Why the attempt to tie the matter to Liverpool?

helinues:
Pure lies

All Igbo's are billionaires

I refuse to believe the lie too.

As far as I know, they are all billionaires there.

DaddyCoool:


You are still doubling down on your nonsense.
Google pay of a college lecturer in US then compare it to the salary of a US senator.
Then compare to the outrageous ridiculousity below

A state public college/university or a privately funded Ivy league University?

You want to convince yourself that a professor at Havard is a civil servant?

Are you a clown or what?

You think the school teachers at BIS, Meadow Hall and Greensprings, and that fancy school that just opened in Lagos, do not earn more than your most senior civil servants and public university professors?

Why not show us the salary of a public school principal in the US, or a fire Service or Prison/Correctional Service head?

How many of the top civil servants in US still earn way less than the US private sector, while mere political appointees in the white house are earning more than these professors of yours?

Exactly same scenario on the payslip we are debating.

Senior Civil Servants in Nigeria earning N400k to N600k monthly in 2022, while a political appointee at that same 2022 was earning about N1m monthly in a country where some entry level Engineers in the private oil industry were earning N1.5m as at 2010, with some experienced Engineers already earning circa N3m as at 2011?

DaddyCoool:


You are still doubling down on your nonsense.
Google pay of a college lecturer in US then compare it to the salary of a US senator.
Then compare to the outrageous ridiculousity below

See below.

hmohammed:


If you earn poorly, then sorry. The reality is that many people earn well in this country

It is always difficult when you try to let them know things even from your own personal experience in a bid to show them it is not a fable.

They end up getting angry and claim you are boasting.

This is why many who earn well are always quiet about their real financial status and blend in with the suffering masses.

DaddyCoool:


Stop confusing yourself. There is no such thing as "political service" that is different from "civil service". They are all PUBLIC SERVANTS and there pays are commensurate.
See below, pay of a US senator compared to an FBI director

tctrills:

I am not comparing a professor with any of the professions you mentioned above. It seems you are not aware of the present topic.
Please compare a professor to a political appointee not an experienced finance consultant.
Or someone in the private world. We are talking about being who the tax payers pay. Hope you get it now?

cococandy:
They are public servants. Their pay should correlate with public service as well.

And if it’s not outrageous for the economy seeing as everything is expensive now, then that means public servants need to be paid better as well.

If the same problem exists in the USA and so what?

Do you think regular Americans are not fighting everyday for better pay and benefits ?

I don’t understand this “logic”

hegelian:

Why defend g something that we know to be so wrong.. So because it's a political appointment and for a short term, it means it should earn more than a level 16 or level 17 director.. Why do we always like defending our oppressors or must we defend everything cos we benefit from it

See below the pay for Trump regime white house employees.

Ranging from advisers to assistants.

How many university professors or civil servants who have spent 20years or more on their jobs, earn that much for a 4year or less political role?


https://cdn.govexec.com/media/gbc/docs/pdfs_edit/070317whsalaries.html

cococandy:
They are public servants. Their pay should correlate with public service as well.

And if it’s not outrageous for the economy seeing as everything is expensive now, then that means public servants need to be paid better as well.

If the same problem exists in the USA and so what?

Do you think regular Americans are not fighting everyday for better pay and benefits ?

I don’t understand this “logic”

You know the problem with Nigeria?

Everyone thinks the actual pay for political offices that they foolishly term as outrageous, is the reason why the citizenry are suffering.

A hypocrite friend of mine who makes close to $10k monthly, is always yapping about the salary of Nigerian politicians.

I have asked him if he would quit his job to go take up such a political role for the same pay he is always criticising, without any proceeds from corruption.

He is yet to give me a reply, but continue to yap about aimlessly.

I repeat again, why will I criticise the political salary that is not even up to entry level pay in some top private corporations that some Nigerians work for in this same national economy?

DaddyCoool:


This is BLATANTLY FALSE!!!

Someone put up here the salary of political roles in the US, all above $150k per annum.

Please tell how many civil servants in that same USA make $70k per annum?

tctrills:

Is that reason why it should be more than the salary of a professor?
Trust me, there are people out there that will do a better job for 150,000 a month. More qualified people.

Who ever declared a professor must earn more than an entry level tech professional or top law firm entry level lawyer, not to talk of an experienced attorney or experienced finance consultant who has been made partner?

The scenario above is even in the so called saner climes of USA.

cococandy:
I don’t even understand this comparison. They don’t eat in dollars. Why comparing your tax to what they earn?

They are Nigerians in Nigeria. Their pay needs to be comparable to what Nigerians in Nigeria make in naira.

Be careful when you say what Nigerians in Nigeria make in Naira.

Stop confusing the obviously suffering civil service to what the private corporations pay.

Even in the US, political salary compares more with the private industry pay, and not with American civil service pay, despite that both civil service and private industry derive their pay from the same minimum wage as it is in Nigeria also.

Entry level salary at ExxonMobil for Engineers as at 2010, was about N1.5m in this same Nigeria.

That was about $10k monthly at the rate then.

I was at an NNPC interview in 2011, when a guy from Shell who applied for an experienced hire role, declared his salary as N2.5m

There was a time when mid level telecoms personnel were earning between N1.5m to N3m circa 2007.

The problem you have with Nigeria political office pay versus civil service pay, also exist in the US.

Your true comparison should be if such pay is outrageous for that economy.

The answer is hell No!

DaddyCoool:





WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!!
Go to any reasonable country, salary of "special assistant" is commensurate to salary of other govt workers!
See the outrageous nonsense we have below. Instead of seriously working towards a revolution you are here carping nonsense

Daddy Cool down.

What you have shown should not be allowed in terms of how the budget of the National Assembly has continued to grow while the minimum wage has stagnated.

However, you cannot blame some of us for not seeing anything scandalous about a salary that an OND graduate will earn in Total.

Yes, compared to the civil service that salary is way higher, but political service and civil service have never had the same pay structure and will never have.

What should not be allowed is having the political class easily adjust their own pay to cater for inflation, while doing nothing significant about minimum wage.

givedemwotowoto:


How much Trump’s former senior special adviser Oma Rosa earning? $175,000

That was the average salary of a software engineer or medical doctor

Politicians in Nigeria earn too much and this is absurd for the useless job they do

Agbadorians like you who should know better just keep on enabling them

$175k is average salary in America?

Who is deceiving this one.

It is not even average salary in ICT not to talk about American civil service.

That is a very top executive salary equivalent to working in senior roles with ExxonMobil or Total or NLNG in Nigeria.

So if the Trump regime was paying $175k to any political jobber, when a teacher or senior police chief in America is not even seeing $80k in a year, then you have only shown that political roles rake in more money well beyond minimum wage.

Only top law firms and technology firms will pay anything close to that for a very top brain. Nothing average salary about that amount.

That amount is 3years salary if talking about average pay for those doing well, while it is 2years salary for top earners below management cadre.

IrepChrist:
He could have called the Chairman personally. If he doing it in good faith. That's okay

You think that hasn't happened since 2018 when it was discovered?

Many exceedingly rich bank MDs are candidates for prison.

Since the 1980s, bank executives have made their wealth from one fraud or the other.

chatinent:
Can we remember who killed Funsho Williams?


Or let's do it this way. Read this excerpt from Eedris' song:



So who killed Funsho Williams?

Question for PDP to answer.

LegendHero:
Woke Soyinka, the first African and only Nigerian man with a Nobel laureate in literature.

Thanks to President Tinubu for recognizing a true patriot.

A true national hero.

Even the shameless youth are still waiting on oldies like Soyinka to come and lead protest for them.

LegendHero:


Omo this one hit me, I no even sabi wetin to type.

I have a question tho, are you a FG or state employed civil servant? I know many states operate a different adjustment compared to the FG own.

While not doubting him, can his statement be statistically true if there is a minimum wage increment from N18k to N30k, and his own salary would only increase from N51k to N59k?

AmiableMosquito:
and sorry to say but I put it to you that except your parents were thieves with access to public funds, there is no way they would have earned over 100k pre 2007. Both of my parents were also career civil servants who spent 35 years in the federal civil service and rose to positions of deputy directors before retirement. I still have my mum's payslips in my possession. We can compare notes. Cheers!

Hahahahahaha!

If that my parent was a thief, I would have had a better life growing up, beyond not just suffering.

Unfortunately, I do not have access to the payslips, but the monthly pay was certainly between N100k and N150k.

youngestgrad:

Just Stop with the bragging, we are talking of percentages here, how many Nigerians graduates with suitable qualifications are earning a quarter of that amount in a month. You just want the whole Nairaland to know u earn high in your privileged private sector job. Congrats

The real problem is people pretending that everyone is suffering.

Infact they want everyone to suffer and are unhappy over a mere living wage as though it was something scandalous.

No! I am not even earning enough. Those sport stars who earn £350k per week, and the entertainment stars who are raking in millions of dollars every year and with a body of work that will continue to make them money for their successive generations until the end of the world, they have the same 24hours in a day as me and you.

Those are the ones who can brag.

hegelian:

A political appointee is coming to serve, a civil servant is working, you can't compare the two.. A level 17 earn around 400k and an ordinary SA is earning x2 of that, why then won't there be rush to want the position not because they wanna serve but cos of the perks

Do you remember what happened when Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, was asked to serve as a Minister by the Obasanjo regime?

She said she already had a job that was providing a certain quality of life for her and her family, so unless Nigeria can match what she was already earning, she cannot take the job of a minister over the one she already had at the World Bank.

LegendHero:


You are correct. There are other hidden details that the table I showed won’t reveal. That is just the basic salary itself for the level.

Even if with all the allowance and etc, I’m not sure it will shoot the value up to 12m and that is what Bashir earned annually back then.

But since it’s a political grade, no need for comparison.

I certainly am aware there are hidden details owing to my parent's payslip.

If only I could lay hold of it and show it here after redacting personal details.

I am certain the basic salary component was not up to 70% of the over N100k that was the monthly earning then at about grade 13.

If anyone is claiming that civil servants earn this or that, just ask them to show you the actual payslip to see the true monthly earning.

What was quite alarming for me then was when I realised that even that salary level that took over 20years to attain was below the entry level pay for the Engineers that were being recruited at the telecoms companies, while oil firms like Chevron were already paying entry level staff at over N500k then.

I think Nigerians should get a grip of themselves.

There is need to reduce waste occasioned by multiple political appointees, but nothing out of place with that salary.

LegendHero:


Lol no mind these guys. Poverty don destroy their brain so they think 850k is much for an SA at that level.

I am even surprised it is that low. So these guys are earning roughly what I pay bi-weekly for state tax alone?

I see why Nigeria is corrupt now. From this amount, some constituents will ask him for money, people will bring their problem to him, and then the guy will now have incentive to steal more.

I’m curious about his CONPSS grade/level. It’s not clear how they wrote that GL 33 or maybe na me no understand.

I believe that grade is a political grade different from the regular grade 1 to 17.

I have a problem with the table you attached.

A grade 1 at N360k annual suggest it is N30k per month.

Is that not the current minimum wage of N30k?

Is that amount not just the basic salary, without the bonuses and allowances?

Can we have the actual data that shows the allowances like housing, vacation, feeding etc.

I know these civil servants like hiding these details.

A grade 17 step 9, earn more than this annual basic of N6.2m.

hegelian:

A political appointee is coming to serve, a civil servant is working, you can't compare the two.. A level 17 earn around 400k and an ordinary SA is earning x2 of that, why then won't there be rush to want the position not because they wanna serve but cos of the perks

Stop all these lies.

The level 17 has much more earned than the N400k. They also have termination benefits that a short term political appointee does not have. In fact, a mere review of the actual payslip will tell you otherwise that a level 17 earn more than that N400k.

Even in the private sector, I have been opportuned to employ short term consultants who were earning more than me on a salary that I determined for them based on what was obtainable in the industry, after careful consideration that they were to cater fully for themselves and families with that singular monthly salary.

Even within my team, I know some permanent staff are so wicked and shortsighted that they will never allow such consultants earn more than them.

In this same Nigeria that many are lamenting like poverty is the air everyone breathes, there are consultants who earn over $1000 everyday of work for contracts that could run into 3 or 5years.

hegelian:


You begin to wonder why we always enjoy defending g the very people we are suppose to unite and call to order.. They don't even need to defend themselves cos there are plenty of slaves ready to defend them against common sense.. If ordinary SA warn abeg why won't anyone lick ass just to be given SA job cos of its lucrativity...

The problem is poverty has made many hate progress.

Exactly like you are now.

Imagine the pittance you talking about.

Ordinary entry level graduate earn up to that in many high performing industries.

Nigerians should stop lying to themselves that everyone is earning a pittance.

The only problem with Nigeria is that those who earn well, do so just to pour the money in a foreign economy, either by way of further foreign education for themselves, or foreign education for their children, or family relocation abroad. All with the money made in Nigeria as the lucky ones with a well paying job.

And the lucky ones are not few.

DeLaRue:


A net salary of about N850,000 is not excessive for Special Assistant.

Salaries are so low across many sectors in this country.

The argument is that a professor is earning N250k etc.

Tell those lying doctors and professors to show you their actual payslip, and you will be surprised at all manner of jumbo bonuses that dwarf their claims.

If my senior civil servant parent was already earning over N100k during the Obasanjo regime with minimum wage at about N7500, how would the professors not earn so much more with current minimum wage at N30k?

Is this supposed to be scandalous?

A short term employment that we already know is remunerated higher than the regular civil service?

I still do not understand why many Nigerians lie to themselves about the actual pay of political persons being high, when many entry level roles in the private corporations in this same country pay up to that and more than that in some instances.

I can never quit my private sector job to go earn all this chicken change in the public or political service that many will still hate you because they think it is this small salary that is making them to suffer.

Tackle the real financial wastes and there will be more to go round to have a living wage like this one for all government workers.

Everyone knows the amount demanded is unrealistic, but it is necessary to jolt the government and organized private sector out of their inertia.

N120K would be more reasonable.

There is no political undertone to ensure that Nigerians earn enough to cater for their needs within the current economy.

N100k, but if the labour unions can hold out for a N120k agreement, it would be a great accomplishment.

Labour must not accept anything less than N100k.

A country that can spend N90b on pilgrimage, knowing well that it is broke, should not be pitied in any way.

Let the payment make the country so broke that it would get its priorities right.

This is a very selfish and irresponsible statement from MURIC.

Validated:

As the GIANT of Africa, we should take the lead.
See even Congo is smarter than Emilokan crooner

We should also identify since when these countries have had such minimum wages.

Could it be we have been so bad compared to our African neighbours since the time of President Obasanjo, and we are expecting a sudden upward swing to correct this?

As some have also opined, what is the purchasing value of those sums in the respective countries?

Also, what is the per capita GDP of those countries with less production than Nigeria, but also extremely less population to cater for?