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 Islam for Muslims / Re: Quranist: Has Jesus (AS) Passed Away? by usisky(m): 10:02pm On Aug 11, 2012 |
^^^Good my bro. Absolutely notn wrong in trying to unravel d mystery behind that great historical figure called jesus. I just feel we shld discuss d theme of ur OP rather digressing into smt'n else. Pls review d thread i cited above. Tel me wat u make of it. I will give a detailed exposition frm d quran once again wen i am not too occupied doing other stuff. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Quranist: Has Jesus (AS) Passed Away? by usisky(m): 9:23pm On Aug 11, 2012 |
^^^Can we pls stick wit d real intent of ur op. Pls do answer ma question above. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Quranist: Has Jesus (AS) Passed Away? by usisky(m): 9:07pm On Aug 11, 2012 |
Experiencing some connection problem. I'll use ma phone 4 now. now mr. Myers, don't you think your opinion above is simply conjectural? Those who subscribe to d "second coming" all agree he'll emerge in full splendor as jesus(with the body). Since u're a deist, hw did u arrive at dis opinion of urs? Pls do note that i do not agree wit d idea of sonship. Can u pls hint me what possible role dis "bodiless" jesus will play "if" he ever emerges? |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Quranist: Has Jesus (AS) Passed Away? by usisky(m): 8:35pm On Aug 11, 2012 |
PEACE Mr. Myers!! Quranist?! Anyways, i am not a quranist but a SUBMITTER(Muslim in Arabic). Please see:www.submission.org Yes indeed my good friend! Jesus, in fact is very much alive at his Lord. But as far as our domain(this world) is concerned,Jesus is very much dead(killed by the jews) and will NEVER EVER return again. I have ample scriptural proof to back that up,but i think i would just chill for now. Although i did address this a long time ago here: https://www.nairaland.com/369220/jesus-dead-according-quran; i think the issue deserves to be delineated further. Before then, i would want you to answer this: >>Based on the laws GOD(nature or whatever you subscribe to) has imposed on us. Do you, without a shadow of doubt, believe that a mortal- who's long gone(more than two thousand years today) from the face of the earth,would someday return? Just give me your honest opinion. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: ORIGIN OF HADITH: How "Muslims" Deviated From the Qur'an by usisky(m): 3:35pm On Aug 09, 2012 |
@Tbaba please refute d arguments in d vids. U may choose to respond piecemeal as u watch. Pls! |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Imam Ali’s Mathematical Brilliance: Whole Number And NOT A Fraction by usisky(m): 2:44pm On Aug 09, 2012 |
@Mr. LagosShia 1) I really wonder why none of these "Ahlul Bayt" were mentioned in the quran not even once. Don't you think if they were of any relevance to the religion of strict devotion to God Alone(Islam); that at some point the quran would've mentioned any of their names...Considering the fact that you even bestow on them divine status? Why did God fail to mention not even one name from the category you're suggesting? Maybe God didn't have to. Or, there was never such thing as people of the household("Ahlul Bayt"  as you would have us believe!!Your error as well as your aversion to the quranic principles stems from the years of brainwashing you have experienced through your Shi'ism. You do not know the meaning of "Ahlul Bayt", and if you doubt what i am telling you then Read Here: THE SHIAH CONFUSION OVER THE AHLUL BAYThttp://www.e-bacaan.com/artikeli_plagiarized3.htm . Scroll down the page till you get to chapter19, God will make things clearer to you. 2)Did the Qur'an at any point Say Prophet Muhammad was the Last Messenger? Please Read here: http://www.submission.org/#/d/App2.html please do comment afterwards. 3)I use the English equivalent of the Word Islam(i.e submission) and Muslim(i.e Submitter) because it conveys a better meaning than the Arabic one to an english speaker. The words Islam and Muslim aren't names, they are description of one's spiritual disposition;hence, it doesn't matter what language you use,what matters is that the meaning is preserved. Jesus, Saleh, Zul-kifl, Moses and all the Prophets and messengers in the quran a termed as Muslims. My question is: were they all Arabs? of course not! the quran used these words cos it(quran) was revealed in the arabic tongue, just in the same manner it uses ALLAH to refer to GOD. Obviously the word Allah existed even before the Quran,that's why you see that the Prophet's father is named Abdullah(Servant of Allah) for instance and the Christian arabs use Allah too cos it's simply refers to the one God we all know. What does Islam and Muslim mean?: http://www.submission.org/#/d/Home.html 4)where did you get the idea that Rashad Khalifa and the CIA are affiliates? Rashad Khalifa Introduces himself below: [flash=200,200] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWVsaSy9HXg[/flash] 5)please Mr. Shia, you really need to tame your usage of harsh language. PEACE!! |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by usisky(m): 11:57am On Aug 09, 2012 |
The best response to anybody who slanders or insults another person's belief-system is to simply follow these advices: usisky: These are the commandments of the Most knowledgeable....PEACE!! |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Imam Ali’s Mathematical Brilliance: Whole Number And NOT A Fraction by usisky(m): 10:59am On Aug 09, 2012 |
LagosShia: One Day a person came to Imam Ali (AS), thinking that since Imam Ali thinks he is too smart, I’ll ask him such a tough question that he won’t be able to answer it and I’ll have the chance to embarrass him in front of all the Arabs. usisky:^^^Why? Why? Why? enh?! Imam Ali that, Fatimah this, Imam hussain that, Ahlul Bayt this.........What's all these got to do with promoting the worship and total devotion to the One creator..God Almighty Hun?! I really feel sorry for You and Your Sunni counterparts. You people substitute pure reason and logic based on clear evidence given in the Quran for stories told by backward-minded folks of ancient times. Trading away the Qruanic wisdom for Ignorance. What! Sad indeed! LagosShia:^^^^Obviously this story is made-up by those who idolize Ali- the Shi'is. Firstly, we really wonder where this calendering system must have emerged from? Secondly, it doesn't take a genius to see how the authors of this lie intend to deceive the ignorant onlooker. Without thinking much, i know no man could've come up such math in that place and time in history. Observe the When you divide 360 by the numbers 1 to 10, all are divisible by it except 7, which yield a fraction. what then can one do to get a number divisible by all of em and still have the number(360)appear within the background. Well, Using elementary math knowledge, all you got to do is multiply the dividend(i.e 360) by the odd one among them(i.e number 7), the resultant number completes your math "trick". Voila! IMAM ALI must have been a genius! How silly! Remember how Tbaba also brought up somtn' similar only to be debunked by Logicboy using simple linear algebra.......U guys really need to heed the quran before it's late. usisky: |
| Islam for Muslims / 10 Good Reasons Why Hadiths Must Be Questioned! by usisky(m): 7:08am On Aug 09, 2012 |
| Islam for Muslims / Slavery And Islam (submission To God Alone) by usisky(m): 11:29pm On Aug 08, 2012 |
ALL PRAISES ARE DUE TO GOD Slavery is a very old practice that was gradually abolished in Islam (Submission). Many people out of ignorance or out of biased attack Islam (Submission) for its stand on slavery, distorting and misrepresenting the true stand of Islam (Submission). In this article we will see the great humane position of Islam on slavery. The central issue of slavery and equality is the concept of human dignity. In Islam, God has conferred honor and dignity on all human beings irrespective of their race, gender, age, social status and beliefs. In (17:70) God says: [Quran 17:70] We have honored the children of Adam, and provided them with rides on land and in the sea. We provided for them good provisions, and we gave them greater advantages than many of our creatures. Together with human dignity and honor comes freedom to live, the right to be respected on an equal basis before the law and to enjoy equal social treatment. Islam (Submission) stresses the equality of mankind as God created man from a common source and the only allegiance and obedience is to God, the Almighty creator. Islam has never condoned any form of discrimination. The only thing that sets men apart is their righteousness. [Quran 49:13] O people, we created you from the same male and female, and rendered you distinct peoples and tribes, that you may recognize one another. The best among you in the sight of God is the most righteous. God is Omniscient, Cognizant. Slavery has been gradually abolished by Islam, it did not come by decree or injunction but rather in the form of total management principles which were applied during the early periods of Islam and still applicable today if necessary. Slavery has long been practiced before the coming of Islam (Submission). In the pre-Islamic Egyptian, Jewish, Greek and Roman societies , slavery was in full use in different aspects. Aristotle subscribed to the idea that men were born not to be equal as some will become master due to their superior brain power and intellectual capacity while others will become slaves. The approach taken by Islam (Submission) is full of wisdom and at the same time provides a package of pro-active measures to eliminate this practice. It is a gradual but effective approach which combines several affirmative measures. The main strategy is: To narrow down the sources of slavery with a view to eliminating it all-together; and OPENING a wide avenue for slaves to gain independence. People became slaves because of criminal actions, unpaid debts, gambling, kidnapping, piracy, irresponsible parents who sold their children into slavery, being descendants of slaves, prisoners of war and voluntary submission to be a slave in order to get out from the miseries of life such as acute poverty. These were effectively reduced by Islam. The provision of slavery through wars was no longer important after the Islamic civilization redefined the mode of interaction between nations -- from power struggle to peaceful and productive coexistence. Indirectly but effectively Islam has closed this source of slavery. Islam (Submission) opened all the doors to free the slaves by setting up rules which greatly facilitated the emancipation of slaves: The initiative of Islam in promoting independence for slaves was carried out in the following ways: Encouraging the masters and the Muslim societies at large to help in freeing the slaves. The act of freeing the slave is considered a noble one which is highly valued by God. The slaves themselves entered into an agreement with the master to buy their independence by paying certain amounts of money. The society was encouraged to help in providing the freedom money. [Quran 24:33] “Those who cannot afford to get married shall maintain morality until God provides for them from His grace. Those among your servants who wish to be freed in order to marry, you shall grant them their wish, once you realize that they are honest. And give them from God's money that He has bestowed upon you. ………” Making the act of freeing the slave a part of punishment for any criminal act as well as for non-conformity of the Islamic rituals. There are several verses in the Holy Quran which specifically mentioned the requirement of freeing the slave as a way of meeting the punishment for wrongdoing. See 4:92, 5:89 and 58:3 Using Charity money as a financial source to free the slave. [Quran 9:60] Charities shall go to the poor, the needy, the workers who collect them, the new converts, to free the slaves, to those burdened by sudden expenses, in the cause of God, and to the traveling alien. Such is God's commandment. God is Omniscient, Most Wise. [Quran 2:177] “[b]Righteousness is not turning your faces towards the east or the west. Righteous are those who believe in God, the Last Day, the angels, the scripture, and the prophets; and they give the money, cheerfully, to the relatives, the orphans, the needy, the traveling alien, the beggars, and to free the slaves; and they observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat); and they keep their word whenever they make a promise; and they steadfastly persevere in the face of persecution, hardship, and war. These are the truthful; these are the righteous.” [Quran 90:10-13] Did we not show him the two paths? He should choose the difficult path. Which one is the difficult path? The freeing of slaves. Finally we can say that Islam found the slavery system already existing and put forward a plan to abolish it. No slaves or Free the slaves: Some people question why God in the Quran did not prohibit slavery and instead commanded and rewarded the freeing of the slaves. God, The Almighty, knows that slavery is a social disease that will persist as long as humans are present on earth. If the order in the Quran is to prohibit slavery, it would be a noble command but since ONLY the believers in the Quran would be the ones following the Quran, the command would not help slavery outside Islam (Submission.) Every Muslim would then free his slaves and remind the other Muslims not to have slaves any more and their duty stop at that. The command in the Quran to FREE THE SLAVES, does not stop at the Muslims or Islam but extend to all the slaves wherever they are. A muslim (Submitter) would therefore free any slaves he might have had and after that turns to any other slaves in any location and of any religion to free, as commanded by God in the Quran. In other words, the command to free the slaves is far more reaching and far more effective than the mere order to stop having slaves. Van Denburg, a non-Muslim historian says, "Many regulations have been made by Islam, showing how noble was the feeling of the Prophet Muhammad and his followers towards slaves. In those regulations, we find that the merits of Islam are contrary to all the systems used until recently by nations, who claim to be most civilized and developed." Islam never became a force nor a party that promoted and condoned slavery. A balanced analysis of this issue would recognize the wisdom of Islam in managing the heinous practice of slavery and effectively putting an end to it. www.submission.org www.miracleof19.org www.masjidtucson.org www.quranalone.com 1 Like |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: How To Become A Muslim(submitter) by usisky(m): 7:52pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
^^^^I really doubt ur analytical capacity mr shia! Y did i quote d bible& veda? Well to emphasize a point. D point bn dat we could still make out frm ds texts dat d true message in dem is total devotion to God alone without setting-up partners wit Him. Read d op again! of course we cld learn frm oda sources, ain't notng wrong in dat. But Wen one concocts a lie and attribute dem to God and d messenger, den dats entirely a dffrnt issue. If u do not realize, hadith is d reason u do not follow d quran no more. It's d reason u believe all d superstitions in d world: Mahdi, dajjal, infallible imams and all kinds of bizzare ideas. remember d prophesy: 25:30- d messenger wil complain about d desertion of quran on d day of jdgmnt after he's bn informed. Dnt u wonder y he would't care abt his so called sunnah and hadith? How ironic mr shia! Mr shia. Enjoy d rest of ur ramadan. Ain't got d energy. PEACE! PS: pls study d quran from cover to cover- no "Tafseers" just trust God He'll make it clear insha'allah. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Salaat From Quran- Invitation to Sweetnecta by usisky(m): 5:44pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
All d thread derailers are hereby pardoned. @Sweetnecter Let's assume for just a moment dat u'r right wen u say we wouldn't knw how to observe d contact prayer(sallat) without d hadith. Now how does dat explain d oda commandments in d scripture which are clearly stated, yet u ppl violate dem: 1)ablution-5:6 2)tone of all sallat-17:110 3)do not mention names oda dan God's in places of worship-72:18 there are hundreds of such example. Explain to me why God would say one thing in d quran, u find yrself doing contrary yet do not find it odd. Would God say smtng in d quran only for Him to ammend it elsewer? Woulfdn't dat strip God off His omniscience attribute? Why did He not perfect such commandment in first case? |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Which Hadith Do You Believe Besides The Quran? (45:6) by usisky(m): 4:34pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
Yes mr. Lagosshia! pls no ad hominems and no insults. U'Ve called me a fool b4 and dats d more reason i feel reluctant having dicussions wit ya. Now: 1)are d hadiths cited in d op sahih(authentic) or not? 2)contrast d phantasgomoric person potprtryed of d prophet by d hadiths and dat of a man of high moral character as depicted in d quran as cited in d op. 3)If u do agree with d "sahih" hadith in my op. Den can u pls give me a consensus compilation of d ones we should be following? If u do not have it,Den y is dat? At least for something dat explains d quran and guides u on how to follow d messenger-for which without it, d muslims are lost. der ought to be a consensus compilation somewher i would expect. Peace! |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Qur'an Alone? by usisky(m): 4:07pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
^^^^I wil answer all ur questions d moment i get access to a PC. Most probably tomrw...God willing! |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Qur'an Alone? by usisky(m): 4:00pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
@Sweetnectar -when did sallat begin? -show me from ur hadith how to observe the sallats...all of em! -u are d ones who go to Eid, i don't. I do not perforn extra sallats. -study ur quran u'l find how to observe hajj. Plus no stonning of d pillar symbolizing satan or visitation of a dead prophets tomb. let me show how lost u are so u may not think i do not have ur answers: 1)y do u say ameen wen in sallat? wat does it mean? Wat is its origin? 2)y do u recite suras in ur sallat? Think b4 u attemp to answer. 2)y do utter d prophets name in d house of worship? Remember 72:18, 39:3. wen u are ready to listen to God in d quran, He'll open ur veiled eyes. On a jorney right now. God willing, wen i return i shall resurrect ma past threads dealing wit dis. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: How To Become A Muslim(submitter) by usisky(m): 3:46pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
Ps: how did u arrive at d idea dat i do not study d hadith? If i didn't study dem, how den do u think i arrived at ma conclusions about it? also, can u please refer to complete compilation of d ones u believe are Authentic? Pls! |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: How To Become A Muslim(submitter) by usisky(m): 3:37pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
@lagoshia. Wat is d point of hadiths dat are in congruence with d quranic teachings if d quran already conveys d message? Der are many literatures, even fictional materials dat are in agreement with d quranic teachings, does dat make dem word of God? I will revive an old thread, u must answer line by line d arguments in d op if u are sure of urslf. Peace! |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Qur'an Alone? by usisky(m): 3:13pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
@Maclatunji these verses are enough as argument for ma case: -6:19 -10:15 -5:48:50 -69:38:40 -last verse of sura 50( sura Qaaf). anywaz, if u weren't insecure about ur version of d religion, u would not b deleting ma threads. D true message of d quran is too powerful for u to stomach enhh! Peace! |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: How To Become A Muslim(submitter) by usisky(m): 2:22pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
^^I'm referring to dis thread. Was responding to ur last comment. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: How To Become A Muslim(submitter) by usisky(m): 2:06pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
@Lagosshia firstly, i do apologize and i hope u dnt thnk i've got a cocky attitude....didn't mean to. my observations: 1) u never challenged d real subject of the post. Instead, u resorted to ad hominem. Do u agree with d op? If not..state ur reason(s) Y. 2)U gave conditions as to how i must respond ur querry. I cldn't keep to dat,hence ma disinclination to respond. if u had clearly read d op, u would comprehend ma reasons for quoting those texts. Is der any post i have ever made here dat suggests dat i use d Gospels or d Vedas as sources of religious guidance in par with d quran? Re-read d op again and again if u must. Pls no hating, just trying my best to convey d true quranic message free of all illogicalities and superstitions deviced by ignorant clergymen. PEACE & sorry for not responding ealier. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Qur'an Alone? by usisky(m): 1:36pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
@Logicboy by d way, i am not a quranist. I am a submitter(muslim in arabic). U may click any of d links in d op to get an idea wat dat means. Pls try to get ur facts correctly & never assume u knw. As regard ur allegations against d quran in d thread:5 ways to debunk d quran miracle or somtn of dat similtude. Pls go thru d web links. All ur querries are clarified der God willing. |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Qur'an Alone? by usisky(m): 1:27pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
^^^^No offense mr. Lagoshia. When Quoting from a scripture u acknowledge is from God our creator never seem to make any sense to u, Wat am i to do den? |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Qur'an Alone? by usisky(m): 12:46pm On Aug 02, 2012 |
^^^^ If an atheist like u can spot d parodox in that, i wonder y dey can't? I mean....God reveals a scripture dat requires support from another source  |
| Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Qur'an Alone? by usisky(m): 10:48am On Aug 02, 2012 |
Any comment or observations from the learned" Mullahs" in the house? Or nobody cared to watch? Hmmm....!! |
| Religion / Re: The Much Awaited Empirical Evidence!! by usisky(m): 9:17pm On Jul 30, 2012 |
PEACE AGAIN TO ALL!! The path to knowledge is fraught with consequences; but for the steadfast, every step towards its attainment is worth it. Cos at the end of it all......True and Pure Knowledge is the cure for all ignorance!! Those who do not harbor any prejudice in their hearts will appreciate the truth and see it for what it is. I do hope this is not perceived as battle of religions. A guidance from our creator is for all of us to ponder upon, and does not belong to any group who may foolishly and ignorantly believe they are its custodians. [size=14pt]9-BARRIER BETWEEN SEAS[/size] [55:19] He separates the two seas where they meet. [55:20] A barrier is placed between them, to prevent them from transgressing. [55:21] Which of your Lord's marvels can you deny? [55- Most Gracious, 19-21] A famous French oceanographer, J. Cousteau, gives the following account as a result of his studies in water barriers: “We studied the assertions by certain researchers about barriers separating seas, and noticed that the Mediterranean Sea had its own salinity and density and housed autochthonous fauna and flora. Then we examined the water of the Atlantic Ocean and discovered features entirely different from those of the Mediterranean Sea. According to our expectations, these two seas that merged in the strait of Gibraltar should present similar characteristics in terms of salinity, density and other properties. The two seas presented different features even though they were adjacent. This greatly puzzled us. An incredible barrier prevented the two seas from coming together. The same sort of a barrier had also been observed in Bab Al-Mandab in the Gulf of Aden connecting with the Red Sea. Subsequent to our observations, further researchers made it clear that the seas which had different characteristics had some barriers.” This fact that astounded oceanographers was revealed 14 centuries ago in the Quran. This aspect, not visible to the naked eye and appearing to be in conflict with the properties of water known to man, was first revealed to men in the Arabian peninsula, men who were not at all experienced in any sense with oceanography. THE COLORFUL WORLD IN THE DEPTHS OF THE SEA The barriers between adjacent seas demonstrate a rich diversity, a result of the perfect planning of God. Wherever we turn our gaze, the complexion of human beings, the infinite diversity of flowers, etc., demonstrate the marvelous diversity of God’s creation. The Quran refers to the waters that do not coalesce. This is because of a physical characteristic called “surface tension.” Thus, neighboring seas present different densities, salinity rates and compositions. These differences enable media that permit different species to coexist. Thus, fish, plants and microorganisms living under water present untold varieties. Water, that usually mixes easily, can turn into a wall thanks to God’s imposition and operation of physical laws, contributing to this variety. This fact is not affected by strong waves and currents. This property to which the Quran refers is a miraculous statement unknown at the time of the Prophet and presents clear evidence for the man of understanding. [25:53]He is the One who has set free the two seas; one is sweet and palatable, and the other is salty and bitter. And He made a barrier between them, a partition that is forbidden to be passed. [25-The Statute Book, 53] |
| Religion / Re: The Much Awaited Empirical Evidence!! by usisky(m): 2:50pm On Jul 30, 2012 |
[size=14pt]8-THE EARTH DOES ROTATE EVEN THOUGH WE ARE NOT CONSCIOUS OF IT[/size] [27:88] When you look at the mountains, you think that they are standing still. But they are moving like clouds. Such is the artistry of God, who disposes of all things in perfect order. He is indeed fully aware of what you do.[27-The Ant, 88] The mountains’ features seem to make them the most stationary components of the earth’s surface. The idea of the unattainability of mountains led certain primitive mentalities to believe in polytheism and fancy that the mountains were the abode of divinities. The idea of mountain peaks being beyond man’s reach was an illusion, as was also their stationary aspect. The verse refers to this illusion and speaks of the motion of mountains like clouds. If the mountains that had a stationary aspect did move, it would follow that the earth itself also moved. The verse thus dismisses the idea of a fixed world entertained as a consequence of false perception, and informed the public of the time of the movement of mountains, likening them to clouds. This sign, beyond the grasp of the public contemporary with the Prophet, led people to believe that it was a premonitory sign foretelling the end of the world. Even someone who had no knowledge of the Arabic language could see that this interpretation was groundless and conflicting with the Quran. In the verse it is stated that men believe that the mountains are stationary, but this is an illusion. It is impossible to deduce from the mountains in motion that this is to take place at the end of the world. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE EARTH DID ROTATE? These false assumptions deduced during the first century after the Prophet may be condoned after we read the commentaries of Sheikh Abdul Aziz Bin Baz from Saudi Arabia. As late as the 1970s, he claimed that the earth did not move and that anyone who asserted the contrary was considered to have committed a blasphemy. The Saudi Sheikh spoke as follows: “Anyone who thinks otherwise would be considered to have gone astray and be called on to repent. If he does repent, so much the better, if not, he will be declared to have uttered a blasphemy and be put to death, his estate being forfeited by the treasury of the Muslim State. If the earth rotated as they asserted, lands, mountains, trees, rivers and seas would turn into an absolute chaos. The Western lands would have changed directions and shifted to the East. And the Eastern lands would shift to the West changing the direction of the Kibla (Mecca), henceforth impossible to determine. As none of these happenings are observed, the assertion that the world is in motion is a false statement for many reasons.” We see that the opinions entertained about the stationary character of the earth were so firm that bigoted theologians disregarding the revelations of the Quran could utter that anyone who thought that the earth moved had to be subjected to capital punishment in the twentieth century! The Quran is full of miraculous revelations, but there is no end to the lies concocted in the name of religion. The people who took as their guide such concoctions and merely read the Quran as a textbook without understanding its meaning have done the greatest harm to religion. One must understand the reliability of the Quran and avoid all superstitions. Beware of Professional Religionists [9:34] O you who believe, many religious leaders and preachers take the people's money illicitly, and repel from the path of GOD. Those who hoard the gold and silver, and do not spend them in the cause of GOD, promise them a painful retribution.[9- Ultimatum, 34] We must beware of the class of the unenlightened and opportunistic who call themselves representatives of religion. True enlightenment is possible only by guiding ourselves by the precepts of the Quran. To adopt the Quran as our guide is the remedy against superstitions and the sine qua non of coming face to face with the truth. |
| Religion / Re: The Much Awaited Empirical Evidence!! by usisky(m): 2:23pm On Jul 30, 2012 |
I SAY PEACE ONCE AGAIN TO THOSE WHO CARE TO KNOW!! I'm providing this piecemeal so you may have the time to go through it. So also, that those who are keen investigators have time to at least investigate every bit of what i present here. [size=14pt]7-HEAVENS NOT SUPPORTED BY PILLARS[/size] [13:2] GOD is the One who raised the heavens without pillars that you can see, then assumed all authority. He committed the sun and the moon, each running (in its orbit) for a predetermined period. He controls all things, and explains the revelations, that you may attain certainty about meeting your Lord.[13-The Thunder, 2] The fact that the Quran speaks of scientific phenomena that could not be accessible to the level of knowledge at the time of the Prophet is a miracle in itself. While trying to emphasize this feature of the Quran, we often stressed that the Quran had, 1400 years ago, spoken of scientific facts that have only come to light in recent years, if not in the course of the twentieth century. One of the facts that could not possibly be attained by observations and research at the time of the Prophet is given in the verse quoted above. However, this discovery is certainly not of recent date. But at the time of the descent of the Quran, there was no general consensus about this. Even after the time of the Quran’s descent there were still people who believed that the world abutted mountains at both extremities. For instance, in the New American Bible, a picture is drawn to show how the authors of the Bible imagined the world. In that picture, the sky resembles an overturned bowl and is supported by columns (The New American Bible, St Joseph’s Medium Size Edition, and pp. 4-5). Ibn Abbas (d. 687 AD), Mujahid (d. 718 AD) and Ikrima (d. 733 AD) believed in the existence of pillars (mountains) supporting the sky, too. These persons asserted that the Quran’s verses referred only to what was visible and that in the portion of space invisible to the eye the pillars held up the sky. This had also been the contention of the Babylonians who believed that the sky abutted on mountains at its extremities. At the time of the Prophet, mankind did not know that the earth was spherical and that traveling in opposing directions led two people to the same spot. Therefore, the said subject of debate could not scientifically be accounted for at the time of the Prophet. Moreover, such a bold statement would have had deleterious effects on the Prophet’s credibility, and objections would not tarry to arrive. Those who claimed that Muhammad was the author of the Quran would not be in a position to account for such a statement. To appreciate better the value of these statements in the Quran, our imagination must go back to the time of the Prophet and try to guess at the mentality of the people. The Quran was revealed at a time when the airplane and the automobile did not exist, when the actual shape of the earth was unknown, when there was no such thing as a world map and when the majority of Arabs were illiterate. This is to remind the persons who claim that the authorship of the Quran should be attributed to the Prophet or to other writers at the time of the Prophet. So, if one considers that the statements of the Quran had been revealed in such a situation, the miraculous character of the explanations may gain a different dimension. HEAVEN’S SUPPORT Research conducted on planets of the solar system led us to conclude that none of them was surrounded by an atmosphere like the one that surrounds our world; and the way it is designed to make life on earth possible was a proof of the fact that God had decided that life thrives on earth. The gas molecules upon the surface of the planet move at a tremendous speed. If the gravitational force of the planet overcomes this motion, the planet would attract the gas molecules and the surface of the planet would absorb the gas molecules. On the other hand, if the gas molecules moved rapidly and could escape the planet’s gravitational field, they would pursue their travel in space. So, both the atmosphere and the balances established took place at a stage after the creation of the earth. The expression in the Quran, “He raised the sky, and set the balance” (55-Gracious, 7) is in perfect accord with the formation of the sky and the establishment of balance in it after the creation of the world. The formation of gas molecules in the form of the atmosphere and its fixation was possible only by the establishment of a balance, a balance between the gravitational force of the sphere and the speed at which the gas molecules travel. God contrived a precise balance in order to raise the sky high without pillars. However, this design had to be coupled with what was necessary for its perpetuity. [35:41] GOD is the One who holds the heavens and the earth, lest they vanish. If anyone else is to hold them, they will most certainly vanish. He is Clement, Forgiving.[35- Initiator, 41] [45:13] He committed in your service everything in the heavens and the earth; all from Him. These are proofs for people who reflect. |
| Religion / Re: Hubble Space Telescope Images And The Glory Of GOD - This Is Not A Coincidence by usisky(m): 11:12am On Jul 29, 2012 |
Jenwitemi: Answer not clear. Stop cutting and pasting obscure quotes from obscure texts in obscure books as your answer. Be more clear and specific. Are you a slave of allah? Apologies My friend. Quotation is taken from the Quran. The numbers in the square parenthesis; first number before the colon indicates chapter number, the number after that is the verse number. @Bold. Here I'll put your intelligence to a test: 1)What or who is allah? 2)Why do you suppose the Quran uses the Word allah? When you're done answering , i'll then give my response. PEACE!! |
| Religion / Re: Hubble Space Telescope Images And The Glory Of GOD - This Is Not A Coincidence by usisky(m): 9:41am On Jul 29, 2012 |
Jenwitemi: Which God, though? This God: [55:36] Which of your Lord's marvels can you deny? [55:37] When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint. [55:38] Which of your Lord's marvels can you deny? [55-Most Gracious, 36-38]  This is an image taken by Hubble space telescope of the "Cat's Eye Nebula"; an exploding star 3,000 light years away. The image was published by NASA on oct.31, 1999. This is the image appearance when certain celestial bodies explode. You may wish to read the verses above again-how accurate a description. Also corroborate the image with what Mr. frosbel posted earlier. Which of your Lord's marvels can you deny? |
| Religion / Re: The Much Awaited Empirical Evidence!! by usisky(m): 5:59am On Jul 29, 2012 |
[size=14pt]6-DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SUN AND THE MOON[/size] [10:5] He is the One who rendered the sun radiant, and the moon a light, and He designed its phases that you may learn to count the years and to calculate. GOD did not create all this, except for a specific purpose. He explains the revelations for people who know. [10- Jonah, 5] The sun as a nuclear reactor is our world’s source of light and heat. The quantity of radiation reaching our world from the sun that warms our world in the cold of space is two per billion of the sun’s total quantity of radiation. The moon is not a source of heat and light like the sun. This difference between the sun and the moon finds its description in the Quran, i.e., the sun’s light is expressed by the Arabic word “ziya” (radiant) and the moon’s light is expressed by the word “noor” (light). The word “ziya” meaning radiation has the connotation of light and heat, while “noor” does not have such a connotation. Other attributes of the sun in the Quran are similes such as “seraj” (torch) or “wahhaj” (lamp). Both “seraj” and “wahhaj” emit heat and light through the fire burning within them. The fact that such attributes are not used for the light of the moon shows how refined the style of the Quran is. AMENITIES OF THE SUN The energy generated by the sun in just one second is equal to the energy that three billion power stations would generate on earth in a year. The world receives but two per billion parts of the overall radiation coming from the sun. The slightest decrease in this quantity would turn our world into a place no longer habitable by human beings, as ice age would reign. The distance of our world from the sun, the size of the sun, and the power of reactions within the sun are all calculated infinitesimally. We are part of these calculations. The slightest change in the figures would make life on earth impossible. The creation and the perpetuation of these critical values are the sine qua non of our lives. The sun rotates around its own axis while moving towards a particular destination; the earth, on the other hand, has a variety of movements; it rotates around its own axis, revolves about the sun, being dependent on it, and is affected by the moon. In all the rapid movements, our world changes all the time according to the position of the solar system and galaxies. None of the movements affects our position in relation to the sun nor puts an end to our life on earth. Life requires carbon-based molecules. These are only generated between -20 degrees Celsius and +120 degrees Celsius. The range of temperatures is vast in the universe, the heat in stars rises to millions of degrees and falls until -273.15 degrees Celsius is reached. The bracket for the ideal medium for the formation of carbon-based molecules is just a thin slice, one per one hundred thousand of the existing heat differences. Had the world failed to conserve its existing heat and quit the bracket it is in, that would be the end of us. But our Creator is ever conscious of our actual needs and everything is controlled by Him. [13:2]- ...He has subjected the sun and the moon. Each one runs for an appointed term. He regulates all affairs, and explains the signs in detail that you may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord. [13-The Thunder, 2] [20:98] Your only god is God. There is no other god but He. His knowledge encompasses all things. [20-Ta-He, 98] |
| Religion / Re: The Much Awaited Empirical Evidence!! by usisky(m): 5:25am On Jul 29, 2012 |
[size=14pt]5-THE SUN ALSO MOVES ALONG[/size] [36:38] And the Sun moves on to its destination. That is the ordinance of the Mighty, the Knower. For a long time in the past men thought that the earth was stationary and that the sun revolved around the earth. Later Copernicus, Kepler and Galileo postulated the theory that the sun was stationary and that the earth revolved about the sun. It was even later, thanks to sophisticated telescopes and the accumulation of cosmological data, that it was concluded that the sun was moving as well and the earth revolved about the sun in motion. Despite the fact that it took science this long, this motion of the sun had already been told 1400 years ago in the Quran. Contrary to the assertion that the sun traced a vicious circle about the earth or that it was stationary, the 38th verse of the sura Ya-Seen stated correctly that it moved on to its destination. As in other subjects, in this one also the Quran is the source that gave a correct account of the sun’s motion. THE METHOD OF THE QURAN AND THE METHOD OF SCIENCE A book of science purports to demonstrate the theses it advances and the points of reference. The Quran is the message from the Creator of the Universe and describes the Universe in the word of its Creator, in a style different from that of a book on science. The fact that basic statements about the universe in the Quran were destined to come to light after the lapse of more than a millennium, that none of its statements referring to various scientific issues contained errors, shows that the Quran is the book of the Creator of the Universe. Unlike a scientific treatise that tries to find answers to such inquiries into the whys, wherefores and hows and seeks corroborative proofs to theories advanced, the Quran makes final statements. The scientific method has to follow a well-known path before it formulates the postulates toward which the Quran draws a beeline. RISING POINTS OF THE SUN [37:5] The Lord of the heavens, and the earth, and all that lies between them, and the Lord of the easts* (places where the sun rise).[37-The Arrangers, 5] commentary: *Every heavenly body rises on the planet earth, and sets. Every rise is called "east." Because the earth has a spherical shape, the sun that rises somewhere sets simultaneously somewhere else. Night and day chase each other. Therefore we cannot speak of a given point from which the sun rises, but rather of different points. The hour of dawn is different at every single point of our sphere. Every spot on the earth expects the rise of the sun while it is “rising” at different spots in space. The sun we behold every morning is a giant nuclear reactor. This reactor, generated by the conversion of hydrogen atoms into helium, performs its task marvelously. We continue our journey in space unaware of the immense speed of our source of life toward our predestined point. God’s omnipotence and the Quran’s miracles will unfold to those who take heed, who have an inquiring mind and are truthful in their approach to the Quranic verses. [29:43] We cite these examples for the people, and none appreciate them except the knowledgeable. [29-The Spider, 43] |
| Religion / Re: The Much Awaited Empirical Evidence!! by usisky(m): 7:11am On Jul 27, 2012 |
[7:185] Have they not looked at the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all the things GOD has created? Does it ever occur to them that the end of their life may be near? Which Hadith(Narration,Speech,Sayings) beside this, do they believe in? [size=14pt] 4-CREATION IN PAIRS[/size] [36:36]Glory be to the One, who created in pairs all things that the earth produces, as well as themselves, and other things they do not know.[36-Ya-Seen, 36] The Arabic word “azvaj” is the plural of “zavj” meaning “pairs,” “matches,” “partners.” There are three sorts of pairs in the Creation as described in the verse: a- Pairs that grow from the earth, i.e., plants that have species of differentiated sex; b- Human pairs, males and females. Also some included human characteristics like bravery / cowardice; love / hate; generosity /stinginess, etc. c- Pairs unknown: men did not know anything about the creation in pairs at the time of the descent of the Quran. In this section we shall be dealing with the latter in particular. THE DISCOVERY THAT WON THE NOBEL PRIZE AWARD The atom lies at the basis of all matter in the universe. A study of this smallest piece of matter may give an idea about the creation of everything in pairs (partners). As research conducted on the structure of the atom gained momentum, it became clear that the constituents of elementary particles were not limited to protons, neutrons and electrons and that their compositions were of a more complex nature and an unerring precision. Creation in pairs is also valid for elementary particles. A proton has its anti-proton, an electron is coupled with a positron, and a neutron possesses an anti-neutron. The creation of matter in pairs is one of the discoveries of towering importance of physics. Paul Dirac, a British scientist, was awarded the Nobel Prize in 1933 for his discovery in this field. His discovery (Parity) led to the discovery of the fact that matter has an anti-matter. God’s ingenious calculation is also seen in the numbers of protons, electrons, and neutrons, and of their respective pairs. Let us take as an example the electron and its counterpart, the positron. When these two get together, energy is generated. If there were 15 units of positron versus 10 units of electrons, 10 units of electrons and 10 units of positrons would be eliminated leaving behind 5 units of positron. If their numbers were equal, there would emerge only energy,leaving behind no electrons or positrons. The survival of protons, electrons and neutrons depends on the quantities higher than their respective pairs, while the numerical balance between electrons, protons and neutrons is also important. For example, if the number of electrons were less than the number of protons, there would be no life in the universe. All the fine calculations in our existence are based on this fact. Had one single formation of thousands of phenomena been left to chance, we would not have been on our planet today. We exist thanks to the omniscience of our Creator Who controls everything through His omnipotence. [51:49]And We created pairs of everything that you may contemplate.[51-The Dispersing, 49] |
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