DrAdonis:


The so called hearsay that 500 passed is just what it is - a hearsay!
There's no way 500 will pass and MDCN will upload 200 names and even university of ilorin will keep quiet...That will just be MDCN challenging the credibility of the exam which UITH staff won't take lightly.

I think you're trying to claim quality of medical education in those aforementioned countries is better than in Nigeria because you have not started clinical practice. I bet you, you'll know better someday.

Medical education in Nigeria is top notch (the lecturers, curriculum, regulation and accreditation) - take it or leave it. I never knew till I interacted with doctors from all over the world. Someone who trained in Ukraine told me that he never examined a patient as a medical student, I still find that hard to believe till date but it's the truth.

We may not have the best hostels, sporting facilities and diagnostic equipment but being a good doctor has absolutely nothing to do with having a PET scan or brachytherapy machine, it's just about taking a good history, an examination and being able to put those together with the available relevant investigation report.

Is not only one medical school that is in Ukraine oga.Please read the post again and see the threats and saucy words dished out by Dr sanusi. UITH also affirmed that 500 names were sent and they are surprised how only 200 was uploaded. Don't contradict the post, it was clearly stated there. Our medical schools are trying but not yet top notch, you use top notch when you are referring to John Hopkins, Harvard, Yale, Oxford or Stanford.

charleymed:
Envy??
Are you kidding me?
If at all I want to be envious, at least I won't be envious of some one that schooled in Ukraine.
What for na??
See, if you give me a scholarship to study medicine in Ukraine, I will gladly turn it down for UI or anyother federal university in Nigeria.
Just do your research, Nigeria is not that bad.

About people going to India , if the government refuses to invest in healthcare, whose fault is it.
Not just that, people go there for different reasons, some to show off, cos I have seen someone that went to India for common herniaorraphy that can be done very well here, he only wanted to show that he is rich.
It happens everywhere.
People also leave India to receive treatment in the US and vice versa. But that doesn't mean they're grossly ineffectient in handling such issues.

Stop using Ukraine as a case study, a lot is happening over there man. UKRAINE have good medical schools likewise bad ones, this is something obtainable everywhere. I don't know what gave you the notion that UKRAINE is bad, I wish you meet a well read medical student studying in Ukraine, I promise you, you will change your opinion about them with alacrity. Forget hearsay, do your google research, they have one of the best medical school(s).

charleymed:
If Dr sanusi really said that, then it's unprofessional to say the least. But that not withstanding, if thoroughly analysed one could get a glimpse at why anyone would say so.
This so called foreign trained doctors have an over inflated ego. Imagine one of them, whom I know very well, the highest he ever had in jamb was 170, that's after several attempts, bragging about how well trained and advanced he is.
He even went further to say that, MDCN should thank them for even considering coming back to practice, instead of giving them some exams to write. And he schooled in Ukraine, in a school whose physical and academic facilities are not up-to anatomy department in UI.
Off course, he failed the licensing exams and now works in some bank.

These guys don't that we are allow aware of the circumstances surrounding their disappearance and reappearance...
Everyone just wants to form foreign, even when they now they are not better.

Thanks for your understanding.

You are on point, just that you like generalizing. What you posted as for foreign students studying in substandard schools is true but not absolute.That scenario is one that can also be obtained in Nigeria. Some students are very serious while others care less, some schools are more standard than others while some are living in past glories with there names inundating the achievements of other upcoming schools.
If we have over 200 medical schools in Ukraine, believe me you close to twenty will be very standard.This is not alien to what is obtainable here in Nigeria. Don't underestimate or underrate all foreign students that come your way, some of them are very good with what they are doing while others are not. My point... Stop generalizing. While we have good ones, we also have bad ones.
I know someone who left for overseas(ukraine) because his jamb was seized and released after the screening exam. What did he score then? 272,his waec was 4As and 5B2s, is that not great?and I know another who scored 222 with Caution in his waec, studying mbbs in UNN. Anyways thanks for your time, see you around.

B

charleymed:
Normally, I would have ignored you but you seem to be very intelligent, hence we can have a meaningful discussion.
When I'm talking abroad, I'm not talking about UK, USA Australia, Cuba and there likes, these are countries with track record and quality control system in medical training and education.
The countries I listed still stands and I can go ahead to prove my point.
Let's take Ukraine as a case study,
Before the advent of the mass exodus of frustrated Nigerian admission seekers to Ukraine for medical education, was anything known about Ukraine??
Ukraine as everyone know has no record whatsoever in education let alone medical education. Even their citizens don't stay in their country.

For the little time i have spent on earth, I have never heard of anyone one securing admission to study medicine by just applying online, without any form entrance exams or scrutiny. It only happens in Ukraine, where one who's not even qualified for admission into biology education in UI will gain admission into a medical school in less than 24 hours.
That says a lot about the system.
Ukraine is not even an English speaking country, and it wants to train students in English??
A friend of mine that schools there told me that they normally use interpreters for most of their lecture sessions. They're not even allowed to dissect cadavers. And most of the medical schools are just a single block, more like a department in a typical medical school in Nigeria, with the 6-10 bed improvised teaching hospital. WTF is that.
Come to think of it...
How can a country as small as Ukraine have over 250 medical schools, even neighbouring Russia which is more advanced can't boast of such. How do they fund it?
That's to tell you that it's a hoax and a ploy to defraud people of their resources.

If those countries are as good as you think, why can't they practice after graduation??
Why do they have to come back to a failed system just to fail a 500 level exams??
Nigerias medical education might be bad, but it's far better than those ones in Ukraine.
Talking about failing jamb and jamb not being a standard for measuring intelligence, well that's what we have and we use it.
It's not just peculiar to Nigeria, even in USA... More people going to Caribbean islands to study medicine from USA, failed MCAT at several attempts. Or you want to say that MCAT is not a standard exams??

Okay you have a point. I thought you were generalizing. But from the post, do you in anyway acquiesce to the kind of hate speeches dished out by Dr sanusi on those medical students? For me it's not justifiable in any way. From what I could elicit from him(dr sanusi), I only see a man filled with dudgeon and acrimony. He had already judged them before the exam they took. The write up, said that UITH sent up-to 500 names of those that surpassed the exam but the Dr decided to upload only 200 which is still very wrong, what happened to the remaining names.
Though we have mushroom medical schools littered almost in every part of the world but notwithstanding, there are still good ones too. Ukraine for instance, has a good medical school (kharkiv medical school),a very standard school, Just google it.Though the most important thing is self development but school is also important. Likewise in Nigeria, there is unn, UI, OAU, and there is Lasu, esut, ebsu, imsu and also babcock, It doesn't mean that if I couldn't get UI that babcock or Lasu is not an option.If I can't lay my hands on iPhone, there are other options like techno, Samsung, or even Nokia,at the end we are still doing the same thing.
As for the exam they took, it's like that in every part of the world,why are Nigerian students striving to write PLAB or USLME and leave Nigeria? don't we have jobs for them?haha, the poor salary and hardship is a red flag Mr.Some FMs have ambitions like politics,or to contribute their quota in the development of Nigeria.So it's paramount that you participate in the exam and also in nysc to avail you the ambition you seek. Don't also forget racism exist in all these foreign countries, so to practice won't be easy. There are so many things that can make one opt to come home to Nigeria.In Ukraine,doctors don't earn much and that could be one of the issues.

lastmessenger:
i see a lot of fight and victimization in the medical profession? Why is it like that bro?

The top men, especially those consultants don't want other juniors to reach there level, so they employ every possible means to inundate their progress. I know it's because of the money but the problem is that they don't even know that we already have shortage of doctors in Nigeria. You will say nobody is holding my destiny but you will know better when you try to progress in the medical line. Recent data shows that close to 1000 doctors resigned from Luth ,recently close to 600 doctors applied for residency in overseas.

charleymed:
In medical training. Yes...
But in my medical profession?? I don't even understand what that means.

;DQuagmired fellow. Our medical training is nothing to write home about too. Too many redundant stress.

charleymed:
Could you please stop ranting.
By "foreign trained " hope you're are not talking about those that trained in Ukraine, Poland, Romania, China, Belarus etc??
To the best of my knowledge, they left because they couldn't pass jamb at several attempts.

And what of those that left willingly due to inefficiency of educational system in Nigeria?, what of those that left because they had the wherewithal? what of those that went through scholarships? I am a medical student in Nigeria and I tell you solemnly if I had my way, I would have gone to UK, Ukraine,cuba, even morrocco. Mr man, Nigeria's education is not something to write home about. Jamb is nothing OK, that someone didn't pass jamb doesn't in anyway depreciate or undermine his academic prowess.
The irony is that after everything your politicians, president and the rich will run to them when they develop a little ailment. And what if they didn't pass jamb? 90% of those that gain admission into Medical College don't reach the cut off marks but they will influence the admission process and go through the back door.
Believe me you, present a foreign trained doctoraand Nigerian trained doctor and I bet you 100% of Nigerians will go for them even you Mr, not minding their college Alma mater. So your argument is baseless, jamb is not a criteria.Please stop your useless comparison, Nigerian's educational system is substandard in all ramifications and it's patent to everyone. Thank God for PLAB and uslme.

Dr sanusi is a frustrated man, how can you brazenly compare the competence of foreign medical students to their colleagues that studied in Nigeria, that is asininity at its apogee. All I see here is a doctor with deep acrimony, envy and personal vendetta against those foreigners.
500 names ware sent to you but you uploaded only 200,for what? Just to prove your lame point Abi? This matter shouldn't be left like that because he can't just be displaying shear wickedness with impunity. All allegations brought against him should be investigated thoroughly, from resources gathered so far, this man takes so much joy in fighting and demeaning FMS,which is of course in its own right, a wrong battle.

See im face like Airfoce1, .

Dr sanusi is an acrimonious entity who needs to be brought to book. All allegations against him should be scrutinized with alacrity. Foreign students sorryoo, I hope he doesn't go Scot free.Dr sanusi should explain what happened to the 500 names sent to him. Useless man!!

If I don't marry simi is either I cut off my thing and become an eunuch or I enter desert monastery. Since I got insomnia I need such a beautiful, toothsome, angelic voice to be taking me to sleep.
Simi just smile for me and none will be gone for good because you are my original baby Chai just be with me so that I won't have the course to take you back.

MrHenshaw:





A very nice photo-kiosk

Try searching for hyperdontia

buskie13:
and unfortunately she's becomes epileptic while at it

And that is how you became genderless

darkenkach:


Are you this daft?

I am so sorry but I think he has tiri options
1.Going back to school to buoy himself and his cv.
2.Going to shiloh , so that baba will handle im matter.
3.Doing plastic surgery so the company won't recognize him.

Growingboi:


Thank you for this advice. I like this company and I wanted to work in the company. I my concern is, it seems they don't even bother to go through my application at all Cox of i submit application today, before same time next day they will just send the regret message. I over pass all the requirement. what could be the issue, what am I getting wrong in the application or does someone mean me among the recruiter there? I keep asking myself

Go to Shiloh.

Abugunkingsley@gmail.com

Infamous:
Structurally, as long as its nigeria, you cannot compare private universities with federal/state universities.
But how do we know if the 'development fees' paid by the students are being managed properly? For all I know, these monies might be tempting to some people, creating room for embezzlement possibilities.

You are right. But we won't because a pastor sins stop going to church. Some schools are making judicious use of it while others... It's a known situation in Nigeria, embezzling, arrogating and squandering of funds meant for erecting and maintaining infrastructures.

kingnas:
scam ooo,,run

I don't think they're genuine neither can I without uncertainty assert that they're scam.
Scam tendencies 8/10
Genuine tendencies 5/10
I just took chances with my 1k.

dhateeboi:


Yes, u?

Yes, me too.When is the exam?

Hozier:
Fake picture.

.
Not really bro

How do you expect them to develop there school, build infrastructures, pay salaries also repair destroyed ones without the fees and also meet up with standards of schools like CU, babcock etc.How do they generate revenues without the fees. Mind you nobody is forcing you to go there OK.
There are other numerous institutions that you can go to.

Pchidexy:
You re a slowpoke. Keep looking for faults. Others are making scientific break through but all you want to find out is peoples fault.

Good luck. I have given you enough of my time.

By the way I am a scientist too and I care about my immediate environment and the ongoings in the world in general and my country specifically. Take care too.

Lalasticala
Mynd44 come and see oo

What sort of thing is this? So gooey I must say, what do you guys have to say about this.

dhateeboi:


Is this the maiden edition kinda?
There doesn't seem to be anything on-net about this

I thought as much. Have you registered?

Pchidexy:
The simple issue is this: focus on your women. Stop saying unverifiable trash against Imo people. Your hypocrisy is as big as your stupidity!

Nna visit a psychiatric home. Delusion is a sickness.

Once again focus on your useless girls leave our girls for us.

Already filled with acrimony and dudgeon and throwing profanities, just because my dinkum riles your anal orifice? Please stop being overly sentimental and childish at the face of patent fact. Be an adult and counter my submissions with your own substatiantal fact and not throwing abusive words. Thank you. #There's no region without a fault but some faults are more tolerable than others, and that is what I mean when I asserted that nsukka (Enugu )girls make the beSt wives.
Take it or leave it, it is an established assertion.

Hmmm a lot to unravel.

Ubiquity:

Give the man above me a chilled bottle of zobolo drink

Please give me kwali, weed mixed with original origin.

Pchidexy:
The issue is this focus on your useless girls. Do you have Chioma Ajunwa, Senator Anyanwu, Ohuruogu, Onyeka Onwenu, Ego, Perpetual Nkwocha, Onwuliri, Ada Okwuonu, Madam Chikwe, Genevieve and countless others.

We bred strong women inugo!

Enugu women, especially those coming from nsukka geographical region are highly conventional and reserved, that's one good trait that facilitates fidelity in marriage and a peaceful home per say. Though in recent times, nsukka women are now developing the tails to join politics which of course is a laudable step. The issue with ladies from your divide is that they are highly exposed and as such gives little or no respect to their husbands.
Please we are talking about marriage here and not about regional achievement. Ofcourse it's an established fact that women from Anambra are widely read and are more exposed and political than people from Enugu but talk of marriage, peaceful home and fidelity Enugu, especially nsukka is second to none. Ask any honest person from your region.

Pchidexy:
You re talking rubbish. Focus on your useless girls and leave Imo state alone. Abeg, promote your own but don't demote my own.

I fvcked a great number of girl at Umuopu Enugu Ezike as a student-teacher . I doesn't make me to call them cheap.

Una people like to talk rubbish.

You ducked village timid naive girls who don't know anything. I know you started by promising them marriage,you should have gone for your standard so that you will be schooled.That's so low of you bro, anyways after everything we are still talking of fidelity in matrimony. Since your story is not empirical, and therefore lacks veracity, I will have to take it with a pinch of salt. IMO =baddest

markbenny:



I have one, getting wedded next year. good woman from Enugu

Happy married life in advance, hope we would be seeing your pretty wedding pic though Enugu people are usually reserved. Please take care of my sister for me, you are a lucky man.Take care and... Congrats.

Pchidexy:
Empty talk! A na akogheri!

I know you ain't from Enugu, so the acrimony is expected ,you better marry Nwa nsukka, Nwa Enugu period.