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Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by epainos: 4:12pm On May 05
newoffer:
Check online. If u want to succeed in this poultry business you must be around. Have other side hustles within your area. That way u can real heavily. U think if I make 500k per month from this I will go and answer yes sir some where u know they won't give u time for yourself. Egg and meat no dey scarce for mouth.
The challenge with you is that you don't get your numbers before and during production. Is this not what I have been trying to check? See...its not an issue of meat and eggs no dey scarce for mouth. With layers, I can make even millions per month. Same with broiler. Yes, despite all odds. However, I am interested in this native too. Do you think I will rush into it with getting my numbers right? How much you sell? How many eggs they produce...you have said nothing na. Except you don't keep record and you aren't observant. You should know by now what it takes to make N500k per month. The question is that...is it worth the stress? No need to answer me...I'm just asking a rheotical question I don't need answers to.

If you don't know what it takes to make N500k per month from this native chickens after the time you have spent, then, you really need to evaluate your approach.

Personally, I dont go with...the is lucrative. Maybe to the person. I want to see the numbers and make my decision. If you don't want to share...its OK. One way or the other, I will get what I need. That's me. I always find a way out.
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by Redomi(m): 4:20pm On May 05
newoffer:
[Why the fowl them come naked wetin happen. Na Agbo Jedi u dey feed them. quote author=Redomi post=129794183]Waooo, I enjoying reading everything from this thread.
I have noilers too, though frizzle feathered I have them since 3 years ago, I saw them inside a carton of noiler I bought from someone on Nairaland, the mother have been laying everyday and not hatching, though I have force it to sit on eggs twice, the first time she managed to hatch 4 of her egg and the second time she hatched two, I had to sell the male crossing it to one guy at 30k, though two of the chicks hatched first time turn to be male, I killed one during last Christmas and I have one left. Two weeks ago I went to market to buy two local hen to help me hatch their eggs, since they all lay everyday and not ready to sit on the eggs. Though I force their mother to sit on the egg on Thursday. The two local hen I bought two weeks ago have started laying.
I feed my noiler anything I see, they eat vegetable leaves, egg shell is their favourite food, I'm also into crop farming, I feed them corn too, though I buy a bag of happy chicken finisher once every month
hahaha, I said the name is frizzle feathered chicken, it's not normal feathered chicken. Mostly used by the herbalist
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by marhoinspire: 4:21pm On May 05
epainos:


I have a question. Let's say I have 50 hens (females) with some cocks. Tell me...how many eggs can I get weekly if I do not allow them to brood the eggs? Their jobs is to job lay eggs....I collect the eggs and incubate in an incubator.

Tell me, how do you make the lay more and more eggs?
Each hen can lay as much as possible in as much thy aren't boarding d eggs, 1 egg each day.
I currently have a hen that is currently laying, as at today she has 18.
I just have to lock her up so she can board.

In as much she remains with the cock, she will keep laying
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by Redomi(m): 4:22pm On May 05
epainos:

Nice....bro...I am interested in getting info on Noiler and frizzled feathered too. That it lays eggs daily caught my attention. This is what I'm talking about bro.


Believe me, if you need to grow exponentially, you should find an incubator. I'm telling you from experience. You will be shocked what you can get. This is a private talk for you. I won't want to expose you here that you should share some vital info. Let's see templates of incubators you can use. Believe me, you can get one. It may require you to safe...but you can get. And the money will come from your business. All I need to see are figures of your sales, and I will show you how you can safe and buy an incubator.

Every problem for me is a winning strategy. Just like how I am trying to win with high cost of day old broiler chicks. I won seriously one time with high cost of feed.

One boy wanted to japa. I had a friend who told me to get him 50 turkeys last year...but no time...he gave me 11 months upfront notification. This guy came at the right time. I just place the opportunity to on his table. He ordered 55 foreign turkeys...and boom....I guided him. He raised some good amount of money. So, this things are opportunities. I am interested in knowing about them all.

I am presently working on ducks too. Trying to find where I can order Khaki Campbell. I want to see how I can grow them to like 100 and then see how 10,000, 50,000...100,000 is possible. There is an opportunity I want to explore with that breed. It is gonna take time, and I am not in hurry.

In all these issues, my major headache is faithful workers. It is why I am slowing down.

But really, I want to invest in the health of my close family members. I don't want to grow old alone. I need people around me too. So, as I am investing in myself, I am investing in others and building a good network.

Brother...thanks for sharing those pics. Bless you. Let's connect also.
I'm happy to meet you sir.
But the cost of incubator is not that easy plus naija unstable electricity
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by epainos: 4:44pm On May 05
Ade3131:


I'm highly interested in knowing more about the commercial side of raising layer birds.... particularly in this time of neck cutting inflation.
Various ways, but the problems there...I can't anymore.. except the commercial production. I can't because of workers' issues. But when you are just starting, you should cut the cost. The methods are growing alternative highly digestible food. Bugs, larvae, and algae. If you are into crop farming... you can grow corn too. You should take your time to learn each of these listed alternatives before going in.

You will make a profit. Trust me. But when you think of the stress, you may not want to dobit again, except you have helping hands. And the moment you introduce such, wahala. So, I do it when I'm motivated to raise money. I did it 2.5 years ago. I'm trying again cos I need to raise a huge amount of money for something. So, imagine you have such weapon in your arsenal, too? I'm trying to load broilers....50 per week...and I won't buy DOCs. So, I'm thinking now....why not noiler, native chicken...etc. Why? Cos I can leave like even 100 to roam around while I'm not around for like 6 mths. Maybe I'm not in the country. So, instead of starting a broiler from scratch, these strong breeds will pick up... and the broiler can enter later... but I will always have a quick jump start as soon as I'm around.

Check my profile and threads for the day old plan. Or click here:
https://www.nairaland.com/8067180/high-cost-day-old-chicks/3#129705534


I know a thing or two about raising birds myself because I've tried it on a medium scale and got the management right but failed at marketing them.
Hmmmm! I have been trying to talk to many here about marketing, but the truth is that many don't want to talk. But see...I can guide you. Check that thread. Right now, I am more into retailing.

I am no longer into supplies cos na slavery. I do everything to sell to direct consumers. This is why I am not trying to do 1,000 birds. Lol. 50 per week... I think I can sell well. If it's just 5, you can sell per week to direct consumers. That's what you should do.

If you can combine sales of just 1 crate of eggs, broilers 2 birds per week, and even native chickens, why not? I would structure the farm to give me these items per week. Sales here can be around N40k to N60k per week. Will that cover your expenses as a startup? If not, start, then push it to 2 crates, 5 broilers per week...and more. If any can't move, remove it or downsize it.

Then, look into turkeys. How many can I sell during Xmas. Calculate your numbers ahead. That turkey will just be "joker" money.

So, marketing goes along with your production. You will need to combine many things. You see me trying to know more. See..what I am sharing here... many of them will NEVER. They are reading...lol. but I am always bigger than them. Why? When you fold your palms, you can't receive them, but open them...and that's it, bro. Give, and it will be given back in thousands folds.



Regarding local hen.... The best they can do is give you an egg each daily, but they start laying at about 5 to 6 months old just like their Isa brown cousins.
If I can get daily egg production...then damn layers....except there is more to it. And even there is more...i can know how to mix both. I'm interested to learn how you make them lay eggs daily. Please drop your WhatsApp. I will connect with you. Or send me a mail.


Raising crossbreed of native hen and (young) broiler Cock or big noiler, or vice versa will yield the best result.
More like noiler. Im interested to know what you know about this....amd your results so far.

I've always been a homesteader but I'll like to take it a step higher and do it on a commercial scale. I want to get into poultry business... for eggs🥚.

I'm also interested in full time fruits and vegetable farming.
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by epainos: 4:47pm On May 05
marhoinspire:

Each hen can lay as much as possible in as much thy aren't boarding d eggs, 1 egg each day.
I currently have a hen that is currently laying, as at today she has 18.
I just have to lock her up so she can board.
Mercy. I'm getting excited. Please, are they fully indoor to lay daily? Or do they still roam about? How do you find their eggs?


In as much she remains with the cock, she will keep laying
OK. I will try this.
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by newoffer: 4:49pm On May 05
Hahahahahahahahaha. I know say na something related to herbalist. Lol.

Redomi:
hahaha, I said the name is frizzle feathered chicken, it's not normal feathered chicken. Mostly used by the herbalist
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by epainos: 4:56pm On May 05
Redomi:
I'm happy to meet you sir.
But the cost of incubator is not that easy plus naija unstable electricity
I know. If you know the cost, you can plan to buy one and solar can power it. You may even import it yourself and can be cheaper. Yes, expensive ....then see how to stress yourself for 6 months and make money with your birds....then...get it. This is why you need numbers to know how much of stress you will endure to raise such cash.

This is how many boys use poultry to "japa". 1 year solid preparation to learn various ways of cutting costs. Then, use another 1 year to execute it. Then 3 months to recuperate before japa. After japa, life changes completely. Can you stress yourself beyond the ordinary to enjoy later?

The only way out is knowing how to check your numbers and formulate a strategy to achieve it. If you need help, you should find one and tackle such like your life depends on it.

You can do everything. But you need to know when to stop so you don't collapse or land in the hospital. Those guys even asked me to put the cost of effective supplements. Also, they "yacked" chicken, eggs, etc anyhow during the hardworking period. Loaded enough food at home.

Na project sir.

I laugh the way ppl complain on NL. And the way, they do things without getting their numbers right first.

It is well.
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by Redomi(m): 5:22pm On May 05
epainos:

I know. If you know the cost, you can plan to buy one and solar can power it. You may even import it yourself and can be cheaper. Yes, expensive ....then see how to stress yourself for 6 months and make money with your birds....then...get it. This is why you need numbers to know how much of stress you will endure to raise such cash.

This is how many boys use poultry to "japa". 1 year solid preparation to learn various ways of cutting costs. Then, use another 1 year to execute it. Then 3 months to recuperate before japa. After japa, life changes completely. Can you stress yourself beyond the ordinary to enjoy later?

The only way out is knowing how to check your numbers and formulate a strategy to achieve it. If you need help, you should find one and tackle such like your life depends on it.

You can do everything. But you need to know when to stop so you don't collapse or land in the hospital. Those guys even asked me to put the cost of effective supplements. Also, they "yacked" chicken, eggs, etc anyhow during the hardworking period. Loaded enough food at home.

Na project sir.

I laugh the way ppl complain on NL. And the way, they do things without getting their numbers right first.

It is well.
Thank you so much sir, I understand everything you said. But I will have to save towards buying an incubator and also a solar. That's not gonna be easy cos I know it's going to be expensive. I'll see what I can do
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by Redomi(m): 5:22pm On May 05
newoffer:
Hahahahahahahahaha. I know say na something related to herbalist. Lol.

haha, apart from herbalist, it's exotic birds. They have more meat than normal birds
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by epainos: 6:41pm On May 05
Redomi:
Thank you so much sir, I understand everything you said. But I will have to save towards buying an incubator and also a solar. That's not gonna be easy cos I know it's going to be expensive. I'll see what I can do

Why do you think it is not going to be easy? Do you think you can't buy one from this business you are doing? It seems you all still don't tap into what I am sharing here. Guy....nothing is impossible. Find out what it is going to take. Nope. You just gave up again. Oh. Incubator is expensive...I can't do it. Lol.

OK. Let me teach you negotiation technique. OK. Let me write it here.

How many chickens can I sell to buy an incubator using solar. Of course, the first step is to know the kind of incubator you need. Well, I know it is hard to do if you don't know much about electrical and electronics connections. Then, match it with the power (always below 100w...I think around 40W to 80w). Let's say you can hatch 100 eggs at a time with 40W....just saying...you need to configure it to arrange yourself. Also, look into using hatcheries...see...if its cost effect. What you can do is...bulk up...store eggs for 7 days... let's say you have 50 birds....for 7 days...you get like 450 eggs. Candle them and let's say you need 1000 females...think...you can do it.

If i was close to you, I would definitely look into working with you....maybe trade by barter....but I think we live in different states. But I can assist you configure the right incubator for your setup...so that you can know what you need....and the cost.
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by Redomi(m): 7:28pm On May 05
epainos:


Why do you think it is not going to be easy? Do you think you can't buy one from this business you are doing? It seems you all still don't tap into what I am sharing here. Guy....nothing is impossible. Find out what it is going to take. Nope. You just gave up again. Oh. Incubator is expensive...I can't do it. Lol.

OK. Let me teach you negotiation technique. OK. Let me write it here.

How many chickens can I sell to buy an incubator using solar. Of course, the first step is to know the kind of incubator you need. Well, I know it is hard to do if you don't know much about electrical and electronics connections. Then, match it with the power (always below 100w...I think around 40W to 80w). Let's say you can hatch 100 eggs at a time with 40W....just saying...you need to configure it to arrange yourself. Also, look into using hatcheries...see...if its cost effect. What you can do is...bulk up...store eggs for 7 days... let's say you have 50 birds....for 7 days...you get like 450 eggs. Candle them and let's say you need 1000 females...think...you can do it.

If i was close to you, I would definitely look into working with you....maybe trade by barter....but I think we live in different states. But I can assist you configure the right incubator for your setup...so that you can know what you need....and the cost.
Thank you sir, please can we talk on Whatsapp? I will like to have an incubator, but I don't know much it will cost to have an incubator that uses solar or batteries
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by epainos: 8:11pm On May 05
Redomi:
Thank you sir, please can we talk on Whatsapp? I will like to have an incubator, but I don't know much it will cost to have an incubator that uses solar or batteries
OK. drop your WhatsApp number
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by Redomi(m): 9:00pm On May 05
epainos:

OK. drop your WhatsApp number
check my signature under this comment
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by newoffer: 9:41pm On May 05
U know better.
Redomi:
haha, apart from herbalist, it's exotic birds. They have more meat than normal birds
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by Redomi(m): 9:44pm On May 05
newoffer:
U know better.
That male among them weight more than 5kg
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by newoffer: 10:47pm On May 05
Seriously. Cold no go do them sos with their feather that looks scanty. Hope this season will be good for poultry farmers.
Redomi:
That male among them weight more than 5kg
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by newoffer: 11:06pm On May 05
Am building a bigger pen house for the birds. I cannot give u numbers till I put the standard birds cage in place. They lay between 12 to 15 at most times. I sell 6k. While my own people sell cheaper to people around. Am putting all my skills into the new phase of the local chicken because it's another arm of the poultry. The new cage will take like 100 layers while the local be on their hundreds because people from different section comes for it.
Plain white plain black are in high demand. The management is what am improving now. So we can forecast expectations. It is lucrative
epainos:

The challenge with you is that you don't get your numbers before and during production. Is this not what I have been trying to check? See...its not an issue of meat and eggs no dey scarce for mouth. With layers, I can make even millions per month. Same with broiler. Yes, despite all odds. However, I am interested in this native too. Do you think I will rush into it with getting my numbers right? How much you sell? How many eggs they produce...you have said nothing na. Except you don't keep record and you aren't observant. You should know by now what it takes to make N500k per month. The question is that...is it worth the stress? No need to answer me...I'm just asking a rheotical question I don't need answers to.

If you don't know what it takes to make N500k per month from this native chickens after the time you have spent, then, you really need to evaluate your approach.

Personally, I dont go with...the is lucrative. Maybe to the person. I want to see the numbers and make my decision. If you don't want to share...its OK. One way or the other, I will get what I need. That's me. I always find a way out.
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by Redomi(m): 11:13pm On May 05
newoffer:
Seriously. Cold no go do them sos with their feather that looks scanty. Hope this season will be good for poultry farmers.
I have suspended buying of doc for now and concentrated on my crop farming
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by epainos: 5:50am On May 06
newoffer:
Am building a bigger pen house for the birds. I cannot give u numbers till I put the standard birds cage in place. They lay between 12 to 15 at most times.
Do they lay daily, and lay around 12 to 15? Then they stop. Right? How long rest?

My question is this. Can they lay continuously daily if they don't try to hatch their eggs themselves? If not, how often?

I know where I am heading, but guys aren't given me the right answers. Someone wrote that as long as their are males around, they lay eggs. But thats not so true. Birds lay eggs even when males aren't around. The conditions foe this to happen is what you find. But I know that the quality of feed matters. If they get the right amount of energy level, crude protein, and essential vitamins and minerals, they will lay without males...just won't produce fertile eggs.

These native are indigenes to our locations, and they eat everything....it doesn't mean they are well taking care of well. But even you give them the best, they won't grow bigger or may not lay as much eggs as commercial kinds. Or maybe lean meat is OK. If I am to market lean meat, then, I will try to find high valued buyers who understand the real value. When I find a sick person looking for lean meat desperately, I will sell at N15k each. Then, i will produce less. What I used 10 months to take care of. If not, I may not do it of I see the numbers. But if the productivity is extremely explosive, hmmmm....and I see N5k can shoot a good profit, why not?


I sell 6k. While my own people sell cheaper to people around. Am putting all my skills into the new phase of the local chicken because it's another arm of the poultry. The new cage will take like 100 layers while the local be on their hundreds because people from different section comes for it.
Plain white plain black are in high demand. The management is what am improving now. So we can forecast expectations. It is lucrative
6k looks good, but does it really make sense for 10 months old birds? You even said your people sell cheaper to neighbors...lol.

I am not criticising anyone, but you guys just entered this business blindly without forecasting your numbers first. It is too dangerous. Imagine spending so many years tweaking this and then find out that it is not worth the stress. Also, imagine you want to buy a car for yourself and you could project 2 year hardwork to do this because you have your numbers right. You should know the numbers of birds to sell, and then, how you will manage space very well...how you dispose males off fast. Before you know it, you have gone ahead to expand your market...and then, boom. You raise the bar again. But when you can't answer questions and give numbers, it is extremely hard to be progressive. Na to just dey do am anyhow...and it's lucrative to the person. Why? Just cos feed is almost zero. Lol. Think deeper. Why would I want to focus only on what I cannot use to raise huge money?

Maybe after seeing the numbers and it's not so good for expansion, then, I keep it small for monthly family upkeep. Then, I check broilers, turkey, ducks, quails, noilers, layers, etc for the ones I can use to raise cash. How do I source money? Cages or pens? How much will the project cost. Can I do it alone? Many questions to answer. And if you can, before you know it, you have raised 30 million naira. You don build your house. Or you don't buy a car....or you don japa. If the whole plan will take 3 years to execute, it is worth it.


If I see numbers, I know straight up if I want to do it or not.

Please, I won't really go into this again so it doesn't look like I am criticising you. Not my intention at all. I only want to help...but since you aren't opening up well.. all I can say is that....be fruitful...and multiply in folds.
Re: Journey On My Local Chicken Production by marhoinspire: 8:46am On May 06
epainos:

Mercy. I'm getting excited. Please, are they fully indoor to lay daily? Or do they still roam about? How do you find their eggs?

Thy roam around, once thy lay, u will definitely know if u are around
You did hear cry of celebration

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