Islam is worse than a deadly virus both to those who practice it and to those who stay around those who practice it.
Muslims live their lives in hatred. This hatred will harm those around them and they themselves will be destroyed by their hatreds

Kobojunkie:
1. Again, I challenge you to list at least one verse passage I have so far quoted out-of-context in my discussion with you: one and explain why you believe it quoted out-of-context.

2. I have seen not a single place in this entire discourse, beginning from page 1, where you have done any such that you claim. Instead, all you have are attempts at asserting verses that you posted say what they don't.

3. I am quite OK with the Jesus Christ that I have as Master over my soul. I have no need for that which is master over you.

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No need to drag this one at this point. Simply point out the passages you accuse me of taking out-of-context or upturning, or I will be more than willing to accept that your accusation was false, part of the lies that Jesus Christ warned results from imbibing the doctrines and traditions of men.

Again, over 70% of your Bible quotes are out of context. You don't see your faults even when people point them to you over and over again.
You are like the Scribes and Pharisees who always see wrong in what Jesus does.

Lukuluku69:


Boss, why not direct this same word of Advice to many of your brethrens here on Nairaland?

For every Thread opened by the one you quoted there is at least 4-5 Threads opened by Christians on Islam and Muslims.

Good morning Boss.
I don't support whatever God doesn't support. If I see anyone who needs advice, whether they are Christians or not, I advice them.

Kobojunkie:


1. I challenge you to list at least one verse passage I have so far quoted out-of-context in my discussion with you: one and explain why you believe it quoted out-of-context.

2. Again, according to Jesus Christ those who love Him are those who carefully obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 20 - meaning that they bear fruits that result from the obedience to His teachings and commandments which in John 15 vs 1 - 11, Jesus Christ explains is that which results from abiding in Him. So, if you claim that by obeying Jesus Christ's very teachings and commandments I bear contrary fruits, then what you are invariably saying is that Jesus Christ Himself lied regarding the results of obeying His teachings and commandments.

3. I challenge you to state one passage from all the passages I have presented so far that I have upturned in this: one passage explaining why you believe it upturned.

Over 70% of the Bible verses you quote bars out of context. I have pointed them to you. Go through your posts on nairaland and see what Christians say about you.
Repent while it is possible now

Kobojunkie:
1. Well duh!

2. Again, everything I have stated so far corresponds to that found in the Gospel teachings of Jesus Christ from 2000 years ago, the same teachings which He informed you were everlasting --- never changing. So, if you don't agree with what is written in the Gospels what that means is that you serve a different Jesus Christ, one who has changed his mind, and in so doing, you serve a different master than the one written in scripture which is the one I serve. Certainly, this assuredly means we don't serve the same Jesus Christ --- maybe yours is the Muslim version, who knows ---and since it is impossible to serve two masters in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 6 vs 24 -- we cannot both then be in agreement as far as that which we are each commissioned to do.

3. I am totally against all lies sold by those who use the name of God in their deceit. Jesus Christ was against such lies and He spent quite a significant portion of His time teaching against such lies --- all doctrines and traditions of men (and their churches) are lies by the way --- and those who propagate them using the name of God. So, why you expect me to bend to your way against Jesus Christ is beyond me.

4. Jesus Christ said, "By their fruits, ye shall know them", and He also taught that those who belong to Him are those who obey His teachings and commandments. Can anyone who blatantly rejects the teachings of Jesus Christ, casting them down as being against that which he currently holds, belong to Jesus Christ?

You quote Bible verses out of context.
By their fruits, you shall know them. The fruits you bear does not connote that of Jesus Christ but the fruits of an antichrist.
You upturn the scriptures and the truth of God. Stop it and repent before it is too late for you.

AntiChristian:


You can see demons? Then you need a psychiatrist! Go get help!

Many Christians can see the spiritual world. We are not like Muslims who are decieving themselves thinking they worship God without any experience.

Kobojunkie:
1. What question did you ask me?

2. We can't agree for sure since I am Jesus-Christ-focused since I stay within the confines of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God as taught by Jesus Christ whereas you --- from your every comment so far --- are anything but.

3. I am not here to serve your whims but the Truth of God, Jesus Christ, and every single thing I have said of your churches are taken directly from His teachings, meaning you don't even agree with Jesus Christ on His view of that which you continue to refer to as your "body of christ". Your opinion is of no concern to me.

4. The word "antiChrist" refers to any and all that which contravenes/contradicts the teachings of Jesus Christ, and so far, you and your "body of christ" are it. And as I am sent by Jesus Christ to teach His Gospel to the world, I am here to do exactly as He has commanded of me. If you have a problem with that, I am afraid I am unable to help you at all.

5. Sin refers to disobedience of the teachings and commandments of God, in our case, Jesus Christ. If I choose to obey Jesus Christ in all I do, how can I be said to heap sins upon my own head by doing the Will of God? It seems you don't even realize the meaning in many of the soundbites you have been fed by your pastors and mogs.

Except we serve a different Jesus. The Jesus Christ I know didn't send you to do all these things.
There are people who speak against some of the church doctrines and I agree with some of them. Yours is more like you are against the church and not the doctrines which is against the message of the gospel.
I can boldly say that you don't represent Christ. You exhibit more of an antichrist behaviour.

Kobojunkie:
1. Absolutely none of the scriptures you posted relate any of what you claim. We can even dig into the Greek scripts to be sure of this. Nowhere in the entirety of the Gospels did Jesus Christ tell His followers that the fruit they are to bear are of the human kind.

2. I am definitely not a part of that which you refer to as the "body of Christ" manned by your pastors and mogs who teach you their doctrines and traditions in place of the Truth as taught by Jesus Christ.

None of the verses of the Bible you quoted too answered any of my questions. So this means we don't agree with each other. I don't support you attacking churches. As far as I am concerned, you are attacking the body of Christ.
Don't be an antichrist. It is better you just stay off Christians if you are not comfortable with their practices rather than spending every day of your life condemning Christians. You are heaping sins upon your head if you don't know.

AntiChristian:


Correct the error! Start from the OP and correct my errors!

Who is the father of Joseph the adopted father of God?

Which geneology of Jesus is correct Matthew's or Luke's?

Demons are controlling you. I can see them.

Kobojunkie:
1. But so far I have revealed that what you tangle with has nothing to do with Jesus Christ to begin with since the very Word of Jesus Christ is what stands against them.

2. According to Jesus Christ, the fruits that matter are those born of obeisance of His teachings and commandments, which is what I continue to insist on here..

3. Nowhere in the entirety of what is the Gospels is that which you claim written. Yet you continue to insist it is so, why??

If, again, as Jesus Christ said, those who belong to Him are those who do what He commands using His name, what value is there is there that which He never even said we should pretending that we do them for His sake?

I have shown you from the scriptures of the need to gather as believers. You chose not to believe. Why? It just shows you aren't part of the body of Christ. You are on your own and you don't belong to Jesus Christ but you preach your own message.

Kobojunkie:
1. However exactly did you arrive at this conclusion where nowhere in the entirety of the Gospels are fruits directly or indirectly related to humans?

2. Going against your human fruits you mean?

What you do is bring division to the body of Christ which is the fruit already abiding.
Go and bear fruits. Same way Jesus chose us and ordained us. He expects us to bring in more people into the fold. It is the commandment that gave birth to the church of today which you are not part of as you claim.

Kobojunkie:
1. The first says I should go and teach the very same Gospel that He is teaching me to those in world, baptizing those who wish to be. It doesn't say I should win anyone though since the same Jesus Christ teaches that only those who stand faithful - living in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ- until the end that will be saved - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13. So how can I claim to win anyone when at the end, the person's salvation depends solely on said person?

2. The second speaks of bearing fruit and ensuring my fruits remains. Are you under some notion that the fruit Jesus Christ speaks of are humans?

Yes the fruits means humans. Bear human fruits and let the them remain is what Jesus Christ commanded us.
I only see you on nairaland going against fruits rather than bearing any.

Kobojunkie:
Did Jesus Christ command that I win someone to Him?

Yes.
Matthew 28:19-20 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.


John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

AntiChristian:


Even your God had a big problem looking for who to be killed for the sins of his creations!

Jesus had to help as the son.

Is that not weird too?

You are wrong. Nothing can shake The Almighty God. Try again you will fail again

AntiChristian:


Yeah, I'm already giving them wotowoto!
They are just strolling from one of my thread to another!

I just created another for them.

They will deal ruthlessly with you. You will be left with nothing after they have given you enough koboko

Kobojunkie:
1. Telling me that means nothing as your fruit already reveals to me what holds greater importance in your case.

2. Your sin? You should probably go back through all of the passages I highlighted to find out how much different your ideas are from that taught and commanded by Jesus Christ in the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.

3. Submission and obedience to Jesus Christ is a choice you make in response to God's mandate. Also, in order to be perfect/holy in the Kingdom of God, you are commanded to live your life continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ , God's Truth, for it is by knowing the Truth that you are then set free from slavery to sin by the Truth(Jesus Christ) - John 8 vs 31 - 36. So, if you are looking for a quick guide to sainthood/perfection, you won't get that that me. Instead, what I know of is the Only way and Jesus Christ is It.

Have you ever won anyone for Christ?

AntiChristian:


I think we can derive that Jesus had two different genealogies to Joseph the adopted father of God!

Your problem is big. I can see it.

Kobojunkie:
According to Jesus Christ, "By their fruits ye shall know them [those who belong to Him from those who do not belong to Him]." And He made abundantly clear that those who belong to Him are those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments; this cannot be hidden or mimicked from sight not even from those in the world.

I don't worry about whether I am the only one or not. Afterall, Jesus Christ asked at a certain point if He would find the faithful in the world when He returned. Instead, my focus is on believing in Him ---- the work we are to do as detailed in John 6 vs 25 - 35 - in order that we may be made just by Him - John 17 vs 16 - 19.

It is your choice whether you will accept what He says and do as He commands. Not my place to worry whether you do or not.

I do what Christ commands. So from what you have been saying, it means my sin is fellowshipping with the brethren.
Now, if I stop fellowshipping with the brethren, will it make me a saint and totally submissive to Jesus Christ?

Kobojunkie:
1. Churchianism --- the religion of church attendances and services lead by pastors and mogs ---- is built on a foundation that is set on the doctrines and traditions of men(pastors, mogs, popes, GBs, priests, etc.), lies which Jesus Christ warned nullify the power of God in the lives of those who follow such lies, rendering their worship of God in vain - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13. So, no one who is a follower of Jesus Christ would get entangled in such a belief system along with any of its many rituals which make void their worship of God..

2. According to Jesus Christ's teachings, even those who will end up in Hellfire are all born-again but rather than entering the Kingdom of God through the Narrow Gate, they pass in through the Broad Gate which leads to destruction at the end - John 3 vs 1 -8 & Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 30. In addition, Jesus Christ emphatically stated that those who love Him are those who obey His teachings and commandments meaning that all those who don't obey His teachings and commandments, choosing instead to submit themselves to the doctrines and traditions of men, don't belong to Him and their end is most definitely not Heaven..

In that case, does it then mean that you are the only one who obeys Jesus Christ and the rest of us are disobedient children?

Antichristian, why are you jobless? Use your time well. You are just wasting your time and your life fighting Christianity that will keep marching on. The gates of hell cannot prevail against it. Channel your energy to a productive thingand your life will have a little meaning.
My advice for you though is that you should repent and surrender to Jesus Christ. Don't let the devil mess up your life.

Kobojunkie:
First of, I already explained to you that I do only that commanded by Jesus Christ in His name. I don't need to do as others do. I need to do only that which Jesus Christ commands in His name.

Second, who are my brethren? According to Jesus Christ, they are those who live their those in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, the Will of God in the Kingdom of God. Jesus Christ made it so that not just anything will do. Recall that Jesus Christ even went as far as disavow even His own mother in Matthew 12 vs 48 - 50 & Mark 3 vs 31 - 35 - for this purpose.

Again, I am not alone. I have my Teacher, Master, Shepherd, Leader/Guide, Helper...etc, with me every step of the way. No one who belongs to Jesus Christ is ever really alone.

Okay. Apart from you, Is there anyone else Jesus Christ is pleased with since we all attend church services? Will that make us go to hell?

Kobojunkie:
As the title of the letter clearly informs you, the letter is addressed specifically to the believers who are of Jewish descent as God’s commandment for a holy assembly was given to the Israelites by God in places such as Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8. These gatherings are to be held on select Holy days commanded by God and so the author of the letter to the Hebrews encourages His Jewish brethren who also happen to be Christians not to forsake the gathering to the brethren on those holy day proclaiming it an opportunity to encourage those who do not believe among them.

Do not, however, confuse that advice from the author of the Letter to the Hebrews for the Gospel teachings of Jesus Christ, the Law in the Kingdom of God. That stated in Hebrew -- and God in Leviticus 23. --- applies in the Land of Israel according to Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. Whereas the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Gospel and New Covenant Law applies in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom not of this world.

In the Bible, every believer gathered with the brethren where they broke bread together; prayed together; studied together etc. Why are you deciding to be alone in your Christian journey?

Kobojunkie:
1. Those are references. to the collection of all believers living within the specified town or district e.g. all people who believe in Jesus Christ who also live in Sokoto or Lagos, and not to your church businesses of today set up and organized by men.

2. If you read carefully what John wrote in Revelations, He didn't say anything about Jesus Christ asking them to gather. As for what the disciples did, Jesus Christ never said His followers are to follow the examples of His disciples. Instead, He made clear instead that those who belong to Him are those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience of His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 25. So saying the disciples did this means nothing since I am not a follower of the disciples but of Jesus Christ.

3. I don't know what Jesus Christ felt about them at any of the points written since Judgement day is still at the end for them and also for me --- the disciples are still in their graves to this day waiting for Jesus Christ to return and judge their works ---- so it would be foolish of me to place my bet on the disciples and not on Jesus Christ alone. So long as I am in compliance with the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, it does not matter whether I am alone or not since at the end, He will judge me and me alone for my works.

Alright. What can you say about the verse below?
Hebrews 10:25
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

AntiChristian:


Of course it pains me that some parents refuse to inculcate any home training in some people!

Or let's blame you guys that reject home training in the name of "woke".

You need deliverance from these stubborn demons.

Kobojunkie:
1. But Jesus Christ never asked any of His disciples to pray together with anyone else. As a matter of fact, Jesus Christ that the only way to pray and have God answer you is when you pray in secret and in hiding - Matthew 6 vs 6 - 15. So of what essence are these public prayer sessions you lot engage in?

2. Jesus Christ never asked His disciples to study scripture with anyone. As a matter of fact, He instead told them that it is only when they use the understanding they have been given ---- not the understanding or opinion of others ---- that more understanding will be given to them by the Father - Matthew 13 vs 12 & Mark 4 vs 22 - 24 & Matthew 25 vs 29. So, again, what good is it for anyone to do that which contradicts the very commandments of Jesus Christ while pretending it is all for the sake of Jesus Christ?


3. According to Jesus Christ, the Helper whom the Father sends to His followers --- the Spirit of Truth, the same Spirit who lives inside of Jesus Christ --- is the only Helper His followers require. He alone will lead each to do the work which God has for them - John 14 vs 15 - 17 & John 14 vs 25 - 27 & John 15 vs 26 - 27 & John 16 vs 4 - 15 - so, again, of what good is it for anyone to do that which contradicts the very commandments of Jesus Christ while pretending it is all for the sake of Jesus Christ?

4. The only group I belong to ---- the only one worth belonging to ---- is the Church of Jesus Christ over whom Jesus Christ Himself is the only Teacher, Master/Head, Authority/Leader, Shepherd, Helper,.... etc., and that church has absolutely nothing to do with any of your churches in this world.

Alright. What do you think about the 7 churches mentioned in the book of revelations. Is Jesus Christ against them gathering. Also the churches visited by the apostles. Is Jesus Christ against anyone of them? Were they supposed to be standing alone just like you are doing?

Kobojunkie:
If none of the churches of men here on earth, all of them steeped in the doctrines and traditions of men(pastors, mogs, GBs, popes, babalawos, etc.), belong to Jesus Christ, how does belonging to any one of them help me where Jesus Christ is concerned?

Jesus Christ never commanded His disciples to build your churches using His name, neither did He command His own to attend your earthly church services using His name. The Matthew 18 where Jesus Christ advices His followers to come together as last resort in order to resolve possible issues that may exist between individuals that belong to His church is the only official command from Jesus Christ. So, try not to confuse Churchianism with that which is of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God.

Okay. Do you have anyone who you come together with to pray, study the Bible and do the work of God? If there is any, please can you share about this group so we can atleast know where you belong.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you are deluded.

In no way have I condemned the Church of Jesus Christ. Instead, what I cast as not being of Jesus Christ are the churches of men which use the name of Jesus Christ to sell their lies - doctrines and traditions. Jesus Christ Himself warned His followers against your pastors and mogs and their lies - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 calling them the thieves who come to steal and kill the fat sheep and destroy hos flock using His name - John 10 vs 7 - 15. So again, the question remains why do you who claim to believe in Jesus Christ not know the Truth as taught by the one you call savior?

Alright then. Which church here on earth do you belong to or which church do you advise people to attend that is not church of men?

Kobojunkie:
Try to pay attention!

Actually, this is what Jesus Christ Himself taught to His disciples. Everything I said there is found right there in the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, the very same Law which Jesus Christ sent His followers to teach to those who are in the world. So the question is why do you who claim to be of Jesus Christ not know any of this?,

I think your question is actually supposed to be directed to yourself because you preach against Jesus Christ and His words. You condemn the church of Christ and you stand against the truth in the word of God.

Kobojunkie:
Actually, this is what Jesus Christ Himself taught to His disciples. Everything I said there is found right there in the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, the very same Law which Jesus Christ sent His followers to teach to those who are in the world. So the question is why do you who claim to be of Jesus Christ not know any of this?,

Revelation 22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Kobojunkie:
When Jesus Christ spoke of His Church, He spoke of those who do the Will of God, that is those who entered into the Kingdom of God via the Narrow Gate that leads to True Life. Jesus Christ is that gate(Narrow Gate) and He alone is the good shepherd over those who belong to Him - John 10 vs 1 - 16. Those those who belong to Him are taught, not by men, but by the Father Himself- John 5 vs 43 - 47 and they are those who abide in Him and Him in them --- the ones He loves - John 15 vs 1 - 11

Your earthly churches have their foundation in that which is not Jesus Christ.

You started well and ended badly as usual. Jesus Christ didn't send you to be doing what you are doing.

ChildOfDoom:
I remember two years ago, when I was determined to stop betting (virtual in particular), I asked around for a native doctor who will put a spell that anytime I gambled again, I should die.

I was hoping that would deter me from playing again. Someone was close to taking me there, before I backed out. Looking back, I was glad I did not go.

I am yet to get over my betting addiction, despite my remorsefulness and intelligence. I would have just died like that.

It's 100 days to my 31st birthday. So I will start a countdown of no Betting for that 100 days (from October 16th 2022 to January 24th 2023. So help me God. I will also add masturbation and junk abstinence too

Ways to survive it - get a fairly used generator, so I can charge my phone and not be tempted to go to a bet shop. Avoid Livescore, friends that talk about football and stop my love for the game. Occupy my time with work, try to let go of past hurt and look up to God

Please any one willing to take this bold step with me, message me on pirogee76@gmail.com. this addiction must not kill us

Just submit yourself to Jesus Christ.
Let me tell you what would happen.
1. You will be given grace to overcome every additions.
2. Your sins will be forgiven.
3. You will enjoy freedom
4. Your life will begin to have meaning
5. Your name will be written in the book of life.

ChildOfDoom:
I remember two years ago, when I was determined to stop betting (virtual in particular), I asked around for a native doctor who will put a spell that anytime I gambled again, I should die.

I was hoping that would deter me from playing again. Someone was close to taking me there, before I backed out. Looking back, I was glad I did not go.

I am yet to get over my betting addiction, despite my remorsefulness and intelligence. I would have just died like that.

It's 100 days to my 31st birthday. So I will start a countdown of no Betting for that 100 days (from October 16th 2022 to January 24th 2023. So help me God. I will also add masturbation and junk abstinence too

Ways to survive it - get a fairly used generator, so I can charge my phone and not be tempted to go to a bet shop. Avoid Livescore, friends that talk about football and stop my love for the game. Occupy my time with work, try to let go of past hurt and look up to God

Please any one willing to take this bold step with me, message me on pirogee76@gmail.com. this addiction must not kill us

Just submit yourself to Jesus Christ.
Let me tell you what would happen.
1. You will be given grace to overcome every additions.
2. Your sins will be forgiven.
3. You will enjoy freedom
4. Your life will begin to have meaning
5. Your name will bee written in the book of life.{