Not sure where to post this. Say you have a 16 GB flash drive. Theoretically or practically, would it weigh more when loaded with data than when the storage is empty?

...No weight difference

owing to gravitational anomalies, the flashdrive might experience a slight loss or gain in weight depending on the actual gravity of the environment.

The question is clueles and lacks logic reasoning. Its like asking if u can weigh a dead body and a living body with a soul.

Mckandre:
The question is clueles and lacks logic reasoning. Its like asking if u can weigh a dead body and a living body with a soul.

You're clearly not thinking scientifically about this. Of course, if the soul is thought of as energy, then a body with a soul would have more mass than a soulless body and would thus weigh more.
Think E=mc². Mass-energy equivalence.

Photons are massless.
Slight change in mass

destino24:
Photons are massless.
No change in mass

Do you regard the stored data as photons?

destino24:
Photons are massless.
No change in mass

Do you regard the stored data as photons?

McSterling:
Do you regard the stored data as photons?

Em... Ok... Not photons.

There will be a slight change in mass, but the difference in weight would be so small and nominal

Justycxx:
owing to gravitational anomalies, the flashdrive might experience a slight loss or gain in weight depending on the actual gravity of the environment.

Expatiate please.

destino24:


Em... Ok... Not photons.

There will be a slight change in mass, but the difference in weight would be so small and nominal

Yeah. I think about it this way: Stored data leads to increase in energy, which is actually an increase in mass according to Einstein's equation (E=mc²). Thus the weight increases, though negligibly. So small would be this change in weight that even the most sensitive balances will not detect it.

McSterling:
Yeah. I think about it this way: Stored data leads to increase in energy, which is actually an increase in mass according to Einstein's equation (E=mc²). Thus the weight increases, though negligibly. So small would be this change in weight that even the most sensitive balances will not detect it.

Yeah, exactly. Imagine dividing a defined amount of electrical energy by (3 x 10 ^ 8 ) ^ 2.

The result would be so so small.

McSterling:
You're clearly not thinking scientifically about this. Of course, if the soul is thought of as energy, then a body with a soul would have more mass than a soulless body and would thus weigh more.
Think E=mc². Mass-energy equivalence.

I disagree,besides I was just giving an instance. tellme, are u insinuating that OP is relatively correct by that question?

Mckandre:
I disagree,besides I was just giving an instance. tellme, are u insinuating that OP is relatively correct by that question?

I didn't make any statement in the op. I just asked a question. What do you disagree on? That the soul can be thought of as energy or that increase in energy is equivalent to increase in mass?

If I have an empty notebook and then I write in all the pages, does it make it any lighter or heavier?

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tobbie247:
If I have an empty notebook and then I write in all the pages, does it make it any lighter or heavier?

Yes, in theory it does make it heavier, albeit negligibly. Do you know physics?

Sempumping:
...No weight difference

Seems that way to me as well.

It would weigh more with data but the added weight would be neglible which is why one doesn't feel the difference.

McSterling:
Yes, in theory it does make it heavier, albeit negligibly. Do you know physics?

Yes I know physics. But then, it's obviously negligible. Approximating to couple of decimal place will give equal value.

tobbie247:
If I have an empty notebook and then I write in all the pages, does it make it any lighter or heavier?

it does make it heavier but at a very miniscule level that you cannot notice it

tobbie247:


Yes I know physics. But then, it's obviously negligible. Approximating to couple of decimal place will give equal value.

In quantum physics you're not permitted to approximate. Quantum change no matter how negligible in the macro world is still change albeit.

UyiIredia:
It would weigh more with data but the added weight would be neglible which is why one doesn't feel the difference.

I think so too. The difference is only at the quantum level.

johnydon22:


it does make it heavier but at a very miniscule level that you cannot notice it

I was hoping you'd write an epistle. Come on, write an epistle.

McSterling:
I was hoping you'd write an epistle. Come on, write an epistle.

hahahahaha common bro you lot already have done a good job answering the thread, sometimes an epistle is not needed.

a few words most times are more powerful than a thousand!!!

McSterling:
I think so too. The difference is only at the quantum level.

Just like we are too tiny to notice the curvature of the earth surfaces (so we imagine it as flat while standing on it) so too are we too big to notice the changes at a micro level.

If you tap the wall beside you right now slightly, there MUST and IS a slight vibration induced by that slight tap of your finger but you are too big to notice such miniscule change.

But that doesn't mean there wasn't any Change there was and no approximations can erase that in actuality..

johnydon22:


hahahahaha common bro you lot already have done a good job answering the thread, sometimes an epistle is not needed.

a few words most times are more powerful than a thousand!!!

Hehehe...how you dey? Haven't been seeing much of you lately.

johnydon22:


Just like we are too tiny to notice the curvature of the earth surfaces (so we imagine it as flat while standing on it) so too are we too big to notice the changes at a micro level.

If you tap the wall beside you right now slightly, there MUST and IS a slight vibration induced by that slight tap of your finger but you are too big to notice such miniscule change.

But that doesn't mean there wasn't any Change there was and no approximations can erase that in actuality..

Yeah, a smaller organism like an ant would notice that change. Brian Greene once pointed that when we observe a thread, we see a seeming one dimension, whereas an ant can navigate the 3 dimensions of that thread. Just like rats hear ultrasonic sounds.

McSterling:
Hehehe...how you dey? Haven't been seeing much of you lately.

Bro i have been busy ooo. Na hustling deh game now !!!

McSterling:
Yeah, a smaller organism like an ant would notice that change. Brian Greene once pointed that when we observe a thread, we see a seeming one dimension, whereas an ant can navigate the 3 dimensions of that thread. Just like rats hear ultrasonic sounds.

Precisely!!!

johnydon22:


it does make it heavier but at a very miniscule level that you cannot notice it

Yes I know. I'm talking from mere human perception, not physics.

Thanks.

McSterling:
In quantum physics you're not permitted to approximate. Quantum change no matter how negligible in the macro world is still change albeit.

So after calculating, who e hep?