Nuttella:
You refused to answer my question. Stop giving accolades to ancestral powers, like I said, they are demons, my grandfather worshipped ancestral idols, he was their chief priest to be precise and he wanted my dad to continue when he died but my dad refused and destroyed the altar etc and threw away every thing pertaining to the deity. All of us are Christians now. Yes we all have fought the deity through lots of battles, but at the end we won. God always win. Demons and spirits have limited power.

God is the king of kings and Lord of lords, he is a man of war, all power belongs to him. He created heaven and earth.

Give your life to Christ, dont let anyone decieve you into thinking that African religion is more powerful.

Nuttella:
I can come to the altar of your ancestors and do whatever I want, they worship demons and the last time I checked God is more powerful than demons, my only anger is that some people fear demons more than God which is wrong, those people that did that massacre, their punishment will be severe, it might not happen immediately but it will happen. people are just doing whatever they want in the house of God just because God is merciful. forgetting that he is also a consuming fire.

If demons are as strong as you give them credit for, how come pastors cast out demons from people? I have cast out lots of demons from people in the dream too.

So who is more powerful between God and demons/fallen angels?

MaxInDHouse:

When i first said the OP was never a Christian you jumped at me as if you know what Christianity entails. The only true Christian group on earth today are Jehovah's Witnesses, Jesus wasn't a nepotist that's why his own people hated him intensely. They thought he supposed to benefit them with his great powers so that they can conquer and rule the world.
But Jesus came to commissioned a global training program that will help bring people from all the earth together as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers, that's why he is called the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6}
So if Jesus never thought of the good of his own people alone but the benefit of all people globally then why do you think your problem here must be solved by Jesus?
Well it's the politicians under Satan's control that are making life unbearable for their fellowman {Ecclesiastes 4:1;8:9} and things are more difficult in places where nepotism/ tribalism is at work!


Before the white men came with the Bible, your black brothers are already polygamists, so what was their belief regarding the upbringing of their children?
For your information, it's Western Civilization that has helped in keeping most of these children alive today. Do you still remember what is called "Àbíkú"? Your black brothers failed to make research so when curable illnesses kills their children they'll attribute the cause to Àbíkú instead of upgrading their health facilities.
Today Àbíkú and Ogbanje have disappeared. WHY? Because Western Civilization has opened their eyes, but still nepotism still makes them feel each of them must become a father of multitude.
I am one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, most of our own leaders don't even have children because they've realized that it doesn't mean blessings!

Soulrebel2:


Exactly.. Now let me school you..why didn't the white man develop all this things before?...they met Africans and suddenly started developing things....think!...(all this engineering/medicine and nice cloths and fancy things were aready there...they brought nothing...it is our gold/diamond/copper and petrol and it was utilized in kemet and nubia)Read your history dear.......Igbo/Yoruba are just settlers that came from a great kingdom which was known as kemet(modern day Egypt).. They developed medicine/engineering..but what did the white man do? They came and demonized Egypt (the Egypt you see today you shall see no more)oh my god!

CodeTemplar:
Then why is everybody chasing the things that white man brought and is bringing? Things like cars, fancy clothes, and gadgets? IFA has nothing to offer and is a empty system powered by blood.

Nuttella:
Practice your African tradition, let me practice my Christianity, no one is stopping you from being a herbalist or a traditionist, you can continue dinning with demons and water spirits, I want to dine with the King of kings and Lord of lords, no one forced me to know God on a personal level, I sought him myself and found out he actually exist, like I will always say its better I die than for me not to worship and serve God. Now that is the level of my trust and faith in him. You can continue crying us a river, your tears will full a drum. And yes my children will be Christians too. God will reveal his power to them and they will believe like I did, I don't serve a powerless God.

CodeTemplar:


So according to you, we are better off then than we are now right?

MaxInDHouse:
You're boiling too hot my friend so calm down a bit!

I said knowledge is the "accumulation of useful information" while Wisdom is the "practical application of accumulated information for lasting benefits"

So knowledge comes before wisdom but wisdom is put knowledge to it's best use!

CodeTemplar:
Same IFA your ancestors practiced and were overrun by Jesus inspires colonialists. Keep going back to your unproductive roots. What we need is to truly break free from that root and let Jesus take control only then will we progress.

MaxInDHouse:
My friend,

KNOWLEDGE is just the accumulation of useful information, of course everyone around you have one thing or another in their brains they call KNOWLEDGE.

But

WISDOM is the practical application of accumulated information which brings lasting benefits for it's users.

So think of how what you know is benefitting you along with other adherents around you and globally. If you can't figure that out then it means you'll continue to be bitter inside while denying it before others!

MaxInDHouse:
My friend,

KNOWLEDGE is just the accumulation of useful information, of course everyone around you have one thing or another in their brains they call KNOWLEDGE.

But

WISDOM is the practical application of accumulated information which brings lasting benefits for it's users.

So think of how what you know is benefitting you along with other adherents around you and globally. If you can't figure that out then it means you'll continue to be bitter inside while denying it before others!

MaxInDHouse:
Just by using a simple logic!

THEORIES
PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS
BENEFITS

Whatever your religion teaches are just like theories found in the textbooks so there's no need being pigheaded over what your religion say if not put to practice. Therefore you need to know the practical application of what you were taught to believe as this will help you in getting busy with others who also believe in what you learned.
If after applying what you learned there is no benefits enjoyed by you and your fellow believers then know that everything has been trash from the onset!

That's the simple test to uncover falsehood!

MaxInDHouse:
Why the bitterness all over you?

Simply saying the OP is none of us doesn't mean i or anyone else meant to harm him, it's just a simple way of telling him i know how you feel about the current situation and condition of your people in Africa, but don't misconstrue issues if you want to practice the African religion you're free to do so. Don't claim you've been a lorry driver when you can't even ride a bicycle

As for the bolded, it shows how quickly you run to wrong conclusion about religions without deep thoughts. People don't need to die before entering Paradise because Paradise will be established here on earth not going to some imaginary place!

MaxInDHouse:
I can see you really feel like growing together in the spirit with others around you but it's a pity you're looking for PEACE where you can never find it!

All these religions that people left for the Bible and Qur'an has their roots thousands of years ago even before God called Abraham out from the East.

God's plan is to establish one form of worship that will prove to be the most beneficial to the adherents than all other forms of worship in the world {Isaiah 2:2-4} today where are all the gods that people worshiped before the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob established the Israelites as a nation? Well all those gods has been completely silenced, they're now disguising as angels of light as they're gathering worshipers afresh in the name of Jesus! 2Corinthians 11:14

You will notice so many different religious settings where people are claiming Christians but if you carefully study them closely you will grasp that it's those spirits people worshiped in ancient times like
Osun, Obatala, Ògùn, Sango, and many others that your black brothers are worshipping today in the name of Christianity!
When worshipers put on white garments and goes about barefooted, when you see worshipers calling down fire and thunder on their enemies, when you see women dressed without jewelries, when you see worshipers always going to the rivers to birth, when you see them having different codes yet claiming they belong to one Jesus know today that it's those spirits they're trying to abandon that has taken them unaware!

So calm down and learn from true Christians what is happening in the spiritual realms!

MaxInDHouse:
The Nairaland platform today gets more traffic on the religion section than any other, so that means even when the owner doesn't believe in God he still enjoy the company of those who do!
Let him shut down the religious section and see how much he'll be making without religionists on his forum!

As for slavery, it's your black brothers who were dealing with white slave traders that made slavery a money making venture. So don't blame that on any religion!

Your black ancestors who usually sell off their black brothers and sisters to slave traders never worshiped the white god, they were worshipers of their own black gods. Please let that sink into your empty skull!

So if we're now talking about the form of worship that appeals to each individual it has nothing to do with what people in ancient times does for a living, whites and blacks deal in slave trade.

And as for Jesus well he was a Jew who preached and taught people how to form a global family of peace loving worshipers and that global family is here today, there is no god whether white or black that has succeeded in bringing people from different races under one umbrella and taking away weapons out of their hands so that they now embrace one another like brothers and sisters except the God that sent Jesus of Nazareth to counsel people.

So you need Jesus to be wise and come out of the foolishness that racism brought upon you!

Nuttella:
Why are you crying more than the bereaved, I see tears all over your post. Did a Christian steal your wife?

MaxInDHouse:
Your article would have made a lot of sense to me without the highlighted!

Just say you want to appeal to adherents of none African religions, but as for Christians you're never one of us!

MaxInDHouse:
Your article would have made a lot of sense to me without the highlighted!

Just say you want to appeal to adherents of none African religions, but as for Christians you're never one of us!

macof:


Ifá practice does not include human sacrifice. There's no tangible evidence or example of this

And there are no demons in Yorùbá beliefs. The closest thing to that are Ajogún spirits like death, sickness, poverty
Which can even be explained away as abstract personifications. And the point of Ifa is to protect against these ajogún.. So what nonsense are you saying exactly?

Ideadoctor:
there are two ancient Bible manuscript that were discovered lately, and fortunately, it is the exact copy of the one we used today, king James translated the Bible from Latin to English, he did not rewrite, nor did he tamper with the contents.

As far as I am concerned Christmas is the day of birth of Jesus, and in as much as my conscience bear me witness to it,then it doesn't matter.

Abohboy:


Jesus this Jesus that the myth of Jesus was created from the Greek pagan god serapis in 325AD go and learn some history. Ifa does not contain human sacrifice, human sacrifice in ifa is taboo and outlawed. There are no demons in ifa but there are ajogun which come in many different forms including as viruses. Ifa is a great science and art I agree with you but it is also a great religion and spirituality. Jesus cannot and will never help you. If Jesus cared for us blacks he wouldn’t have allowed us to be taken away in the slave trade. But it was ifa or what evolved into the Caribbean religions which helped the Haitians to gain “supernatural” powers as some witnesses stated to overcome the French.

Obalufon:
Nothing like human sacrifice in Yoruba religion, It was concocted by Christians to demonize our revered religion a murderer or anyone commit a treasonable crime will executed at the shrine of Ogun ..is a taboo to split blood without appease Ogun to ward off such evil act repeating its self again

Ideadoctor:
as I said earlier we have heresy in churches, worshipping of saints and dead people is the heresy of the Catholic church, the Bible never instruct us to worship dead people.

I will like to give you an advice, if you want to argue Christianity with me, don't pick weakness from churches, pick weakness from the Bible, I don't follow doctrine of churches, I follow only what the Bible says.

Christmas to me is the day the Lord Jesus was born, that is my belief and my faith,any other meaning attached to it is what Christmas is to that person, if you consider it a pagan day,then to you it is a pagan day,and if you consider it the day of birth of Jesus, then it is to you as you believe.

Abohboy:


Jesus this Jesus that the myth of Jesus was created from the Greek pagan god serapis in 325AD go and learn some history. Ifa does not contain human sacrifice, human sacrifice in ifa is taboo and outlawed. There are no demons in ifa but there are ajogun which come in many different forms including as viruses. Ifa is a great science and art I agree with you but it is also a great religion and spirituality. Jesus cannot and will never help you. If Jesus cared for us blacks he wouldn’t have allowed us to be taken away in the slave trade. But it was ifa or what evolved into the Caribbean religions which helped the Haitians to gain “supernatural” powers as some witnesses stated to overcome the French.