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NYSC / Re: Nysc 2015 Batch A by tunde4top(m): 3:33pm On Apr 17, 2015
clans:

Thanks for the info
The pleasure is mine!
NYSC / Re: Nysc 2015 Batch A by tunde4top(m): 1:46pm On Apr 17, 2015
IF you are from UNILAG, and want to over-ride the convocation hefty charges, just work up to unilag access bank branch to pay a total fee of 7k (2k for alumni, and 5k for certificate). People are already paying it, and i will pay mine on monday. they will tell you what to do before and after payments. Note: many other schl banks are acting ignorance of this.
NYSC / Re: Nysc 2015 Batch A by tunde4top(m): 12:39pm On Apr 17, 2015
Clearance has started in my department (physics science of UNILAG). The form only costs 200 naira.
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Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 11:09am On Apr 11, 2015
Hiswordxray:

I agree with you.


thank you.
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 11:31am On Apr 10, 2015
Bennyzino:
Guys tunde is not wrong I want you to read my thread "tithe and Offering".
Shey we are copying the lifestyle of Jesus and the early days Christians. You guys problem is that you don't take time to study the bible.
I have just 2 questions
1.was there any record of Jesus paying tithe
2. Was there any record of the apostles paying tithe

Some pastors go as far as preaching that if you don't pay your tithe you will go to hell.
But all Jesus said about it was "you leave the weightier things of the kingdom (salvation, love,) for the less weightier things(tithe)

If at all u are giving to God.. Give that money, tithe, seed or whatever you call it to poor servants of God who need and widows and orphans and less privileged.
As far as it States in James 1:27

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


God bless you sir.
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 11:27am On Apr 10, 2015
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Actually, your message is very clear, those who tithe are not saved and don't know the gospel. I'll tell you what. Mr A is admitted into school. Mr A sees the advantage, privilege and organization of education. Mr A puts in his all making it worth the while; improving and preserving the quality of life around him all through his stay instead of waiting for government and school authority to spoonfeed him and do it all. Mr A is a responsible man. Yes!


Sorry to say. You lack basic comprehensive skills. I hope someone else can help you out.
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 11:20am On Apr 10, 2015
Hiswordxray:

Jesus is the High Priest therefore we must pay tithe to the High Priest, Jesus.
But you may ask, how can we locate Jesus and pay tithe to him?
Saul was persecuting the Church and Jesus told Paul, "Why are you persecuting me?"
Just as Jesus is the head, Jesus is also the body. The body of Christ is Christ himself. When you give to fellow believers then you have given to Christ.
Therefore we are to give even more then 10% to how fellow believers. The truth is that we are one with other believers and this means everything we have also belongs to other believers and everything other believers have also belongs to us, Just as God has given us His fullness through Christ.



I never said giving to fellow believers is wrong. The son of a giver, should also be a giver. it is rewarding when we financially support the ministry of Jesus. People supported Jesus financially, when he was on earth then. If i begin to work, i will learn to give at-least 20% of my income to a good ministry, for the spread of the gospel of Jesus. I am only against the title of a giving called tithe (10% of your monthly income). The notion behind it does not give glory to the victories that we have in Christ Jesus. sons of God don't pay tithe, but instead give willingly, cheerfully and bountifully. Have a pleasant day.
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 11:00pm On Apr 08, 2015
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Are you threatening me? Anyway, your message has to be very clear and to the point. Your message is that people like me who tithe have not seen the light, or the true gospel. Is that right? Those who tithe are not saved, is that correct?
your reply is making me to laff seriously here. I did not threaten you oo. Why are you finding it difficult to comprehend my messages ?. Let me help you out again. Mr A is admitted to a university, after fulfilling the entry requirement. Mr A is now a jambite with little knowledge on his rights in the school. Mr B approached mr A, and lied to him that the school said he must pay him 1k monthly for freedom of working freely on campus. Mr A kept paying the money. Now is it right for mr A to pay the monthly 1k to mr B ?. No! is mr A still a member of the university ?. Yes!
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 8:58pm On Apr 08, 2015
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Okay i yaf hear you, anyone that pays tithe as not seen the true gospel, according to tunde4top.
stop pretending as if u did not understand that quote. Read it carefully again, and then quote me back. One thing is to be saved, another thing is to understand who you are in christ, and another thing is to work in the understanding of who you are in christ. It is very shameful that many sons of god fall into this tithe manipulation. Stop trying to dodge the truths in this writup. The holy spirit inspired me to come up with this writeup. Dont be rebellion to the message of light and emancipation that are embedded in this tread. God bless you, and have a comfortable night rest.
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 5:10pm On Apr 08, 2015
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Okay if we pay tithe, we have not seen the light of true gospel.


that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that god raised him from the death, thou shall be saved (romans10:9).
and brought them out, and said,sirs, what must i do to be saved ? (act16:30). and they said believe on the lord Jesus, and thou shall be saved, and thou house ? (act16:31)
yes, it is easy to see from the above verses that tithe has no business with salvation in Christ, so why then do you pay tithe, or compel people to pay tithe ?
must i pay tithe to be rich ?
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 2:12pm On Apr 08, 2015
kushsy:
Hello Mr Die Hard No Tithe Payer..Its God with a Capital G.......or the Bible Said otherwise too?
jesus will open your eyes to see the light of its true gosple, in the name of jesus.
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 1:37pm On Apr 08, 2015
lonzo:
I always wonder why this issue of tithing is been discussed all the time .. 90:10 is that much to ask . Besides if you dont pay tithe doesnt mean God wont bless you but he will bless someone who does .

My own opinion if you dont want to pay dont make it an issue .
who need our tithe ?. God or pastors ?. If it is god, then where does god lives ?. Who are pastors ?. Are pastors saved different compared to other believers ?. Do pastors have special link to god, compared to other sons of god. Please answer my questions above.

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NYSC / Re: Nysc 2015 Batch A by tunde4top(m): 6:27pm On Apr 07, 2015
jamesbro:
please on my dash board its writing no valid signature what should I do?
sign on a plain white paper, snap it with your phone camera, send it to a browsing system, use snipping-tool on window-7 to recapture the main part of the signature, save it with -portable network graphic- file format ( that will make the size to be far less than 7kb), and then use the scanning option on your dashboard to upload it. Cheers!
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 3:00pm On Apr 07, 2015
Good afternoon everybody. Hope you are all doing well.
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 11:19am On Apr 07, 2015
pastorisrael:
your points are valid.he just wants to escape from paying his tithes. .


i have responded to his point (s).
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 11:17am On Apr 07, 2015
RobinHez:

Brother, u still haven't answered me! Was the law given when Abraham paid his tithe? Remember Abraham was called the father of Faith (believing without seeing)


you cannot directly compare us with the Abraham of that time. Abraham believed on what was to be accomplished in future (the promise of the holy spirit by Jesus). while we believed on what have been accomplished (and we can instantly fill the effect)
had Jesus died for the sin of mankind when Abraham paid tithe ?
was Abraham sealed with the promise of the holy-ghost when he paid tithe ?
was Abraham called the son of god when he paid tithe ?
we are leaving in the rein of realities. how dare you expect the son of god to pay tithe. to who ?. except to my father (god) in me....
can you show me just a verse where jesus paid tithe on earth in the bible ?
can you show me a verse in the bible, after the fulfillment of the holy spirit, where a son of god paid tithe ?
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 10:18am On Apr 07, 2015
femicyrus:
My boss asked me to sign a surety form for a loan and I asked him 'sir, what do you want to do with this money, he replied " I want to develop my site into a church" I said ok and I signed for him. Then he went further to say that by the time members begin to pay tithe, he will have a steady and enough money to pursue his PhD! Since then I........ You know what I mean.
you are right sir. I hope the gullible members will study the bible on there own, and clearly see this truth!
Education / Re: Pls I Need Help In My Studying by tunde4top(m): 9:03pm On Apr 06, 2015
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Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 1:54pm On Apr 06, 2015
Larryfly:



I thought you were a bible scholar untill I read this comment now I doubt if you arw even a christain. The spirit using you is the same spirit that tempted Jesus with the sound knowledge of the scriptures. You know nothing about faith but you claim to know everything about tithe. Let me tell those that might stumble on this thread as you are already possessed, faith is the reason we pay tithe or even give alms as christians. And the faith is blind..yes..you believe in something you have no reason to. That is the faith of a true christain. For if we rely on reason and evidence to be convinced, then we cannot even be christians


don't believe a doctrine because you were born into a family that believed it, or because you were brought up to believe it, or because the environment you grew up from believed it, but instead believe a doctrine if the bible actually say so. the bible is the only book profitable for research and evidences of any biblical doctrine. you miss interpreted my message and then labeled me as someone being possessed by demons, but don't worry, you are forgiving. if you can sit down on your own, and carefully study the bible on your own from genesis to revelation, you will clearly believe this writeup. i am a christian today, because i am very sure and convinced that Christianity is the way, and not because i was born born into a christian home. the doctrines in the bible are not fictions/imagination but realities. yes, miracle is very real . yes, tithe was real then, when the tabernacle was a physical building, but the moment Jesus made us the tabernacles, tithe became the things of the past, because we are now the tabernacle that demands for our tithe, and that made us the collector of our tithe. have a nice day sir.

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Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 9:57am On Apr 06, 2015
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My faith comes by the Word of God, not by 'scholar' gymnastics.
what will you gain from trying to twist my points ?. I was not telling you to reseach your faith or look for it evidences beyond the bible. 2timothy3:16 says all scripture is given by inspiration of god, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof (evidence), for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

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NYSC / Re: Nysc 2015 Batch A by tunde4top(m): 7:57pm On Apr 05, 2015
1191chi:

THE CALL-UP LETTER!
As an indication/notice that you're recognised as a
graduate and that a provision has been made for you
to serve as a Corper. This usually contains the state
where you've been posted.
Some get so excited when they receive their Call-Up
letter while others frown.
So also is the Divine Call-Up letter called death we
all shall receive one day. Just like some are called
up as Stream 1 while others as Stream 11, some
will receive theirs earlier before others.
As the academical call-up letter contains ones state
of posting among the 36 statesu of Nigeria, this
divine call-up also contains ones place of posting
which could be either HEAVEN or HELL.
Unlike the first call-up letter which can be
influenced to a state that is preferable to you, this
second Call-up can't be influenced.
Have you asked yourself this question; Where will I
be posted in this second Call-Up letter, in Heaven or
in Hell?
Though the two Call-ups comes once in a lifetime,
but you can defer or escape the first one but you
can never defer/avoid or escape the second call-up
letter.
My dear one, Certificates will perish one day.
influence your Call-up letter and posting by
Accepting Jesus as your Personal Lord and Saviour.
Except a man be Born Again (B.A) he cannot see the
Kingdom of God.
I like the concept u used to pass this great information ac


hmmmmm.our pastor in the lord.
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 7:54pm On Apr 05, 2015
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You have a right to your doubt, i have a right to my faith.


yes you are right, but faith is not blind. faith should come as consequences of evidences, research and conviction. if you were born into a non christian family,and you refused to challenge the faith with evidences, research, and conviction, then you will never be a christian today.

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Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 6:17pm On Apr 05, 2015
RobinHez:

Brother!
1. The law wasn't given to Moses when Abraham payed his tithe to Melchizedek.
2. The law was meant for the jews, and even the jewish apostles still practized them.
3. God commanded that tithe should be payed so that there would be meat in His 'House'...that's where ur stinginess comes in; would God use someone without helping the person. How would u feel being a pastor and after God has used u mightily, u're hungry.
At a time God was angry with the levites because they left their duties to go and farm because the people had abandoned them.
Lastly, the Almighty God said it Himself (He's not a man that repents of what He said);That the first-fruit of our offsprings was His (try tracing Melchizedek)



Also, God never said we would be rich by paying tithe, but we both know what happens when we don't.


your points above are contradicting each other. your opposing points are also perfectly clarified in the write up (you will see them,if you can patiently read the writeup again).

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NYSC / Re: Nysc 2015 Batch A by tunde4top(m): 4:38pm On Apr 05, 2015
Hopez456:
Checked mine now saw something like "registration has closed u cannot continue or edit... "
i encountered the same thing also when i tried to enter my dashboard in the morning. That should be for everybody.
Religion / Re: Is There Really A Place Where People Get Roasted by tunde4top(m): 1:30pm On Apr 05, 2015
No. Hell fire is an event that will occur once on the judgement day. People normally mistaking hedis (a place where the spirit of people that die live) to hell fire. Men can kill the body of men, but only god can kill the spirit of men. Hell fire is an event where the rejected spirits in hedis will be killed or destroyed, once and for all by jesus. The worst thing that can happen to a man is to return back to the state of vanity and non existence that he was, before he was born. While the advantage of believing in the gosple of jesus is for your body and spirit that were formed in your mothers womb to be kept forever in paradize. The choice is yours!

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Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 9:32am On Apr 05, 2015
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lol, another emotionally disturbed antitither on the loose. The devourer keeps disturbing them and possessing them.
the devourer that refused to devour non christians from being rich ?. The devourer that still succeeded in devouring many tithe and first fruit payers ?. if u truely believe on this brainwashed tithe payment, then i have every right to douth if you are save at all.

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Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 10:42pm On Apr 04, 2015
keylogger:
Op is a devil's advocate.


i am not, and you know that dip down in your heart. we give willingly in Christ, and not by laws. the notion behind the payment of tithe and first fruit contradict the victories in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. one of the problems that some believers have is that, they still see pastors as the old testament prophets (i.e Moses), that stands in between them and god (high priest). pastors are experienced believers that lead the baby believers, and guide them to know more about Christ, and their inheritance in Christ Jesus. these kinds of pastors are now taking the advantage of this leadership opportunity to manipulate members (fellow believers) to pay god tithe, through there bank accounts. god of light will free you from this manipulation.
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 10:05pm On Apr 04, 2015
if the mod can move this tread to front page, i will be happy, because i am emotionally disturbed with the way my fellow believers are being manipulated with this issue of tithe. pastoral work is a choice to serve god, and it will be rewarded in heaven. pastors should also work for a living, the way other believers in there congregation do. the pastoral word has now turn to a business venture. they now squeeze the pocket of my fellow believers by manipulating them in many ways, by wish payment of tithe and first-fruit are part of it. the eyes of my people must be opened. many people are now trying to be a founder of a church, because they know that they will be the ones to collect the tithe money from all their branches, headed by some junior pastors that also collect some percentage. in most of this kind of churches, each branch pastor will take 10% of the overall tithe money, and send the remaining 90% to the account of the boss on top. if you still don't believe this, then read my write up, and come and prove me wrong.
Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 9:28pm On Apr 04, 2015
RobinHez:

Brother!
1. The law wasn't given to Moses when Abraham payed his tithe to Melchizedek.
2. The law was meant for the jews, and even the jewish apostles still practized them.
3. God commanded that tithe should be payed so that there would be meat in His 'House'...that's where ur stinginess comes in; would God use someone without helping the person. How would u feel being a pastor and after God has used u mightily, u're hungry.
At a time God was angry with the levites because they left their duties to go and farm because the people had abandoned them.
Lastly, the Almighty God said it Himself (He's not a man that repents of what He said);That the first-fruit of our offsprings was His (try tracing Melchizedek)



Also, God never said we would be rich by paying tithe, but we both know what happens when we don't.


i am not going against people that compensate the work of pastors with financial reward, but i am against the way pastors try to manipulate there fellow believers, by lying to them that they have the dept of tithe and first-fruit to pay god through them. it is a big lie. the eyes of your understanding will be opened if you can read the write up.

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Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 1:04pm On Apr 04, 2015
RobinHez:
I didn't read a word from what u wrote...
But all I know is, u're giving urself excuse not to give God what He's due...believe it or not. #stinginess .
if you dont open your mind to see the perspective that others also view things, how will you be sure that what you currently believe on is not wrong ?. i will never believe what i cannot defend!

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Religion / Re: If You Read This And Still Later Pay Tithe And First-fruit, Then Prove Me Wrong. by tunde4top(m): 12:35pm On Apr 04, 2015
Solowande:
Guy, some things are just left d way they are. One of them is d issue of tithe. Don't judge so dat God will not judge u and don't condemn what God had not condemn. The issue of tithe in my church is matter of choice. If u decide to pay, d pastor will thank God. But if u say u won't pay nobody will crucify u or sent u out of d church. It Is as simple as dat
search for the truth, and it shall set you free. Please learn to believe after being convinced.

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