MizMyColi: Atheists and Progressive Christians have more in common

True talk. It is easier to get along with those who are relaxed with their religion.

adeitoro: An atheist does not believe in anything, but believes that he does not believe in nothing.

My guy, either say something related to the topic or something factual or just keep qiiet

1. Anti-tithe Crusade
Atheists and non-tithing christians usually join forces to promote awareness against tithe-hustlers who keep many of their members in perpetual poverty/enslavement

2. Anti-terrorism task-forcing
As our muslim brothers are usually silent when it comes to solutions against Boko haram menace, it is left for the christans and atheists to criticise and constructively give solutions to stop the boko haram attacks.

3. Football tribalism
Chelsea fans dey craze? Who be Arsene Wenger? !!! You can see an atheist and a christian blasting each other in the religion section, only to later be chatting about football in the chatbox or on the sports section. They even become friends if they support the same club. However, the beef might be worse if they support different clubs


4. GEJ. bashing.
It doesn't matter whether you are a christian, pagan or satan worshipper in Nigeria. Our leaders have failed us with their corrupt ways. You will find everyone agreeing that our leader has to do more. #bring back our girls GEJ!!!!

haemi: The prophet SAW has said that the most best of mahrs is the simplest; in our societies today, nevertheless, we find brides or their families asking for exorbitant mahr from the would be husbands. Sometimes, this makes some Muslim men scared of marriage in many places.
What is the most expensive mahr you've ever witnessed at a nikkah, and how can the issue of mahr be managed amongst Muslims wanting to get married?

hehe....the prophet had over 10 wives....of course his marh would be simple

Hehe......Ebola fruit bats are halal

https://www.nairaland.com/1880579/irony-ebola-fruit-bats-halal

Arsenal fan here


Chelsea v Arsenal oct 5th

Empiree:
Story story. You bow Thats what matters

It is the sign of an honest and intelligent man......respects when he has reached his limits

Empiree:
Taqiyah? I guess the word now means something else to you . You are not Atheist rather a confused religionist

What? Am an atheist.

You are too used to old white men like Dawkins who dont read the Quran but criticize islam

Empiree:
Now you begining to backslide but before this you are arrogantly would be Islamic "scholar" while pretending to be Atheist. Agreeing with him or not is not important. What's important is you bowed . Anyway, i dropped a note here for you on "Islamic economy" you whining over. https://www.nairaland.com/1829650/how-muslims-partly-responsible-palestine#25892575

I cant know everything about islam. Not even your Mullahs/Imams know everything.

I didnt want to argue with Tbaba because the info about Ibn Ishaq work and authenticity is not clear. We would both be arguing subjective conjecture

Empiree: @Urban, you are just being unfair to yourself and being deceptive. Let me help you out here a little since you refused to read my links in other thread nor did you watch the videos. Yet you whining around like a little chiken behind its mother. Here is the thing. What you termed Islamic economy that you claim doesnt exist is coded in Arabic term Murabaha or simply Murabah. Do you actually think muslims here have time to write a book over this just to satisfy you?.
Well, Murabaha is a section Islam and economics which deals with banking and finacing, investment, capital gain and loss etc. Now that you have code name, do your research. Dont expect me to type and talk here. The videos I have you talked about Murabaha. Murabaha is Shariah compliant which UK adopted or partly aopted to safe their freaking economy. I am not economists but i am very well aware of this going.
Murabaha is free of interest (usury a k a riba). Though it's abused at some point in the UK. On FOXNews some years back in the early economy crisis, they talked about adopting Shariah compliant. Though FOX anti-islam rhetoric simply downplayed glorifying Shariah economy but the host did say he would personally adopt it to safe his investment at Wall Street back then.
As for you Usermane, the way you are clueless about economics, is the same way about islam altogether. Reading your tune here suggests that you do not even recognize riba being forbidden. Quran has zero tolerant for it. It's that simple. Hadith talks about it at length. It's a form of modern slavery which now adopted universally. It makes rich permanently rich and poor permanently poor. It doesnt matter if it's 1% interest rate or 100%. The former would enslave you slowly. Thats all.
TheBigUrban2, you are just being sadistic here. Not all Arab or Gulf investment in the west involve usury. I really cant get into this since i dont know them personally. It's unfair to assume because they deposit in foreign banks mean interest deposit. I have been banking with PNC for 10yrs and HSBC for 8yrs. Never for once my transactions involved riba. You have options before opening account with these companies which determines interest based investment or deposit. I was persoanlly asked by HSBC 5 yrs ago that my account qualified for interest accumulation which I promply rejected. Of-course one should monitor his or her accoount to be sure of compliant. Accoridng to HSBC rep that time, monhtly interest would yield 500$. Now someone with no conscience would have definitely accepted this offer and by now 500 by 12 by 5 would have yielded lump sum. But sorry, I am not interested. Please Urban go and study Islamic banking and finance. This is also part of economy growth, "Islamic Economy"

If you were intelligent, you wold have switched to Barclays who have a sharia compliant account package for muslim customers.

Empiree: @Urban, you are just being unfair to yourself and being deceptive. Let me help you out here a little since you refused to read my links in other thread nor did you watch the videos. Yet you whining around like a little chiken behind its mother. Here is the thing. What you termed Islamic economy that you claim doesnt exist is coded in Arabic term Murabaha or simply Murabah. Do you actually think muslims here have time to write a book over this just to satisfy you?.
Well, Murabaha is a section Islam and economics which deals with banking and finacing, investment, capital gain and loss etc. Now that you have code name, do your research. Dont expect me to type and talk here. The videos I have you talked about Murabaha. Murabaha is Shariah compliant which UK adopted or partly aopted to safe their freaking economy. I am not economists but i am very well aware of this going.
Murabaha is free of interest (usury a k a riba). Though it's abused at some point in the UK. On FOXNews some years back in the early economy crisis, they talked about adopting Shariah compliant. Though FOX anti-islam rhetoric simply downplayed glorifying Shariah economy but the host did say he would personally adopt it to safe his investment at Wall Street back then.
As for you Usermane, the way you are clueless about economics, is the same way about islam altogether. Reading your tune here suggests that you do not even recognize riba being forbidden. Quran has zero tolerant for it. It's that simple. Hadith talks about it at length. It's a form of modern slavery which now adopted universally. It makes rich permanently rich and poor permanently poor. It doesnt matter if it's 1% interest rate or 100%. The former would enslave you slowly. Thats all.
TheBigUrban2, you are just being sadistic here. Not all Arab or Gulf investment in the west involve usury. I really cant get into this since i dont know them personally. It's unfair to assume because they deposit in foreign banks mean interest deposit. I have been banking with PNC for 10yrs and HSBC for 8yrs. Never for once my transactions involved riba. You have options before opening account with these companies which determines interest based investment or deposit. I was persoanlly asked by HSBC 5 yrs ago that my account qualified for interest accumulation which I promply rejected. Of-course one should monitor his or her accoount to be sure of compliant. Accoridng to HSBC rep that time, monhtly interest would yield 500$. Now someone with no conscience would have definitely accepted this offer and by now 500 by 12 by 5 would have yielded lump sum. But sorry, I am not interested. Please Urban go and study Islamic banking and finance. This is also part of economy growth, "Islamic Economy"

@ bold, I lived in london- if you are going to lie for islam, make it an undetectable one.

UK adopted sharia compliant finace to save their economy? Taquiyah!!!!!!!!

tbaba1234:

A little bit of education, for once, just read.

Narrations are grouped into

Sound, good, weak and fabricated.

This is based on a number of factors.

I. The chain of narrators: is it a weak chain or a strong chai

Ii. Did they meet? Can this be confirmed

Ii. Are they reliable?

Iv. Is it consistent?

Etc

A biography of each reporter is developed.

A forged hadith is a hadith whose text goes against the established norms of the Prophet's sayings, or its reporters include a liar. Fabricated hadith are also recognized by external evidence related to a discrepancy found in the dates or times of a particular incident.

It is not about which book, it is found. It is a detailed study on the individual narration.

Ibn ishaq narrations have to be individually tested for authenticity. You have to show evidence of strength.

Read about the science of hadith. You are a wikipedia fan, I am sure you will find something there.

#Schooled by Tbaba.




I wont argue too much on this. There is a limit to my knowledge on the hadith

benodic:
I tried my best to live a life of pure love as a Christian but I didn't succeed until I found ECKANKAR, The Religion of the Light and Sound of God. now giving love to all souls without discrimination is a second nature to me. and moreover I have come to understand the spiritual laws of life.

the funny aspect of it all is that even Christians that I have freely given love to will attack me and tell me that giving love to life will not guarantee my entry to heaven unless I accept Jesus as my saviour.

It makes me wonder whether Christians really study the bible. the story of who will make heaven is beautifully captured in the story of the Good samaritan
where a samaritan was able to tender to an injured man while a levi left him to die because the man is not a Jew.
the samaritan does not have to accept Jesus as his saviour to make heaven as his act of love alone is all the guarantee needed. love and love alone is the key to heaven and not your religion.

Gerrout with your cult.


Eckankar ni, Sri lanka ko....mtchew

tbaba1234:

Scholar, reference, reason... Mr hadith scholar

I gave you a reason and reference why it is considered a forgery.

Who is 'some'?? What reason did 'some' give??

Hadith study is a science.

Hadith study is not a science. Please, stop the lies.



Secondly, if the story of Asma Bint Marwan is false, why is then practised in majority of the muslim world where insulting the prophet will get you either executed or jailed for a long time?

Thirdly, if the story, which is attributed to Ibn Ishaq is false, then how much of what we know of Muhammad is true? Remember that Ibn Ishaq has his own biography on the prophet? Note he is one of the earliest sources on the history of the prophet.

golpen:

the only arabic word my friend knows

he uses it when he's buried in a dialogue.

It's okay. I understand that the facts pain you

golpen:

I wont be surprised you are still dwelling under the influence of paul, tha half baked informations of the bible and all...now read the full version of what you quoted my friend



this means the negligible 4 in 100 cases you are sleeping on primarily applies to couples with carriers of disorders... thesmallrural oree mi! !!

Where did you get 4 in 100? Taquiyyah

#the fact remains that the first cousin marriages have higher risk of having deformed children

Empiree:
so when did you become doctor of hadith?
i thought you are Atheist, isn't ?

An atheist that reads.......


That is why Mac, your mod, has a special hatred for me. I am not like those islam bashers that just bash islam because they see boko haraam. No, I read, think and conclude.

tbaba1234:

You mean the hadith that is considered a forgery by Islamic scholars but ofcourse you would not know that. You people just peddle nonsense.

This is about the hadith:

"...this Isnad (chain of reporters) is not narrated on authority of Mujalid but by Muhammad Ibn Al-Hajjaj and they all (other reporters in the chain) accuse Muhammad Ibn Al-Hajjaj of forging it." (Ibn 'Adiyy, Al-Kamal, Vol. 6, p. 145)

Another lie!


It is considered authentic by some scholars too.....so dont act sanctimonious here

golpen:

when you talk, you don't know how you sound disgusting by making me read these things...can't you see that you need help when you read an article like that and still claim the rubbish you're saying.

it is very true according to the article that all your hate views and researches did not take some things into consideration. like maternity care and diet during pregnancy, infections, pills and drugs taken by pregnant women and so on... dr bittles said mostvof your hate datas are 'exceedingly poooooor' !

the world renowned biologist and geneticist, whom no doubt, you must have passed through his knowledge as a student- charles darwin was said to have married his cousin even in his high indept of genetic knowledge . there was no record of uim having a deformed child.

vedaxcool has told you already. ..GO AND SLEEP.

#yawns! ...come back with another argument some other day.

I quoted from the very same article you linked and you are butthurt??


LMAO!!! See frustration. This is what hardcore islam does to you....gives you high blood pressure when someone challenges your religion

tbaba1234:

You mean the hadith that is considered a forgery by Islamic scholars but ofcourse you would not know that. You people just peddle nonsense.

This is about the hadith:

"...this Isnad (chain of reporters) is not narrated on authority of Mujalid but by Muhammad Ibn Al-Hajjaj and they all (other reporters in the chain) accuse Muhammad Ibn Al-Hajjaj of forging it." (Ibn 'Adiyy, Al-Kamal, Vol. 6, p. 145)

It is considered a forgery by SOME scholars, not all.


Secondly, I did open a thread long time ago about Asma Bint Marwan. lol....dont take me for the average islamophobe.

anonymous6:

Ignorant, I could careless about the atheist vs. Christian back and forth but the article has been in some blogs that formed debates and issues that was interesting

Well you are right Fox News distorts facts but with this article I posted it as a newsfeed to generate attention on issues that arise from it. Which is what happened, mission accomplished

vedaxcool:

Yawns! This answers it all;



I don't do circles!

lmao!!! The article you and Golpen didnt read?

There's no doubt that children whose parents are close biological relatives are at a greater average risk of inheriting genetic disorders, Bittles writes. Studies of cousin marriages worldwide suggest that the risks of illness and early death are three to four percent higher than in the rest of the population.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-04/nesc-wnm042512.php

tbaba1234: Did you know:

Over 1400 years and not one fabricated hadith has been ascribed to a women! No women has ever made up a lie regarding the prophet PBUH, SubhanAllah, amazing.

That's awesome.

mentioned by Shiekh Yawar Baig

The bold is ridiculous


So, because no woman lied against the prophet, it is awesome for islam?


Then there is the story of Asma Bint Marwan