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Holy Spirit Cares Nothing About Pagan Origin by PCHC(m): 1:57am On May 07
DANIEL 4:8
[Daniel 4:8 NKJV] — But at last Daniel came before me (his name is Belteshazzar, according to the name of my god; in him is the Spirit of the Holy God), and I told the dream before him, saying:

[Daniel 4:8 GWN] — "Finally, Daniel came to me. (He had been renamed Belteshazzar after my god [Bel].) The spirit of the holy gods is in him. I told him the dream:"


The wisemen were brought into the king's presence by a decree or the king's order, which was a place they did not want to be at that time; because standing or sitting there that moment was like sitting on "hot seat" or facing "Tough Examination/Quiz." Yet, Daniel walked into that king's presence voluntarily and boldly without fear of hard riddles which those wisemen couldn't resolve. Daniel was not among the wisemen of Babylon that were brought or arraigned before the king, but he came into the challenge those wisemen secretly wished to walk out from just as David walked into the challenge of facing the Champion Goliath of Gath, which those soldiers of Israel secretly wished to walk out from. Well both David and Daniel had the Spirit of God in them when they walked into their said challenges.

In the Bible verse above, Nebuchadnezzar's hope liteup as soon as he saw Daniel came in, and that was expressed by his use of the word "finally" or "at last" which implies the arrival of someone or something to change the existing but undesirable statusquo.

So long this was Nebuchadnezzar's Testimony, and he was writing to the entire world, he needed to introduce Daniel to the world before continuing along his story path. In Testimony, you testify of God and also testify of a man of God in whom was the Spirit of God. In his concise introduction or announcement of Daniel to the world in his testimony:

*1* Nebuchadnezzar the testifier mentioned the different names that man of God or prophet bears: "Daniel + Belteshazzar." Pointing men to him.

*2* Nebuchadnezzar the testifier mentioned that name "Belteshazzar" which Daniel also had was in honor or in accordance or in agreement with the name of Nebuchadnezzar's gods (Bel - gods of Babylon). But the testifier failed to also mention that name "Daniel" was in accordance, in honor or in agreement with the true God, ("El" - "Elohim" in "Dani+El"wink)

*3* However, Nebuchadnezzar the testifier mentioned that "The Spirit of the Holy God or Holy Gods" was in Daniel. That shows which of the two Gods or two names possessed the said man.

Remember what I said about bearing names of other gods, other religions or cultures, as Christians. If it was today, such names would divide the opinions of different Christian groups: Some Christian groups would abominate the names of Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego and the other name of Daniel, Belteshazzar, saying those names have pagan origin or are names tied to Babylonian idols; just as they abominate Christmas, Easter, Sundays, Christian holidays etc, for the same reason of them having pagan origin or tied to idols. Other Christian groups would argue and insist in the tune of Paul, saying,

[1 Corinthians 8:4-6] — "...we know that an idol is nothing in the world and that there is no God except one. Truly even if indeed there are those called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, as there are many gods and many lords, yet to us there is one God the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we through Him."

Infact, even the name of the same Lord, "Jesus" and the name of "God" are subjects of controversy among Christian groups: Some Christian groups would abominate the names "Jesus" as fake as the letter "J" is not part of the Hebrew alphabet and that we must use His Hebrew name "Yahoshua" or "Yeshua." And some others insist we shouldn't use the name "LORD" but "Yahweh" "JEHOVAH" nor "God" but "Elohim."

The reason we Christians fall into these controversies is because we do not allow the Holy Spirit of God to be the Leader and the Judge as Daniel implies God is the Judge. The Lord Jesus Christ told us that the Holy Spirit Himself will lead us into all truth, taking from the Lord Jesus Christ and showing us. Mark the words, "He (Holy Spirit) shall lead you (us) into all truth:" As it is written,

[John 16:13-14] — "However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide (lead) you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come. He will glorify Me by taking from what is Mine and disclosing it to you."

Controversies among Christians come from Christians trying to lead or guide themselves into truth without the leadership or guidance of the Holy Spirit Himself. Listen,

*1* Truth is very important, but the Spirit of Truth (Holy Spirit) is more important than Truth.

*2* Wisdom is very important, but the Spirit of Wisdom (Holy Spirit) is more important than Wisdom.

The reason those wisemen couldn't go far in this limelight was because they were filled with wisdom without the Spirit of God: Therefore, their wisdom or wiseness failed them, and only the one that had and was led by the Spirit of God prevailed. Even so, the reason those contending for the truth fall into ministering condemnation and controversy in the name of defending the truth is because they have zeal without knowledge or without the Spirit of God guiding/leading them. It took me time to know the difference, and how even the accuser of the brethren (Satan) was using what I thought was speaking or defending the truth to condemn.

Satan is a liar, but Satan also ministers "Truth without grace" which is not the true gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, but a perversion of it. The true gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ is full of "Grace and Truth" born of the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Truth, ministering the Spirit that gives life, not the letter that kills.

Now where are those Christians that uses "Pagan origin" as the basis to condemn things among Christians instead of using the saying or doing of the "Spirit of Christ" to judge or prove all things.

[1 Thessalonians 5:19-22] — "Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophesyings. Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. Abstain from all appearance of evil."

Why do you condemn this or that? "Because this or that has Pagan origin." Then why have you not condemned yourself or condemned all Gentile Christians, seeing every Christian that is not a Jew has Pagan origin? Since you believe that once anything is marked with pagan origin, then it should be condemned or rejected, then the Gentiles should not have had the gospel nor become Christians because Gentiles and their ancestors had pagan origin in uncircumcision. As it is written,

[1 Corinthians 12:2-3:] — "You know that you were Gentiles, carried away to these dumb idols, even as you were led. Why I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost."

You see such controversy among Christian groups was there even during the early church of the first Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ, having "Pagan origin" versus "The Holy Spirit" regarding preaching and baptizing the Gentiles (Believers/Christians). Holy Spirit told Peter in the vision, kill and eat any of the revealed animals he was seeing, but Peter was calling the animals unclean or common or pagan origin. Holy Spirit told him not to look at the origin or history, but look at the sanctification and adoption of the Lord over them.

While he preached the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ to the Gentiles that had pagan origin, the Holy Spirit Himself came upon them that had pagan origin and possessed them that were still bearing names attached to idols or pagan as Belteshazzar (Daniel) was having a name with pagan origin and yet filled with the Holy Spirit.

Peter understood the message, led by the Spirit of God approved their baptism so that those having pagan origin (uncircumcised) are now adopted into the Church. But in "Acts 11" those Christians who abominated pagan origin or uncircumcision entered into controversy against Peter for baptizing and adopting some of us Gentiles them. But as soon as Peter explained to them that the Holy Spirit Himself led the entire process and even entered into the uncircumcised or people with pagan origin, the whole of that controversy died down and entered. Today, those Christians who's ancestors were pagan have adopted "Pagan Origin" as basis to condemn or reject things, but hardly making room for the Holy Spirit of God.

I counsel you to get back to the true gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. We do not deny Pagan origin, but we uphold the Lord's Redemption. As simple as this saying may sound, yet it holds: "Whenever Satan reminds you of your past, remind Satan of his future." True Gospel basically speaks to present and future as basis for redemption/adoption, not some speaking to pagan origin or history as basis for condemnation/rejection.

I said I will discuss on the Spirit of God in dream/vision interpreters & prophets, when the top Bible verse above is "Daniel 4:8." I was led to shift the discussion on that to the next top Bible verse that is 'Daniel 4:9'

Re: Holy Spirit Cares Nothing About Pagan Origin by PCHC(m): 1:58am On May 07
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Re: Holy Spirit Cares Nothing About Pagan Origin by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:04am On May 07
When talking about PAGAN ORIGIN the man God declared father of all those having faith (Abraham) was born, bread and raised by pagans! Romans 4:11; Joshua 24:2

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