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Religion / Re: The Much Awaited Empirical Evidence!! by usisky(m): 6:41am On Jul 27, 2012
[4:147] What will GOD gain from punishing you, if you became appreciative and believed?
GOD is Appreciative, Omniscient.


Throughout generations, there were men who when God showed them His signs-they acknowledged it,were appreciative and preached it to their people. Such was - Noah,Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Lot, John, Elias,David , Solomon, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad and many more known and unknown to us. Their Lord is ever appreciative of them. Let's all try our best, value humanity, preach love, peace and unity amongst us. Let's be appreciative of God's mercy on us like our ancestors.



[size=14pt]3-THE UNIVERSE IN GASEOUS STATE[/size]

[41:11] Then He turned to the heavens, and it was in a gaseous state. And said to it, and the earth; “Come into existence, willingly or unwillingly.” They said, “We come willingly.”[41-Elucidated, 11]


Dukhan” is the word used in Arabic for smoke, vapor and gaseous matter. It appears that the universe was a gaseous mass before it reached the state - by the will of God - from which the universe and the earth came to be. We know that our world, the sun and the stars did not come about immediately after the primeval explosion. For the universe was in a gaseous state before the formation of the stars. This gaseous state was initially made of hydrogen and helium. Condensation and compression shaped the planets, the earth, the sun and the stars that were but products of the gaseous state. The discovery of these phenomena has been rendered possible thanks to successive findings as a result of observations and theoretical developments. The knowledge of all contemporary communities during the time of the Prophet would not suffice for the assertion that the universe had once been in a gaseous state. The Prophet himself did not claim to be the author of the statements in the Quran as it often reminded, declaring that he is simply
a messenger of God.

[11:49] This is news from the past that we reveal to you. You had no knowledge about them - neither you, nor your people - before this. Therefore, be patient. The ultimate victory belongs to the righteous.



It is evident that the aim of the scientific miracles expounded in the Quran was not only to perform miracles, or to teach us some scientific facts. The knowledge provided by the Quran is of paramount importance. The Book focuses our attention on the ingenuity of the creation full of marvels. The fact that it miraculously predicted events, the knowledge of which was unattainable at the time of the revelation of the Quran, is not the only important point. It also provides consequential knowledge. Take for instance sura 41, verse 11: the fact that the Quran revealed 1400 years ago that the universe was previously in a gaseous state is a miracle. But the fact that the universe was not confined to its original state, but expanded in the wake of the primeval explosion and from this there emerged - within the framework of laws imposed by God - the stars, the planets, human beings and the magnolias are also part of His miraculous creation. In witnessing these miracles unfolded in the Quran we must not lose sight of the level of knowledge of the time and what is concealed behind the expressions.



[80:11]Indeed this is a reminder,
[80:12]For anyone who desires to bear it in mind.
Religion / Re: The Much Awaited Empirical Evidence!! by usisky(m): 12:48pm On Jul 26, 2012
[11:14] If they fail to meet your challenge, then know that this is revealed with GOD's knowledge, and that there is no god except He. Will you then submit?

[45:23] Have you noted the one whose god is his ego? Consequently, GOD sends him astray, despite his knowledge, seals his hearing and his mind, and places a veil on his eyes. Who then can guide him, after such a decision by GOD? Would you not take heed?


I am nobody's advocate. I am doing this because it's the right thing to do. We all are responsible for how we use
the reasoning mind we have been bestowed. I'll keep going slowly until we get to what i call "the ultimate miracle".
The websites in the OP i believe is sufficient.



[size=14pt]2-THE BIG-BANG[/size]


[21:30] Do not these disbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were an integrated mass, which We then split, and from water We made all living things? Will they not believe even then? [21-The Prophets, 30]




We deduce from the contents of this verse that it admonishes the unbelievers for ignoring the apparent miracles. The atheists’ basic contention is that matter has no beginning and that it is the matter that has generated everything, both living and inanimate things, by fortuitous act. The Big Bang theory refutes the basic assertion of atheism in positing that the universe and time had a beginning. “Do not these disbelievers see that...?” is significant. And as it is implied by this verse, the fact that the heavens and the earth were in a state of unity before they were rent asunder was something indeed conceivable by the human mind. The 1900s were the years during which scientific discoveries succeeded each other. Those were the years in which some people tried to point out the contradiction between science and religion. It was presumptuous of them as their whims had been indulged by the prosperity generated by the industrial revolution to idolize matter, daring to substitute it for God. The fact that matter was created - that it had had beginning - as proven by the Big Bang theory, was a blow for unbelievers. The concluding
sentence of the verse “Will they not believe even then?” is significant in that history confirmed the truth of this and the unbelievers remained adamant despite evidence produced.

Nevertheless, the arguments of this verse refute the unbelievers’ thesis of eternal matter and compel them to believe. This truth that was to be taken for a fact 1300 years after the revelation of the Quran was another warning for unbelievers. In history, there has been no one, other than the God through Quran, who claimed that the universe
had been expanding and that the heavens and the earth had been split asunder. Ancient Greece, the Middle Ages, the Modern Age, Plato, Thales - all those who had attempted to explain natural phenomena in natural terms - Ptolemy, Copernicus, Kepler and Kant, none of humanity’s great minds, had had an inkling of an expanding universe and of the fact that before creation the heavens and the earth had been an indivisible whole. Without the sophisticated equipment of the twentieth century at their disposal, and devoid of all accumulated scientific data, all of these celebrated philosophers and physicists had failed to take cognizance of this fact. The Creator of the universe communicated such important facts about His creation in His book and shed light on the celestial bodies, also proving thereby that the Quran had been His revelation. God unfolded to man the evidences of His creation, the creation that had originated from a single point in which man stood as another point. It is significant to note that while pointing at the comprehensibility of this revelation in the verse, “Do not these disbelievers see...?” He prefigures the stubbornness of unbelievers: “Will they not believe even then?” Einstein himself said that what astounded him was the comprehensibility of his discoveries about the universe, rather than the discoveries themselves. This shows how significant it was to stress the fact that these phenomena were in fact within the reach of man’s mental capacity.


COULD MUHAMMAD HAVE SENT A SATELLITE TO SPACE?

[7:132] They said: “No matter what kind of sign you show us,to bewitch us, we will not believe in you.”[7-The Purgatory, 132]
Religion / Re: The Much Awaited Empirical Evidence!! by usisky(m): 11:55am On Jul 26, 2012
Religion / Re: The Much Awaited Empirical Evidence!! by usisky(m): 12:46am On Jul 26, 2012
For Now, i will not be delving into doctrinal issues. You may already be guessing why, but this i think should be saved for last. What we should concern ourselves with is the proofs within the book.

As i present any issue, i will also be providing the scientific background supporting it- usually, this will be
quite lengthy. This should not be a problem for those who care to know. As i said earlier, these efforts aren't
mine, i am simply presenting it as is.

For those who've watched the video and are skeptical or apprehensive about the whole thing; please no need for that.
I believe most of us here are intelligent enough in discerning truth from falsehood. From the video, it's quite evident
that no ancient could've contrived the scientific statements found within the Qur'an- at least not 1400 years ago.

While the Qur'an is not a book of sciences, i do believe the author has strong reasons for including such. This will become manifest as we gradually progress. From the outset, i really want all of us to realize none of us chose to be where we're now. None chose to be born a Jew, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Sikh e.t.c If we're sure God is aware of that,then believe me, that's not what matters to God. What matters is how you take charge of your destiny and Where your Epiphany about Your existence in relation to the universe leads you. Do not let the clergy deceive and turn you into a sheep that is herded and wielded as desired. God will certainly be happy with you if you used your brain correctly.




[size=14pt] 1-WE LIVE IN AN EXPANDING UNIVERSE [/size]

[51:47]With power did We construct heaven. Verily, We are expanding it. [51-The Dispersing, 47]


Is the universe infinite? Or is it finite in a steady state? From the very beginning this has been a subject of debate between great minds. Hot debates and ratiocination of all kinds failed to clarify this dilemma. This had once been
the subject of philosophical speculations before it yielded its place to the science of physics. Some of the great minds argued that the universe was not a confined space, while others contended that its boundaries were drawn. The Quran describes it as a continuously expanding and dynamic universe. According to this description, the universe has a new aspect every instant that deviates from the concept of an infinite space; its perpetual expansion defies
the concept of a confined and steady state universe. Thus, the Quran propounds a third alternative, leaving the heated controversy of thinkers in abeyance.

This may contribute to the formulation of a judgment for the inquiring minds, probing whether the Quran is God’s revelation or not. We have, on the one hand, Muhammad in the desert, neither a philosopher nor a physicist, and, on the other hand, the assumptions of great thinkers and philosophers such as Aristotle, Ptolemy, Giordano Bruno, Galileo Galilei and Isaac Newton, to name but a few. The greatest minds in history, basing their arguments on observations and formulas they had ingeniously devised, claimed either that the universe had its confines or that it was an endless space, but it occurred to none of them to think of a dynamic expanding universe, until the 20th century when Edwin Hubble, by means of a telescope, demonstrated that the universe was expanding. The theory of expansion of the universe was first advanced in the 1920s. Until the descent of the Quran no other source had made such an assertion!


DISCOVERY OF THE EXPANDING UNIVERSE


There was a gap in Newton’s physics. Newton believed in an endlessly vast and static universe. His law of gravity encountered a problem. How was it that the physical bodies, in the course of eons, defied their mutual attractions and did not collapse into a unity? The formula that Einstein devised abandoned the absolute notions of space and time as
reference points for all objects in the universe. Basing his studies on Einstein’s formulas, Alexander Friedmann, a Russian physicist, discovered that the universe must be expanding. Georges Lemaître, a Belgian cleric, astronomer and cosmologist, formulated that the universe had begun in a cataclysmic explosion of a small, primeval superatom, like the growing of an oak tree from an acorn. This theory explained the recession of galaxies within the framework of Albert Einstein’s theory of general relativity. This idea was so incredible that even Einstein had problems accepting it, despite the fact that this all had originated from his own formulas. Einstein, rather, countered that physics was not the forte of Lemaître, and the universe was an infinite expanse and in a steady state. Lemaître’s theory posited that the universe was expanding. This was a statement that no philosopher and no scientist had ever before set forth. Kant had said in his Critique of Pure Reason that this was an enigma unsolvable by human intelligence. This theory fit everything and explained the reason why the universe did not collapse in spite of gravity. The key had fit into the lock. It was the correct explanation of the enigma. However, this statement met with the usual adverse reaction: “No, it is not the truth...”

Remaining outside the sphere of theoretical controversy, American astronomer Hubble was, about the same time, making observations with his sophisticated telescope in the Mount Wilson observatory. He observed that galaxies were receding from each other, which proved that the universe was expanding. In answer to those who said they could not believe in things their eyes had not witnessed, Hubble’s discovery led to the following declaration: “Now that you see it, you have got to believe it.” Hubble showed this by the Doppler Effect. Thus the wavelengths of receding bodies prolonged in the spectrum of light waves would shift to red, while, if the bodies approached each other, the wavelengths would shorten, shifting to blue. The light that came from galaxies that shifted to red showed that the galaxies were receding. In line with this observation, Hubble discovered a striking law: the speed of galaxies that receded was directly proportional to the distance between galaxies. The farther away a galaxy stood, the more its speed of recession accelerated. The result was tested again and again. In 1950, a high-magnification telescope was installed on Mount Palomar in the USA, the largest instrument of its kind. The new tests and controls justified this observation. The measurements made pointed to the fact that the creation of the universe occurred about 10-15 billion years ago.

Both Einstein and Lemaître took an interest in Hubble’s work; Einstein, who did not agree with Lemaître at first, eventually acknowledged during a conference that Lemaître was right after all. He confessed that his failure to endorse these findings had been the gravest error in his life. Thus it was that the fact that the universe was of a
dynamic nature and expanding, confirmed by observations, was also validated by the great physicist Einstein.
In the examples presented by Hubble and Lemaître, we see illustrated how a physicist arrives at a conclusion both in theory and through observation. While Lemaître demonstrated how he had made inferences from Einstein’s formulas to substantiate his theoretical discoveries, Hubble presented the data of his observations and his conclusions.
As we see, the result obtained by physicists is the consequence of cumulative and collective bits of knowledge and research. The Creator of physical laws provides the answer in the Quran to the issues of towering importance throughout human history. The Quran’s presentation of scientific facts is clear, direct, and concise; it is different than the presentation of scientists, which tends to be complicated by scientific methods and procedures. The provider of this answer does not have to go through all the labyrinths a scientist has to. The Quran’s method is perfectly straightforward, unswerving and explicit.

If we had the possibility of looking at the universe from above and somebody asked us to describe what we saw, our answer would be that it was expanding. To achieve the Quran’s revelation of this fact 1400 years ago, man would have needed access to the assistance of accumulated scientific data acquired throughout long years and to sophisticated telescopes. When people claim that science and religion oppose each other, the Quran furnishes answers to the most complicated scientific problems. Observations made by sophisticated telescopes today confirm the statements of the Quran. The Quran, perfectly aware of the human psyche with its prescience, states that non-believers will insist on their convictions regardless how many miracles are presented to them. Some ask: “Why did the people also not believe in Jesus, who had performed miracles and healed the sick and the blind?” This example demonstrates why the
majority of people did not believe in Christ and the other prophets, despite their miracles. Miracles change in fact as time goes by, but the negative attitude of most humans remains unchanged.




Yes....! It is too too lengthy you would say. But if you understood the significance of what we're discussing, then you would know why it ought to be so. Patience.....

Will continue tomorrow God willing.
Religion / Re: The Much Awaited Empirical Evidence!! by usisky(m): 9:28pm On Jul 25, 2012
Let me share a few Quranic verses with you before i continue from earlier:



[6:37] They said, "If only a certain sign could come down to him from his Lord!" Say, "GOD is able to send down a sign, but most of them do not know."

[6:38] All the creatures on earth, and all the birds that fly with wings, are communities like you. We did not leave anything out of this book.** To their Lord, all these creatures will be summoned.

[6:39] Those who reject our proofs are deaf and dumb, in total darkness. Whomever GOD wills, He sends astray, and whomever He wills, He leads in a straight path.

[17:59] What stopped us from sending the miracles is that the previous generations have rejected them. For example, we showed Thamoud the camel, a profound (miracle), but they transgressed against it. We sent the miracles only to instill reverence.


The man(Muhammad) tasked with delivering the final edition of God's message to the world was not given miracles like earlier prophets. The quran in many places alludes to the fact that the quran itself was the miracle:

[10:20] They say, "How come no miracle came down to him from his Lord?" Say, "The future belongs to GOD; so wait, and I am waiting along with you."

[29:51] Is it not enough of a miracle* that we sent down to you this book, being recited to them? This is indeed a mercy and a reminder for people who believe.

A Great Prophecy*

[41:53] We will show them our proofs in the horizons, and within themselves, until they realize that this is the truth.* Is your Lord not sufficient as a witness of all things?



Nothing can convince most people*

[6:7] Even if we sent down to them a physical book, written on paper, and they touched it with their hands, those who disbelieved would have said, "This is no more than clever magic."

[7:132] They said, "No matter what kind of sign you show us, to dupe us with your magic, we will not believe."


The Challenge Most people Still Give today: Until they see God Physically

[17:90] They said, "We will not believe you unless you cause a spring to gush out of the ground.

[17:91] "Or unless you own a garden of date palms and grapes, with rivers running through it.

[17:92] "Or unless you cause masses from the sky, as you claimed, to fall on us. Or unless you bring GOD and the angels before our eyes.


Requirements of the Test*

[6:158] Are they waiting for the angels to come to them, or your Lord, or some physical manifestations of your Lord? The day this happens, no soul will benefit from believing if it did not believe before that, and did not reap the benefits of belief by leading a righteous life.* Say, "Keep on waiting; we too are waiting."



NOTE: The use of plural tenses(e.g We or Us) in reference to God only means participation of other entities in carrying out God's commands. As an example verse will make it clearer:

[16:2] He sends down the angels with the revelations, carrying His commands, to whomever He chooses from among His servants: "You shall preach that there is no other god beside Me; You shall reverence Me."
Religion / Re: The Much Awaited Empirical Evidence!! by usisky(m): 9:23pm On Jul 25, 2012
okeyxyz: waoh!! Very interesting video. need to research more of it.

Crucial Advice*

[17:36] You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself.
I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for
using them.
Islam for Muslims / Why Qur'an Alone? by usisky(m): 12:32pm On Jul 25, 2012
Religion / The Much Awaited Empirical Evidence!! by usisky(m): 11:38am On Jul 25, 2012
I Begin In The Name of The Supreme being- GOD!

PEACE To ALL!!


Rule #1:
Never assume that you know, until you possess an unchallengeable proof supporting what you think you know.

RULE #2:
Those who sincerely and earnestly seek out truth should not really care about its source.what should matter most to them is if, in fact it is truth. As an example, does it matter if the truth about God is found in the Bible, Qur’an , Torah, Vedas, Avesta e.t.c.? No! What should matter is if such a source reflects observable truth- and our generation certainly possesses the yardstick to use in evaluating the veracity of any such claim.

RULE #3:
The greatest mistake a truth seeker can make, is to judge truth(or lack thereof)by the actions of any particular group or society;for truth on its own is self-sufficient. As an example, do we judge the truth about Jesus based on the actions (belief) of Christians? Absolutely Not. For the truth about Jesus may or may not be reflected in the behavior of Christians. Just as we should not evaluate the true teachings of Muhammad based on the actions of those who say they follow his way. Ultimately, we never judge or draw conclusions about God based on the actions of religious people or those disguising themselves as scientists(the bigoted materialist ones).

The following Thread: https://www.nairaland.com/996550/did-anyone-dead-living-witnessed
Prompted me into thinking i need to present this, after more than two years of considering it.

After going through this, those who contend that science and religion are adversaries and incompatible must accept one of the following :

1) Either what is asserted as religion has nothing to do with religious truth, thus, fabrications extraneous to religion must be purged;

or,

2) The so-called scientific data or assumptions are false. One should inquire then, by systematic observation and logical deduction, where the errors lie and then search for scientific truth.

Religion, as a system devised by God, cannot contradict the universal natural laws imposed by the same God. However, bigoted fundamentalists, styling themselves as God’s spokesmen, and orthodox scientists who deny the Creator of all sciences, do their utmost to prove the so-called contradiction.


At the end of this, we’ll inevitably end up with the following stratified categories:

1)Vast majority who will say they do not care if this is truth or not. That they are content with what they have as their own truth. This category will mostly comprise of Religious people.

2)Some who'll contend that what’s been presented as truth is all forgery. That such thing do not exist and will seek to make Hoax of the whole proceedings. These will comprise mostly of the ardent Materialists. In pre-emption of such, i would want those who will contend the veracity of what i present here to please provide me a plausible explanation how the information got into the source i will be deriving from.

3) Those i term the Elites amongst few. They are those ever ready to acknowledge the truth. This group comprise of individuals who labor day and night seeking answers to the most elusive question: Is there any such truth as GOD? They are open minded and sincere in their quest. Ultimately, what matters to them is truth. They may or may not comprise of categories 1&2 above.

I hope my prediction turns out wrong. Cos i would wish that everybody falls in catergory3, but that isn’t possible- as experience has proven to me!

The evidence i shall present here is derived from the [url=https://1cabb384-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/evidenceofgod/Quran.pdf?attachauth=ANoY7crHIi94BpCpL82I0hE2JqlVpklFwpoE95k4QBM7-Em8DRdYScbkqe4DvxaWGWlNHyAGeRm-LVQrxjCnDzj03YIJOi9dd12hK3cLavQI1yPIvcfbIj4hJmCl7dQYG8aeBF_hU1zcplt5t6WlukUhugpwk8rTjSQkDrfRo94x8OIhWsAaEimW1VZ38lslO6VURcYk3efLuRYPeTL7I-9BZLyH3w7DNA%3D%3D&attredirects=0]Qu’ran[/url]. If you’re already hissing, well that’s cos the truth is not meant for you, and you might as well just quit reading now!. For those who choose to remain objective and read on till the end, i will ask you please be patient ,read everything and pardon the lengthy write-up. The matter under discussion necessitates that it be so. As i present this, i will recourse to using many sources, and often i will Quote verbatim(copy –paste).



O My Lord, dear GOD, the ruler of the highest dominion. The possessor of all kingship. The source of all realities. The eternal constant. As i undertake this in your service, i pray you grant me the proper understanding, remove all prejudice from my heart, grant me eloquence and soften the hearts of the listeners so they may understand your message.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJtIMDhJTsI[/flash]


NB: Everybody is welcomed to participate; this is an open forum and by no means am i choosy.

If anybody cares to know what my beliefs are, then check out:

www.miracleof19.org
www.submission.org
www.masjidtucson.org
www.quranalone.com

Download Quran(PDF) here: [url=https://1cabb384-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/evidenceofgod/Quran.pdf?attachauth=ANoY7crHIi94BpCpL82I0hE2JqlVpklFwpoE95k4QBM7-Em8DRdYScbkqe4DvxaWGWlNHyAGeRm-LVQrxjCnDzj03YIJOi9dd12hK3cLavQI1yPIvcfbIj4hJmCl7dQYG8aeBF_hU1zcplt5t6WlukUhugpwk8rTjSQkDrfRo94x8OIhWsAaEimW1VZ38lslO6VURcYk3efLuRYPeTL7I-9BZLyH3w7DNA%3D%3D&attredirects=0]Quran Download[/url]
Religion / Re: Did Anyone (DEAD/LIVING) Witnessed Evolution Or The Big B@ng? by usisky(m): 10:13pm On Jul 23, 2012
Area_boy: Your asking the same questions as "How did TB Joshua predict the american shootings before it happened"

See mate, making vague statements that can be interpreted any which way is not the sign of a god to me. funny thing is, If I could read Arabic I will come out with a different interpretation than these.

Problem is, your first line doesn't follow with the others. Let me explain.

What you guys are claiming that the Qur'an confirms the bigb@ang theory right?. Problem is, after that we don't need god anymore to command life and make the sky or whatever else he did. we now know everything else sorted itself after that.

I'm not impressed by those probabilities to be honest. the other one is even larger than a google plex shocked. Since the number of particles in the entire observable universe is somewhere around 10 to the power 118

so how the hell did they get that enormous number

Alright! It's quite apparent you do not deserve to be amongst those who know. You may take up some tutorials in arabic
if that will make you happy.
Religion / Re: Did Anyone (DEAD/LIVING) Witnessed Evolution Or The Big B@ng? by usisky(m): 9:41pm On Jul 23, 2012
Area_boy:

I have actually and they seem to all come up with funny probability as a way to say god must have a hand in it. Hence my comment. you know im right abi?

Yes Mr. Cos probability Laws is our yardstick for evaluating what could or could not have been a coincidence as the case may be. If you actually read through to the end of the first link, this is what you'll See:

[Quran 21:30] Do the unbelievers not realize that the heaven and the earth used to be one solid mass that we exploded into existence? And from water we made all living things. Would they believe?

[Quran 41:11] Then He turned to the sky, when it was still gas, and said to it, and to the earth, "Come into existence, willingly or unwillingly." They said, "We come willingly."

[Quran 51:47] We constructed the sky with our hands, and we will continue to expand it.

My question to you Mr. is how these statements of monumental implications ended up in a document that is at least
1400 years old?
Religion / Re: Did Anyone (DEAD/LIVING) Witnessed Evolution Or The Big B@ng? by usisky(m): 9:22pm On Jul 23, 2012
Area_boy:

it is important not to get all your evidence/answers/research material from one source. so much for objectivity undecided

Mr. objectivity. I implore you to at least click any of the links before your pronouncement. Report
your findings when done.
Religion / Re: Did Anyone (DEAD/LIVING) Witnessed Evolution Or The Big B@ng? by usisky(m): 8:54pm On Jul 23, 2012
Religion / Re: Did Anyone (DEAD/LIVING) Witnessed Evolution Or The Big B@ng? by usisky(m): 11:50am On Jul 23, 2012
PS: I often wonder why people think the Big-Bang or Evolution(not exactly as Darwin postulated) precludes deliberate creation?!
Religion / Re: Did Anyone (DEAD/LIVING) Witnessed Evolution Or The Big B@ng? by usisky(m): 11:23am On Jul 23, 2012
Yes Mr. Toba, yes!! And with absolute certainty that is.
Islam for Muslims / How To Become A Muslim(submitter) by usisky(m): 3:34pm On Jul 22, 2012
PLEASE Mr Maclatunji, STOP DELETING My threads!!- If u have a better case, present it so the audience decides.



"... Oh my Lord, indeed I have wronged my soul. I SUBMIT MYSELF ALONG WITH SOLOMON, TO GOD THE LORD OF THE WORLDS" Sura, 27:44.

"Submission" (ISLAM in Arabic), is the religion whereby we recognize God's absolute authority,
and reach an unshakeable conviction that God ALONE possesses all power; no other entity possesses any power that is independent of Him. The natural result of such a realization is to devote our lives and our worship absolutely to God
ALONE. This is the First Commandment in all the scriptures, including the Old Testament, the New Testament, and this Final Testament(Quran).

Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is One God! Therefore you shall adore the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength. [Deuteronomy 6:4-5, Luke 12:29-30, Quran 3:18]

Let us meditate on God, His glorious attributes, who is the basis of everything in this universe as its Creator, who is fit to be worshiped as Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omniscient and self existent conscious being, who removes all ignorance and impurities from the mind and purifies and sharpens the intellect. [Gayatri Mantra, Yajur Veda]

To associate anything or anyone with God is known as 'shirk'(Idolatry), the highest degree of blasphemy, which God does not forgive. This is made clear in chapter 4 verse 48. The Quran also stipulates that Muslims must profess faith in the One God and not call on anyone else. To profess their faith in Islam(submission) or to convert one will make this declaration: "I bear witness that there is no god except God " (Arabic transliteration: "Ash hadu anlaa ilaaha illallaah"wink. This testimony is called the Shahadah.

Also There is another, not less important, attestation, which Muslims can recite to affirm their faith or to convert. It can be found in the Quran and to show this attestation of faith, the Prophet Abraham is an excellent example.

"Whose religion is better than one who SUBMITS himself to God, works righteousness and follows the faith Of Abraham the monotheist? God has chosen Abraham as a beloved friend". Sura, 4:125.

The next verse tells us: "When his Lord said to him "SUBMIT" he said, "I SUBMIT TO THE LORD OF THE WORLDS" (Arabic: Aslamtu Li Rabbil Aalameen) Sura 2:131.

So here we have it. When God showed Abraham the perfect religion, He commanded Abraham to Submit ("Aslimu"wink and Abraham said "Aslamtu li rabbil aalameen". This is how MUSLIMS (or converts) should attest their faith (or to convert); This should be between one and his creator and not in the presence of anybody.

"I SUBMIT TO THE LORD OF THE WORLDS"


The story of Abraham continues in the next verse: "The same did Abraham enjoin upon his sons and also Jacob, "0 My sons, God has chosen for you the true faith, therefore DIE NOT SAVE AS MEN WHO HAVE SUBMITTED". Sura 2:132

Abraham enjoined his sons to believe in the same things he did. He also successfully enjoined his people to say the same thing "Aslamtu li rabbil aalameen" which means "I submit myself to the Lord of the Worlds". This is revealed in the next verse:

"Or were you present when death came to Jacob, when he said unto his sons, 'What will you worship after me?" They said, 'We shall worship thy God, the God of thy fathers Abraham, Ishmael, and Isaac, One God, and UNTO HIM WE HAVE SUBMITTED" Sura 2:133.

This is the truth about how Abraham submitted himself to God, as it was revealed to the Messenger through the Quran. And the Messenger is commanded to follow Abraham:

"And they say, "Be Jews or Christians, then you will be rightly guided. "Say; "No, We follow the faith of Abraham, the upright, and he was not of the idolaters". Sura 2:135

"Say, 'We believe in God and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham..." Sura, 2:136.

Now it is clear that Muslims cannot attest their faith by witnessing a Messenger, especially as they cannot be seen. Witnessing on Muhammad's messengership is just the idolization of one prophet. Giving distinction to one messenger above another is strictly forbidden in the Quran as mentioned in verses 2.285 and 4.150-152.

There is no doubt that the prophet Muhammad followed the faith of Abraham.

"And we inspired you (Muhammad) to FOLLOW THE FAITH OF ABRAHAM, he who was naturally upright, he was never an idolater" Sura 16:123.

The Prophet did exactly as God commanded him. If anyone wants to become a Muslim should they then not follow the prophet Muhammad's example that affirmed his faith in the same way as Abraham?

"Those among mankind who have the best claim to Abraham are those who followed him, and this prophet, and those who believe, and God is the protecting friend of the believers". Sura, 3:68.

Say, (Muhammad) "I am forbidden to worship those whom you call besides God, since there has come to me clear proofs from God, and I AM COMMANDED TO SUBMIT TO THE LORD OF THE WORLDS (wa umirtu un aslima li rabbil aalameen) Sura 40:66.

The Messenger and his companions simply submitted themselves to God:

"Say "Shall we call those things besides God, which can neither harm us nor benefit us, and shall we turn back after God has guided us - like one possessed by the devils, who has companions (sahaba!) Who invite him, saying "Come to us?" Say, 'The guidance of God is indeed true guidance and WE ARE COMMANDED TO SUBMIT TO THE LORD OF THE WORLDS (wa umirna li nuslimn li rabbil aalameen)" Sura 6:71

The Quran also gives an incident of the prophet Solomon and the Queen of Sheba as another example of submission to God. It records the moment when the Queen reverts to Islam. She was an idolater and Solomon had invited her to Islam. To prove the greatness of God, Solomom used powers given to him to move the Queen of Sheba's magnificent palace intact, from one place to another in the blink of an eye.

Seeing this, she realized God's power, immediately repented and said,

"Rabbi inn salamtu nafsin, wa aslamtu ma'a Sulaimaana, lillaahi rabbiul aalameen" which means, "... Oh my Lord, indeed I have wronged my soul. I SUBMIT MYSELF ALONG WITH SOLOMON, TO GOD THE LORD OF THE WORLDS" Sura, 27:44.

To affirm their faith or to convert Muslims should use the examples given in the Quran. What they should say is "I SUBMIT MYSELF TO THE LORD OF THE WORLDS". (Arabic: Aslamtu li rabbil aalameen). Others who have affirmed their faith in this way are the Prophets Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Solomon and of course the Prophet Muhammad (Sura 40:66). Also the Queen of Sheba and the companions of the Prophet did the same. If you adopt their way, you will be in good company.

In conclusion, a convert must attest his or her faith by submitting to Lord of the universe by saying; " I SUBMIT MYSELF TO THE LORD OF THE WORLDS". (Arabic: Aslamtu li rabbil aalameen)", and by attesting to the truth that there is no other god but GOD by saying; "I bear witness that there is no god except God " (Arabic transliteration: "Ash hadu anlaa ilaaha illallaah"wink.

Of course submission will not be complete unless one obeys God's every command in his Glorious book, The Holy Qur'an and by observing the duties encumbered by all Muslims (submitters) such as; Salat, Fasting, Zakat and Hajj.

" When his Lord said to him "Submit" he said
" I submit to the Lord of the Worlds
"
(Quran Sura 2:131)


PEACE!!
Islam for Muslims / Re: Evolution: Divinely Controlled by usisky(m): 12:32am On Jul 20, 2012
Cheers01: For once, I have to accept Tbaba's opinion.

Your posts are ridiculous


Thank you Mr. you are entitled to your opinion. Last time i checked; talk is still cheap. so you might
as well keep on talking on. Anyways, point out the ridiculous part. Be a healthy critic next time.
Islam for Muslims / Evolution: Divinely Controlled by usisky(m): 10:38pm On Jul 19, 2012
We learn from the Quran that evolution is a divinely designed fact:

Life began in water: "From water we initiated all living things." (21:30, 24:45)

Humans not descendants of monkeys: "He started the creation of man from mud." (32:7)

Man created from "aged" mud: "I am creating the human being from aged' clay." (15:28)

Evolution is possible only within a given species. For example, the navel orange evolved from seeded oranges, not from apples. The laws of probability preclude the possibility of haphazard evolution between species. A fish cannot evolve into a bird; a monkey can never evolve into a human.
Probability Laws Preclude Darwin's Evolution

In this computer age, we have mathematical laws that tell us whether a certain event is probable or not. If we throw five numbered cubes up in the air and let them fall into a guided straight line, the probability laws tell us the number of possible combinations we can get: 1x2x3x4x5=120 combinations. Thus, the probability of obtaining any combination is 1 in 120, or 1/120, or 0.0086. This probability diminishes fast when we increase the number of cubes. If we increase them by one, the number of combinations becomes 1x2x3x4x5x6=720, and the probability of getting any combination diminishes to 1/720, 0.0014. Mathematicians, who are very exacting scientists, have agreed that the probability diminishes to "Zero" when we increase the number of cubes to 84. If we work with 84 cubes, the probability diminishes to 209x10 (raised to the power of) -50, or

You may wish to Read on: Evolution Divinely Guided
Islam for Muslims / Re: Female Dress Code And Common Errors In Translation by usisky(m): 9:54pm On Jul 19, 2012
pheyus10: Salam Alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu Yah Akhi(usisky), I appreciate your efforts and contributions on this post.
May Allah accept your efforts and increase you in His Guidance, Taqwa and Knowledge.
Are you frequently Online? if yes, my mail address is pheyus10@yahoo.com and if No, you can as well send me your mail address.
We might need to talk offline if ALLAH wills.
KatharALLAhu Khayran Katheeran for your efforts.[b][/b]


Peace Sir. Sent u an Email. Thanks and All Praise is due to GOD ALMIGHTY(28:70, 30:18, 45:36, 64:1).
Islam for Muslims / Re: Female Dress Code And Common Errors In Translation by usisky(m): 9:51pm On Jul 19, 2012
mkmyers45:

ok...are you frequently online?

Peace Mr Myers. sorry for the belated reply. You may contact me via the email if you desire to discuss
any issue. Alternatively, if wanna discuss it here, then feel free..open a thread where we may have such discourse.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sighting Of Moon Not Required To Begin Ramadan Fasting? by usisky(m): 7:59pm On Jul 18, 2012
tbaba1234:

He is ignorant, that's why?.... has been proven time and time again

As for the first part of your statement; i say thank you to that. As for the other half, i'd
like if you could please refer me to when and where that happened. Besides, if u wanna go for a "duel"- i will
humbly accept. We will Scrutinize the current Islamic practices/belief against the Qur'anic teachings if
you desire that.Only Then,will we find out who the truly ignorant is?!! One who believes "apostates" deserve death,
calling a peacemaker ignorant. if you don't remember- i can search u the thread....Mr Tbaba the great "SAGE".
Islam for Muslims / Dress Code For Women Based On Quran by usisky(m): 7:38pm On Jul 18, 2012
IN THE NAME OF GOD

PEACE TO ALL!!


Anyone who thinks about it recognizes the falsehood of the old saying “Clothes make the man.” Yet for many the piety of a Muslim woman is defined by how she dresses.

Men who do not themselves pray regularly or fast Ramadan often become very agitated by a Muslim woman who does not cover her hair, as if by doing so she is automatically following the faith. However, the Quran tells us that the best garment is righteousness:

O children of Adam, we have provided you with garments to cover your bodies, as well as for luxury. But the best garment is the garment of righteousness. These are some of God's signs, that they may take heed. (7:26)

Interestingly the Quran does not require a woman to cover her hair, but rather to dress modestly and to cover her chest as we see in the following verses and their footnote from Dr. Rashad Khalifa’s translation of the Quran:
Dress Code for Believers*

Tell the believing men that they shall subdue their eyes (and not stare at the women), and to maintain their chastity. This is purer for them. God is fully Cognizant of everything they do. And tell the believing women to subdue their eyes, and maintain their chastity. They shall not reveal any parts of their bodies, except that which is necessary. They shall cover their chests, and shall not relax this code in the presence of other than their husbands, their fathers, the fathers of their husbands, their sons, the sons of their husbands, their brothers, the sons of their brothers, the sons of their They shall not strike their feet when they walk in order to shake and reveal certain details of their bodies. All of you shall repent to God, O you believers, that you may succeed.* (24:30-31)


Commentary:
*24:30-31 Dressing modestly, therefore, is a trait of the believing men and women. The minimum requirements for a woman's dress is to lengthen her garment (33:59) and to cover her chest. Tyrannical Arab traditions have given a false impression that a woman must be covered from head to toe; such is not a Quranic or Islamic dress.


if you do care, READ on here: https://sites.google.com/site/evidenceofgod/women-s-rights-in-submission/women-s-dress-code
Islam for Muslims / Re: Female Dress Code And Common Errors In Translation by usisky(m): 7:35pm On Jul 18, 2012
mkmyers45:

mkmyers45@gmail.com

Looking forward to hearing from you

Dropped u a msg.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sighting Of Moon Not Required To Begin Ramadan Fasting? by usisky(m): 7:11pm On Jul 18, 2012
tbaba1234: Please stop making a fool of yourself with this...

Thanks Tbaba.Appreciate your 2-cents.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Female Dress Code And Common Errors In Translation by usisky(m): 7:06pm On Jul 18, 2012
mkmyers45: Usisky i greatly admire your posts and i will like us to talk offline if possible..

Drop me your Email Addy or somt'n - thanks and pleasure!!
Islam for Muslims / Female Dress Code And Common Errors In Translation by usisky(m): 6:38pm On Jul 18, 2012
IN THE NAME OF THE MOST GRACIOUS- GOD!!


Analysis of the Quranic Verses:

The following is an attempt to shed light on the misconceptions regarding the dress code of women in Islam, many of which find root in the vocabulary used in the verses themselves. The meaning of the words put to use in the Quran has been effectively manipulated in order to contort the true meaning of God’s words and justify the practices of Islamic tradition.

Over the expanse of many years, numerous people with extensive backgrounds in the Arabic language have contributed to the explanations that have been collected and, finally, presented here. Therefore, the formulation of these definitions cannot be solely credited to me.

God has given us three basic rules regarding the dress code of women:
(1) the best garment is the garment of righteousness,
(2) whenever we dress, we should cover our chest (bosoms), and
(3) to lengthen our garment.


You may choose to READ on if you care:[url] https://sites.google.com/site/evidenceofgod/women-s-rights-in-submission/dress-code-common-mistranslations[/url]
Islam for Muslims / Sighting Of Moon Not Required To Begin Ramadan Fasting? by usisky(m): 6:19pm On Jul 18, 2012
ALL PRAISES BE TO THE MOST HIGH-GOD ALMIGHTY!!

PEACE TO ALL!!

God gave us scientific knowledge to determine exactly when a lunar month will begin and end. Astronomers have this knowledge precisely calculated and we can compute the day Ramadan will begin (or end) for a particular year months and years in advance. Lunar calendars are printed and people conduct business and trade in middle eastern countries without any uncertainty. God says in the Quran:


[Quran 10:5] He is the One who rendered the sun radiant, and the moon a light, and He designed its phases that you may learn to count the years and to calculate. GOD did not create all this, except for a specific purpose. He explains the revelations for people who know.

[Quran 2:189] They ask you about the phases of the moon! Say, "They provide a timing device for the people, and determine the time of Hajj." It is not righteous to beat around the bush;* righteousness is attained by upholding the commandments and by being straightforward. You shall observe GOD, that you may succeed.

We do not try to physically see the sun's position when it is time to pray our Contact Prayers (Salat). The sun, earth and moon follow precise orbits (21:33). Similarly, there is no need for trying to sight the crescent of the moon to start fasting. Any observatory or astronomy center should have that information for your area. Some almanacs, magazines or newspapers also report the times for the phases of the moon.


You may Read the Rest of the Article here: http://www.masjidtucson.org/submission/practices/ramadan/sighting_OfMoonRamadanFasting.html



Also this page for Starting of Ramadan 2012 and other valuable infos: http://www.masjidtucson.org/submission/practices/ramadan/index.html

PEACE!!

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