Jeon:


All Men's mothers are good. And Men see their moms as an Angel, even if she's the general master in the coven .

That is respect for mothers. The mother earned and deserves his respect.

Even if anyone will describe her as the worst mother on earth, the fact that she birthed me and raised me earned her my respect.

Magnoliaa:


Honestly. Ask them what submission is and they'll tell you the most basic, prerequisite interpersonal qualities for a successful marriage that husband and wife should both have.

Ask them what not being submissive is and they'll describe a badly behaved woman, which is simply her temperament and that nobody, not her family or children or boss should put up with.


They'll bring the definitions of other things and be substituting it for submission.

Please tell us your definition of submission or submissive woman.

Kobojunkie:
Precisely!

Tell us your definition of submission or a submissive man.

udede:
I need a lady that want to go into contract marriage with me for some years. The aim is to have children but if along the line we realized that we are compatible enough to spend the rest of our lives together in love, then so be it.

I also need advice on this from people who are into it.

All the single ladies, come in here and price udede

Kobojunkie:
I see this is all about preprogramming and nothing more!

Please tell us who has been writing the pre-programme or program?

Who created the concept and idea of marriage?

Do you know more about marriage than the original program writer of marriage?

Who created you, as a whole person?

Tell us!

Kobojunkie:
1. A man should have the same responsibilities towards the wife that a submissive woman should equally have towards her husband implying both are to submit to each other. However, you then argue, illogically, that the man is not to submit but to assert himself above the woman in an unexplained twist which you blame on culture and religion, both of them known to be illogical in orientation.

2. Again, Culture and religion are both illogical constructs. If you intend to add that bit regardless, why should you be allowed that privilege? Please stop mentioning God abeg! I expect you to try to use your brain here.

3. Stop rambling and focus abeg! Why should a man who you indicate should exude the very same submissive factors that a submissive woman ought to not be expected to equally submit to the woman?

Again, permit me to correct you: a wife should be submissive to her husband but the husband should not be submissive to his wife.

He can respect, adore, protect, love and project her but never be submissive to her. It is unacceptable and unconventional.

Where a man is submissive to his wife, disaster is waiting to happen when the man realizes who he is: a lion tamed and relegated by a she-goat.

Kobojunkie:
So marriage is business/political agreement after all, is that it? Then like businesses do, it makes absolute sense that a man should be willing to pay full value for the kind of skills/attributes he desires in his woman, right?
@Wallade, see, this guy makes more sense by insisting it should be treated more like businesses where you pay to have your wrench added to the equation rather than assert it by illogical ways such as culture or religion.

If I have to pay, full, half or whatever value, for the kind of skills or attributes I desire in a woman that I married, then she is not different from a prostitute.

That is not a wife, that woman is a prostitute and yes, she deserves to be paid in full for her skills.

Culture and religion may sound illogical to you but I am so sure that you are not a product of lab experiments or natural man made activities. There is somethings or a lot of things Godly about the existence and creation of you and the perverts that desperately want to change the narrative of marriage.

Why do you want to disregard religion and culture to push, support and buttress your narratives?

Kobojunkie:
These are your words
...
To which I then asked....
Now your response which seems to confirm that indeed the man and women are meant to submit to each other in the relationship even though you keep forcing an illogical wrench in to elevate the man above the woman, against logic.
Again, your response suggests they are both to submit to each other.

2. However, you seem to insist that culture is where the irrational twist to what you stated earlier comes from. Why does this Illogical twist have to be included when it's based on the whims and opinions of entities external to the relationship?

If you don't understand my position, ask for clarification: I never said a man should submit to his wife. I made that clear in all my posts.

Literal definition of submission - ready to conform to the authority or will of others (who deserves or earned it, including your husband); meekly obedient or passive.

Again, what is illogical about the husband being above the wife?

That is in conformity with our culture; that also agrees with the personality of a man. Ultimately, that is God's plan for marriage. Marriage was conceptualized and created by God and the man in marriage is created by God to be above his wife.

You and some perverted folks are the ones trying to change the narratives and project your new kind of marriage which is unacceptable to the majority of the men out there and God almighty.

Kobojunkie:
So both man and woman have to possess and exude the same submissive qualities in order for the relationship to make sense but somehow --- here's the illogical twist--- the man is not to submit to the woman at all?

Respectful to his wife, protects his wife, advice his wife, prays and wish his wife well, listens to his wife even when he differs in opinion, where the difference or conflicting opinion persists, the position of the husband is binding on the wife otherwise, she has become disrespectful.

Submit to the leadership, authority and direction of your captain - husband. There can't be two Captains on a ship except one captain submits to be assistant of the other one.

It is against the culture, religion and personality of most men to submit to his wife or woman.

This is not only applicable to Nigerian man it is applicable to men around the world. You are free to check with other men and prove me wrong.

Persephone1:
[i]"Marry a typical Nigerian Man at your own peril"

When I type these words, it's not from a place of hate towards men ( I don't hate anybody) It is from careful analysis of marriages to Nigerian Men which mostly lack genuine love, empathy and kindness. Nigerian Marriages are mostly driven by "needs" and "means" to an end. Too systematic and unnatural and the one with the highest bargaining chip gets the most benefit.

Our mothers didn't teach us enough about Men. They didn't know either until they got married, unfortunately they are still learning about Men too. That is why the popular saying "Ile oko ile eko ni" (Your husband house is a school) is usually the soothing balm to unfavourable experiences a wife has with her husband. One question I always ask myself when I hear these words as parting words of advice for young wife is. Does that mean she is getting married into a strange,unknown and possibly unfavourable world? Why represent her husband as an unending course? And will she ever graduate and be relieved of painful lessons?. Ask these women these questions and they will shake their heads in mockery but the truth is, They weren't taught enough about the Men they are getting married to. How would they when they didn't know who they are either. To understand another person there must be a certain level of self awareness you have reached yourself. This way you have enough level of intelligence to be a perfect judge of character. But when a woman believe all she needs to be is a good cook and good konji reliever then all she will seek is a man who has Kitchen and bed.


Men are the worst in this joke of an institution. Configured to believe all they need to posses is Financial ability to provide. The upbringing of the typical Nigerian Man is very very wrong. Trained with little to no empathy,kindness, self care, sense of belonging, self love but burdened with sense of responsibility brought up like a robot to "provide" only. Most Nigerian men are robotic minded, unable to connect emotionally without aide yet this men are expected to naturally see their brides as a part of themselves. Wishful thinking if you ask me. And when some men luckily achieve this, the society (Men and Women) mock him. Aside this, they don't readily know what they want and are easily tossed by the society.

We create a society devoid of emotional engagement but want the benefits emotions birth. Compassion and affections brings liberty, a man who lacks these will see his wife as his slave and property, he gets to do with her what he seem best and not what is good for her. We really have a long way to go as a Society.

Nigerian Men make terrible horsebands

You made some good observations but you lost my support when you started making condescending remarks about men. Mind you, the men you referred to includes your dad, grandfather, brothers, friends and relations.

Marriages everywhere around the world are mostly driven by "needs" and "means" to an end. It has been like that for centuries and will remain like that forever. Love, affection, empathy, compassion, kindness etc are no longer the pry factors that determine marriage. Money, economic power, social influence, material resources are now pry and major factors that determine marriages. That change is majorly influenced by the brides family, society, friends, folks and women that we marry.

Can you stay in marriage, be submissive and respect your husband that is loving, affectionate, empathetic, compassionate, kind and care more about himself but with little or no money, economic power, social influence and material resources?

I want you to answer this question honestly and carefully.

We encourage self awareness for women and men but not to the point that we become disrespectful, insulting and condescending about the male gender, or female gender as the case maybe.

Kobojunkie:
These are all qualities a man should equally have towards his wife though. Yet you repeat them all just so as to asset the man as captain. How come?

I agree that these are qualities the man also needs to exhibit in relationship with his wife but the man should not be submissive to his wife, except if the wife is his boss in the work environment.

In every successful organization, there is hierarchy and line of authority. Everyone needs to understand their roles and hierarchy in the marriage.

The husband is the Chairman of the Board of Directors while the wife is the Managing Director. Marriages that doesn't have that understanding will struggle significantly.

Your husband is your captain, run your decisions by him for approval, concurrence and authority. Respect your husband and every other person will respect him especially when they have a lot of respect for you.

If you understand that concept, your marriage will not struggle.

Magnoliaa:


And there's still nothing gender-specific about this, so I wonder why it's always an advice directed at women.

It is not gender specific however, every successful organization has hierarchy. In the home, the norm is that the man is the chief captain, the wife is the assistant captain while the children are players.

It is only expected that respect flows within this line of authority, top to bottom. Essentially, where conflicting views arise, the husband's will should stand out of respect.

Men are expected to be submissive to their bosses, male or female. Men are expected to be submissive to elders, their fathers and mothers. Men are expected to be respectful to their wife and children but never to be submissive to his wife and children.

omoharry:
I tell you ! See them flying all over the place like birds .

Is that all you see on this thread?

Yinkaolola:


Even if the husband is on the wrong side, he has the final say? Even if he is making an obviously wrong decision, does he also have the final say? I just want to know.

There is a way to correct your husband without making him feel terrible, despised, disrespected or scolded.

There is a way to direct him towards the decision that you prefer and he will take the decision as you wish with pleasure.

epainos:
This thread shows me that Nigerian men are not preparing towards the days our law will favor women more. Ok. Let them be looking for submissive wives they want to put in the back seat. They will only frustrate themselves cos it will happen soon.

That day will not come, except you separate the North from Nigeria and remove the Moslems from Nigeria. That is very impossible.

eazzzy1:
A submissive woman to me is one who understands and acknowledges hierarchy and structure. One who agrees with the concept of her husband being the head of the family.

It doesn’t mean she doesn’t have her ideas or she sheepishly follows her husband, it means whenever there is a conflict of ideas her husband has the final say even if she doesn’t entirely agrees with him.

A good example of submissiveness is the relationship between the Appeal court and the Supreme Court. You don’t see Appeal court judges pouting when the Supreme Court overturns their decision. That’s Acknowledgement of hierarchy.

No institution can survive without a clearly defined structure and hierarchy, if you don’t want to be a submissive woman, marry a submissive husband. Even in partnerships, there’s always a managing partner who’s the head.

God bless you sir or madam.

CandidAdmin:
One keeps hearing from the men on NL that they want a submissive woman. Almost every thread about relationships and marriage has that word.

Now, over to the men, what's your definition of submissive?
Is it that when you say A, she must obey and not say B?
Or she shouldn't even give her opinion at all?
Or her choices and prefrences don't matter at all just because you want something?

Men!!! Let's discuss.

Question of the day - True or false, Responsibility without Authority is Slavery?

Mynd44
Nlfpmod

A submissive woman is respectful to her husband, protects her husband, advice her husband, prays and wish her husband well, listens to her husband even when she differs in opinion; she finds the best time and approach to communicate her opinion to him and trust me, he will agree with her respectfully too but if he insists, just follow through with caution.

In fact respect is the key word. He is the captain and she is the assistant captain in the home.

israelmao:
For Nigerian currency regain or gain our refineries must work and Dangote Refinery and his cohorts should stop playing politics in commencing operation,round-tripling of dollar and its hoarding must stop.

Your comment hit the nail on the head. Whatever monetary policy Cardoso and co. introduce must be in tandem with fiscal policies of the government to successfully improve living standards and value of the Nigerian currency.

Nigeria must enforce laws against dollarization of the economy. So many transactions are done within Nigeria in dollars and forex. The Nigerian government must discourage this development. The government is also guilty because major transactions and contracts too are awarded in dollars by the government. Properties in real estate, airline ticket sales, solid mineral resources and bulk petroleum products are sold in forex within Nigeria.

The major import item in Nigeria is petroleum products, it is sourced from a major product (crude oil) that we export. We must urgently start local production of petroleum products to reduce, to the barest minimum, the imports of petroleum products. This will reduce over 50% demand for dollars in the I and E window and parallel market.

CBN should terminate all Bureau De Change licenses and declare that business illegal in Nigeria. Anyone who wants to buy or sell forex should approach the commercial and regional banks or deposit money banks. CBN must also regulate and monitor the forex transactions of all deposit money banks to ensure there are no foul practices and perversion in the banks with respect to forex trade. This will bring significant, about 80% - 90%, forex in Nigeria into the I and E Window or under the control of CBN.

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Karmar03:
low key gay man wetin dey worry you...your madness is raise to the power of infinity

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ladybak47:
I am urging the government officials to legalize homosexuality and help curb this predicament of ungenuinely conforming to this useless heterosexual orientation.

Failure to do so will turn us into monsters.and we will wreck any straight man or straight woman to pieces or even kill them

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Your madness is on a long thing

I don't really see any racist behavior on the part of the immigration officer. You took advantage of their system.

You applied for a Visa as a visitor but you also had the intention to birth your child in Canada. I bet he didn't disclose that his wife will be traveling pregnant and almost due for delivery in Canada. The government of Canada does not encourage such practice, you just provided another child for them that they originally didn't plan to have and they now have to cater for the child because whatever the case may be now, they have a Canadian citizen in your care and home.

sholatech:
Babachir just exposed his illiteracy. He doesn't even know requirements of a CBN governor. He is only using his myopic eyeballs at Cardoso's public/fiscal experience. Did you check Cardoso's academic and banking experiences? A former Citibank Board chair?? Economic PHd holder in top foreign school? What's Babachir's Cv like outside Naija local politics?

He mentioned "we farmers" so you should understand his pain with Cardoso. He feels bad with CBN policies on on importation of rice, Anchor Borrowers Program and others. He was obviously a beneficiary of those policies under Buhari.

They want to continue selling substandard rice to us at expensive rates. Everyone trying to exploit others.

netpro:


The cheerleading role of anyone causing nuisance is well known. And we all know how it ends.

We will see as it unfolds.

netpro:


Each time you guys keep urging folks on to a destructive part. Once they hit the rocks you leave them in the cold and scamper to another unsuspecting nuisance to cheer.

We have seen these severally. Imagine believing the government can do nothing and is helpless.

I didn't compel NLC or TUC to take these actions. They must have thought about the various actions, planned them and they must be prepared for the consequences, positive or negative.

They are adults and leaders who know the consequences of their actions and also have reasons for their actions.

They don't need me or anyone to cheer them, they just want you to operate the principle of "an injury to one is an injury to all".

However, you are free not to associate with the unions. Make no mistake to think that they believe that government can not do anything or that the government is helpless.

netpro:


The November 14th threat has nothing to do with their negotiations with the Feds.

If NLC wants to leave the core issues about workers welfare to chase rats regarding Imo, that will be their undoing.

The President have been lenient. It should not be considered as weakness.

Please advise the president not to be lenient. Let him bring his worst actions to the table.

What else is he bringing on? Have you gone around to see the mood of people in the nation?

Since you are one of the goons receiving monthly stipend from the government associates or proxies, you may not understand.

Never should organized labour unions tolerate the dehumanization, physical attacks and injury to their members, especially the NLC president.

B.A. Tinubu himself should understand because he was also a victim several years back, of he needs to be reminded. The action he takes now will relieve the tension or aggravate it.

netpro:


Let their madness be limited to Imo State. Trying to shut down Nigeria is what I am against. If they proceed with the threat, NLC will get what it is looking for. There will surely be a proper beating.

They are aware that you will be planning more beating, attacks, violation of fundamental human rights so they have a contingency plan for you as well.

They have decided to treat the dehumanization of the NLC president in Imo state as a national issue, rightfully so. Let's see what will do about it?

netpro:


NLC threatened to shut all economic activities in Nigeria come November 14th because of the Imo beating. And today, NLC locked up Abuja airport.

For more than a week now, no light in Imo State because of NLC.

Are you aware that NLC had pending issues with the Federal Government in the first place, the Imo state beating of the president has worsened the situation.

Tell the Nigeria Police, Federal and State government to endeavor to be civil in addressing or resolving issues.

Workers strike is a legitimate dispute resolution tool.

netpro:


And if any state choose not to join the strike, what will you do?

We shall see. Besides, I am just one person not the entire union.

How many people do you want to fight, beat, whip-inyo-line, intimate and dehumanize?

netpro:


What happened in Imo State should stay in Imo. 3 governorship elections are holding this Saturday. Why only Imo? Because Oga Chairman has vested interests.

Since he brought thuggery into this campaign. Beating is now the measuring baseline throughout his days as NLC Chairman.

Unfortunately, the desperate governor and Nigerian Police with support of whoever got the intimidation and violation of fundamental human rights approach wrong when they chose to victimize the president of NLC. They need to be made to understand that it is unacceptable and will not be excused.

They must face the consequences. The Nigerian Police reluctantly reacted with replacement of the CP of IMO state despite the outcry. That indicates that the Federal Nigerian Police may also be involved in the plan to dehumanize, attack and violate the NLC president.

I am not a fan of the various labour unions but I respect the unions and will never treat the president of a union in that manner.

netpro:


I don't condole what happened to him. I am against transfer aggregation and the punishment of over 200 million Nigerians economically. Especially at a critical time like this.

Who is punishing or transferring aggression to the 200 million people?

FreeStuffsNG:

Certainly, Lagos state will not join the strike and I am sure that South West and the North will not too.
Labour Party has lule pii again, they should try another Trojan horse as this one has failed.

Anyone who is aggrieved should go to court if they have their facts and evidence. The National Assembly will be held liable for not doing its job of protecting our democracy if they don't enact law that will separate NLC from Labour Party

I want to see the states that will not join the strike.

The level of thuggery, hostility, lawlessness, killings, kidnappings and wickedness in Imo state is ridiculous.

Especially when the governor and Nigerian Police is involved.