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I don't know. I would recommend you apply to a course that is similar to what you might want to study when you ultimately get to Germany. For example assuming you want to study mechanical engineering in Germany, you could apply to mechanical engineering or electrical engineering or physics or mathematics, etc. First year classes for these sort of courses are often very similar. Lordkross: |
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Open the pdf on a PC, not a tablet or phone. Williamsobodo: |
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Agnostic atheist here, haha. ![]() okechukwu101: |
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I fully agree that there's no need to create a dichotomy between PGD/PGC and masters applicants. The average processing time is 15 weeks, which means that it affects everyone in some way. Even if we think PGD/PGC applicants might be affected more, this notion may not be correct because the applicants on the thread are only a small subset of all those who apply to CIC Lagos/Accra. Infinity2020: 2 Likes |
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travy:While I normally am not a conspiracy theorist, I have to agree with you that I think there may be a bit of social engineering (whether premeditated or not) going on. I think the excessively long processing times may be a way to discourage too many Nigerian applicants from reapplying, but I (paradoxically) doubt that CIC Accra/Lagos have premeditated to use this strategy -- it probably just fell on their lap and they don't care to think about it. To them it's sort of a "good" side effect to a situation that they didn't necessary premeditate (long processing times). I would like to suggest to others who find it hard to go to Canada to consider the US. While US education is more expensive in some cases (stronger currency), there are more scholarships (and wayyy more schools) if you are willing to take and excel at tests like the SAT (undergrad) or GRE/GMAT (grad). I live and did all my post-secondary school education in the US and love it (it's not a perfect country tho, lol). I do love Canada too as the people are very kind/friendly and the socioeconomic outcomes for their citizens don't have as many extremes compared to the US --> what I mean by this is that in the US you can become extremely rich by working hard, but you could also become poor if you had some crazy disease and lost your job and had no family and some other crazy shiit happened. I think that people who have tried Canada and have been rejected multiple times may actually have a better chance to get a US visa if they used the Canada application process to learn what VOs need to be convinced about. VOs of any country first and foremost need to be convinced about your purpose of visit; a face-to-face interview at the US embassy gives you the opportunity to apply what you have learned through the grueling Canadian visa application process. This is not to discourage applicants to Canada though, keep pushing. Edited: Germany is another country to consider. 12 Likes |
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You indeed need something similar to A-levels or one year of university in Nigeria or something like that in order to be admitted to most (all? not sure) BSc programs in Germany. Several people on the German student visa thread suggest taking one year's worth of courses at NOUN (National Open University of Nigeria) as an alternative way to do this. Another alternative is to go to Germany to do Studienkolleg for two semesters, and then go to university from there. If you consider doing this, keep in mind that you'll need to be at a B1 proficiency in the German language. Lordkross: |
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You make a good point. Maybe emailing and tweeting and calling the Canadian Immigration Minister is the best way to go. lawmerchant: |
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True, you are skilled. But the thing is developed countries most likely won't recognize your skill directly because they have different certifications for mechanics in those countries and you don't have those certifications. I agree that this seems a bit unfair but this is how each country regulates and maintains quality for certain professions. BUT if you find yourself in any developed country, given your mechanic skillset it probably won't be too hard for you to study and work on upgrading your mechanic certification(s) to the one(s) recognized in whichever country you end up in. Maybe you could consider studying automotive engineering BSc in Germany (or any other country)? Your past experience as a mechanic (combined with formal training) would equip you in the future to be even better than your (future) automotive engineer peers in Germany (or wherever). Lordkross: |
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Go to Germany. Tuition is free there. Check out this link: www.daad.de/deutschland/studienangebote/international-programs/en/ Also, painstakingly read the German student visa thread: https://www.nairaland.com/3052025/general-german-visa-enquiries-part Just to give you a summary of Germany, it is not that difficult to stay once you finish school there (particularly if you are willing to learn the language well and/or if you study any science-related courses). So as I mentioned earlier tuition is free there BUT you need to show the embassy that you have enough money for living expenses for your first year. This amount is about 8700 Euros. Do keep in mind that you will need to transfer that amount to a "blocked" account in Germany once your visa is being processed. You can get a part-time job during your first year and you may be able to cover all your living expenses from said earnings (assuming you don't go to a super expensive city or a rural town with zero jobs). Also, if you do decide on Germany make sure you apply to the schools early because visa appointment dates can be hard to get if your admission comes late. A final reason why you should consider Germany is because all the Scandinavian countries you mention are somewhat similar to Germany. Scandinavians are (historically) Germanic peoples so their way of life is not too far off from Germany, however imho Germany is a much better option because it is a much larger country, more diverse with plenty immigrants, has lots of jobs in finance & manufacturing & software & automotive, etc. Keep in mind though that options for getting a BSc in English are few, most BSc programs (though not all) are taught in German. MSc programs however are a different story, many of the programs are taught in English. Start doing lots of googling to read more about getting an education in Germany. In the worst case, you can start off in Germany and later move to Scandinavia! After all, Rome was not built in a day. Also, look up the Goethe Institute in Lagos, you can start learning German there! Sometimes people from the German embassy host seminars there for prospective students that plan to go to Germany. Best of luck, my friend! 19 Likes 3 Shares |
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If the person has an extremely compelling "purpose of visit" then this should offset having little to no personal assets. I know two people around that age bracket that got their TRVs without including any personal asset whatsoever. Their applications however were put together extremely well. Their SOPs too were extremely strong. VOs sometimes even use "personal assets" to refuse some people with plenty personal assets if the rest of the application is not convincing. My view is that anyone above 27 without personal assets just needs to prepare a more convincing and very very professional looking app. My younger bro who got his TRV last year, for example, did not have any personal assets and didn't have a job (but he did a lot of freelance work for which we provided proof) and his bank statement only contained money that the sponsor deposited at the last minute (which we explained to the VO). The thing though is that we came out clean to the VO that he was freelancing and didn't make a lot of money doing it because he was so passionate about what he liked to do in spite of the little money he made. The SOP we submitted was very convincing. He also submitted a very detailed resume showing all his projects. We included in the app lots of proof of the projects. michV: 2 Likes |
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Fantastic. seunskills: |
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Good to hear that you also thought of this. I should mention that even though masters and PhD applicants get their TRVs at a higher rate than PGDs, they still mostly experience the unjust waiting times. The letter to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs will primarily emphasize the unconscionably long waiting times, not who is denied and who is approved. If we make it about denial rates, then the complaint won't have much teeth given that it's Canada's prerogative to deny or approve. Will send you a PM so we can together come up with an outline of how to frame the letter. @BlackXStar, will keep you posted too. yemdogg: 4 Likes |
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@NonelikeGod, I responded to you na. Or did you have a question addressed to me that I haven't responded to? |
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Btw, in some older posts some people suggested sending tweets to CIC as a way to get them to accelerate their processing time. I would suggest that the best way to do this is to get someone in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to file a direct complaint to CIC. While Nigeria has little diplomatic weight (we are just too disorganized and have a poor economy), any message or complaint by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to CIC will definitely be taken seriously by the Canadian government. A processing time of 15 weeks is excessive, and I would even argue, heartless and willfully negligent towards Nigerian applicants. Edited: Anyone here know anyone in the Nigeria Ministry of Foreign Affairs (or in the higher rungs of the Federal Government)? Some of the applicants on this thread can come together to write a joint letter to someone in one of these top offices of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs or Federal Government. Another alternative is to write the letter to the Ambassador of Nigeria to Canada -- this actually might be the easier route. If you think this is a good idea, respond to this message so we can get a headcount of whoever would be willing to cosign the letter. I can volunteer to draft the letter, and will put it in a Google Drive document that any of the cosignees can edit and then send (once we find the right person in the Nigerian government to send it to.) cc: yemdogg, you are a lawyer abi? hehe. cc: michV cc: lawmerchant, you are a lawyer too? All the lawyers on the forum, your help will be needed to assist in reading/writing the draft (assuming someone on here can find a Nigerian Federal official that is authorized to communicate directly to embassies or foreign governments). 13 Likes |
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What a great read! It's noteworthy to see that some of the other cases referred to (as precedents) were Nigerian applicants who also sued CIC. lawmerchant: |
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Haha. I answer when I can. ![]() Ok it makes sense why you are including a consent letter. Jayne07: 1 Like |
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Yes you can do that. There are no cut and dry rules. All you need to do is present whatever information in a way that is clear and easily comprehensible to the visa officer. Also, why do you need a consent letter? I have never heard of the concept of a consent letter for an applicant older than 18 years of age. Best. Jayne07: 1 Like |
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@bolded, while it seems that CIC is taking ages to respond to PGD/PGC applicants, we shouldn't be too quick to hit the "panic" button. As @hayqinsbFX wrote, the recent PGD/PGC denials (& slow CIC responses) may have nothing to do with conspiracies against PGD/PGC applicants. Something similar happened in July last year where CIC for a while didn't respond to a lot of applicants but when they responded it was a bunch of denials after medicals (particularly for applicants who received medical calls on or after July 17, 2015). These mass denials were not restricted to PGD/PGC applicants, masters applicants were also affected significantly. At the time, many applicants on this thread propounded doomsday theories too but it is now all water under the bridge. So yeah let's relax a little bit. For obvious reasons, CIC seems to be slow and scrutinizing during rush application periods. It is possible that they received an unprecedented number of PGD/PGC applicants this year and hence they are being more careful before issuing visas to said applicants (given the recently worsened Nigerian economy). Nonetheless, they will still issue visas to PGD/PGC applications that have a convincing purpose of visit. Multispanzy: 6 Likes |
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Just seeing this. Sorry o. I'm glad people already responded to you. NonelikeGod: |
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A portion of this post may help: https://www.nairaland.com/2367106/travelling-canada-part-8/28#34729512 diggy4real: |
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CassetteBoy:@NonelikeGod is correct. I don't live in Canada, I live in the country next door to it (for a while I called it one of the "Five Eye" countries). Just in case you haven't read my old posts, I ended up on this thread a year ago because I was trying to help my sister get a Canadian TRV (after she got denied) and I ended up staying past my welcome lol. After reading from about Part 4 to Part 8 (at the time) I was able to help her package her next application which got approved swiftly, and this success inspired us to apply for my younger brother (a complex applicant) as well who got his study permit TRV on the first try. Even though I don't live in Canada I still have opinions about it haha! I have in the recent past briefly visited Ontario, Quebec, and British Columbia. What specific questions do you want me to answer? I will let you know what I can answer and what I can't. I will mention some of the other gurus (living/studying in Canada) on the thread to answer questions about their respective provinces if the answers can't be googled! 2 Likes |
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jredlom:Understood. Perhaps you should find a way to weave this into your application so the VO knows that you've been investing in learning the language already. It would be even more credible if you have taken the TEF (the French equivalent of IELTS) as evidence of your burgeoning French ability; assuming your French level is ok (I'm guessing B1 level, according to the European CEFR language competency levels), then you could maybe find a less expensive hospitality program to attend in Quebec (instead of going to study just French)? jredlom:You are welcome. |
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@jredlom, instead of going for French why not go study a international hospitality related course in Quebec and then use that opportunity to gain a better French accent? To do this, first dedicate a year or so to learn French in Ivory Coast/Benin/Togo, and then go to a school like this in Quebec. This would be much more credible (though probably much more expensive). 2 Likes |
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Ghana & Naija, c'est la meme chose, lol. ![]() Well, ok in your application you should come up with an elegant way to explain why you need to study "Standard French"; you could allude to the fact that in the hospitality/hotel/restaurant/aviation industries, your accent and international exposure (outside Africa) are premium traits that would play a key role in your ability to serve international French speaking clients. Also explain why you don't want to go to France (because I am certain the VO would be wondering why not France). But keep in mind that if I were the VO, I would still think that you could study Standard French by being dedicated to watching YouTube videos and using apps like Duolingo or Rosetta Stone. So you might want to be additionally more convincing. Also, you can consider framing your trips to South Africa in a way that shows that you are not an intending immigrant. You will have to do this in a subtle yet convincing way. About if you need bulky money in your sponsor's account, I don't really know the answer to this (and I'm not sure I'd recommend a sudden deposit). I think what matters is that you should be able to prove that you have enough ties to Ghana otherwise your chances of denial are high. jredlom: 3 Likes |
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jredlom:I just realized I already stated my opinion on your visa application. It's good that you feel confident enough to submit an application, notwithstanding the concerns raised in my previous response. I am guessing you have addressed all the issues that may pop into the mind of the VO. Cheers and best of luck. Edited: To be brutally honest, I still think that your app has very little chance for the same reasons that @rheginarh mentioned. Your "purpose of visit" is not clear. Also, given that your course of study doesn't really have a justifiable purpose of visit, the VO will see that you have minimal financial ties to Nigeria as evidenced by your total $2000CDN. Additionally, you own no property, you presumably are not married, your business is not financially robust enough to sponsor yourself, your sponsor's funds are "just" $4600CDN, you have zero travel history to OECD countries, etc. You have minimal financial and professional ties to Nigeria. Bro, if you were my brother I would tell you to not apply because your chance of denial is like 99.9%. BUT if you insist that you will apply, then in your SOP you need to really paint yourself as a visionary and make a case for why going to study French in Canada would considerably increase your ability to achieve your professional goals. You will need to be as specific as possible about this. Do not take it lightly. You will also need to specifically spell out an itemized plan of your professional goals in Nigeria (lay out the plans, don't just make generic statements) and link each goal to what you will gain from your short time studying French in Canada. You will also need to explain concisely what you have been doing in Nigeria to push toward these professional goals of yours. You will need to explain why you must study the course in Canada as opposed to the neighboring Francophone countries. Your arguments will have to be cogent and your whole app will need to sound extremely intelligent and professional. Since you have few financial and family ties to Nigeria, you WILL need to make a case that you have extremely strong professional ties to Nigeria. If you do this, then your chance of denial may reduce to like 80-90%. Sorry I sound pessimistic. But I'm just trying to help. 7 Likes 1 Share |
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No it absolutely isn't compulsory. Only include it if it makes sense to. In some cases, it doesn't even make sense to include one (e.g. you are going to study something different from your current employers expertise or area of business). Mikymiko: 1 Like |
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Sorry about your delay. Was it clear and obvious to the VO how you arrived at the "Funds Available"? Everything about your finances in the next app must be "idiot-proof" so the VO doesn't have to think too much for things to make sense. Anything that requires the VO to do mental math can be frustrating and annoying to him/her. Bamz: |
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Fantastic advice, bro. yemdogg: 1 Like |
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Skiiiwalker:Ouch, sorry. But you can still get lucky. |
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Nice one. Glad to hear bro. michV: |
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