.

Ezra 1:6
And all who were about them aided them with vessels of silver, with gold, with goods, with beasts, and with costly wares, besides all that was freely offered.

Mark 14:13
And he sent two of his disciples and said to them, “Go into the city, and a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him,

Haggai 2:16
how did you fare? When one came to a heap of twenty measures, there were but ten. When one came to the wine vat to draw fifty measures, there were but twenty.

Isaiah 30:14
And its breaking is like that of a potter's vessel that is smashed so ruthlessly that among its fragments not a shard is found with which to take fire from the hearth, or to dip up water out of the cistern.”

Isaiah 22:24
And they will hang on him the whole honor of his father's house, the offspring and issue, every small vessel, from the cups to all the flagons.

Jeremiah 18:3-6
So I went down to the potter's house, and there he was working at his wheel. And the vessel he was making of clay was spoiled in the potter's hand, and he reworked it into another vessel, as it seemed good to the potter to do. Then the word of the Lord came to me: “O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter has done? declares the Lord. Behold, like the clay in the potter's hand, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel.

1 Kings 8:4
And they brought up the ark of the Lord, the tent of meeting, and all the holy vessels that were in the tent; the priests and the Levites brought them up.

Jeremiah 48:11
“Moab has been at ease from his youth and has settled on his dregs; he has not been emptied from vessel to vessel, nor has he gone into exile; so his taste remains in him, and his scent is not changed.

Numbers 3:31
And their guard duty involved the ark, the table, the lampstand, the altars, the vessels of the sanctuary with which the priests minister, and the screen; all the service connected with these.

2 Corinthians 6:14
Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?

1 Corinthians 6:19
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own,

1 Corinthians 2:5
So that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.

Romans 1:17
For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, “The righteous shall live by faith.”

Jeremiah 32:14
‘Thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: Take these deeds, both this sealed deed of purchase and this open deed, and put them in an earthenware vessel, that they may last for a long time.

Psalm 23:5
You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; you anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows.

Numbers 4:14
And they shall put on it all the utensils of the altar, which are used for the service there, the fire pans, the forks, the shovels, and the basins, all the utensils of the altar; and they shall spread on it a covering of goatskin, and shall put in its poles.

Do you have question ❓
Travel / Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by Konquest: 9:10pm On Oct 27
fullclub:
This is a rejoinder because i felt that if i dont give an account on how it ended it won't be nice.
Here is the other or first thread about my complaint and how i found it difficult to adjust and meet up my financial obligations in uk.
https://www.nairaland.com/7889678/experience-uk-since-japa-warning

I want to thank all those who advised me to stay back and fight it through. After reading those positive comments and some friends here i decided to stay back.
Today i want you all to join me celebrate as i have graduated from the University here and my graduation is coming up November 29th 2024.
It was not an easy journey honestly at first i thought it will be impossible to complete my studies giving the fact that school started mounting pressure on me shortly after i decided to stay back.

I got first job December/January but honestly it couldn't sustain house rent. So i had to sell some properties in Naija to remain afloat, Then stopped the job i was on when i got another one and the pay was sustainable but lost that one after few months. Then my dependant who came leta got a job and together our finances could now sustain and also clear fees balance.
The property I sold enabled me to clear some part of school fees because that is the main burden to student aside rent


Lessons learnt so far:

1) to all folks planing on japa via school should make adequate preparation, do your planning/home work well because the first 6 months in UK is not for the faint hearted. On the aspect of school feee ensure you have plans on how to get it cleared as fast as possible.


2) If you don't know how to drive please and please learn it. You don't need to have a car before u learn. Learn now... Like now its a skill that is valuable in all field.

3) Again if you plan to japa now or in future, please know thar driving or knowing how to drive is a skill its self.

4) It is quite expensive to learn how to drive when u leave Nigeria. You can spend over 5m to learn how to drive in UK.

5) Buying a car is far cheaper as a month rent is enough to get you a modern car.

6) Having a car and a driver licence will open doors for you that are impossible to open

7) No one (Nigerians) borrow or lend any money in the UK.. I mean reasonable money like 100, 200 etc. Although u could get credit card. I mean abeg borrow me this money i go pay back so soo time.

8.) life could be lonely amongst the Nigerian communities as everyone is chasing money. But is life fun for British? Yes the British like a fun filled lifestyle. We dont club 1/10th in Nigeria like they do here but can you foot the bill like a newcomer in town?

9) it takes an average of 3 months to 4 months to get a job. Soo I will say there are jobs especially for those who have previous experience in a field. The more experience u have the better and faster u are to get jobs.

10) don't learn automatic driving leaving manual. Please learn manual car driving then u could learn automatic. 80% of cars here are manual. U can see 2020 manual car model everywhere

11) you could use public transport to get to a place in 2:30hrs whereas same place will take u 13 minutes or less with your private car.

12) food is crazy cheap but house rent is not cheap. So staying in remote places could safe u more assuming u have a car to get to place of work.

13) if you are coming its good to have 1000 pounds set aside to learn skills thay could land u job easily. This skills and certification are just few weeks to achieve.

14) learn to network with those on ground. They already know or have some job connections hidden that could take u years to find out.

15) at least know the basics of computer operations like how to send mail, do job search via indeed. Use ms Word etc it helps.
16) in Nigeria when see someon or stranger u stone ur face.. Bone ur face trying to investigate but in the uk its otherwise. When u see someone u smile.. And be polite.

17) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.









Nairaland / General / The Essential Guide To Consultation Attorneys In Banking And Mediation by johnsmith3: 2:56pm On Oct 27
Navigating Legal Waters: The Essential Guide to Consultation Attorneys in Banking and Mediation

Obviously, it is often the case that individuals and companies involved in the huge number of operations in the modern financial market are in need of qualified legal advice. Consultation attorneys are very important in the complex legal situations involving banking and mediation among parties. Whether it’s knowing all the small rules of a bank, or solving conflicts through civil and family mediation – it is a great asset to have experienced lawyers.

All these positions cannot be underemphasized, especially consultation attorneys in banking laws and mediation. These professionals assist their clients address the legal issues and safeguard their rights. Regarding the contracts with banks, their knowledge is a gold mine: all the works which are made in civil-like and family-like disputes become easier to solve. This basic source would look at some of these attorneys, banking laws and various strategies in mediation so that you can make the right decisions whenever you are going through your legal process.

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Understanding the Role of Consultation Attorneys in Banking

Consultation attorneys are very important for the banking industry because they offer services which are especially related to banking. Banks help institutions to advise on regulations and compliance, so that institutions do not violate the law. These attorneys assist in formulating policies that prevent or reduce threats likely to endanger the bank and their input in day to day running of the business is therefore crucial.

Apart from compliance, it is crucial when getting the consultation attorneys especially when the banks are involved in transactions that include mergers, acquisition and investment. They conduct research to determine legal implications that may come with such deals and advise clients on how those transactions may be structured for the least risks averted. Their engagement makes it possible for the banks to decide appropriately on most of the contractual aspects and this makes the contractual provisions to be legal in a manner that passes the interests of the bank.

In addition, consultation attorneys also handle concerns and matters involving disputes and litigation in banking. These types of attorneys often defend the bank when a customer has a complaint, in a regulatory probe or an internal matter. It is therefore instrumental for the bank to have known the legal requirements so as to sustain the image and smooth running of the institution in the market.

Key Considerations for Choosing a Banking Attorney

While choosing a banking attorney, there should be an agreement on one issue, which is their proficiency in banking law. This branch of law actually covers all sorts of legal matters such as compliance with the rules and regulations, business loans and any other transactions that may lead to a dispute. The lawyer you hire should be one who has special experience and training in handling banking issues similar to your own. Read some of their achievements, past experience and testimonies from clients about their ability to handle such cases.

Another important factor is an attorney’s experience handling the banking institution with which you are engaging as well as his/her experience of civil or family mediation. This knowledge can be so helpful especially when faced with cases that lead to court or those that require a negotiation. An attorney that has experience dealing with banks of the like of Gillett or any other nbsp;similar one will add value to the legal plans that are in place. Sometimes it is crucial to establish a good relationship and antecedent with the attorney in order to facilitate communication as well as a positive working relation.

Other more specific areas include cost and billing structures as other relevant considerations when selecting a banking attorney. Attorneys may base their services in different structures like hourly charge, flat rate or through contingency charge. It is crucial to learn about all these costs beforehand so as to avoid being sucked in unprepared when an accident occurs which will need one to pay for a lawyer without compromising on one’s capability. During the consultation, do not forget to mention about the costs or about anything that may be costly throughout the project that should meet your financial capacity.

The Importance of Mediation in Civil and Family Matters

Generally, mediation has a strategic position in helping solve cases that involve civil and domestic conflict. This one facilitates an active exchange of information and ideas so that the parties can freely voice their viewpoints and needs. Mediation in contrast from litigation since the process involves bargaining where the two parties agree to reach the decision on their own with the assistance of the mediator. This approach is both time efficient and may also decrease the amount of anxiety related to lengthy trials.

Whenever there are conflicts within a family; whether it is on issues to do with child custody, or early divorce or settlement, mediation would be important in preserving other aspects of the relationship. It gives the family members a chance to associate themselves on matters of common interest, for instance when children are involved. This can, in turn, bring about better overall results satisfying the requirements of the family than having a ruling from the court. Consultation attorneys play a big role here, as they can accompany their clients to mediation while helping them to protect their interests.

It is also important to note that contract or business related and individual complaints intended disputes are also well served by the mediation process. Conflicting stakeholders do not need to experience the stress and expenses of cumbersome trial and appeals processes. a competitive advantage of Mediation is that solutions are reached faster, taking into consideration certain characteristics or circumstances which define the case in question. This approach not only maintains the business relationships but also increases the chances of a business dealing with the other side at some time in the future, thus showing how mediation can be useful in any legal setting.
Travel / Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by Izuchukwu70: 1:19pm On Oct 26
fullclub:
This is a rejoinder because i felt that if i dont give an account on how it ended it won't be nice.
Here is the other or first thread about my complaint and how i found it difficult to adjust and meet up my financial obligations in uk.
https://www.nairaland.com/7889678/experience-uk-since-japa-warning

I want to thank all those who advised me to stay back and fight it through. After reading those positive comments and some friends here i decided to stay back.
Today i want you all to join me celebrate as i have graduated from the University here and my graduation is coming up November 29th 2024.
It was not an easy journey honestly at first i thought it will be impossible to complete my studies giving the fact that school started mounting pressure on me shortly after i decided to stay back.

I got first job December/January but honestly it couldn't sustain house rent. So i had to sell some properties in Naija to remain afloat, Then stopped the job i was on when i got another one and the pay was sustainable but lost that one after few months. Then my dependant who came leta got a job and together our finances could now sustain and also clear fees balance.
The property I sold enabled me to clear some part of school fees because that is the main burden to student aside rent


Lessons learnt so far:

1) to all folks planing on japa via school should make adequate preparation, do your planning/home work well because the first 6 months in UK is not for the faint hearted. On the aspect of school feee ensure you have plans on how to get it cleared as fast as possible.


2) If you don't know how to drive please and please learn it. You don't need to have a car before u learn. Learn now... Like now its a skill that is valuable in all field.

3) Again if you plan to japa now or in future, please know thar driving or knowing how to drive is a skill its self.

4) It is quite expensive to learn how to drive when u leave Nigeria. You can spend over 5m to learn how to drive in UK.

5) Buying a car is far cheaper as a month rent is enough to get you a modern car.

6) Having a car and a driver licence will open doors for you that are impossible to open

7) No one (Nigerians) borrow or lend any money in the UK.. I mean reasonable money like 100, 200 etc. Although u could get credit card. I mean abeg borrow me this money i go pay back so soo time.

cool life could be lonely amongst the Nigerian communities as everyone is chasing money. But is life fun for British? Yes the British like a fun filled lifestyle. We dont club 1/10th in Nigeria like they do here but can you foot the bill like a newcomer in town?

9) it takes an average of 3 months to 4 months to get a job. Soo I will say there are jobs especially for those who have previous experience in a field. The more experience u have the better and faster u are to get jobs.

10) don't learn automatic driving leaving manual. Please learn manual car driving then u could learn automatic. 80% of cars here are manual. U can see 2020 manual car model everywhere

11) you could use public transport to get to a place in 2:30hrs whereas same place will take u 13 minutes or less with your private car.

12) food is crazy cheap but house rent is not cheap. So staying in remote places could safe u more assuming u have a car to get to place of work.

13) if you are coming its good to have 1000 pounds set aside to learn skills thay could land u job easily. This skills and certification are just few weeks to achieve.

14) learn to network with those on ground. They already know or have some job connections hidden that could take u years to find out.

15) at least know the basics of computer operations like how to send mail, do job search via indeed. Use ms Word etc it helps.
16) in Nigeria when see someon or stranger u stone ur face.. Bone ur face trying to investigate but in the uk its otherwise. When u see someone u smile.. And be polite.

17) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.











Trash.

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Travel / Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by esiri4jesu(m): 7:47am On Oct 26
fullclub:
This is a rejoinder because i felt that if i dont give an account on how it ended it won't be nice.
Here is the other or first thread about my complaint and how i found it difficult to adjust and meet up my financial obligations in uk.
https://www.nairaland.com/7889678/experience-uk-since-japa-warning

I want to thank all those who advised me to stay back and fight it through. After reading those positive comments and some friends here i decided to stay back.
Today i want you all to join me celebrate as i have graduated from the University here and my graduation is coming up November 29th 2024.
It was not an easy journey honestly at first i thought it will be impossible to complete my studies giving the fact that school started mounting pressure on me shortly after i decided to stay back.

I got first job December/January but honestly it couldn't sustain house rent. So i had to sell some properties in Naija to remain afloat, Then stopped the job i was on when i got another one and the pay was sustainable but lost that one after few months. Then my dependant who came leta got a job and together our finances could now sustain and also clear fees balance.
The property I sold enabled me to clear some part of school fees because that is the main burden to student aside rent


Lessons learnt so far:

1) to all folks planing on japa via school should make adequate preparation, do your planning/home work well because the first 6 months in UK is not for the faint hearted. On the aspect of school feee ensure you have plans on how to get it cleared as fast as possible.


2) If you don't know how to drive please and please learn it. You don't need to have a car before u learn. Learn now... Like now its a skill that is valuable in all field.

3) Again if you plan to japa now or in future, please know thar driving or knowing how to drive is a skill its self.

4) It is quite expensive to learn how to drive when u leave Nigeria. You can spend over 5m to learn how to drive in UK.

5) Buying a car is far cheaper as a month rent is enough to get you a modern car.

6) Having a car and a driver licence will open doors for you that are impossible to open

7) No one (Nigerians) borrow or lend any money in the UK.. I mean reasonable money like 100, 200 etc. Although u could get credit card. I mean abeg borrow me this money i go pay back so soo time.

cool life could be lonely amongst the Nigerian communities as everyone is chasing money. But is life fun for British? Yes the British like a fun filled lifestyle. We dont club 1/10th in Nigeria like they do here but can you foot the bill like a newcomer in town?

9) it takes an average of 3 months to 4 months to get a job. Soo I will say there are jobs especially for those who have previous experience in a field. The more experience u have the better and faster u are to get jobs.

10) don't learn automatic driving leaving manual. Please learn manual car driving then u could learn automatic. 80% of cars here are manual. U can see 2020 manual car model everywhere

11) you could use public transport to get to a place in 2:30hrs whereas same place will take u 13 minutes or less with your private car.

12) food is crazy cheap but house rent is not cheap. So staying in remote places could safe u more assuming u have a car to get to place of work.

13) if you are coming its good to have 1000 pounds set aside to learn skills thay could land u job easily. This skills and certification are just few weeks to achieve.

14) learn to network with those on ground. They already know or have some job connections hidden that could take u years to find out.

15) at least know the basics of computer operations like how to send mail, do job search via indeed. Use ms Word etc it helps.
16) in Nigeria when see someon or stranger u stone ur face.. Bone ur face trying to investigate but in the uk its otherwise. When u see someone u smile.. And be polite.

17) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.









Is nigeria driver's license valid in the UK?
Travel / Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by femi4: 7:12am On Oct 26
fullclub:
This is a rejoinder because i felt that if i dont give an account on how it ended it won't be nice.
Here is the other or first thread about my complaint and how i found it difficult to adjust and meet up my financial obligations in uk.
https://www.nairaland.com/7889678/experience-uk-since-japa-warning

I want to thank all those who advised me to stay back and fight it through. After reading those positive comments and some friends here i decided to stay back.
Today i want you all to join me celebrate as i have graduated from the University here and my graduation is coming up November 29th 2024.
It was not an easy journey honestly at first i thought it will be impossible to complete my studies giving the fact that school started mounting pressure on me shortly after i decided to stay back.

I got first job December/January but honestly it couldn't sustain house rent. So i had to sell some properties in Naija to remain afloat, Then stopped the job i was on when i got another one and the pay was sustainable but lost that one after few months. Then my dependant who came leta got a job and together our finances could now sustain and also clear fees balance.
The property I sold enabled me to clear some part of school fees because that is the main burden to student aside rent


Lessons learnt so far:

1) to all folks planing on japa via school should make adequate preparation, do your planning/home work well because the first 6 months in UK is not for the faint hearted. On the aspect of school feee ensure you have plans on how to get it cleared as fast as possible.


2) If you don't know how to drive please and please learn it. You don't need to have a car before u learn. Learn now... Like now its a skill that is valuable in all field.

3) Again if you plan to japa now or in future, please know thar driving or knowing how to drive is a skill its self.

4) It is quite expensive to learn how to drive when u leave Nigeria. You can spend over 5m to learn how to drive in UK.

5) Buying a car is far cheaper as a month rent is enough to get you a modern car.

6) Having a car and a driver licence will open doors for you that are impossible to open

7) No one (Nigerians) borrow or lend any money in the UK.. I mean reasonable money like 100, 200 etc. Although u could get credit card. I mean abeg borrow me this money i go pay back so soo time.

cool life could be lonely amongst the Nigerian communities as everyone is chasing money. But is life fun for British? Yes the British like a fun filled lifestyle. We dont club 1/10th in Nigeria like they do here but can you foot the bill like a newcomer in town?

9) it takes an average of 3 months to 4 months to get a job. Soo I will say there are jobs especially for those who have previous experience in a field. The more experience u have the better and faster u are to get jobs.

10) don't learn automatic driving leaving manual. Please learn manual car driving then u could learn automatic. 80% of cars here are manual. U can see 2020 manual car model everywhere

11) you could use public transport to get to a place in 2:30hrs whereas same place will take u 13 minutes or less with your private car.

12) food is crazy cheap but house rent is not cheap. So staying in remote places could safe u more assuming u have a car to get to place of work.

13) if you are coming its good to have 1000 pounds set aside to learn skills thay could land u job easily. This skills and certification are just few weeks to achieve.

14) learn to network with those on ground. They already know or have some job connections hidden that could take u years to find out.

15) at least know the basics of computer operations like how to send mail, do job search via indeed. Use ms Word etc it helps.
16) in Nigeria when see someon or stranger u stone ur face.. Bone ur face trying to investigate but in the uk its otherwise. When u see someone u smile.. And be polite.

17) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.



It's not about learning how to drive, it's about passing the driving test cos uk driving system is another kettle of fish. They driving on the right, many crazy round abouts, road marking speed limits and road signs

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Travel / Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by PEACE2023: 7:03am On Oct 26
fullclub:
This is a rejoinder because i felt that if i dont give an account on how it ended it won't be nice.
Here is the other or first thread about my complaint and how i found it difficult to adjust and meet up my financial obligations in uk.
https://www.nairaland.com/7889678/experience-uk-since-japa-warning

I want to thank all those who advised me to stay back and fight it through. After reading those positive comments and some friends here i decided to stay back.
Today i want you all to join me celebrate as i have graduated from the University here and my graduation is coming up November 29th 2024.
It was not an easy journey honestly at first i thought it will be impossible to complete my studies giving the fact that school started mounting pressure on me shortly after i decided to stay back.

I got first job December/January but honestly it couldn't sustain house rent. So i had to sell some properties in Naija to remain afloat, Then stopped the job i was on when i got another one and the pay was sustainable but lost that one after few months. Then my dependant who came leta got a job and together our finances could now sustain and also clear fees balance.
The property I sold enabled me to clear some part of school fees because that is the main burden to student aside rent


Lessons learnt so far:

1) to all folks planing on japa via school should make adequate preparation, do your planning/home work well because the first 6 months in UK is not for the faint hearted. On the aspect of school feee ensure you have plans on how to get it cleared as fast as possible.


2) If you don't know how to drive please and please learn it. You don't need to have a car before u learn. Learn now... Like now its a skill that is valuable in all field.

3) Again if you plan to japa now or in future, please know thar driving or knowing how to drive is a skill its self.

4) It is quite expensive to learn how to drive when u leave Nigeria. You can spend over 5m to learn how to drive in UK.

5) Buying a car is far cheaper as a month rent is enough to get you a modern car.

6) Having a car and a driver licence will open doors for you that are impossible to open

7) No one (Nigerians) borrow or lend any money in the UK.. I mean reasonable money like 100, 200 etc. Although u could get credit card. I mean abeg borrow me this money i go pay back so soo time.

cool life could be lonely amongst the Nigerian communities as everyone is chasing money. But is life fun for British? Yes the British like a fun filled lifestyle. We dont club 1/10th in Nigeria like they do here but can you foot the bill like a newcomer in town?

9) it takes an average of 3 months to 4 months to get a job. Soo I will say there are jobs especially for those who have previous experience in a field. The more experience u have the better and faster u are to get jobs.

10) don't learn automatic driving leaving manual. Please learn manual car driving then u could learn automatic. 80% of cars here are manual. U can see 2020 manual car model everywhere

11) you could use public transport to get to a place in 2:30hrs whereas same place will take u 13 minutes or less with your private car.

12) food is crazy cheap but house rent is not cheap. So staying in remote places could safe u more assuming u have a car to get to place of work.

13) if you are coming its good to have 1000 pounds set aside to learn skills thay could land u job easily. This skills and certification are just few weeks to achieve.

14) learn to network with those on ground. They already know or have some job connections hidden that could take u years to find out.

15) at least know the basics of computer operations like how to send mail, do job search via indeed. Use ms Word etc it helps.
16) in Nigeria when see someon or stranger u stone ur face.. Bone ur face trying to investigate but in the uk its otherwise. When u see someone u smile.. And be polite.

17) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.









Another British slave celebrating in his captives soil. Ewu
Travel / Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by Onyeka8: 6:13am On Oct 26
fullclub:
This is a rejoinder because i felt that if i dont give an account on how it ended it won't be nice.
Here is the other or first thread about my complaint and how i found it difficult to adjust and meet up my financial obligations in uk.
https://www.nairaland.com/7889678/experience-uk-since-japa-warning

I want to thank all those who advised me to stay back and fight it through. After reading those positive comments and some friends here i decided to stay back.
Today i want you all to join me celebrate as i have graduated from the University here and my graduation is coming up November 29th 2024.
It was not an easy journey honestly at first i thought it will be impossible to complete my studies giving the fact that school started mounting pressure on me shortly after i decided to stay back.

I got first job December/January but honestly it couldn't sustain house rent. So i had to sell some properties in Naija to remain afloat, Then stopped the job i was on when i got another one and the pay was sustainable but lost that one after few months. Then my dependant who came leta got a job and together our finances could now sustain and also clear fees balance.
The property I sold enabled me to clear some part of school fees because that is the main burden to student aside rent


Lessons learnt so far:

1) to all folks planing on japa via school should make adequate preparation, do your planning/home work well because the first 6 months in UK is not for the faint hearted. On the aspect of school feee ensure you have plans on how to get it cleared as fast as possible.


2) If you don't know how to drive please and please learn it. You don't need to have a car before u learn. Learn now... Like now its a skill that is valuable in all field.

3) Again if you plan to japa now or in future, please know thar driving or knowing how to drive is a skill its self.

4) It is quite expensive to learn how to drive when u leave Nigeria. You can spend over 5m to learn how to drive in UK.

5) Buying a car is far cheaper as a month rent is enough to get you a modern car.

6) Having a car and a driver licence will open doors for you that are impossible to open

7) No one (Nigerians) borrow or lend any money in the UK.. I mean reasonable money like 100, 200 etc. Although u could get credit card. I mean abeg borrow me this money i go pay back so soo time.

cool life could be lonely amongst the Nigerian communities as everyone is chasing money. But is life fun for British? Yes the British like a fun filled lifestyle. We dont club 1/10th in Nigeria like they do here but can you foot the bill like a newcomer in town?

9) it takes an average of 3 months to 4 months to get a job. Soo I will say there are jobs especially for those who have previous experience in a field. The more experience u have the better and faster u are to get jobs.

10) don't learn automatic driving leaving manual. Please learn manual car driving then u could learn automatic. 80% of cars here are manual. U can see 2020 manual car model everywhere

11) you could use public transport to get to a place in 2:30hrs whereas same place will take u 13 minutes or less with your private car.

12) food is crazy cheap but house rent is not cheap. So staying in remote places could safe u more assuming u have a car to get to place of work.

13) if you are coming its good to have 1000 pounds set aside to learn skills thay could land u job easily. This skills and certification are just few weeks to achieve.

14) learn to network with those on ground. They already know or have some job connections hidden that could take u years to find out.

15) at least know the basics of computer operations like how to send mail, do job search via indeed. Use ms Word etc it helps.
16) in Nigeria when see someon or stranger u stone ur face.. Bone ur face trying to investigate but in the uk its otherwise. When u see someone u smile.. And be polite.

17) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.

Congratulations bro.
You've done well.








Travel / Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by uckay304: 4:25am On Oct 26
fullclub:
This is a rejoinder because i felt that if i dont give an account on how it ended it won't be nice.
Here is the other or first thread about my complaint and how i found it difficult to adjust and meet up my financial obligations in uk.
https://www.nairaland.com/7889678/experience-uk-since-japa-warning

I want to thank all those who advised me to stay back and fight it through. After reading those positive comments and some friends here i decided to stay back.
Today i want you all to join me celebrate as i have graduated from the University here and my graduation is coming up November 29th 2024.
It was not an easy journey honestly at first i thought it will be impossible to complete my studies giving the fact that school started mounting pressure on me shortly after i decided to stay back.

I got first job December/January but honestly it couldn't sustain house rent. So i had to sell some properties in Naija to remain afloat, Then stopped the job i was on when i got another one and the pay was sustainable but lost that one after few months. Then my dependant who came leta got a job and together our finances could now sustain and also clear fees balance.
The property I sold enabled me to clear some part of school fees because that is the main burden to student aside rent


Lessons learnt so far:

1) to all folks planing on japa via school should make adequate preparation, do your planning/home work well because the first 6 months in UK is not for the faint hearted. On the aspect of school feee ensure you have plans on how to get it cleared as fast as possible.


2) If you don't know how to drive please and please learn it. You don't need to have a car before u learn. Learn now... Like now its a skill that is valuable in all field.

3) Again if you plan to japa now or in future, please know thar driving or knowing how to drive is a skill its self.

4) It is quite expensive to learn how to drive when u leave Nigeria. You can spend over 5m to learn how to drive in UK.

5) Buying a car is far cheaper as a month rent is enough to get you a modern car.

6) Having a car and a driver licence will open doors for you that are impossible to open

7) No one (Nigerians) borrow or lend any money in the UK.. I mean reasonable money like 100, 200 etc. Although u could get credit card. I mean abeg borrow me this money i go pay back so soo time.

cool life could be lonely amongst the Nigerian communities as everyone is chasing money. But is life fun for British? Yes the British like a fun filled lifestyle. We dont club 1/10th in Nigeria like they do here but can you foot the bill like a newcomer in town?

9) it takes an average of 3 months to 4 months to get a job. Soo I will say there are jobs especially for those who have previous experience in a field. The more experience u have the better and faster u are to get jobs.

10) don't learn automatic driving leaving manual. Please learn manual car driving then u could learn automatic. 80% of cars here are manual. U can see 2020 manual car model everywhere

11) you could use public transport to get to a place in 2:30hrs whereas same place will take u 13 minutes or less with your private car.

12) food is crazy cheap but house rent is not cheap. So staying in remote places could safe u more assuming u have a car to get to place of work.

13) if you are coming its good to have 1000 pounds set aside to learn skills thay could land u job easily. This skills and certification are just few weeks to achieve.

14) learn to network with those on ground. They already know or have some job connections hidden that could take u years to find out.

15) at least know the basics of computer operations like how to send mail, do job search via indeed. Use ms Word etc it helps.
16) in Nigeria when see someon or stranger u stone ur face.. Bone ur face trying to investigate but in the uk its otherwise. When u see someone u smile.. And be polite.

17) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.
Can one enter in the name of schooling but switch to another thing when reach and forgetting schooling?








Travel / Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by sonofthunder: 11:29pm On Oct 25
fullclub:
This is a rejoinder because i felt that if i dont give an account on how it ended it won't be nice.
Here is the other or first thread about my complaint and how i found it difficult to adjust and meet up my financial obligations in uk.
https://www.nairaland.com/7889678/experience-uk-since-japa-warning

I want to thank all those who advised me to stay back and fight it through. After reading those positive comments and some friends here i decided to stay back.
Today i want you all to join me celebrate as i have graduated from the University here and my graduation is coming up November 29th 2024.
It was not an easy journey honestly at first i thought it will be impossible to complete my studies giving the fact that school started mounting pressure on me shortly after i decided to stay back.

I got first job December/January but honestly it couldn't sustain house rent. So i had to sell some properties in Naija to remain afloat, Then stopped the job i was on when i got another one and the pay was sustainable but lost that one after few months. Then my dependant who came leta got a job and together our finances could now sustain and also clear fees balance.
The property I sold enabled me to clear some part of school fees because that is the main burden to student aside rent


Lessons learnt so far:

1) to all folks planing on japa via school should make adequate preparation, do your planning/home work well because the first 6 months in UK is not for the faint hearted. On the aspect of school feee ensure you have plans on how to get it cleared as fast as possible.


2) If you don't know how to drive please and please learn it. You don't need to have a car before u learn. Learn now... Like now its a skill that is valuable in all field.

3) Again if you plan to japa now or in future, please know thar driving or knowing how to drive is a skill its self.

4) It is quite expensive to learn how to drive when u leave Nigeria. You can spend over 5m to learn how to drive in UK.

5) Buying a car is far cheaper as a month rent is enough to get you a modern car.

6) Having a car and a driver licence will open doors for you that are impossible to open

7) No one (Nigerians) borrow or lend any money in the UK.. I mean reasonable money like 100, 200 etc. Although u could get credit card. I mean abeg borrow me this money i go pay back so soo time.

cool life could be lonely amongst the Nigerian communities as everyone is chasing money. But is life fun for British? Yes the British like a fun filled lifestyle. We dont club 1/10th in Nigeria like they do here but can you foot the bill like a newcomer in town?

9) it takes an average of 3 months to 4 months to get a job. Soo I will say there are jobs especially for those who have previous experience in a field. The more experience u have the better and faster u are to get jobs.

10) don't learn automatic driving leaving manual. Please learn manual car driving then u could learn automatic. 80% of cars here are manual. U can see 2020 manual car model everywhere

11) you could use public transport to get to a place in 2:30hrs whereas same place will take u 13 minutes or less with your private car.

12) food is crazy cheap but house rent is not cheap. So staying in remote places could safe u more assuming u have a car to get to place of work.

13) if you are coming its good to have 1000 pounds set aside to learn skills thay could land u job easily. This skills and certification are just few weeks to achieve.

14) learn to network with those on ground. They already know or have some job connections hidden that could take u years to find out.

15) at least know the basics of computer operations like how to send mail, do job search via indeed. Use ms Word etc it helps.
16) in Nigeria when see someon or stranger u stone ur face.. Bone ur face trying to investigate but in the uk its otherwise. When u see someone u smile.. And be polite.

17) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.












Can you shed more light on point number 6

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Travel / Re: My Experience In UK Since I Japa:warning Rejoinder by LEGALSER: 10:21pm On Oct 25
fullclub:
This is a rejoinder because i felt that if i dont give an account on how it ended it won't be nice.
Here is the other or first thread about my complaint and how i found it difficult to adjust and meet up my financial obligations in uk.
https://www.nairaland.com/7889678/experience-uk-since-japa-warning

I want to thank all those who advised me to stay back and fight it through. After reading those positive comments and some friends here i decided to stay back.
Today i want you all to join me celebrate as i have graduated from the University here and my graduation is coming up November 29th 2024.
It was not an easy journey honestly at first i thought it will be impossible to complete my studies giving the fact that school started mounting pressure on me shortly after i decided to stay back.

I got first job December/January but honestly it couldn't sustain house rent. So i had to sell some properties in Naija to remain afloat, Then stopped the job i was on when i got another one and the pay was sustainable but lost that one after few months. Then my dependant who came leta got a job and together our finances could now sustain and also clear fees balance.
The property I sold enabled me to clear some part of school fees because that is the main burden to student aside rent


Lessons learnt so far:

1) to all folks planing on japa via school should make adequate preparation, do your planning/home work well because the first 6 months in UK is not for the faint hearted. On the aspect of school feee ensure you have plans on how to get it cleared as fast as possible.


2) If you don't know how to drive please and please learn it. You don't need to have a car before u learn. Learn now... Like now its a skill that is valuable in all field.

3) Again if you plan to japa now or in future, please know thar driving or knowing how to drive is a skill its self.

4) It is quite expensive to learn how to drive when u leave Nigeria. You can spend over 5m to learn how to drive in UK.

5) Buying a car is far cheaper as a month rent is enough to get you a modern car.

6) Having a car and a driver licence will open doors for you that are impossible to open

7) No one (Nigerians) borrow or lend any money in the UK.. I mean reasonable money like 100, 200 etc. Although u could get credit card. I mean abeg borrow me this money i go pay back so soo time.

cool life could be lonely amongst the Nigerian communities as everyone is chasing money. But is life fun for British? Yes the British like a fun filled lifestyle. We dont club 1/10th in Nigeria like they do here but can you foot the bill like a newcomer in town?

9) it takes an average of 3 months to 4 months to get a job. Soo I will say there are jobs especially for those who have previous experience in a field. The more experience u have the better and faster u are to get jobs.

10) don't learn automatic driving leaving manual. Please learn manual car driving then u could learn automatic. 80% of cars here are manual. U can see 2020 manual car model everywhere

11) you could use public transport to get to a place in 2:30hrs whereas same place will take u 13 minutes or less with your private car.

12) food is crazy cheap but house rent is not cheap. So staying in remote places could safe u more assuming u have a car to get to place of work.

13) if you are coming its good to have 1000 pounds set aside to learn skills thay could land u job easily. This skills and certification are just few weeks to achieve.

14) learn to network with those on ground. They already know or have some job connections hidden that could take u years to find out.

15) at least know the basics of computer operations like how to send mail, do job search via indeed. Use ms Word etc it helps.
16) in Nigeria when see someon or stranger u stone ur face.. Bone ur face trying to investigate but in the uk its otherwise. When u see someone u smile.. And be polite.

17) no power failure not even a seconds.

18) all road are connected

19) nothing like tribalism or regionality in UK. Like every uk sees him or her self equal and uphold their nationality unlike tribes we do in Nigeria.










UK has been good despite all the hurdles I had to scale through. I arrived UK on the 13th of September last year and God made a way for me to be housed by two Nigerians I barely know. One housed me for about 6months and the other for 3 months till I was able to secure my own accommodation. God has been faithful and it's a fact I really appreciate. I faced the school fees issues as well in fact my account was blocked and I couldn't submit my assessment but all those are stories to be told another day. Congratulations to you Op on your forthcoming graduation, mine will be in few months.

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