most people in EG speak Spain Spanish since it's not their native language.

PAGAN9JA:

Most of them are Nubian and in the border they are Nilotic and Nuba tribes (Kordofan).

The 2 biggest Arab tribes in the North (J'ali and Shaigiyah) are infact of Nubian ancestry. The Shaigiyah infact never spoke Arabic until the 17th Century.

I have friends from both these tribes and ive seen their grandmothers tribal marks. (3 vertical lines) on either cheek. Typical Nubian marks.

and a lot of Mexicans are of Aztec & other native ancestry. it does not change the fact that the government hates non Arab cultures and black features.

axum:



Do you know that Kush, was taken over by Axum for hundreds of years. The Cushitic people ruled what is Kush for hundreds of year even ruling parts of Southern Arabia, that whole area has our DNA meanwhile Bantus were in the jungle just looking at the stars

most of Africa is not even jungle

KidStranglehold:


Agreed.

IMO Dominicans are the new world versions of Sudanese people.

i think the Dominicans are ten times better then NS. the native blacks in dr are not being bombed and some people of mostly african genes became miss DR

[img]http://1.bp..com/-Ix1rKGUtx9Y/UnriBVjq-gI/AAAAAAABSXg/dnCPtdv_AD8/s1600/D+-+Yaritza+Reyes.jpg[/img]

if a person of prominently "black" features becomes miss sudan they would trip balls ababda might think im BSing but miss Egypt got controversy (part of it was because of her being born in the U.S. and the other is the way she looks) for looking like an Egyptian

http://scoopempire.com/sarah-fasha-miss-egypt-2013-revolutionary-beauty-queen/

the mixed Arab north is probably laughing at SS now

KidStranglehold:



I hope you're not indicating that I'm an "Afrocentric". Because its was Northern Sudanese themselves online who told me that most Sudanese people are black. Most the people in your post besides the first pic would be labeled "black" by Western standards, just saying. I'm not saying Sudanese people SHOULD go by Western standards. Also "Afrocentric" is a general term, I have met "Afrocentrics" who have tried to say Sudanese people are mixed breeds or "Arabs", and those are just people who have been mislead by the Western media to think its Arabs vs Blacks, when its much more complicated than that, when the President of Sudan says this:


http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/World_News_3/Sudanese_president_answers_questions_on_Darfur_3474.shtml


As we the situation is much more complex than Arab vs Black, those "Afrocentrics" you speak of are just mislead by the Western media.

it's clear the the "Arab" government favors Arab/Muslim culture over the "black" African cultures in Sudan. even if they are Muslim they still are not arabized
https://www.nairaland.com/1862144/arabization-sudan

and "God" help you if your the naked tribes in nuba & blue nile for clear reasons


https://www.nairaland.com/1791741/nuba-peoples-north-sudan-warning

ababda:


Actually, i am here now, and i did not see thus far any evidence of a active slave market. The situation in Sudan is very different from the Mauritanian reality. Like anywhere in the world, you have a underground, so Sudan is no differences from other parts of the world.

For example this in the western world

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/05/19/modern-day-slavery-america-must-fight-epidemic-human-trafficking-here-at-home/

It is not only a third world issues, it is happening in supposedly developed nations to.

Mauritania is not even hiding it though

Supper:


Funny you mention the Songhai as it was the largest state, whether empirical or democratic, to ever exist on the African continent with land that stretched south into the Savannah at Gao and north into the Sahara with cities like Agadez and Magrebin Taghaza. The Great Askia Muhammad established standardized trade measures and regulations, initiated the policing of trade routes and also established an organized tax system. This was to promote cultural hegemony and homogenize the land, and created a new identity among the elite- the "Songhai people" which really at the time wasn't an ethnic identity but could denote many people of many different ethnic groups living among the elite in Songhai, though I'm pretty sure that the Soninke people were the single largest contributor to the "Songhai identity", with the great Askia of Songhai being a soninke himself. Many people in the Songhai empire were "Songhaized" so to speak, but I don't think rulers like Askia were militantly Pan-African or Pan-Songhaist imposing their identity on different people, as t[b]hey were known for being surprisingly tolerant and liberal of different ethnicities and religions for it's time.[/b]

probably because Islam in that part of Africa is syncretized with African religions

KidStranglehold:


Its ironic because President Bashir himself has what some call "broad" African features! LMAO!!!!

indeed

Lira
[img]http://augustoneverything.files./2014/02/lira-pic.jpg[/img]



I WANNA HUG HER

muafrika:
I know, I just love her,
Besides, Kenyan Luos are heavily mixed with surrounding Luhyas. See her height,

i know you can tell

KidStranglehold:
[b]Most of the population in (Northern)Sudan are black but have become Arabized. [/b]They're still black but are what we call "Afro-Arabs". People use the term "Arab" very loosely as if its a race. Arab is a pan-ethnicity and Arabs do not have a homogeneous origin. Egyptians and Maghrebis are not true Arabs in the sense that they are from the Arabian peninsula. Their just an Arabized people.

more or less. some areas are blacker then other area, the blacker areas (culturally & racially) are hated by the government.

"The more black and African you are, then, the more stigmatized you become. Essential African features become part of this process of stigmatization – thick lips, broad nose, and fuzzy short hair. Other factors are blackness of colour, having an African language, and, lastly, being a non-Muslim. The most stigmatized are those who combine the three factors of physical features, cultural traits and a non-Islamic religious faith, like the majority of Southerners. The Africans of Nuba Mountains and Ingassana come immediately after the Southerners."
https://www.nairaland.com/1862144/arabization-sudan

https://www.nairaland.com/1791741/nuba-peoples-north-sudan-warning

Rafikizolo:


1. Egypt is Arab in the same way that Equatorial-Guinea is a hispanic country, but they are both African. It just happens that one of them speaks Arabic and has a lot of Caucasians of Middle Eastern descent, while the other speaks Spanish and is majority black. This isn't about race, but about representing African cities.

EQ is about as Hispanic as Senegal is french yeah it's there but unlike Egypt, EG people don't speak Spanish as a native tongue like Egypt does Arabic

muafrika:
Lets pause for another Lupita moment...

[img]http://image-cdn.zap2it.com/photogallery/images/zap-golden-globes-2015-red-carpet-photos-20150-075[/img]

she is nilotic

axum:



I didnt use its a race, simply as a group of people, somali isn't a race either. As a matter of fact there is no such thing as a Race, let alone Bantus labeling whoever they want to claim as Black.

there are a lot of Hispanics that are black

ababda:


yeah it is a divide btw North Africa and sub saharan Africa, which is sad in a way. One country could have bridge that divide would had been "Sudan" because it has elements of both regions within her populations, and possibly Mauritania as well. So two countries could had been that bridge of the divide. Oh well.

i don't think their could ever be a "unity" between north and south. they are different racially, culturally, & mentally. and lets not forget the whole racial slavery thing which is still going on in Sudan & Mauritania the slaves should take not from Haiti, Zanzibar and other revolts blacks did

barwaaqo:


Thats interesting as a rich people with so many accomplishments you have to ask why again is the community in shambles?

There is a report it reveals African Americans own 1 percent of total wealth in America but themselves are 14 percent? In 1860, 99% of all African America worked for whites, today, 98% of all Africa Americans work for whites.

There seems to be a big social illusion in that community and no institutions being built to reverse the changes needed. If you guys go to church more that will not help, if you go to the local black college you will end up at McDonalds, if you go to your local Al Sharpton you get another empty promise, if work for whites they will keep all the rights, if you march the street they shoot you and get away with it.

Accomplishments should better the community first what good are they for otherwise?

These issues have not come overnight so when is the moment How long

it's the curse of the black African most nations & or areas with a lot of blacks are junk but still black Americans are "better" then every other black group on the planet which is quit sad, the small Caribbean nations are the only majority black nations in the world that have a "high" development index (except Jamaica which is one big ghetto). i world love to see a black nation as nice as France or U.A.E. but by the time that happens i would be old

axum:



So you admit your not Somali, lmao, Stupid troll.

I see no Somali girls dating Bantus.....All I see is Bantus running after Somali women, Asians, Hispanics and running from Bantu women.

Hispanic is not a race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS58jwxQPFg

Rafikizolo:


You make a good point, but the United States of America's ruling class has always been white anglo-saxons who forged their own identity in North America. If Africa were to become a country tomorrow (conflicts aside) there would be no ruling class. What culture would predominate in this new nation? "Nigerians" would be about 1 out of every 4 people in that new nation. Would that automatically mean that Nigerian/broader West African culture would be adopted by everyone else? I know many people in sub-saharan states would riot, so I would hate to imagine the north.

the Caucasian north would probably be the ruling class

cool pics

axum:



That lady is a mother with several kids. She still looks beautiful, she me a Bantu with kids who looks beautiful

even without the kids somalis don't put on pounds well. Somalis only look nice skinny IMO.

KenyanLady:
Axum hate women like these naturally beautiful Somali women.


Now let me stop right here, I am getting jealous.

somalis don't put on weight well

Radoillo:
Fulani and Touareg built Mali andSonghai and Ghana. LOL. Troll on, dude.

I need you to tell me 'Hamites' also[b] built the stone structures of Great Zimbabwe, created the naturalistic sculptures of Ife, the earthmounds around Benin City,[/b] etc.

that or greeks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI1XF-AcuhY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4InH7_Xzkzo

axum:



but their DNA shows they are not the oldest. Same thing with linguistics.

true but they do have some of the oldest DNA, giving that a some of the oromo have similar features it is safe to assume that they were in other parts of ethiopia at one point.



the oldest people in east Africa are the hadza

axum:



Why do people in North Africa, Europe, Arabia have E1b1b which is found overwhelmingly in the Horn?

Science, linguistics, fossil evidence shows that Ethiopia is the cradle of civilization my friend.

Everyone left the horn and adapted to their climate.

So? the omotic tribes have some of the highest ancient hunter & gather genes in the horn

axum:



Everyone defended from us. Am glad Somalis dont use Afro anymore, Bantus steal everthing.

This Cushitic woman pawns all Bantus, she is naturally beauty with her natural hair, unlike Bantus wearing weaves.

no the original humans most likely had Afro hair.

axum:


Somalis invented the Afro before Negroids stole it

how it that possible since our hair grows like that i guess nigros stole your skin tones too
[img]http://charcoalink.files./2011/03/afro-hair-texture-shot-1.jpg[/img]