Emusan:


You didn't answer my question.

And you don't answer question with question.

My question is rhetorical. In other words after repeatedly expressing how much beneath him humans are, there is no logical reason this so called god would choose to be human, the ability to do so notwithstanding.

Emusan:


You're very correct.

But you didn't answer my question in the post you quoted.



He is the Creator as you affirmed above, so me explaining how it will be possible for A WHOLE CREATOR to be part of His creation means I'm Almighty Myself.

Can you explain how God created the Universe?



Inoson is limited, you can't compare him with God ALMIGHTY.

Do you know the meaning of ALMIGHTY?

Do you understand these two passages at all?

Isaiah 40:18
To whom will you liken God? To what image will you compare Him?

Isaiah 44:6-20
Thus says the LORD, the King and Redeemer of Israel, the LORD of Hosts: “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God but Me. Who then is like Me? Let him say so! Let him declare his case before Me, since I established an ancient people. Let him foretell the things to come, and what is to take place...

22jumpstreet:


Do you understand these two passages at all?

Isaiah 40:18
To whom will you liken God? To what image will you compare Him?

Isaiah 44:6-20
Thus says the LORD, the King and Redeemer of Israel, the LORD of Hosts: “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God but Me. Who then is like Me? Let him say so! Let him declare his case before Me, since I established an ancient people. Let him foretell the things to come, and what is to take place...

Since you couldn't answer my question and you come with these verses.

Well, no where in the verses you quoted that say God can't become HUMAN BEING.

LordReed:
My question is rhetorical.

All the verse verses provided by the OP shows God is placing Himself above HUMAN based on Human characters and not that God is denying that He can't BECOME A HUMAN.

That was the reason I asked you that question.

In other words after repeatedly expressing how much beneath him humans are,

BASED ON THEIR CHARACTER.

there is no logical reason this so called god would choose to be human

There's very strong logical reason for that.

For instance, in one of the verses it says: "God is not a MAN, that HE SHOULD LIE..."
Which mean if God becomes a MAN HE WILL STILL NEVER LIE.

the ability to do so notwithstanding.

This is it!

So which means those verses never say God can NEVER BECOME A HUMAN

It's just OP self interpretation.

Emusan:


All the verse verses provided by the OP shows God is placing Himself above HUMAN based on Human characters and not that God is denying that He can't BECOME A HUMAN.

That was the reason I asked you that question.



BASED ON THEIR CHARACTER.



There's very strong logical reason for that.

For instance, in one of the verses it says: "God is not a MAN, that HE SHOULD LIE..."
Which mean if God becomes a MAN HE WILL STILL NEVER LIE.



This is it!

So which means those verses never say God can NEVER BECOME A HUMAN

It's just OP self interpretation.

What is the logical reason this so called god, after stating repeatedly how beneath him humans are, he would become a human.

Emusan:


Since you couldn't answer my question and you come with these verses.

Well, no where in the verses you quoted that say God can't become HUMAN BEING.

God can not become a man because then, it can be compared to me and you
More over, man is dust and a creation of God....
I still don't get it, how can God become man? He would cease to be almighty since he would be limited by space and time....
It just does not make sense...

LordReed:
What is the logical reason this so called god, after stating repeatedly how beneath him humans are, he would become a human.

One thing you still don't want to admit openly is that those verses never CLAIMED GOD CAN'T BECOME HUMAN against what the OP said.

Well, the logical reason is very simple God only highlighted Human shortcomings in those verses not that HE CAN'T BECOME HUMAN.

22jumpstreet:
God can not become a man because then, it can be compared to me and you

You're not God to know this.

So don't conclude on His behalf.

More over, man is dust and a creation of God....

Sure and no doubt about that.

I still don't get it, how can God become man?

That is why He is Almighty.

If Angels who are part of His creation can take on human form then I don't see the reason why that will be so difficult for God to do.

With God ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.

He would cease to be almighty since he would be limited by space and time....
It just does not make sense...

Because He is Almighty God is the very reason it's easy for Him to be Human and not cease to still be God.

God can appear in all 36 states of Nigeria plus FCT at the same time and still be on His throne in Heaven.

So stop looking at God as just a mere immutable entity.

Based on the discovery of scientists (I assume you believe in God) about how magnificent the Universe is, how can the the entity behind such creation called God can achieve that the way you view Him as mere immutable being?

Only an unimaginable being can achieve that.

Emusan:


One thing you still don't want to admit openly is that those verses never CLAIMED GOD CAN'T BECOME HUMAN against what the OP said.

Well, the logical reason is very simple God only highlighted Human shortcomings in those verses not that HE CAN'T BECOME HUMAN.

The logical reason the supposed god became human was because the god only highlighted Human shortcomings in those verses not that HE CAN'T BECOME HUMAN. How is this a logical reason?

LordReed:
The logical reason the supposed god became human was because the god only highlighted Human shortcomings in those verses not that HE CAN'T BECOME HUMAN. How is this a logical reason?

I'm addressing the OP first!

None of the verses OP quoted show that God can't become HUMAN. Fact!

If you want a logical reason why God can become Human, then it's not about the OP anymore.

LordReed:


The logical reason the supposed god became human was because the god only highlighted Human shortcomings in those verses not that HE CAN'T BECOME HUMAN. How is this a logical reason?

So now you admit that "Not that He can't become himan" which is what Emusan has been telling you, So, case closed!

Emusan:


I'm addressing the OP first!

None of the verses OP quoted show that God can't become HUMAN. Fact!

If you want a logical reason why God can become Human, then it's not about the OP anymore.

He knows. You know Reed lives to make God look evil or a liar. A real satan's prophet and JoeEel won't see this trait.

Emusan:


I'm addressing the OP first!

None of the verses OP quoted show that God can't become HUMAN. Fact!

If you want a logical reason why God can become Human, then it's not about the OP anymore.

LoLz. Whenever you are ready. Bwahahahahaha!

When we call Jesus God, we are not referring to the physical form of Jesus,but the spiritual part of Jesus

God is a Spirit (John 4:24), that's what the Bible says and that's why Jesus would say, He that has seen me has seen the father.

He wasn't referring to His physical self, but the spirit inside Him

When Gabriel told Mary about the birth of Jesus, she asked, how shall this be, them Gabriel said, the power of the most High, meaning the spirit of God shall descend upon thee and that thing that shall be born. Luke 1:35

The woman gave birth to a flesh, but the real thing came from Heaven which was the Spirit of God.

And the Spirit of God is not like something you can restrict, it can be here and it can be there, Jesus said I proceeded out of the Father, Jesus said the Holy Spirit proceeds out of God. 1X1X1=1, because it is the same one thing

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
He sent me here refer to His assignment as human

1 Corinthians 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

MaxInDHouse:


The point missing is name not title.

So JEHOVAH is not a man but that title GOD can be used for any person!

The creator does not become man and will never change! I don't think this affects your position as a Jehovah witness!

Jesus is not God to you guys but an Angel!
So it's an Angel who becomes man in your case!

kingthreat:
This is the most baseless Biblical argument i have ever read.
Some people just go into the scriptures for fault-finding and error seeking.
If that is the job the devil gave you to do, believe me you go see wetin you wan see.

As baseless as the argument is you still can't directly respond to it.

So you agree the Bible can be used to justify anything as you seem fit?

Kobojunkie:
1. Your notorious penchant for quoting verses out of context and ignoring even the intentions of the author aside, the chopped statement you keep quoting is clearly about YHWH whom Balaam referred to in the same context as EL right after identifying Him by name. So, I fail to see why you are fixated on creating an issue where there ought to be none at all. These texts are thousands of years old, mind you!

YHWH is not a man and does not becomes a man! He is omniscient and absolute eternal i.e. do not ever die. His knowledge and power is never restricted at anytime!

2. The Scripture I posted earlier clearly shows that God did not limit His image to a single gender in that situation. He created them both by His own hands. The passage did not say anything about gender being a part of God's Image but that God created them in His image, male and female He created them. So, why would He have a body issue such as the one you seem to be having at this moment?

If God created man in His image what image does God possess?

Tall or short image?
Fat or thin image?
Beautiful or ugly image?
Man or woman's image?
Black race or white race image?

StillDtruth:


Another stupid blasphemous post.

The mere fact that Femi Otedola entered molue and people did not recognize him, does it mean that he is no longer Femi Otedola?

But God is not Femi Otedola. F'emi is a man!
If God said categorically He does not become man when did He change?

AbuTwins:


But God is not Femi Otedola. F'emi is a man!
If God said categorically He does not become man when did He change?

Why are pretend you lack understanding? If you can see that Femi does not change because he entered molue how can you not see that God does not change because He entered this world?

You don't have any valid thing to say but to blaspheme God and God will punish you.

StillDtruth:


Why are pretend you lack understanding? If you can see that Femi does not change because he entered molue how can you not see that God does not change because He entered this world?

You don't have any valid thing to say but to blaspheme God and God will punish you.

God clearly said he is not a man!
God clearly said he can predict the future!
God clearly challenged anyone who claims to be God to predict the future!

Isaiah 44:6-20
Thus says the LORD, the King and Redeemer of Israel, the LORD of Hosts: “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God but Me. Who then is like Me? Let him say so! Let him declare his case before Me, since I established an ancient people. Let him foretell the things to come, and what is to take place...

Jesus failed!
Jesus couldn't foretell the hour in Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

God becoming a man is a change!
When the creator enters the creation, that's a change!

Femi Otedola should enter heaven and come back!

AbuTwins:

God clearly said he is not a man!

So If Femi enters trailer that carries cows it mean that he is now.a cow?

You are not being reasonable at all! See i have retired from having long arguments. Continue your blasphemis, when God Comes, you'll see what you have done to yourself.

StillDtruth:


So If Femi enters trailer that carries cows it mean that he is now.a cow?

Yes, if Femi created the cow in the first place!

A human creates computer system. Can he enter the Operating system he created?

You are not being reasonable at all! See i have retired from having long arguments. Continue your blasphemis, when God Comes, you'll see what you have done to yourself.

Your argument is illogical and irrational!

AbuTwins:


As baseless as the argument is you still can't directly respond to it.

So you agree the Bible can be used to justify anything as you seem fit?

There's nothing I will contribute to make you see otherwise. Energy to waste on that can be expended on something more useful for myself.

kingthreat:


There's nothing I will contribute to make you see otherwise. Energy to waste on that can be expended on something more useful for myself.

Exactly!
Move on!

AbuTwins:
Yes, if Femi created the cow in the first place!

A human creates computer system. Can he enter the Operating system he created?

Your argument is illogical and irrational!

So Mr. Toyoda became a Toyota Camry when he entered it because he created it?

See, how you prove that you are an unreasoble person? Continue your blasphemies, when God Comes, you'll see what you have done to yourself.

StillDtruth:


So Mr. Toyoda became a Toyota Camry when he entered it because he created it?

How did he enter the car system? Does enter mean "use it"?

People can use the computer, they don't enter its OS.
People can use a car, they don't become part of the car system!

See, how you prove that you are an unreasoble person? Continue your blasphemies, when God Comes, you'll see what you have done to yourself.

You are the illogical and unreasonable one here! Chai! See brain!

AbuTwins:
God is not a man! Anthropomorphism is false!

Numbers 23:19:
"God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?"

1 Samuel 15:29:
"He who is the Glory of Israel does not lie or change his mind; for he is not a human being, that he should change his mind."

Hosea 11:9:
"I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a human being—the Holy One among you. I will not come against their cities."

Isaiah 40:18
To whom will you liken God? To what image will you compare Him?

Isaiah 44:6-20
Thus says the LORD, the King and Redeemer of Israel, the LORD of Hosts: “I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God but Me. Who then is like Me? Let him say so! Let him declare his case before Me, since I established an ancient people. Let him foretell the things to come, and what is to take place...

Jesus couldn't foretell the hour in Matthew 24:36, Mark 13:32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Isaiah 55:8-9:
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."

Psalm 50:21:
"These things you have done, and I have been silent; you thought that I was one like yourself. But now I rebuke you and lay the charge before you."

Job 9:32-33:
"For he is not a man, as I am, that I might answer him, that we should come to trial together. There is no arbiter between us, who might lay his hand on us both."

So God is not man and can never become man!

God does not change:

Psalm 55:19 -
"God will hear and answer them—Even the one who sits enthroned from of old— Selah. With whom there is no change, And who do not fear God."

Malachi 3:6 -
"For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed."

So when did the Lord Change?

God is not a man (the corrupt sinful man) that he should lie.
That does not mean he cannot be a man.

God does not change in the sense that his nature is unchangeable ( does not improve nor degrade in essence)

When God became man his divine essence didn't change.

StillDtruth:


See now how you have changed it from "entering" to "entering the system" and to "using it" and you think you are reasonable and logical as you keep changing and chaninging your arguments becuase you see you cannot validly answer?

Nothing was changed. It's your IQ that couldn't encompass simple logic. Using an item is different from being in an item!

Told you before, you are just here proving muslims are mad devils here to blaspheme God as the bible foretold, exactly how the other muslims before you have played out.

The next time you abuse na to just report you!

God will punish you people greatly both here an in death.

You shall not judge for as you judge....

I aint gat time for forever arguments.
Continue sinning, when God Comes, you'll see what you have done to yourself.

Me self no get time! Where is the sin? And where is God coming?

Steep:
God is not a man (the corrupt sinful man) that he should lie.

Where did God add that one you added in bracket?

That does not mean he cannot be a man.

Of course God said he is never a man many times!

God does not change in the sense that his nature is unchangeable ( does not improve nor degrade in essence)

Human nature is different from God's! Humans depend on food for growth! God becoming man will make him dependent on food for growth! He will also become dependent on humans for protection! Hence Jesus's parent had to run away with him to protect your so-called God!

When God became man his divine essence didn't change.

Na lie. Everything has changed!