Religion / Re: Popular Kenyan Prophet Storms Nigeria To End 'gospel Of Money' (photo) by vooks: 7:31pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
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Religion / Re: Why Do Pastors Sell Their Sermons? by vooks: 7:23pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
Just looking at some phenomenal Android stats since it was released in 2007; 1 million apps in the first 6yrs of the system, 1 billion active Android users by 2014.... Android obliterated Symbian and has given iOS a run for its market share. This is the magic of open source. What if Christianity is presented WITHOUT CHARGE continuously? What if every message is disseminated absolutely freely! 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Esther Liana by vooks: 7:11pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
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Religion / Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 7:09pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
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Religion / Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by vooks: 7:01pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
asalimpo:
please, let me know what makes it peurile.
The analogy clearly, distinguish two kinds of similar acts ,taking of a life, by giving some context.
When ur ilks want to put down the bible,you intentionally remove the contexts to make the deed appear as gross as possible. All while tryna appear objective.
Very true, they ignore context when it suits them and play dumb when it paints their opponents in a negative light. |
Religion / Re: Pre-birth Memories - Life Before Birth by vooks: 6:57pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
stevecantrell:
Not everyone has a past life...you're right. Some people can never relate to this no matter what. But I feel I've been here before....not everyone has to feel that way. And of course your 'feelings' started right after you learnt about incarnation, right? |
Religion / Re: Pre-birth Memories - Life Before Birth by vooks: 6:51pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
[size=1pt] bigfrancis21: It is very common to hear of life after death stories but much less heard are life before birth memories or stories. It comes very surprising to many of you to learn that life did exist before your birth on earth. There exists a few percentage of people on earth who partially or fully remember their existence in the afterlife and making preparations to come to earth. Often, many babies and young toddlers, at a tender age and lacking the vocabulary of an adult to express their memories, have this memory with them which they lose as they grow older due to the 'veil of forgetfulness' and as earth experiences replace them. The veil of forgetfulness is a spiritual veil placed over a soul as it departs the afterlife to fuse with its earthly body to prevent remembrance of life in the afterlife (the pleasures of life in the afterlife compared to earth, especially if that soul is going to have a tough earth life) and also past lives (more useful if a soul has had an unpleasant past life). However, some children do not lose this memory as they grow into adulthood and are still able to retain memories of an existence before coming to earth. We all chose to come to earth to live at this time out of our own volition (free will) for the soul advancement that earth life brings. Before departing for our current life, we chose our life circumstances that would provide us the maximum soul growth possible in this life time.
Life on earth is a cycle of lessons and improvement and everyone agrees that the soul is immortal, meaning that it never dies but is merely recycled from life to life. If the soul is immortal, does it not follow that it existed before this current life on earth? Mind you, the immortality of the soul does not begin after you die in this current life, your soul IS already immortal (never 'died' before) and is only experiencing another small facet of earthly experience in the unending life of the soul. Religion, more especially organized religion, barely teach these basic soul knowledge. Christianity today is only but a watered down version of what it was intended to be. Jesus Christ preached in details, as seen from the gospel of Peter, gospel of Thomas, gospel of Bartholomew, gospel of Nathan, gospel of Mary Magdalene etc. also known as the Gnostic Gospels, written by the disciples of Jesus who directly walked with him, listened and heard from him speak first hand, about life before birth, karma, life after death, male-female energy balancing, re-incarnation etc. You don't find these topics in the Christianity of today as the early church fathers and the council of nicea in 325 organized the bible (selective adoption of what books and doctrines to be edited and included in the bible and those to be removed) into what it is today. True Christianity is found in the Gnostic Gospels (http://gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html)where you learn of the true teachings of Jesus Christ. To let you know, I am not a Christian. I consider myself a spiritual person.
Some of you may be asking, why does a soul choose to have a tough earthly life instead of a an easy one? Or why do some people on earth have easier lives and some other people a much tougher life? The main reason being that tougher lives have more lessons for the soul to learn than easier one, depending on how much toughness the soul can handle to avoid its physical brain from going mentally astray while in the body. Many mentally challenged people today are as a result of an overestimation of how much they could handle while they were preparing for earth life. By planning our earthly lives and placing tough life circumstances here and there over the course of the life time, we are ensuring that we maximize our learning potential during that life time and to avoid wasting an entire lifetime learning nothing. Tough circumstances help to keep the journeying soul focused on the more important aspects of coming to earth and to prevent being carried away by earthly distractions. In addition, the more advanced the soul is, the more likely it is able to retain its memories or tap into its subconscious memories.
I have always remembered portions of my pre-birth experience till today which I will share below. I have withheld some bits of it as they are private to me but shared most of it. Most of my memories are of the last moments before leaving for earth. I remember being in a row sort of with other souls planning to leave for earth and I remember being told we were the pioneers of the purpose for which we were going for. We were going to be the first batch and other batches would follow later. All the way to the back and part of the 'briefing' were the souls to be our mothers (to give birth to us) on earth. These souls also had a role or connection to play in our life purpose. I remember thinking to myself that I was glad to be among the first wave of those being sent to earth for this purpose. I also knew my mom would not last long on earth (I forgot this for a while and suddenly remembered again one day during meditation that I knew it was supposed to happen and that her life had been planned that way) and that I would play a great role in her life while she was alive. Next scene I remember is looking into a screen sort of and seeing clips of this my current life from beginning to end. I knew beforehand how my life was going to play out. At this point I chose my path differently (which for the sake of my privacy, I'll leave out here) and I remember a being standing next to me (my spiritual guide. We all have one) telling me that earth people would not understand with the lots of misunderstanding going on and I responded back that yes they earth people would not understand but little would they know that it is indeed a glorious path to take. My mind was made up and I was not changing it. Next, I knew I was going to forget ever being there while on earth and back in the afterlife it is regarded highly if a soul is able to remember its origins while on earth and I made efforts to impress memories of what I was experiencing in my memory and told myself I would not forget where I come from.
As a child of 3 or 4 years or so, I remember thinking to myself that I could not wait to grow up to begin what I came for. I also remember thinking that I am glad I delayed a little bit before 'pushing' out of my mom's womb or else I would have been born out of wedlock. My mom later confirmed with me that I was overdue and born 2 weeks late and my actual birth period co-incided with my parents' wedding. My parents got married just 2 weeks before I was born. Fast forward to 14 years later, while on the internet one day I stumbled across an article confirming exactly what I had experienced during the 'briefing' and that the souls of these briefing have been termed 'crystal children' with the first wave of crystals born at around the beginning of the 90s and the second wave around early 2000s. Having no one to talk to about my memories, I was glad I found that article which confirmed my pre-birth memory. The first set of crystals are today young adults in their early and mid 20s. Several times I have seen my aura (a magnificent glow of colour (s) around us that indicate our level of spiritual growth) and it was crystalline clear and bright (typical of crystal children). As exactly as I was shown in that screen, my life has played out so far the way I saw it and I have been carrying out my life purpose ever since. Also, as we speak, I know how many years left I have on earth and how my death is going to occur. As for my life purpose,
Deja Vus or feelings of familiarity of 'seeing' certain life events before or places are basically memories of watching our prospective lives in the afterlife, memories buried deep in our subconscious and deja vus are there to gently remind us of our immortal existence (we are not of this earth) and the evanescence or transience of life (the short time we have to spend here). All my life I have experienced Deja Vus a lot and each time it happens I tell myself, 'oh I remember seeing this part of my life on that screen', one profound memory being when I was in JSS 1, I standing up in class and staring outside and suddenly remembered watching that same scene in the screen in the afterlife but as an outsider. We are not our bodies by chance but instead souls on a physical journey on earth. 80 years of earth life seems like a second or blink of an eye in the afterlife.
I am sharing this memory to encourage those who may have pre-birth memories to share theirs as well and to raise awareness to people that life did not start at birth and it continues long after death. There are much more spiritual truths that cannot be found in most organized religions and as the journeying soul advances in soul growth, there comes a time it outgrows its need for religion.
Peace. [/size] They have a word for this; pseudo-science |
Religion / Re: GRACE TRANSCENDS FORGIVENESS! by vooks: 6:43pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Yes, that's my comment not from the site. Why don't you correlate whatever you say with the definition? Show some modicum of respect for the definition you just offered |
Religion / Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by vooks: 6:41pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
Gombs:
wait a minute, if masturbation was asked for in a medical facility, probably a fertility clinic, are you of the opinion that Christians shouldn't partake in such? Would you object to a man gripping your wife( you don't have any) goods because a gynecologist freely does it? The issue you have is somewhat in line with obsession... you just go all around, on all threads mentioning masturbationn, or divorce, like a baby who lost his toy. It was your boy Joagbaje who reasoned that since there is medical use of masturbation it ain't no sin. I just used his idiocy to smack some sense into his puny brain
NB: Porn... Pastor Chris addressed this in one communion service... I'd find the notes. Oyaks is a pro on divorce, a professional failure, an anointed one at that.....that's something I'll consult him on Holla when when pens his Divorce FilesI never knew that gods can be divorced and dumped like filthy rags |
Religion / Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by vooks: 6:36pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
Joagbaje:
Not furious at all just applying scriptures
Proverbs 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. Gloves are off. Your idol is at stake 1 Like |
Religion / Re: ATHEISTS, What's Your Take On Suicide? by vooks: 6:35pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer:
I'm good, bro. Trying to sort out my life. Don't know.. never taken a standardised test..just the funny online ones. do those count? Negro, I never taken none, not even the online ones. The closest I came to an IQ test was the aptitude tests. You are a genius |
Religion / Re: ATHEISTS, What's Your Take On Suicide? by vooks: 4:10pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer:
1. Considered it once. One pretty tough time in my life. 2. Matters of life are not so easily explained. There are some situations in which suicide can be liberating. 3. Mostly health related. Apart from these, I won't advice anyone to commit suicide no matter how tough/difficult a person's situation might be. Hope for the best, stay positive, keep grinding. Negro, You have some Houdini genes? Quit disappearing antics..not cool Excellent and precise answer. What's your IQ? |
Religion / Re: GRACE TRANSCENDS FORGIVENESS! by vooks: 4:07pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Very well:
◄ 5485. charis ►
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
grace, favor:
From chairo; graciousness (as gratifying), of manner or act (abstract or concrete; literal, figurative or spiritual; especially the divine influence upon the heart, and its reflection in the life; including gratitude) -- acceptable, benefit, favour, gift, grace(- ious), joy, liberality, pleasure, thank(-s, -worthy)
http://biblehub.com/strongs/greek/5485.htm Excellent This definition establishes the fact that Salvation is an interplay of mercy and grace, the former deals more with the past and cancels the debt and that justly, the latter gives strength and power for the future! You made that up. Can't find no hint of it from the definition you gave sir |
Religion / Re: ATHEISTS, What's Your Take On Suicide? by vooks: 4:02pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
jayriginal:
Kindly rephrase. I'm sorry. The 'certain traits that make us human', are we slaves to them or can we rise above them? Could you please list them |
Religion / Re: ATHEISTS, What's Your Take On Suicide? by vooks: 3:49pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
jayriginal: There are certain traits that make us human. Those traits border on the emotional /sentimental. I guess that's what Frank was trying to explain and that's why he brought in pain and regards for the feelings of others.
When we talk of something being dehumanizing, we know exactly what it means. Without sentiments, we are just walking robots. Software if you like.
Vooks, is your take on uninstalling software the same as your take on suicide? I don't think so. Software may not be the perfect analogy but unless you wish to split hairs. . . Would I be right to say that these 'certain traits that make us humans' baseless? What are they founded on? Conditioning? |
Religion / Re: GRACE TRANSCENDS FORGIVENESS! by vooks: 3:40pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Thanks, I prefer a contextual study of the usage of the Word. That tells us what God had in mind and what Grace does for us.
A word study denies the word its contextual usage and may be a breeding ground for error. For example, the use of umerited favour definition does not agree with some bible texts where the word is used. This is akin to flying backwards in a blizzard and in pitch darkness How do you embark on 'contextual study' over a word you are totally ignorant of its meaning? Every Language comprises of books which comprise of chapters which comprise of paragraphs,which comprise of sentences, which comprise of words, and each word carries a meaning. So words are building blocks. They are key If you don't know the meaning of a word, any 'contextual study' you build on its usage is as valid as your (mis)understanding of the word. The reason word studies are infrequent is because the speaker and the hearers ofttimes share some assumptions about meanings of words or phrases. But in your case, you have set to assault a popular definition of GRACE. How about you give us it's meaning in its natural context? We will then contrast your higher road, your scriptural wisdom with pop culture and if there be any sense in your higher way,mew will trash traditions and definitions of men. You do realize that if you can't define GRACE, you can imagine it to be anything,and you would right on each count? Definitions are important; they set you on course Once again, before mishmash of verses and quotes, what is GRACE? That's more sensible than endless glib of what GRACE is not Thanks |
Religion / Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by vooks: 3:33pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
Joagbaje:
well since you must use vulgar illustrations to express your dirty carnal mind. you ought to have used you mothers whatever as illustration. people like you always launch pesonall attacks when your wrong hypocritical theology crumbles like pack of cards in the face of light. enjoy your folly dear
I never thought I would find you this furious. So all this veneer of meekness covers a monster I could have used my mother, but I used your wife to bring the point home. Anyway,the point remains; appealing to medical utility of anything to sanctify it is epic idiocy. Even esere826 points this out Yours is basically idolatry; you as Oyaks sheeple and being on his payroll, and with little prospects of doing anything else meaningful in this life other than serving him, you have no choice but to stand by him even when he is churning out garbage. He is a pro-w@nker, every of his sycophant is a pro-w@nker 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Anita Oyakhilome Gets Divorce Certificate by vooks: 1:33pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
Kayelyon:
May God not allow you pass thru anything like this IJN. Continue to condemn a woman you really know nothing about. Continue to justify it. This woman has one of loveliest characters, so what happened thru the years? Do you know of her exploits for several years in EUROPE for the ministry What exactly broke the camel's back that made her resolute in leaving despite all the sacrifice Did She not know the world will turn its back on her(esp Africa). yet she filed? Not everyone is stupid. Do you have details of their marriage? Was there even a "marriage". You can only endure what exists! I GUESS SHE GOT TIRED OF PRETENDING, SUFFERING & MAINTAINING A FALSE IMAGE TO SAVE HER REPUTATION!
They are attacking Anita to fortify Oyaks defenses, nothing else. You bet in a few days they will call her a hoe |
Religion / Re: Anita Oyakhilome Gets Divorce Certificate by vooks: 1:31pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
eplanning:
What I see here is just an active imagination. Did you not read that they are already done with the court? In fact that (the sharing of assets) is what delayed the matter. The Man of God declared a house in SA and about one hundred and twenty something thousand USD. Of course they were dissappointed since they expected more, hence their coming to NL to wail.
Has she not started writing? If she had any more aresenal left. She would have fired her biggest by now. Let her write more if she likes, it will only expose the kind of woman she is and further vindicate the MOG.
She'd even risk offending her children who are still very much active in ministry at Christ Embassy due to their father's good influence and upbringing. Selective amnesia. You discount every account that does not present Oyaks in good light and swallow whole street gossip that vilifies Anita |
Religion / Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by vooks: 12:36pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
Joagbaje:
You don't have to talk silly to make a dumb point. The bible is clear on the issue of adultery . How did I talk silly? You threw in medicine to show the 'innocence' of masturbation and I went along. You see how silly you sound? 'One can masturbate for medical reasons such as sperm extraction therefore masturbation is no sin'. Similarly, one can group your wife's parts without sinning since her gynecologist does it. Let's avoid stupidity when examining doctrine. Proverbs 6:29 So he that goeth in to his neighbour's wife; whosoever toucheth her shall not be innocent.
Covetousness in this context Yeah right, so her gynecologist is covetous? Women are to dress modestly and decently . It's about them ,their mind and right values . What has their 'mind and right values' got to do with dressing? Can you give examples of dressing that goes against their 'mind and right values'? Stop being silly dear . And stop getting personal . I've told you porn is indecent . If you keeping getting personal with insult I will stop responding to you. How am I being silly? You said watching porn is just watching a movie and there is nothing wrong with watching a movie. So there shouldn't be anything wrong either with shooting a movie, right? And by extension, there shouldn't be anything wrong with shooting porn. Your analogies are wild and am glad you can see that If you have a sensible point . Lay it out from scriptures and any other reference . And if you run out of options . Just meditate on my points and leave there. I have examined your analogies. Your reasoning is since masturbation is done medically or for medical reasons, it is no sin. I simply chose something else done medically; touching your wife's genit@lia. Tell us Lustful thoughts are not sin? What is sin Joagbaje? |
Religion / Re: ATHEISTS, What's Your Take On Suicide? by vooks: 12:28pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
frank317:
Listen to ur self. U have clearly and explicitly explained to you why I think suicide is wrong. But no, my reason for thinking suicide is wrong must be what u have in mind even if it does not make sense.
Why don't u tell me what u have in mind should be one's objective morality for explaining an action.
What did u find missing in my explanation? I have giving u explanation on why stealing or suicide is bad given all negativity it carries in its baggage.
Don't give me the impression that u really have no idea why u opened this thread.
Let's listen to others as well. Thanks Pls don't get influence by Ebuka who has resolved to opening dumb threads just to feel relevant. |
Religion / Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by vooks: 8:07am On Mar 10, 2016 |
Joagbaje:
are you saying its a sin to do it medically in sperrm count test?
and if it won't be a sin medically why should it be a sin otherwise? You are really out on a limb. Is it sin to put my finger inside your wife's sexual organs? lustful thought are not sin What is sin? sobriety in women dressing is about their honour and self control and not about about giving men lustful thoughts. a man that is lusting is the one who has issues with lust. What has honor to do with dressing? Care expounding that? its a movie . is watching a movie a sin? No it's not. So would you object to your wife shooting porn? porn is just indecency. kills spiritual fire like any fleshly thing
Porn is no sin, right? 1 Like |
Religion / Re: ATHEISTS, What's Your Take On Suicide? by vooks: 8:03am On Mar 10, 2016 |
frank317:
Who be this one? What the hell is wrong with this guys? Where did conscience come from? Do u know where conscience came from?
How did i talk about conscience like it came from thin air? Can u explain that statement.
I have clearly explained my take on suicide. I have explained why I think it's bad. It's just the same way I feel stealing is bad - becasue of the general nagative effect it has in the society.
Did we talk about the origin or conscience in our conversation? Do u even reason at all.I have always said it... U are the noisiest dumbest fellow I have ever seen in this forum.
Did u hear vooks talking about objective basis for morality like it matters? What has objective basis for morality got to do with the fact that I can differentiate evil from good? Do atheist go around killing people? Are they the ones deceiving people in church? Are they the ones defending the wickedness in the Bible? Are they boko haram? Don't we have charity organization owned by atheist? So what's has objective moral basis got to do with anything? Objectivity in morality is important my brother. If you can't objectively explain why you prefer one course of action to the other, then your behavior is arbitrary, and you have no right calling out who don't do what you do. Let me illustrate. If you were given shirts of different colors and you chose yellow, and another guy chose green, if you can't explain the objective rationale of your choice, then you should not look down on the guy who chose differently. Yellow is as good as green. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Religion / Re: Anita Oyakhilome Gets Divorce Certificate by vooks: 7:57am On Mar 10, 2016 |
Kayelyon:
Really interesting times i must say. She should speak please. Many will learn from it. Some will find help, made free etc. Esp intending couples in the ministry. There are boundaries that should never be crossed. The moG crossed a lot of lines as far as the marriage institution is concerned. She endured for 16years praying and hoping. Got tired, confronted her misery, demanded her rights as a wife & GOT HORRIBLY HUMILIATED! When a man doesnt love his wife, its nt hard to know. She has given up.... Now CE members are portraying him as the victim. A deception that will only work on the deluded, fanatic & the gullible. mtcheeeeew!!!! You are right. I have no idea where we get this crazy notion that 'men of God' are innocent until proven guilty while the rest are guilty till proven innocent. I can understand Oyaks sycophants, they are confused. If they countenance Oyaks being at fault, they'd have to explain why they still follow him. So they must against all evidence blame Anita and sanctify Oyaks. Don't confuse them with facts. This is why all evidence pointing to infidelity is ignored while all gossip about Anita being mean and carnal is touted as the truth. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by vooks: 7:44am On Mar 10, 2016 |
Oluwaseytiano: I won't trade words with an immature loser like you Take it easy bro |
Religion / Re: The End Of Reason:A Response To The New Atheists by vooks: 7:42am On Mar 10, 2016 |
koonbey:
You are indeed a Christian; what a beacon of Christ-like love, respect and humility you are portraying. Ride on pastor! Amen! Make sure you follow the thread |
Religion / Re: Anita Oyakhilome Gets Divorce Certificate by vooks: 6:12am On Mar 10, 2016 |
analice107:
Thank you, thank you, thank you. It's as if I wrote this piece. There's something folks don't get. Pastor Chris is a victim in this case, but no one is ready to hear his own side of the story. Until you are close to their families, you won't believe what most men of God go through in the hands of their wives. Few men of God enjoy their marriages. I don't know why, but they seem to marry very pretty wives but Demonic in character. When you have issues, you go to them, but they can't tell you how it is with them. Men of God are the loneliest people alive. They listen to everyone, but no one to listen to them, except God. The wives who understands that their husbands being pastors won't talk, take advantage of this and torment these men. You see them smile brightly in church, calling each other mummy and daddy, at home they don't share beds. Satan uses their wives against them. If only we know, we will go easy on some of these men.
Dearest Anas09, I think you are generalizing. Many ministers imagine their calling transforms them into demigods, there are as many wives of MoGs who are living in hell purely on account of their husbands' callings just as there are MoGs who are married to daughters of Satan. They are terrorized and intimidated into silence by their larger-than-life images. Ministers of the gospel need to wake up to the fact that to their families,they are first husbands and fathers,many secondly MoG. We also need to disabuse the notion that Christian ministry is the most stressful occupation on the marriage institution. I can think of others like millitary or even politics. We need to stop making excuses for these ministers' failures. When we elevate them on pedestals it is difficult to find their faults. That's why everyone is busy blaming Anita. She is a convenient scapegoat. Oyaks went ahead and portrayed her as stubborn and under-anointed. She has an equal right to be heard, and she has a lot to tell. They are now trying to gag her from speaking or writing about her marriage. Interesting times |
Religion / Re: Anita Oyakhilome Gets Divorce Certificate by vooks: 5:33am On Mar 10, 2016 |
eplanning:
I thank God for members of the CEC. They are the best. Men of integrity who will tell you to your face when you are wrong. I have had the opportunity of relatiing closely with some of them. Pastor Chris is blessed to have them. No wonder he has been able to weather all storms all these years and the impact continues. The glory is increasing continually.
Even common sense should tell you... You cannot come this far and achieve this much without wise counsel. And don't forget this MOG comes from a lineage of several pastors and ministers. Senior men and women who pray for him and give advice.
And you are angry because they refused to allow Madam to usurp authority or to hijack the church. Primary cause for divorce is listed as infidelity. You will of course bury your head in the sand and deny this,but at the same time you will peddle unsubstantiated gossip that she attempted to usurp authority. Talking with both sides of your mouth Here is the biggest thing you are missing. The divorce will open the lid on Oyaks' PERSONAL wealth which will be shared equally. I'm certain NOBODY among his sycophants had any clue as to his exact net worth. Anita will also write about her misery in his hands. If she lies, Oyaks can sue her for defamation. This idol you so gladly worship is about to be exposed |
Religion / Re: Anita Oyakhilome Gets Divorce Certificate by vooks: 5:27am On Mar 10, 2016 |
analice107:
My dearest, if you go back to when those two started out at University of Ekpoma, there was nothing to incite the over ambition. The MOG, will have no way of knowing how things will turn out later. Fact is that, the woman never considered the fact that, pastor Chris never commanded her to obey any law, God did. So her allegiance is to God first and foremost, not pastor Chris. All sin is a debt to God, not to man, because no man said to a fellow man, "Thou Shall not". God did. So, we have our responsibilities to God. It never occurred to her that she will account for the souls she will mislead by reason of her actions. She is selfish, and a servant of God serves God by serving others. She will answer for trying to scatter the church of Jesus Christ. She has set herself against God. I don't like Christ Embassy members with hair anyways. But let's call a Spade, a Spade, not a garden tool. Here is where we part ways. You assume that the one who files for divorce is to blame for the divorce. But they may have been driven to it by the other person. Jesus says whoever divorces for anything other than adultery commits adultery and causes the other party to commit adultery. Anita cited infidelity among others in her suit. The one who commits adultery the the guilty party, not the whole who in response to adultery files for divorce. A woman is brutally beaten to within inches of her life and she walks out yet the society blames her for abandoning her marriage? God hates divorce, but in His love, He makes provision for a an impossible marriage. Marital bonds can be irreconcilably broken dearest. |
Religion / Re: Anita Oyakhilome Gets Divorce Certificate by vooks: 5:18am On Mar 10, 2016 |
analice107:
Brother pls take it easy nah, this issue takes two you know? You can't save anyone who doesn't want saving. Anita is an adult. Anita knows the word of God, she preaches it, but she wants to be like the westerners who pick and choose what to obey or disobey from the Bible. Pastor Chris is a victim in this case really. It's really unfortunate. My beloved sister, Why is Oyaks a victim? It takes two to keep a marriage and it also takes two to break it. What you are doing is blaming the one who files for a divorce instead of attempting to understand her circumstances. A woman is subjected to neglect, infidelity and probably violence but when she opts out you heap ALL blame on her? But this was not even my point, my point was that this divorce is a chink in the armor of invincibility worn by these false gospeliers. They claim they have the power to live above want, disease bla bla, power over circumstances, they are gods BUT a personal problem spirals out of control as they watch. Faith does not make you superhuman who is immune to frailties of the flesh. This is a fat lie |
Religion / Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by vooks: 5:05am On Mar 10, 2016 |
Gombs:
*mild editing Gombs Gombs, what is CONVICT THE WORLD OF SIN? Joagbaje's definition is narrow for if sin ONLY means unbelief in Jesus, then all who never heard about Jesus have never sinned Here is a biblical definition of sin; 1 John 3:4 (KJV) for sin is the transgression of the law. So please try and avoid clichés 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Did Joseph Prince Really Say This? by vooks: 4:45am On Mar 10, 2016 |
Joagbaje:
i didn't say masturbation is ok. its a bad habit and it can be demonic also. but not a sin against God. its your body. people maturbate for medical test. if its not a sin to do it for medical test then it shouldn't be a sin otherwise. secondly lustful thought is not the same as mastubation. its a different thing on its own So you saying the fact that it is employed medically is what makes it no sin? Lustful thoughts are not masturbation and nobody said they are, but if one is a sin and it is fueled by the other, both are sin, which is precisely why Peter prescribes sobriety in dressing by women Now let me ask you. Is watching porn a sin? 1 Like |