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Religion / Re: Pastors And Staging Of Miracles. by Ukutsgp(m): 6:21pm On Nov 15, 2014 |
this is a very bad development by pastors. |
Religion / Re: Infants Baptism Is Not Supported In The Bible. Take Note. by Ukutsgp(m): 2:50pm On Nov 15, 2014 |
It is true that boy babies were circumcised in Israel when eight days old (Gen. 17:12). But baptism and circumcision are two entirely different matters. Circumcision was for boys and men only, while baptism is for both sexes alike. Circumcision was for every boy or man of Hebrew blood, while baptism is only for saved people. Circumcision and baptism mean entirely different things. Circumcision meant that this child was an Israelite, one of the chosen race by natural birth. Baptism means that the one baptized is born again and one of God's children by a birth from Heaven. One has no right to be baptized until he is born as God's child. The Bible does not mention nor talked about baptism of babies. it is just one of those catholic traditions which have no bearing with the scriptures. man made traditions. |
Religion / Re: Infants Baptism Is Not Supported In The Bible. Take Note. by Ukutsgp(m): 2:40pm On Nov 15, 2014 |
btoks:me i dnt believe. u can tell me why u believed it. babies have no original sin. prove it here and let ask u questions. |
Religion / Re: Infants Baptism Is Not Supported In The Bible. Take Note. by Ukutsgp(m): 2:36pm On Nov 15, 2014 |
btoks:i know u want to switch to tradition now. one thing the catholic likes doing. let me make it clearer with niv version. starting from verse 10 down to 12. and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority. In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ, having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead . - NIV, Col 2:10-12 I know u will want to claim that the words ''having been'' places the baptism at equal time with the circumcision, thereby proving that one answers to the other but it is not. i am convinced that no one would have ever seen such thing in this text had they been reading it through unsoiled glasses. your argument is manifestly erroneous at several points: 1) Even if the circumcision and baptism in this text were contemporaneous, this would not prove they are the same. If baptism replaced circumcision, then why are they both still of force in this text? 2) An examination of the full context shows that the timing of the circumcision and baptism are relative to the words, And ye are complete in him . That is, they were circumcised and baptized as of the time they were complete in him, but they were not circumcised and baptized at the same time. 3) The NIV weakens the argument for infant baptism when it says, ... raised with him through your faith in the power of God, because one cannot prove that an infant has faith in God. an infants cannot reason who Christ is. 4) The practice of sprinkling the infant is clearly condemned by this scripture because it speaks of being buried with Him in baptism, thereby demanding immersion. 5) If baptism replaced circumcision, then why baptize women? 6) The circumcision of this text is made without hands , yet a baptism involves human hands to the same extent as a fleshly circumcision. The circumcision here clearly represents regeneration or the new birth. It is a circumcision of the heart and is performed by the Spirit (Rom 2:29). 7) This circumcision puts off the body of the sins of the flesh. pls try another thing, since this cannot work. pls u have not answered my questions. 1. how can u sprinkle water on a baby and call it baptism? 2. do u baptised those who have not heard the gospel and believe? 3. can a baby have faith in God? 4. why do u baptise someone who has not known how to commit sin . |
Religion / Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Ukutsgp(m): 11:08am On Nov 15, 2014 |
Pavore9:na u know sha. dnt say u were not told. |
Religion / Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Ukutsgp(m): 10:58am On Nov 15, 2014 |
johnydon22:christians are not deluded and confused people. it is only those that are not led of the spirit that are. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Ukutsgp(m): 10:03am On Nov 15, 2014 |
vest:u people are in gross delusion. the painful thing is that, u people dnt even know. |
Religion / Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Ukutsgp(m): 10:01am On Nov 15, 2014 |
Pavore9:typical of the catholic. |
Religion / Re: Infants Baptism Is Not Supported In The Bible. Take Note. by Ukutsgp(m): 9:38am On Nov 15, 2014 |
vest:i know u dnt have any clue about it. abeg bye. u people always does what is unscriptural. following traditions u dnt know anything about. |
Religion / Re: Infants Baptism Is Not Supported In The Bible. Take Note. by Ukutsgp(m): 8:46am On Nov 15, 2014 |
btoks:circumcision and baptism are two different thing. dnt muddled them up. i dnt see hw baptism replaced circumcision. it is ur own twisted view. |
Religion / Re: For Every Bible Question, There Is A Bible Answer. Ask A Sincere Question Here by Ukutsgp(m): 8:39am On Nov 15, 2014 |
vest:baptism alone does not save. if u hv nt repented and believe in the lord Jesus, u are just going to the river to bath. why do u people even sprinkle water on someone and call it baptism? i just laugh. pls come to that thread let's talk. i want to laugh today. |
Religion / Re: Things That A Christian Shouldn't Buy Or Sell by Ukutsgp(m): 8:08am On Nov 15, 2014 |
purplekayc:what is that? |
Religion / Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Ukutsgp(m): 8:06am On Nov 15, 2014 |
btoks:do u think that ur useless traditions is the bible? |
Religion / Re: Infants Baptism Is Not Supported In The Bible. Take Note. by Ukutsgp(m): 7:27am On Nov 15, 2014 |
how can one sprinkle water on someone and call it baptism? the catholic always gives me reasons to laugh. |
Religion / Re: Infants Baptism Is Not Supported In The Bible. Take Note. by Ukutsgp(m): 6:48am On Nov 15, 2014 |
@vest. like i said before, there is nothing like original sin or fake sin or whatever. before baptism, there must be repentance and believe on the lord Jesus. how can an infant repent of sin he or she has not committed? does an infant have the capacity to believe? |
Religion / Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Ukutsgp(m): 9:59pm On Nov 14, 2014 |
peteregwu:i cant say more. |
Religion / Re: Are Roman Catholics Christians? by Ukutsgp(m): 9:58pm On Nov 14, 2014 |
italo:this is the nonsense i hate. u claim that u people compiled the bible yet u people go against its teaching the most. |
Romance / Re: Is There Anything A Lady Can Do To Prevent Her Man From Cheating? by Ukutsgp(m): 7:27pm On Nov 14, 2014 |
seankafor:u will have someday. |
Religion / Re: Infants Baptism Is Not Supported In The Bible. Take Note. by Ukutsgp(m): 7:26pm On Nov 14, 2014 |
how can u baptised someone who dnt know or believe Jesus yet? |
Romance / Re: Why I'm Scared Of Dating A Virgin. How Can I Deflower Her? by Ukutsgp(m): 7:24pm On Nov 14, 2014 |
Cholls:what do u want me to say? |
Religion / Re: For Every Bible Question, There Is A Bible Answer. Ask A Sincere Question Here by Ukutsgp(m): 4:34pm On Nov 14, 2014 |
Hiswordxray:it may nt necessarily means that they read the book of Enoch. they were inspired by God to put it down. they must have got it through revelation. |
Religion / Re: For Every Bible Question, There Is A Bible Answer. Ask A Sincere Question Here by Ukutsgp(m): 3:46pm On Nov 14, 2014 |
SisterMe:exactly. they happened sequentially. Jude and peter were refering to those events as they happened basically due to disobedience and rebellion. citing those examples to all the false prophets he(peter) was talking about in verse 1 to 3 of 2peter 2. telling them that God will deal with them just like he did to those angels and people's of Noah's time and sodom and gomorrah who are rebellious and disobedient. |
Religion / Re: For Every Bible Question, There Is A Bible Answer. Ask A Sincere Question Here by Ukutsgp(m): 3:17pm On Nov 14, 2014 |
SisterMe:did i say they happened simultaneously? after the event of the sons of God, what happened next, was it not the flood? pls be sincere in this. Jude 6 and 2peter2:4 are both referring to that incidence. |
Sports / Re: Equitorial Guinea To Host AFCON 2015 by Ukutsgp(m): 3:04pm On Nov 14, 2014 |
Nigeria don't want 2 host it due to the election next year. that is the reason. 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: Pastors And Staging Of Miracles. by Ukutsgp(m): 1:41pm On Nov 14, 2014 |
Many pastors today perform miracles(many staged) and announce it everywhere. Jesus didn't even allow people he healed in his time to broadcast the miracles. He wants them to be silent about it. But many pastors today takes the glory themselves. They even boast that they can do miracles. |
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