jesusjnr2020:
You're still beating about the bush trying to dodge the glaring fault with your belief. If you believe it's necessary for a sinner to confess with their mouths to be saved, it means your god's salvation was not provided for all man but only those with mouths.

My God's salvation is for all men, so even those without mouths can be saved, because it doesn't require confession with their mouths to be saved as my God looks at the hearts of man not their mouths.

A mortal man made a erroneous saying inspired of his flesh and the spiritually blind automatically take it to be the Word of God, just because it's in the Bible even though it clearly contradicts the Character and Will of God for all men. Even when they're corrected, they keep arguing blindly instead of taking correction. Continue taking that the error of man as the Word of God and still expect God to back you up.

With the mouth confession is made unto salvation Roman 10 : 10.
Let me make my position very clear to you. I have no power or knowledge to add or remove any word from the Bible.
Whatever the Bible says, I believe. God forbids I cherry pick his words.

sonnie10:

With the mouth confession is made unto salvation Roman 10 : 10.
Let me make my position very clear to you. I have no power or knowledge to add or remove any word from the Bible.
Whatever the Bible says, I believe. God forbids I cherry pick his words.

In otherwords, your god made salvation available to only those with mouths to confess. My God made salvation available to all men - those with and without mouths.

God forbid that I would blasphemously attribute a glaring error inspired by the flesh of a man to Him.

Greatheight:



In as much you have good intentions about this writeup, I strongly believe you're missing some parts. Let's read the Bible passge again without cutting off a few verses below:

1 Samuel 1:13-18 KJV
Now Hannah, she spake in her heart; only her lips moved, but her voice was not heard: therefore Eli thought she had been drunken. [14] And Eli said unto her, How long wilt thou be drunken? put away thy wine from thee. [15] And Hannah answered and said, No, my lord, I am a woman of a sorrowful spirit: I have drunk neither wine nor strong drink, but have poured out my soul before the Lord. [16] Count not thine handmaid for a daughter of Belial: for out of the abundance of my complaint and grief have I spoken hitherto. [17] Then Eli answered and said, Go in peace: and the God of Israel grant thee thy petition that thou hast asked of him. [18] And she said, Let thine handmaid find grace in thy sight. So the woman went her way, and did eat, and her countenance was no more sad.

Remember, as God's children we can't rule out the offices of genuine prophets and pastors. My humble opinion...

2 chronicles 20:20
Matthew 10:41

The omission was actually deliberate because it's clear that whatever Eli said was absolutely inconsequential in the final result of Hannah's prayer.

If you go back to the story you'd see that Hannah's barrenness was consequent upon God blocking her womb. That's the same way He blocked the womb of Sarah, Rebekah, Rachel, Elizabeth, and none of them needed any "Eli" to say anything for God to unblock their wombs. Moreover they usually give birth to special and prophetic children to show why God restricted them from giving birth in the first place.

So nothing concerns Eli in this matter but a matter between Hannah and her God who blocked for the obvious purpose of giving her a prophetic child that He would use for His own glory and to replace the same Eli as judge of Israel. You can see the vow she made to give God the child to use for His service, whicj aligned with God's purpose for blocking her womb.

So although such offices are could also be significant but not in Hannah's case.

jesusjnr2020:
In otherwords, your god made salvation available to only those with mouths to confess. My God made salvation available to all men - those with and without mouths.

God forbid that I would blasphemously attribute a glaring error inspired by the flesh of a man to Him.

Rev 18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

With the picture you posted, You don’t even know where your mouth is let alone have the ability of disproving the word of God

sonnie10:


Rev 18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

With the picture you posted, You don’t even know where your mouth is let alone have the ability of disproving the word of God

Spiritual blindness won't let you see clearly even though the verse you quoted clearly said, "the prophecy of this scroll" not the Bible as you want it to be, but continue deceiving yourself that you can see.

Btw, the pictures I posted were those of guy literally born mouthless, hence had never spoken a word since birth, you can search the internet about him to cure your ignorance. Even BBC did a story about him. Those are the kind of people that your selective god left out of his plan of salvation for mankind. Thank God my God is not that discriminatory so the mouthless guy can also be saved as everyone else despite his physical handicap.

jesusjnr2020:
Spiritual blindness won't let you see clearly even though the verse you quoted clearly said, "the prophecy of this scroll" not the Bible as you want it to be, but continue deceiving yourself that you can see.

Btw, the pictures I posted were those of guy literally born mouthless, hence had never spoken a word since birth, you can search the internet about him to cure your ignorance. Even BBC did a story about him. Those are the kind of people that your selective god left out of his plan of salvation for mankind. Thank God my God is not that discriminatory so the mouthless guy can also be saved as everyone else despite his physical handicap.

I am sure you are using a scroll to type now. Caveman!
Your god is limited by words and unable to understand other forms of verbal expressions
.

sonnie10:

I am sure you are using a scroll to type now. Caveman!
Your god is limited by words and unable to understand other forms of verbal expressions
.

I am not my God who is perfect and inerrant, but only human so it's understandable that I could have some limitations and make mistakes. But your god has human limitations as myself hence why he can't hear the voice of a mouthless sinner who sincerely wants to come to repentance. Your god must be also human then and no different from myself.

jesusjnr2020:
I am not my God who is perfect and inerrant, but only human so it's understandable that I could have some limitations and make mistakes. But your god has human limitations as myself hence why he can't hear the voice of a mouthless sinner who sincerely wants to come to repentance. Your god must be also human then and no different from myself.

I am sure you have your teeth and tongue on your lips and not in your mouth.
How else do you justify calling the orifice (opening) , mouth?

sonnie10:

I am sure you have your teeth and tongue on your lips and not in your mouth.
How else do you justify calling the orifice (opening) , mouth?

Is that your excuse for your god's selective salvation for those with mouth alone? All that is inconsequential to my God, because He provided salvation for everyone, including those without mouths.

jesusjnr2020:
Is that your excuse for your god's selective salvation for those with mouth alone? All that is inconsequential to my God, because He provided salvation for everyone, including those without mouths.

When everyone speak through their God given mouth, no matter the deformity or disability of the bodily member, God listens, answers their prayers and they are saved.
There is no discrimination in that. Roman 2 vs 11. God does not show partiality. It is not about who we are but who we become in Christ Jesus.

sonnie10:

When everyone speak through their God given mouth, no matter the deformity or disability of the bodily member, God listens, answers their prayers and they are saved.
There is no discrimination in that. Roman 2 vs 11. God does not show partiality. It is not about who we are but who we become in Christ Jesus.

The fact you're still not getting is that not everyone has a mouth to speak or can speak with their mouth, so what hopes lies for them with your god whose salvation cannot be attained without confession of mouth?

jesusjnr2020:
The fact you're still not getting is that not everyone has a mouth to speak or can speak with their mouth, so what hopes lies for them with your god whose salvation cannot be attained without confession of mouth?

The fact that you still don’t know where the mouth starts and ends baffles me.

sonnie10:

The fact that you still don’t know where the mouth starts and ends baffles me.

The fact your god doesn't know that not all men have mouths should baffle you more.

jesusjnr2020:
The fact your god doesn't know that not all men have mouths should baffle you more.

All men have mouth. Period . Just that your are half smart. Trying to cherry pick what you consider to constitute the mouth.

sonnie10:
■When everyone speak through their God given mouth, no matter the deformity or disability of the bodily member, God listens, answers their prayers and they are saved. There is no discrimination in that. Roman 2 vs 11. God does not show partiality. It is not about who we are but who we become in Christ Jesus.

The God of Isreal required all who belong to Him to pray in secret and hiding, meaning it does not matter whether you have a physical mouth or not, or whether one is born dumb or not, in Jesus Christ. What instead matters is whether your prayer is said in obedience to His commandments and teachings or not - Matthew 6 vs 6 - 15 & John 14 vs 15 - 24.

A person born without a mouth or ability to speak, for instance, is blessed as he/she is better able to comply with the requirement of the Law that is Jesus Christ than one who has a mouth and has no rule over it.

Kobojunkie:
The God of Isreal required all who belong to Him to pray in secret and hiding, meaning it does not matter whether you have a physical mouth or not, or whether one is born dumb or not, in Jesus Christ. What instead matters is whether your prayer is said in obedience to His commandments and teachings or not - Matthew 6 vs 6 - 15 & John 14 vs 15 - 24.

A person born without a mouth or ability to speak, for instance, is blessed as he/she is better able to comply with the requirement of the Law that is Jesus Christ than one who has a mouth and has no rule over it.

My position is that there is no person without a mouth. I want to be wrong on this ascertain.

sonnie10:
■ My position is that there is no person without a mouth. I want to be wrong on this ascertain.

God hears the very thoughts of men so technically there is no person without a mouth. The lack of a literal mouth does not mean a person has no voice to be heard by God.

sonnie10:

All men have mouth. Period . Just that your are half smart. Trying to cherry pick what you consider to constitute the mouth.

This is profoundly shocking coming from someone that so much prides himself in worldly knowledge. Just as your god, you don't even know that men without mouth actually exist? Thank God it's not up to you or your god otherwise mouth less humans would have no chance of salvation.

Btw, do yourself a world of good and google for images of mouthless humans online so you can learn what we already knew and stop arguing blindly.