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Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by 22jumpstreet: 6:21pm On May 06
Emusan:


You're not God to know this.

So don't conclude on His behalf.



Sure and no doubt about that.



That is why He is Almighty.

If Angels who are part of His creation can take on human form then I don't see the reason why that will be so difficult for God to do.

With God ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.



Because He is Almighty God is the very reason it's easy for Him to be Human and not cease to still be God.

God can appear in all 36 states of Nigeria plus FCT at the same time and still be on His throne in Heaven.

So stop looking at God as just a mere immutable entity.

Based on the discovery of scientists (I assume you believe in God) about how magnificent the Universe is, how can the the entity behind such creation called God can achieve that the way you view Him as mere immutable being?

Only an unimaginable being can achieve that.

I guess I will just leave you to your beliefs..if it makes and sense to you...every man with his truth..
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Kobojunkie: 7:43pm On May 06
AbuTwins:
■ YHWH is not a man and does not becomes a man! He is omniscient and absolute eternal i.e. do not ever die. His knowledge and power is never restricted at anytime!
■If God created man in His image what image does God possess? Tall or short image? Fat or thin image? Beautiful or ugly image? Man or woman's image? Black race or white race image?
1. The key here is God(YHWH included) created man in His image. That is what is written. undecided

2. Well, given that the image was eventually cursed by YHWH in [b]Genesis 3[/b, you and I may never know. What we know is that image existed in both the male and female that He created. But sadly, the image had to be cursed by Him because they failed to live up to His expectations. undecided

Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 7:32am On May 07
Kobojunkie:
1. The key here is God(YHWH included) created man in His image. That is what is written. undecided
So what image does YHWH have? Explain?

2. Well, given that the image was eventually cursed by YHWH in [b]Genesis 3[/b, you and I may never know. What we know is that image existed in both the male and female that He created. But sadly, the image had to be cursed by Him because they failed to live up to His expectations. undecided
Just simple say you don't know if you don't know! The way this is interpreted in Islam is that Allah has some features that man possess but His features are nothing like humans. Allah has hands and feet but not like man's!

There's always a problem interpreting some things literally at times!

God created man in His image, okay define God's image with the diverse image of man?
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Kobojunkie: 1:59pm On May 07
AbuTwins:
So what image does YHWH have? Explain?
■ Just simple say you don't know if you don't know! The way this is interpreted in Islam is that Allah has some features that man possess but His features are nothing like humans. Allah has hands and feet but not like man's! There's always a problem interpreting some things literally at times! God created man in His image, okay define God's image with the diverse image of man?
undecided

2. So, your goal all along has been to reject the words written of YHWH all to assert different ideas that are instead connected to a different deity, your Muslim Allah!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 10:49am On May 08
Kobojunkie:
undecided

2. So, your goal all along has been to reject the words written of YHWH all to assert different ideas that are instead connected to a different deity, your Muslim Allah!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I answer questions based on what is asked!
And i am a Muslim.
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Kobojunkie: 1:48pm On May 08
AbuTwins:
∆I answer questions based on what is asked!
And i am a Muslim.
Based on what is asked? Ha! 😆
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 1:58pm On May 08
Kobojunkie:
Based on what is asked? Ha! 😆

Yes!
Do you not answer question based on what is asked?
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Kobojunkie: 2:05pm On May 08
AbuTwins:
■ Yes! Do you not answer question based on what is asked?
One thing I have learned to be the case with religious folks, is that they rarely answer questions based on what is asked just as they seldom process information presented as-is. And you are no different I am afraid. It is almost some sort of compulsion with you religious people. grin

The passage in Genesis 2 indicates, in clear speak, that indeed, Elohim was able to create man in His image. But, you can't have it that way, can you? Your religious ideas won't let you accept that because it all has to be twisted in the light of the ideas you already come preprogrammed with, right? grin

Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 2:15pm On May 08
Kobojunkie:
One thing I have learned to be the case with religious folks, is that they rarely answer questions based on what is asked just as they seldom process information presented as-is. And you are no different I am afraid. It is almost some sort of compulsion with you religious people. grin

The passage in Genesis 2 indicates, in clear speak, that indeed, Elohim was able to create man in His image. But, you can't have it that way, can you? Your religious ideas won't let you accept that because it all has to be twisted in the light of the ideas you already come preprogrammed with, right? grin

So i asked what Image does your own version of God have?

We have thousands images of man nowadays!
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Kobojunkie: 2:18pm On May 08
AbuTwins:
■ So i asked what Image does your own version of God have? We have thousands images of man nowadays!
LOL....You are informed that man was made in the image of Elohim and Elohim certified the original product as good by His standard. Accept that at least, and then go from there to search for answers to this other question you have. Your OP claims Elohim cannot come in the likelihood of a man, but here is a passage telling you that ain't true at all. Do you accept it or do you not? That is the issue here. undecided

Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 2:20pm On May 08
Kobojunkie:
LOL....You are informed that man was made in the image of Elohim and Elohim certified the original product as good by His standard. Accept that at least, and then go from there to search for answers to this other question you have. Your OP claims Elohim cannot come in the likelihood of a man, but here is a passage telling you that ain't true at all. Do you accept it or do you not? That is the issue here. undecided

My OP claims God is not a man!

God creating man in His image does not equal God becoming man!
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Kobojunkie: 2:35pm On May 08
AbuTwins:
■ My OP claims God is not a man!
God creating man in His image does not equal God becoming man!
Well, your OP isn't quite accurate at all given that each of the statements referenced points out particular aspects of men that are not found in God. undecided

2. Indeed! Man(Adam) was created as an image of God and not God! undecided

Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 2:59pm On May 08
Kobojunkie:
Well, your OP isn't quite accurate at all given that each of the statements referenced points out particular aspects of men that are not found in God. undecided
Yes, the Title God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change?

2. Indeed! Man(Adam) was created as an image of God and not God! undecided
Yeah as Muslims we believe this but subject to interpretation. The Prophet’s words, “Adam was created in His image” means that Allah created Adam in His image, for He has a face, an eye, a hand, and a foot, and Adam had a face, an eye, a hand, and a foot… but that does not mean that these things are exactly the same. There is some similarity, but it is not exactly the same. There is actually no one like Allah or comparable unto Him!
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by Kobojunkie: 3:04pm On May 08
AbuTwins:
■ Yes, the Title God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change?
■ Yeah as Muslims we believe this but subject to interpretation. The Prophet’s words, “Adam was created in His image” means that Allah created Adam in His image, for He has a face, an eye, a hand, and a foot, and Adam had a face, an eye, a hand, and a foot… but that does not mean that these things are exactly the same. There is some similarity, but it is not exactly the same. There is actually no one like Allah or comparable unto Him!
Well, like I said, your OP is wrong! Elohim is recorded to have created man in His image from the very beginning. Nothing of that fact changed even after Balaam made His very first statement regarding the person of who God is apart from man's lies and ever-changing mind. undecided

2. Well, from this you can see that Elohim has nothing in common with the Muslim Allah! undecided

Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 3:11pm On May 08
Kobojunkie:
Well, like I said, your OP is wrong! Elohim is recorded to have created man in His image from the very beginning. Nothing of that fact changed even after Balaam made His very first statement regarding the person of who God is apart from man's lies and ever-changing mind. undecided

What exactly is wrong here?

God is not a man! Anthropomorphism is false!

Numbers 23:19:
"God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?"

1 Samuel 15:29:
"He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a human being, that he should change his mind."

Hosea 11:9:
"I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a human being—the Holy One among you. I will not come against their cities."

Isaiah 40:18
To whom will you liken God? To what image will you compare Him?

Isaiah 44:6-20
Thus says the LORD, the King and Redeemer of Israel, the LORD of Hosts: “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God but Me. Who then is like Me? Let him say so! Let him declare his case before Me, since I established an ancient people. Let him foretell the things to come, and what is to take place...

Jesus couldn't foretell the hour in Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Isaiah 55:8-9:
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."

Psalm 50:21:
"These things you have done, and I have been silent; you thought that I was one like yourself. But now I rebuke you and lay the charge before you."

Job 9:32-33:
"For he is not a man, as I am, that I might answer him, that we should come to trial together. There is no arbiter between us, who might lay his hand on us both."

So God is not man and can never become man!

God does not change:

Psalm 55:19 -
"God will hear and answer them—Even the one who sits enthroned from of old— Selah. With whom there is no change, And who do not fear God."

Malachi 3:6 -
"For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed."

So when did the Lord Change?

2. Well, from this you can see that Elohim has nothing in common with the Muslim Allah! undecided
You still failed to explain what the image of your Elohim is with respect to man? At least Islam has an understanding!

Even you using Elohim for YHWH is poor! Elohim can also mean lesser beings than God!
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by itzadorable333: 8:07am On May 09
AbuTwins:
God is not a man! Anthropomorphism is false!

Numbers 23:19:
"God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?"

1 Samuel 15:29:
"He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a human being, that he should change his mind."

Hosea 11:9:
"I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a human being—the Holy One among you. I will not come against their cities."

Isaiah 40:18
To whom will you liken God? To what image will you compare Him?

Isaiah 44:6-20
Thus says the LORD, the King and Redeemer of Israel, the LORD of Hosts: “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God but Me. Who then is like Me? Let him say so! Let him declare his case before Me, since I established an ancient people. Let him foretell the things to come, and what is to take place...

Jesus couldn't foretell the hour in Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Isaiah 55:8-9:
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."

Psalm 50:21:
"These things you have done, and I have been silent; you thought that I was one like yourself. But now I rebuke you and lay the charge before you."

Job 9:32-33:
"For he is not a man, as I am, that I might answer him, that we should come to trial together. There is no arbiter between us, who might lay his hand on us both."

So God is not man and can never become man!

God does not change:

Psalm 55:19 -
"God will hear and answer them—Even the one who sits enthroned from of old— Selah. With whom there is no change, And who do not fear God."

Malachi 3:6 -
"For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed."

So when did the Lord Change?

YAHSHUA answered and said unto them, YE DO ERR, NOT KNOWING THE SCRIPTURES, NOR THE POWER OF GOD.
Matthew 22:29
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 9:38am On May 09
itzadorable333:


YAHSHUA answered and said unto them, YE DO ERR, NOT KNOWING THE SCRIPTURES, NOR THE POWER OF GOD.
Matthew 22:29

The context of that verse!

The Sadducees and the Resurrection
Matthew 22: 28
In the resurrection, then, whose wife will she be of the seven? For all of them were married to her.” 29 Jesus answered, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30In the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead, they will be like the angels in heaven.

How is the above related here?

These new age Christians would think we are still dumb! It's 2024 now!
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by itzadorable333: 11:44am On May 09
AbuTwins:


The context of that verse!

The Sadducees and the Resurrection
Matthew 22: 28
In the resurrection, then, whose wife will she be of the seven? For all of them were married to her.” 29 Jesus answered, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. 30In the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage. Instead, they will be like the angels in heaven.

How is the above related here?

These new age Christians would think we are still dumb! It's 2024 now!
'how is the above related here?'... Lol exactly the kind of question that comes from one who experiences incomprehension as a challenge.
My condolences.
No need to expend words with your ilk... You're better left to darkness, unless you cry for Light.
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 12:11pm On May 09
itzadorable333:

'how is the above related here?'... Lol exactly the kind of question that comes from one who experiences incomprehension as a challenge.
My condolences.
No need to expend words with your ilk... You're better left to darkness, unless you cry for Light.

The Sadducees were asking about the resurrection and Jesus replied them!
Is this thread about resurrection?
Which school did you attend?
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by itzadorable333: 3:38pm On May 09
AbuTwins:


The Sadducees were asking about the resurrection and Jesus replied them!
Is this thread about resurrection?
Which school did you attend?
Hehe..keep trying, perhaps...
Re: God Said He Is Not A Man So When Did He Change? by AbuTwins: 7:56pm On May 09
itzadorable333:

Hehe..keep trying, perhaps...
K

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