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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 3:02am On May 16
PDPGuy:
The 2nd Presidential debate will hold on September 10

I hope they put each in "covid" glass window - no hovering around. Stand or sit in your corner and answer the questions asked.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:03am On May 16
armyofone:


He should have participated in all the GOP debates. Since he didn't, maybe he feels this is the chance he has to let people outside his base hear about his policy.


his rallies are doing that

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 2:01pm On May 16
Excellent Article. Very good read. That the NYtimes is reporting this is problematic for Biden. I'm sure it's represented in the Polling. I know a lot of disaffected people due the what's going on. I think in the end when the decision is Biden vs. Trump, people will come home. Trump would be so much worse on the issue. But, Democrats expect Biden to speak with a moral clarity and he has to find that voice.

Raumdeuter, why don't you come and condemn all this Israeli Settler terrorism, seemingly supported by the State of Israel this article speaks about.

The Unpunished: How Extremists Took Over Israel
After 50 years of failure to stop violence and terrorism against Palestinians by Jewish ultranationalists, lawlessness has become the law.

<Gift Link> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/magazine/israel-west-bank-settler-violence-impunity.html?unlocked_article_code=1.sU0.B4Uq.iI5r0Url3pwv&smid=url-share

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 6:10pm On May 16
PDPGuy:
The 2nd Presidential debate will hold on September 10

In a trial, how much weight is given to the testimony of a person convicted to have lied under oath before?

That is the angle I see Trumps defence towing with Michael Cohen

With Stormy they already have her on record saying she hates him and will want him to go to jail

Which is why this hush money trial is just a waste of time. IMO it has made a conviction almost impossible and opened room for an appeal even before verdict

The real cases that could have carried weight are not going to be heard before election

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:57pm On May 16
raumdeuter:


In a trial, how much weight is given to the testimony of a person convicted to have lied under oath before?

That is the angle I see Trumps defence towing with Michael Cohen

With Stormy they already have her on record saying she hates him and will want him to go to jail

Which is why this hush money trial is just a waste of time. IMO it has made a conviction almost impossible and opened room for an appeal even before verdict

The real cases that could have carried weight are not going to be heard before election

the same is true for Cohen
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 7:44pm On May 16
raumdeuter:


In a trial, how much weight is given to the testimony of a person convicted to have lied under oath before?

That is the angle I see Trumps defence towing with Michael Cohen

With Stormy they already have her on record saying she hates him and will want him to go to jail

Which is why this hush money trial is just a waste of time. IMO it has made a conviction almost impossible and opened room for an appeal even before verdict

The real cases that could have carried weight are not going to be heard before election
Not much weight is given to the testimony of such a person, especially when opposing counsel effectively impeaches that witness’s character via cross-examination.

Attorney Todd Blanche (what a name!) has done a decent job in portraying Cohen as an untrustworthy witness by getting Cohen to admit, during cross exam, that he had severally lied to the Feds
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 8:03pm On May 16
PDPGuy:

Not much weight is given to the testimony of such a person, especially when opposing counsel effectively impeaches that witness’s character via cross-examination.

Attorney Todd Blanche (what a name!) has done a decent job in portraying Cohen as an untrustworthy witness by getting Cohen to admit, during cross exam, that he had severally lied to the Feds

Lesson learnt- don't lie to protect your boss or anyone...no matter what.
He worship at the altar of money, did everything to protect his boss. Too bad he is learning the hard way. Hope we all learnt something.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 8:14pm On May 16
bemeruca:


the same is true for Cohen

PDPGuy:
Not much weight is given to the testimony of such a person, especially when opposing counsel effectively impeaches that witness’s character via cross-examination.
Attorney Todd Blanche (what a name!) has done a decent job in portraying Cohen as an untrustworthy witness by getting Cohen to admit, during cross exam, that he had severally lied to the Feds

Especially when Cohen has started clearly in private and public that he wants Trump to go to jail. He has been known to lie before under oath

armyofone:


Lesson learnt- don't lie to protect your boss or anyone...no matter what.
He worship at the altar of money, did everything to protect his boss. Too bad he is learning the hard way. Hope we all learnt something.

So how are we sure he is telling the truth now
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:46pm On May 16
ijebosb:
Excellent Article. Very good read. That the NYtimes is reporting this is problematic for Biden. I'm sure it's represented in the Polling. I know a lot of disaffected people due the what's going on. I think in the end when the decision is Biden vs. Trump, people will come home. Trump would be so much worse on the issue. But, Democrats expect Biden to speak with a moral clarity and he has to find that voice.

Raumdeuter, why don't you come and condemn all this Israeli Settler terrorism, seemingly supported by the State of Israel this article speaks about.

The Unpunished: How Extremists Took Over Israel
After 50 years of failure to stop violence and terrorism against Palestinians by Jewish ultranationalists, lawlessness has become the law.

<Gift Link> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/16/magazine/israel-west-bank-settler-violence-impunity.html?unlocked_article_code=1.sU0.B4Uq.iI5r0Url3pwv&smid=url-share

In the North Western part of Israel, the Golan heights over 100,000 Israelites have been displaced because Hesbolla ( Party of god) has been raining missiles and rockets every day.
That dont concern you , whats important is the ultra right wing unleashing their angst on Palestinians who want all jews dead.
Anyway you don't know that because your sources are biased
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:57pm On May 16
raumdeuter:




Especially when Cohen has started clearly in private and public that he wants Trump to go to jail. He has been known to lie before under oath



So how are we sure he is telling the truth now

Days before his testimony, he is wearing and selling a t-shirt showing Trump behind bars.
He wrote a book called Revenge.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 9:07pm On May 16
armyofone:


Lesson learnt- don't lie to protect your boss or anyone...no matter what.
He worship at the altar of money, did everything to protect his boss. Too bad he is learning the hard way. Hope we all learnt something.

He secretly records his boss, his friend Chris Cuomo so he can blackmail them in the future. He is a fixer, all that went on was his idea. He was lying to save his ass.

A man working for Trump also threatened to go out with a lie that Trump has an illegitimate child, they paid that guy to hush even if they knew he was lying, which makes me question if Trump slept with Stormy Daniels.

Her stories are lies that change all the time.

From the AP

One of lawyer Michael Cohen’s surreptitiously recorded tapes was of a conversation with a CNN reporter in which he said paying off Stormy Daniels was an act he did “on my own,” the Wall Street Journal reported.

Citing “people familiar with the matter,” the newspaper said Mr. Cohen, President Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, recorded a nearly two-hour conversation with CNN anchorman Chris Cuomo.

In the conversation with Mr. Cuomo, Mr. Cohen discusses the $130,000 paid to Ms. Daniels, the porn actress whose real name is Stephanie Clifford and who claimed to have had an affair a decade ago with the future president.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:26pm On May 16
I remember when the front pages had topics like criminal trump celebrating the Dow Jones passing 25k in his term, but now in President Biden, it has clocked 40,000. And this is why President Bidens chances of winning is second to none. Many retirement savings saved, and social-cultural benefits from the stock market bull run.

Not that Presidents have veto rights over the control of the economy, but because criminal trump made it political, what do you say deranged maga cultists, basilico loco and co?

Isn't your demented rapist overlord a liar and deceiver when he said the economy will crash if Biden is President?

Never take a maga cultist seriously.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:32pm On May 16
bemeruca:


Days before his testimony, he is wearing and selling a t-shirt showing trump behind bars.
He wrote a book called revenge.

The Jury will never consider this for cause because it's just stupid as shit, and on par with deranged maga takes. Sure, he had every right to be angry. He was cut short by criminal trump after he put out his neck for him. And even weisselberg had confirmed that everything runs through the criminal. Look at the financial documents you dumb bucket headed ghouls and follow the money.
All your bitching and wailing sucks.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:34pm On May 16
bemeruca:


He secretly records his boss, his friend Chris Cuomo so he can blackmail them in the future. He is a fixer, all that went on was his idea. He was lying to save his ass.

A man working for Trump also threatened to go out with a lie that Trump has an illegitimate child, they paid that guy to hush even if they knew he was lying, which makes me question if Trump slept with Stormy Daniels.

Her stories are lies that change all the time.

From the AP

How does that change the fact criminal trump wanted to sleep with Stormy Daniels because she reminded him of his daughter Ivanka?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:44pm On May 16
Only the dumbest of the maga cultists will suspend their brain to the fact that criminal trump can do without the media. For years and years, he has done schemes to plant positive stories, even at times he went bankrupt, multiple times. There were times he couldn't afford press pass that he had to call to radio shows himself as john barron lol

What Cohen did was standard. But can criminal trump lawyers, who themselves employ same protection techniques, say what Cohen did in taping was a crime? No they can't, but only the dumbest maga cultists will ramble on.

And looking at the lineup, our suspicions were right about these three.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 11:58pm On May 16

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 12:25am On May 17
Things did not go well for Bragg and Cohen today. Too bad they are in new York where a jury can find trump guilty for sneezing.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:53am On May 17
Cohen lies about the source of money he used he paid to Stormy.
He took a home loan in 2015 to boost his taxi busoness, yet he makes it appear he took the loan just to pay Stormy.
In 2017 he was paid a retainer though Trump's children never engaged him at all.
Bragg knows this because these are established facts from his criminal trial.
Bragg has not named the crime,in the meantime every negative thing about Trump is being testified to.


You applied for a (fraudulent) $500,000 HELOC loan in December 2015 to help cover your failing taxi medallions in either Chicago or New York, or both. The (fraudulent) HELOC loan was approved in April 2016. The money you paid Ms. Daniels in October 2016 came from that (fraudulent) HELOC loan

Another thing in the transcript - that amount $420,000 was comprised of (130,000+50,000)x2 +60,000.

The $50,000, Cohen said was for a website provider from 2015. Cohen claimed the original bill was for $50,000, but he got the service provider to settle for less than that amount. He testified that he charged Trump the full amount because Trump never paid him back for that bill. Cohen also said that he pocketed the difference between what the service provider got and the $50,000 total because he thought he deserved it.



Website. Cohen had created a Trump website back in 2011 . He swindled Trump
"""""Star witness. Judge is overruling most questions to him.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 4:32am On May 17
basilico:
Cohen lies about the source of money he used he paid to Stormy.
He took a home loan in 2015 to boost his taxi busoness, yet he makes it appear he took the loan just to pay Stormy.
In 2017 he was paid a retainer though Trump's children never engaged him at all.
Bragg knows this because these are established facts from his criminal trial.
Bragg has not named the crime,in the meantime every negative thing about Trump is being testified to.


You applied for a (fraudulent) $500,000 HELOC loan in December 2015 to help cover your failing taxi medallions in either Chicago or New York, or both. The (fraudulent) HELOC loan was approved in April 2016. The money you paid Ms. Daniels in October 2016 came from that (fraudulent) HELOC loan

Another thing in the transcript - that amount $420,000 was comprised of (130,000+50,000)x2 +60,000.

The $50,000, Cohen said was for a website provider from 2015. Cohen claimed the original bill was for $50,000, but he got the service provider to settle for less than that amount. He testified that he charged Trump the full amount because Trump never paid him back for that bill. Cohen also said that he pocketed the difference between what the service provider got and the $50,000 total because he thought he deserved it.



Website. Cohen had created a Trump website back in 2011 . He swindled Trump
"""""Star witness. Judge is overruling most questions to him.


He is under oath. Suddenly, our cretin ijebosb is not talking about the case again. It's hard to spin this one.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:34am On May 17
Think of all the malicious propaganda campaigns that would have surely sunk a less resilient individual. After Trump’s 2016 victory, Hollywood celebrities desperately urged the Electoral College to disregard the results and install Hillary Clinton as president. The pop culture industry cynically created the “Me Too” movement as a vehicle for driving him from office. The Intelligence Community illegally spied on his campaign, blamed his victory on Russian social media trolls, and pushed the lie that he worked for Putin. The Mueller Inquisition spent two years covering up the FBI’s anti-Trump activities, while doing everything it could to ensnare the president in perjury and obstruction traps. Members of the military and National Security Council worked with Congress to turn a Biden-Ukraine bribery scandal into a Trump impeachment. The Department of (in)Justice and too many unethical judges transformed the J6 election integrity
into an oportunity to destroy lives and take political hostages. Big-money Democrats have bankrolled countless civil suits against Trump in an effort to bankrupt his entire family. Corrupt state and federal prosecutors seek to use Democrat juries to convict him on spurious charges and imprison him for life. Corporate news hosts routinely defame Trump as racist. Well known historians nonsensically claim that he is an aspiring dictator. And despite four years of inflation, foreign invasion, and global chaos during Biden’s Oval Office occupation, hyperventilating foreign policy “experts” continue to drum up fear that a 2024 Trump victory will trigger economic collapse and WWIII.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 6:58am On May 17
Trump paying Stormy to keep quiet. Bragg is turning this into a crime of not letting the public know before elections that Stormy had "banged" Trump missionary style. That's election interference to liberals, which is being made a crime of not airing your dirty laundry in public.

Joe Biden was interviewed by Robert Hurr over his theft of top secret materials and careless storage. He lied that its Hurr who asked him about his son's death. Hurr denied that and in congressional testimony stated it was Joe Biden who brought it up, with JB forgetting the year his son died

Why it matters. Garland is being held in contempt of Congress for he has refused to produce the audio recording of the interview to congressional committee. The transcript is out in the public
Here - October 9 And
Here - October 10
JB has asserted executive privellege over the tape. Why would he do that? Must be the fear of the public hearing him for the first time when his speech is not choreographed. He comes out as senile. Hurr did not charge him because he found him a doodling mentally incapacitated old geezer who would not even understand he is on trial. Sarcastically he is the most powerful man in the world.He is hiding his demented status from the public just before the most consequential election in history.
Accordingly as per Bragg standard The public should know everything about a candidate. In the classified docs case Joe Biden is as guilty as sin itself. He had neither the authority to declassify nor possess classified documents , he stole from a SCIF read only no take away top secret documents, Then stored them haphazardly in nine locations where enemies of the state could easily access them. For documents at UPenn , they deleted the logs of all visitors to his openly accessible office. His UPenn institute was funded by foreign countries ie China. It makes sense why the visitors logs were deleted.
But but but... Orange man bad

On the other hand Executive Privellege was trashed for Mark Meadows,

CNN - A federal judge (Beryl Howell) has ordered several former Donald Trump aides, including Mark Meadows, to testify before a grand jury as part of the criminal investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election, rejecting the former president’s claims of executive privilege, multiple sources confirmed to CNN.....including former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe, former national security adviser Robert O’Brien and former Department of Homeland Security official Ken Cuccinelli


Peter Navarro was forced to report to jail for acting on Trump executive privellege not to appear before J6 Pelosi sham committee, before his 4 month jail sentence appeal is heard.
Two tiered justice system.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:11am On May 17
bemeruca:


He is under oath. Suddenly, our cretin ijebosb is not talking about the case again. It's hard to spin this one.

Cohen was dog walked through his earlier testimony by defense.
CNN was aghast.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cohen-destroyed-trump-lawyers-dog-walk-star-witness-through-lie-after-lie-cnn-pundits

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:12am On May 17
basilico:


Cohen was dog walked through his earlier testimony by defense.
CNN was aghast.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cohen-destroyed-trump-lawyers-dog-walk-star-witness-through-lie-after-lie-cnn-pundits

They are no done with him.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:44am On May 17
bemeruca:


They are no done with him.

In keeping up with this trial, I wonder what liberals think.
This case is about preventing Trump from winning let alone participate in an election.
Someone somewhere thinks they they can override the will of 75 million Trump voters just because they can.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 12:45pm On May 17
basilico:


In keeping up with this trial, I wonder what liberals think.
This case is about preventing Trump from winning let alone participate in an election.
Someone somewhere thinks they they can override the will of 75 million Trump voters just because they can.

Think about this. The two people in this thread so consumed by this, writing books about is as if they have nothing else going on in their lives, have no real connection to the US. What type of nuttery does it take to be so invested in a country that you have 0 connection with that you get into the bowels of any issue while posting propaganda. It must be insanely time consuming. It's weird.

I wake up in the Morning, turn on Morning Joe while I'm on my bike to get abreast of US news. Do you wake up and turn on US news while ur sitting in Nigeria and why? How does that even work?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 12:56pm On May 17
Trump has been doing business all his life. At the time he won, he indicated that he had over 500 LLCs quite normal for a billionaire businessman him.

Joe Biden has no known business apart from investments. His family hsd hundreds of bank accounts anf LLCs.
Senator Menendez is on trial for bribery stemming from his position at the Senate Foreign Committee. Was caught red handed with gold bullions, cash, jewellery etc.
Joe Biden has served as chair of Foreign Relations Committee for donkeys years.Also served as Obama's pointman in Ukraine among other countries. Grifter.
With Trump they had to go through his business records with a microscope looking for a crime, any crime whatsoever.
More Biden family accounts details discovered by Comer committee.
Presidential debate will really take place?

@amuse
@amuse
QUESTION: If your family is not engaged in business endeavours but instead dedicated their lives to public service, is it normal to have 233 bank accounts for 175 LLCs? Asking for a friend and a nation...

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 1:18pm On May 17
ijebosb:


Think about this. The two people in this thread so consumed by this, writing books about is as if they have nothing else going on in their lives, have no real connection to the US. What type of nuttery does it take to be so invested in a country that you have 0 connection with that you get into the bowels of any issue while posting propaganda. It must be insanely time consuming. It's weird.

I wake up in the Morning, turn on Morning Joe while I'm on my bike to get abreast of US news. Do you wake up and turn on US news while ur sitting in Nigeria and why? How does that even work?

Is morning joe the guy who was a politician and some heathy athletlic lady died suddenly in his office, hit her head on his desk?

Of course you have not noticed I been silent for a few days the last few weeks.
Bemeruca, e pains you he drives a Range Rover in America.
You need help.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 1:42pm On May 17
basilico:


Is morning joe the guy who was a politician and some heathy athletee of a woman died in his office, hit her head on his desk?

Of course you have not noticed I been silent for a few days the last few weeks.
Bemeruca, e pains you he drives a Range Rover in America.
You need help.

There is sufficient information in this thread that he neither lives in the US nor owns the car he's taking pictures with.
The question is why are you repeating his lie? And then tomorrow, you will come here proclaiming you don't lie.
At some point the lies and BS end right?

But, it's a serious question. Why are you invested and thus invest copious amounts of your time in a country you don't live, haven't visited and has no direct connection? It's not as if you just care about politics. Because you don't post about Nigerian politics or news. Yet, that's the country you live. But, I can count on you to post some deep in the weeds conspiracy about the US mailing system rigging the election for Trump. It's weird innit? And you're talking about someone needing help?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 2:16pm On May 17
ijebosb:


There is sufficient information in this thread that he neither lives in the US nor owns the car he's taking pictures with.
The question is why are you repeating his lie? And then tomorrow, you will come here proclaiming you don't lie.
At some point the lies and BS end right?

But, it's a serious question. Why are you invested and thus invest copious amounts of your time in a country you don't live, haven't visited and has no direct connection? It's not as if you just care about politics. Because you don't post about Nigerian politics or news. Yet, that's the country you live. But, I can count on you to post some deep in the weeds conspiracy about the US mailing system rigging the election for Trump. It's weird innit? And you're talking about someone needing help?

He lives there,he has no reason to lie.The problem is that you find it difficult to imagine a company can headhunt and hire a foreigner.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:26pm On May 17
basilico:


He lives there,he has no reason to lie.The problem is that you find it difficult to imagine a company can headhunt and hire a foreigner.


don't waste your time with that idiot, He was trying so hard and no one was engaging or responding to his post. Ijebosb is a cretin so treat him as such.
He is going to remain jealous till the kingdom comes.

let the loser be the loser.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 3:32pm On May 17
basilico:


He lives there,he has no reason to lie.The problem is that you find it difficult to imagine a company can headhunt and hire a foreigner.


Yeah, what city or even state?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:41pm On May 17
ijebosb:


Yeah, what city or even state?

I hope mods dont ban for outing Bemeruca.
He is in the state where Biden family's 138 of the 175 LLCs that receive money from Ukraine, China and Russia are incorporated.😅😅

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