^^^^

Are you a student in Ife?

Carolece:

Friendships and relationships should not be bought.

In your case, I understand


However, for pretty people, someone needs to pay for their up-keep

^^^^
Obviously she is not doing a good job, reason why SEFAGO wants her job
She is utterly incompetent, and the rate at which she bans dissenting view is worrisome

Someone with a better understanding of the complex Nigerian society would do a better job than her.
I have nothing against her. She is just incompetent!

Kobojunkie:

[size=18pt]I hope no one I know falls in to such a death[/size]. I mean this is just bad.

I think this statement is worse than the killer manhole!

Bump!

HE Jews taught mankind about the existence of God. After this discovery of God, God in His infinite mercies made effective use of most of the prophets of the Jews. These prophets performed miraculous feats such as: healing, raising of the dead, cursing, prophecies and going to heaven by a whirlwind. It is pertinent to note that one of these prophets prophesied about the destruction of Jerusalem and the coming of "The Lord Our Righteousness," "our Lord Jesus Christ,’ a priest forever after the order of "Melchisedec."

Prophet Jeremiah Hilkiah, who was dubbed. "The weeping prophet," became a laughing-stock to the Jews, when he prophesied about the destruction of Jerusalem and the seventy years captivity in Babylon. Then he told the Jews, "if you will return, O Isreal, said the Lord, return unto me: and if you will put away your abominations out of my sight, then shall you not be removed." What later happened to Jerusalem and the Jews was a clear case manifestation of the stance of the Jews of that era.

In a similar vein, Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo, the advocate of federalism, free education, free health services, full employment opportunities etc. was dubbed by Nigerians, "the prophet of doom," when he was alive. To some Nigerians then, he was a tribal leader; he was a man who had divergent views; he was a conformist of the highest order as regards his views on how to move Nigeria forward.

On the other hand, when Chief Awolowo died, the encomiums and eulogies Nigerians poured on him would elicit the envy of great leaders such as: Abraham Lincoln and Winston Churchill. For instance, such eulogies include the following: "our king whom we have either by omission or commission failed to crown, "a Nigerian who combined a great philosophical intellect with practical expertise, "Chief Awo was an erudite philosopher known particularly for his advocacy of federalism and one of the founder of modern day Nigeria; "a great leader, the great source of inspiration, the greatest thinker of our time who has changed place. His works and his thoughts live on to be a guiding light to this and future generations. We will always remember him; "papa was without doubt the best president that Nigeria never had. With the passing away of Chief Awolowo, Nigeria will never be the same again’; an irreparable loss to his family the Yorubas, all Nigerians and all Africans. The Nigerian political scene will never be the same again. The end of an era."

Accordingly, the implication is that Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo was a great thinker, teacher, prophet and leader who would have helped to transform Nigeria, if he had not been misunderstood. The truth is that the "African sage" was ahead of his contemporaries. This finds expression in the fact that "western Nigeria" which he ruled was ahead of other regions in terms of infrastructures, investments and educational advancement. Again, it is said that without his prudent financial management during the Nigeria civil war, Nigeria would have been in debt at that point in time. It is also said that he was the first Nigerian to resign his appointments in a military regime both as a minister and a member of the federal executive council, the highest ruling body, at that point in time.

As a prophet, his predictions could be said to be both divine inspiration and intelligent guesses and educated deductions from the contemporary socio-political happenings of his era. For instance, as an advocate of federalism, his stance on federalism must have been spurred on by the fact that Nigeria has the features that necessitate federalism. Besides, the "black sage’ knew that western Nigeria made great strides when he was a premier because of the federal structures in place then. Today, we have many advocates; some want "Sovereign National Conference," while others want "Resource Control." Our leaders do not seem to realize that if federalism is entrenched in our polity effectively and efficiently, taking into consideration all the necessary stipulations and modalities governing the application of federalism, all these advocacies and cries of marginalisation would evaporate. Today, although we have a federal constitution and we call our nation "Federal Republic of Nigeria," in practice, we could be called "Unitary Republic of Nigeria," in practice, we could be called "Unitary Republic of Nigeria," no thanks to the military incursion into our polity.

Furthermore, Prophet Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo seemed to have shared certain attributes with Prophet Jeremiah Hilkiah. Both of them did not only prophesy about what would happen in the future, but also showed the ways on how to avoid the calamitous consequences embedded in their prophecies. Both of them might have been dubbed "Prophets of Doom" by their temporaries. Again, both of them might have been dubbed "the weeping prophets." In the case of Prophet Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo, it is on record that he was the first Nigerian who cried out that the "North" being uneducated would not augur well for Nigeria. Today, most "Northern leaders of thoughts" are beginning to understand that fact. Yes, he could be called a weeping prophet. Prophet Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo must have wept after the 1983 presidential election." I may be wrong, I want to be put right. Is it not on record that he said that with the 1983 electoral verdict, Nigerians had rejected democracy? It has been said that a leading authority is anyone who has guessed right more than once. To the best of my understanding, Prophet Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo guessed right more than once. Also, it is said that some people, especially his political opponents in Yoruba land are under a curse, no thanks to their betrayal of his personality and philosophy.

In this connection, it is apposite to emphasize and point out that the "Yoruba Race," just like very other race of the "black race" makes effective use of "curses" when dealing with perceived enemies. A cursory look at history reveals that right from the era of Oduduwa till the present time, such curses were used and are still being used in Yorubaland. It is pertinent to note that such curses have disastrous effects on the well being of the Yorubas, nay, Nigerians. A man comprises a body and a spirit. When a man is wronged, and he cries out, and his cries reach his spirit, whatever he says has divine implications. In Yorubaland, those whose curses tend to have divine implications are those placed in position of authority, whose spirits are wronged. They include kings and leaders of thoughts.

An example of these curses was that of Prophet Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo meted out to Chief MKO Abiola. During the 1979 presidential election, it was rumoured that Chief MKO Abiola fought assiduously against Pa Awo’s presidential bid. This fight was not unconnected to the promise made to Chief Abiola by the National Party of Nigeria (NPN), the party that later emerged victorious. NPN promised Chief MKO Abiola the presidency of Nigeria. It was also rumoured that Chief MKO Abiola financed NPN at the initial stage. Among the Yorubas, there is a rumour gaining ground that Prophet Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo swore at Chief MKO Abiola that although Chief MKO Abiola would be given the "Nigeria Presidential seat," he (Abiola) would not sit on it. All these could be seen as rumours, but remember, "no smoke without fire."

Today, Nigerians are in a better position to ascertain the significance of Prophet Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo’s purported statement as it affects the "June 12 presidential election" and its subsequent annulment. That Chief MKO Abiola won the June 12 presidential election and was not allowed to rule showed that Prophet Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo’s purported "curse" was prophetic.

However, although June 12 was not materialized, it seems to be the fundamental framework upon which the present democratic structures are laid. The author of June 12 and its subsequent annulment, General Ibrahim Badamasi Babangida (rtd) would always see "June 12" as a mystery. The mistake he made was that he allowed Chief MKO Abiola to contest that election. Had he disqualified Chief MKO Abiola as he disqualified Chief Emeka Odumegwu Ojukwu, Eze Ndi-Igbo, the June 12 presidential election would not have been stalemated. As the pivot of that political process, IBB said that he was profoundly sensitive to the unpleasant and regrettable but wholly unintended consequences. The implication is that IBB did not know that the June 12 election would end the way it did. I am not trying to exonerate IBB from blame. What I am trying to establish is that the soul of a nation can best be found in the lives of its great leaders. IBB accepts responsibility for engineering the Nigeria within which we now live. If we were to analyze critically the contemporary happenings in Nigeria since June 12, 1993, we would come to term with the fact General I.B. Babangida (rtd) really did some political engineering, or do we say, is still doing some political re-engineering!

Finally, according to Tam David-West, if you want to contribute, you reduce intellectualism and utopia to practicability and tangibility, because intellectualism without practicability is prostitution. In this connection, it is apposite to emphasize and point out, that based on the contemporary history of our country, I am made bold to say that the June 12 presidential election was annulled because the winner, Chief MKO Abiola, was under a curse meted out to him by Prophet Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo. Moreover, it is high time we stopped apportioning blame to "selected individuals" as being instrumental to the present state of Nigeria because as a people, we have committed political, social and economic euthanasia by our pachydermatous attitude towards development. There is also need for true national reconciliation in every nook and cranny in Nigeria; this will necessitate the effective translation of the vision and gains of true federalism and democracy into reality because everything changes except the law of change.

viruz007:

strangerf na wa to u o. Lol, Bt hw tru is your info on dem lag babes?hehehe

My uncle just came back from Naija!

SEFAGO:

Igbo people wanna jack our swagger

But no one can get our swagger

Another reason why I think you should be a mod

We need to shot those goons down!

doyin13:

can someone get strangerf, omongbati, dede1 and sunny-bobo  a room please.

So they can sleep with themselves silly. 

Please ooooooooo


Ileke Idi and I in the same room.      .     .      Awesome! Good these will happen
Omo oniigbati, dede and sunny and I.    .   .  .   .  Never.   I reject bad luck. God forbid!

eku_bear:

Is it me, or is this true?
I went to a dancy party yesterday in my village in Ekiti. It seemed to me that the average "hotness" levels of the girls at this party was noticably higher than that of your typical naija party in the US. Most of these girls live in Lagos, Ibadan, Akure, cities like that in the SW.
So is this just some sort of coincidence, or actually something you guys have noticed too?
Hopefully I can do new year's eve in Lagos and find out more, lol 

Good for you
I dont think so though

On a side note, I heard the going rate for a one night stand is around 1000 naira for college girls (OAU and Lag). how much do you pay those in Ekiti?
Just wanna know!

In medicine, things get a lil better before they get really worse.

The end is near for the Eze gburu gburu of NDI ped*ophiles!

akoraye:

i dnt know why we like deceiving ourselves,is heaven a mango tree that smbdy can jump down frm? oduduwa!!!

I dont blame you

After kicking your arse several times, you still no wan respect us

Oloshi radarada

No go better for you and your Ogunsua!

oyinda.:

what about your alter ego sefago? hehn?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAha

You would have to ask him!


BTW, nice set of teeth!

@Oyinda

Very smart of you

my justise moniker was banned, yet AGAIN

oyinda.:

what's it with these small boys of nowadays. do you guys not sleep?

NAh, trying to defend my pride!

Would not allow these Ibos to rubbish my people's achievements and ingenuity!

Ochi_Agha:

I would go that far if I was you. Ancient Kemet (Egypt) put Africa on the map, followed by Nubia and the ancient kingdom of Axum. A few kingdoms and empires that are the oldest in the world. And that was one person's view. Historians like to exaggerate from time to time. Do not get me wrong, the Ife sculptures are one of a kind. But to say that they put Africa on the map is quite laughable.

Glad we agreed on something!

Ochi_Agha:

You are actually wrong. Igbo-Ukwu is older than both Ife and Benin.

"The archaeological site at Igbo-Ukwu in modern-day Nigeria offers us great insight into the history of the country. The most critical of these contributions lay in the radiocarbon date for the artefacts from Igbo-Ukwu, the ninth-century CE, and the association of the artefacts with an extinct Igbo group, the Nri, and the expression of the artistic magnificence and technological skill related with the finds.[b] Since the above date made Igbo-Ukwu about three or four centuries earlier than the date established for Ife and Benin. [/b]In any case, it is clear from available evidence that the [b]Nri type of state that assembled the material culture recovered from Igbo-Ukwu is older than the Ife or Benin or Idah type of state in these parts. [/b]From the study of the archaeological remains, it became apparent not only that the Benin and Ife bronzes have little in common, but that the bronzes of Igbo-Ukwu, as well as others of the Benue valley, are independent of both Ife and Benin in style, notion, and implementation."

http://archaeologycurrentevents.com/archaeological-sites-igboukwu-4613585a

I don't think so

Ochi_Agha:

I do not mean any disrespect. However, compared to both the Igbo and Ife sculptures, Benin was in a league of its own. I have always been in awe of what the Benin Empire was able to accomplish. And this is from an unbiased perspective. I just love everything about ancient Benin Culture. I have this same respect for the Asante Confederacy as well and the Sokoto Caliphate.

This is what an independent observer had to say:

Ife: The naturalistic works of sculpture created by the artists of the city of Ife,
which arose in the southwestern forested part of Nigeria about 800 CE,
are among the most remarkable in art history.

Not just in Africa, but in history. FYI, Ife arts rivaled that of the Greeks. Simply stated, we put Africa on the map of the world!

Ochi_Agha:

What I like the best are actually the Benin Bronze sculptures. I think these are truly works of art!

Please put everything into context

I love modern airplanes, but I have nothing but absolute respect for the Wright brothers, they are the REAL geniuses that started it all.

Same can be said about the Yorubas. As the documentary showed, the Yorubas exported their technology to other parts of Africa, including Benin.

Ochi_Agha:

Very nice video! But why the one-upmanship? Yoruba culture should be celebrated, but that does not mean it superior to other cultures. Igbos have famous Igbo-Ukwu roped pots, which were created by the earliest smithers of copper and its alloys in West Africa.

Yeah, but that was developed years after Ife head was discovered, and according to oral tradition, prior to Yoruba art, there was nothing of that quality and ingenuity in Africa. There is no doubt that whatever the Igbos and Benins achieved, it was done with the help and tutelage of the Yorubas. Now, that does not necessarily make them superior, but it is something to think about

You really cannot compare 14th century BC creation to  9th century AD creation, can you?

Ileke-IdI:

Lemme help with that.

[flash=400,400]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS-59lMs03s?fs=1&hl=en_US[/flash]

Thanks!
Cant stop watching it
Very condescending of those Oyinbos

Dede1:


The last time I checked though, the object known as “Chain” is very earthly. Does this suggest Oduduwa fairy tale was another conjectural crap from that part of universe?

An example of my people's ingenuity:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS-59lMs03s

Dede1:

No, I do not care to elaborate because I made an educated guess. You and your forbearers are the prognosticators of the foolish fairy tale about Oduduwa’s midnight escape from a jail in hell. You are so out of touch to insinuate a figure that landed head first had better surviving chance than the one that land leg first.

Well the skull, and especially the temple area, is way stronger than any other bone in the body.
If he landed head first as you foolishly postulated, Ibo style, he prolly landed on his temple area; hence, his greater chance at survival than your idioti fore father who out of ignorance, Which he seems to have bequeathed you, landed leg first.

Moreover, unlike your nincompoop fore father who jumped from heaven after escaping from jail , Oduduwa came down via chain let down

Dede1:


This same way Oduduwa escaped from jail in hell and landed head first but slightly different for Eri and Nnamaku.

Legend has it that he actually Descended from the heavens via a chain let down to Ile Ife, very smart man

Oduduwa was not like the arrogant mofo of yours Eri and Nnamaku who jumped down from heaven, got paralyzed, and had to be helped up by strong Yoruba offspring of Oduduwa

So what is the link between the crises in Jos and your clamor for SNC?

Dede1:


This same way Oduduwa escaped from jail in hell and landed head first but slightly different for Eri and Nnamaku.

Do you care to elaborate?
He must have landed leg first, resulting in paralysis
Could that be the reason why we did not hear much about him?

You must have attended "Eleweeran Primary School"

The myth of Igbo evolution
By ONWUKWE ALAEZI
Monday, April 6, 2009


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This is a reaction to the article titled “Igbo were on Earth before Adam was created” by Professor Acholonu, published in Saturday SUN dated March 21, 2009 page 38. There is no doubt in my mind that what the Igbos (the Ebos, Igbos or Ibos) of Nigeria need most in their present state of political and socio-economic deprivation and marginalization in the country that they have contributed more than any other ethnic group to build is Professors, intellectuals and the like who will write on the said Igbo problems and the way out, not those like Professor Acholnu writing on Igbo legendry of widest imagination, ridiculously saying that “Igbo were on earth before Adam”;

“Adam was actually the scion of a people who lived before he was made” and that” these people were the progenitors of the Igbo”; Adam was a test tube baby, that Adam was not created but rather recreated; Adam and eve were half earthling, half god; Egypt rather than Israel is the blessed land; the god who created Adam was a Nephilim; Enki mated secretly with the wife of Lamech and Noah was born; and other stuff like that too bizarre and frivolous to occupy the mind of child in a 21st century science and technology driven society talk less of a an intellectual of the highest order. The professor, to prove her case quoted Enuma Elish, an epic story of ancient Babylon and the Lost Book of Enki, This brings to mind the controversial ‘sky-being’ theory of the origin of the Igbo by Professor Afigbo. Professor Afigbo’s legend is that the Igbo fell from the sky and landed in Eastern Nigeria where they have dwelt ever since.

Professor Afigbo’s main argument hinges on the presumptions that Igbo as a Negro race is “a ‘sky being’ for he descended from the sky in the first place” (Afigbo, 2001:24), that “it was during this phase of Igbo experience (i.e., during the universalistic period) that the basic framework of what we know as Igbo culture and civilisation was laid” (p. 25), that “the experience which makes a segment of the migrants of 6000 years ago Igbo was developed in situ in what is today Igboland. It was not brought in by them from wherever…Thus any similarities, real or imagined, found between their experience and the experience of any other population aggregate in any other part of the world is accidental… a fatal blow at the root of the hypothesis of Hebrew origin of the Igbo (p.9).

Actually, the issue of the Hebrew origin of the Igbo is now a known fact; it is not a fairy tale in the moon light like that of the Igbo falling down from the sky to settle on earth or the Igbo being half earthling and half god existing on earth before Adam and even being partakers in getting Adam into existence as a test tube baby. It is a truism that the Jewish origin of the Ibos (Igbos) of Nigeria is as real as the Oduduwa (of ancient Babylon) origin of the Yorubas or the Saudi Arabian origin of the Hausa-Fulanis of Nigeria, without, of course any prejudice to their (the Ibos’) full Nigerian citizenship.

“The ‘history of the history’ of the search for the Lost Tribes of Israel actually makes fascinating reading in itself. The list of candidates is long, particularly since the 17th century, both of groups claiming themselves to be the Lost Tribes and groups identified by travelers or researchers as those Tribes. Some of the better known claims have been: the Ethiopians; the Ibos of Nigeria; the Berbers of North Africa; various Armenian, Afgan, and Persian groups of the Black and Caspian Sea regions; the Chiang-Min of Tibet; the Khazars; and the Karaites.

Researchers have claimed to locate the Tribes all over the globe: the Masai of southeast Africa; the Yemenis; the Abyssinians; the Ganges Indians; the Kareens of Burma; the Shindai tribe of Japan;…”
Every Igbo intellectual interested in self-realization and self-actualization of the Igbo through ancestral cultural awareness should first avail himself with the facts of the Hebrew origin of the Igbo as contained in the above quotation and many more others written by the Jews themselves about the lost tribes of Israel in all the four corners of the earth, including, of course, Nigeria and the Biblically predicted rediscovery and restoration in the last days. Such knowledge will serve as an impetus to the much needed ancestral and cultural awareness of the Ibos – a missing link in the solution of the problem with the Ibos (Igbos) of Nigeria.

T[b]he knowledge of the origin of the Ibos, may not immediately remove the pangs of Igbo living under the psychology and burden of defeat or automatically change the status of Igbo society in identity crisis, socio-cultural disorientations, political paralysis and economic impoverishment, and place them back in their former lead position in politics, education, commerce and industry; but surely it will serve as a major way forward; [/b]as a psychological cushion against which the average Ibos (Igbos) will lean to better understand and then launch themselves as effectively as, if not more effectively than, their counterpart major tribes in Nigeria – the Hausas and Yorubas - into national and international politics, and be on the right track to correctly deal with the above highlighted Ibo nightmare in Nigeria as well as the usual complexities of the country’s socio-economic and political game, in which the Igbo has always been the pitiful loser.

Assuming that the legends of Afigbo and Acholonu stand then it stands to reason that the people being referred to in Afigbo’s work could be the same godlike people who existed before Adam, according Acholonu, people that I believe are just the aborigines of Iboland (normal human beings, not sky beings or half god, half human) - the Allokoo, Ituri, Kwa and Pigmy races with whom the exiled Nigerian Hebrews (Ibos) lived and intermarried on arriving from the Lake Chad area. And, according to Jewish custom, as many of these aborigines as were properly married into the Nigerian Hebrew families and abided by the Jewish customs as practised by the Ibos automatically became Jews too.

The challenge that these narratives pose for all Igbo intellectuals are (1) more research on the origin the Igbo. However, there is none denying the fact that there were aborigines of Ibo nation. Yoruba nation and Hausa/Fulani nation before the different people that now made up the Igbo, the Yoruba and the Hausa migrated from the Middle East. The Yorubas have their own story of Oduduwa descending from ancient Babylon to settle finally in Ife before spreading to the parts of Yorubaland, the Hausas coming from Saudi Arabia to conquer and settle among the aborigines of Northern Nigeria and parts of Western Nigeria.

These aborigines were known for their different legendaries of very wild guess which had no bearing on truth or any verifiable assumption – some said their ancestors together with their wives came from water to inhabit their land; some claimed their ancestors were once spirit beings who lived under the earth but were forced by one strange reason or the other to abandon the spirit world beneath the earth to come and live in their present place of abode; others claimed their ancestors were sky beings or spirits who for some strange reasons landed with thunder and lightening, or quietly with the wind unnoticed to their present places of abode, and so on.

It is not surprising that the Igbo aborigines had their own story of descending to earth from the sky, just like the other aborigines among the other 250 ethnic groups of Nigeria. What is surprising is that Igbo intellectuals should now make their own fairy tale/legendary origin a theme for serious discussion in the present scientific and technological driven age that call for identification and solution of human problems through scientific methods.

If the effort of these intellectuals are on tracing the origin of the Igbo among known people of the world, like the Hausa did among the Saudis, rather than among the gods of the sky or the before Adam creatures or the Amphins of Noah age, I would not be worried. In treating a similar matter just in passing in my book Ibo Exodus, I acknowledged the existence of the aborigines of Igboland, the Allookos, the Ituris and the pigmies many of whom are now extinct or migrated out of the then Ibo nation and pointed out that the remaining few of the aborigines have now been interwoven into the Ebo, Ibo and now Igbo who came with much more advanced knowledge and civilisation from Israel via Egypt to live among them.

The fact that the Nigerian Hebrews (Ebo, Ibo and now Igbo) migrated from Israel into Nigeria to live with and get assimilated into the culture of a group of Negroes who according to their mythology and religious belief fell from the sky and migrated into Southern Nigeria some 6000 years ago (Afigbo, 2001) - a story that all Jews in Judaism and Christianity alike will regard as an anti-scriptural African legendary of wild guess. Such a story is a serious antithesis to the Holy Scriptures of Israel, the Torah and the Bible. To ignore these Holy Scriptures is to ignore or even ignore God, the source, the origin and the fountainhead of all lives on earth.

However, there is the need to re-examine the Afigbo’s story of the Igbo falling from the sky and settling here in Eastern Nigeria origin of fact the aborigines of Igboland, the history of whom people like Acholonu is yet to be properly put in its correct perspective and of whom Afigbo referred to as ‘sky beings’ has been enriched by some words and names, like Ivite (Ivrit), Eri, Asa, Nebo, Nara, Uzzi, Ono, etc., which the exiled Nigerian Hebrews (Ibos) brought with them from Israel some three thousand years ago; and finally the need to further examine the Nigerian Hebrew (Ibo) case in the context of the World Jewry.