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Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by ParisLove2(f): 5:35am On Oct 28, 2012 |
Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, wrote extensively on Islamic Jurisprudence. A two-volume book, which was published originally in Arabic, was called ‘Tahrir al Wasilah’. Translated into Farsi, the book is called “Tahrirolvasyleh.” (read entire text here.) Khomeini also had another treatise on Islamic rules for living, called in English, “The Little Green Book.” (see entire text here.) It is useful to understand what an esteemed Islamic leader such as the Ayatollah teaches his followers. Here are some excerpts from “Tahrirolvasyleh” which Muslims probably don’t want you to know about Islam: A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. ["Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990] A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm.He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, but selling the meat to a neighbouring village is reasonable. If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrement become impure and even their milkmay no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned. Wine and all intoxicating beverages are impure, but opium and hashish are not. If a man sodomises the son, brother, or father of his wife after their marriage, the marriage remains valid. During sexual intercourse, if the penis enters a woman’s vagina or a man’s anus, fully or only as far as the circumcision ring, both partners become impure, even if they have not reached puberty; they must consequently perform ablutions. A woman who has contracted a continuing marriage does not have the right to go out of the house without her husband’s permission; she must remain at his disposal for the fulfilment of any one of his desires, and may not refuse herself to him except for a religiously valid reason. If she is totally submissive to him, the husband must provide her with her food, clothing, and lodging, whether or not he has the means to do so. A woman who refuses herself to her husband is guilty, and may not demand from him food, clothing, lodging, or any later sexual relations; however, she retains the right to bepaid damages if she is repudiated. It is not illegal for an adult male to ‘thigh’ or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her. ["The Little Green Book"] Paedophilia legal in Iran In June, 2002 Iranian authorities approved a law raising the age at which girls can marry without parental consent from 9 to 13. The elected legislature actually passed the bill in 2000, but the “Guardian Council”, a 12-man body of conservative clerics, vetoed it as contradicting Islamic Sharia law. Iran’s clericalestablishment insists that the marriage of young girls is a means to combat immorality. The Expediency Council, which arbitrates between the elected parliament and the theocratic Guardian Council, timidly passed the measure. The law however does not change the age at which children can get married (nine for girls and 14 for boys), but says that girls below the age of 13 and boys younger than 15 need their parents’ permission and the approval of a “Righteous Court.” Reformists state that the new law does not protect children, since most of those who marry at such a young age do so by force. A religious decree by Khomeini ordered that girl prisoners who are virgins must be raped before execution, to prevent them from entering heaven. A Guard conducts the rape the night before execution. The next day, a marriage certificate is issued by a mullah, who sends it to the girl’s family, along with a box of chocolates as a wedding gift. It is quite common in Iran for older men to marry children, as long as they pay the appropriate bride-price to the girl’s family. This basically means that a father can sell his daughter to whomever he wants, whilst the mad mullahs see this as a means of maintaining purity. We prefer to call this child prostitution and rape, especially given that Iran’s clerics approve of the ‘tradition’ of ‘temporary marriage’ (Mut’a) , which can last less than 24 hours and may be repeated as many times as desired. This form of exploitation is widespread and legitimises sexwith young children. The man may even visit his temporary wife every weekend at her father’s house, for about $10 per visit. Khomeini on prostitution and Mut’a (temporary marriage) “It is permissible to do Mut’a with an adulteress, but with aversion, particularly if she is a well-known prostitute. If Mut’a is done with her, she should be told to give-up her profession.” |
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by maclatunji: 6:34am On Oct 28, 2012 |
^OP, your point is? Last time I checked, following Imam Khomeini's books isn't one of the pillars of Islam. #LOL. 2 Likes |
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by LagosShia: 8:47am On Oct 28, 2012 |
Paris-Love: The above are either deliberate forgeries or deliberate mistranslation as previously proven.for instance,Tahrilol Wasila has no fourth volume,yet you find obscene claims from this so called 4th volume.this is a deliberate fabricated claim non-muslims should be greatly ashamed of.they should also use it to reflect upon their inner selves and their hate for Islam. This topic isn't new.even before I became a member on nairaland,the non-muslims were using it to provoke muslims and someone muslim opened this thread to refute: https://www.nairaland.com/293710/complete-tahrirolvasyleh Moreover,there is the part in the two volumes for instance that are deliberately mistranslated.someone asked Ayatollah Khomeini on what should be done to a sodomized animal.the islam haters have gone further to mistranslate the part to appear as if the Ayatollah is actually promoting bestiality when in fact he's only tackling a prevailing problem that needs a solution.ironic enough,in the same book Ayatollah Khomeini stated the punishment to be administered on someone who commits bestiality! These are answers I gave from a previous thread: LagosShia: LagosShia: |
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by ParisLove2(f): 7:09pm On Oct 28, 2012 |
LagosShia:Yea i read your answer and went to through your links. Your shia chat link didn't say much just talk about bestiality. Here what they said: I would guess this is the actual part they've ripped and mangled out of its context in Tahrir. Again, rough translation: مسألة 22 : مما يوجب حرمة الحيوان المحلل بالاصل أن يطأه الانسان قبلا أو دبرا و إن لم ينزل ، صغيرا كان الواطئ أو كبيرا ، عالما كان أو جاهلا ، مختارا كان أو مكرها ، فحلا كان الموطوء أو أنثى ، فيحرم بذلك لحمه و لحم نسله المتجدد بعد الوطئ على الاقوى فى نسل الانثى و على الاحوط فى نسل الذكر ، و كذا لبنهما و صوفهما و شعرهما ، و الظاهر أن الحكم مختص بالبهيمة و لا يجري فى وطء سائر الحيوانات لا فيها و لا فى نسلها . Issue 22 – Of that which makes a halal origin animal haram is that a human being has sexual intercoursewith it, frontally or in back, even if he does not ejaculate, whether the doer of the sexual act is a minor or a mature person, knowing or ignorant, choosing (to do it) or compelled, whether the (animal ) that is having sexual intercourse done to itis a steed (male) or female, then by that its meat and the meat of it offspring reborn (?) after the intercourse upon the strongest (view) regarding theoffspring of the female and upon the most precautious with regards to the offspring of the male. Likewise is their milk, their wool, and their hair. And what is apparent is that the ruling is specific to the beast (bahima) and does not apply tointercourse with the rest of the animals, not in it and not in its offspring. مسألة 23 : الحيوان الموطوء إن كان مما يراد أكله كالشاة و البقرة و الناقة يجب أن يذبح ثم يحرق و يغرم الواطئ قيمته لمالكه إن كان غير المالك ، و إن كان مما يراد ظهره حملا أو ركوبا و ليس يعتاد أكله كالحمار و البغل و الفرس أخرج من المحل الذي فعل به إلى بلد آخر فيباع فيه ، فيعطى ثمنه للواطئ ، و يغرم قيمته إن كان غير المالك . Issue 23 – The animal which has had sexual intercourse done upon it, if it of (a type) that one wants to eat, like a sheep, and a cow, and a she-camel, then it is wajib to slaughter it then burn it, and the doer of the sexual act is fined its value toits owner if he was not the owner. And if it is of (a type) that one wants to (use) its back to carry (i.e. a beast of burden) or to ride, and its eating is not customary, like the donkey and the mule and the horse, it is taken out of spot in which it was done to another balad (country?) and sold in it. So its price is given for (? Unsure) the doer of the sexual act and he is fined its value if he was not the owner http://www.shiachat.com/forum/index.php?/topic/234969511-beastiality-halal/ Hahaha this funny ain't it so basically If you shag your neighbor's sheep, all you gotta do is write him a check. Lol Also in the other i found something rather strange, here it is Problem # 7 It is permissible for a person whohas touched the dead to enter the mosques and holyshrines or staying in them, or reading the Quranic Chapters containing Sajdah and if she is a woman, it is permissible to have intercourse with her, so that touching the dead is like the Minor Pollution (urination, etc.), except that touching the dead makes it obligatory to perform the ritual bath for offering the prayers or the like. http://www.al-shia.org/html/eng/books/fiqh&usool/islamic-laws/tahrir/07.html#link7Problem Correct me if am wrong is the imam saying it's ok to have sêx with a dead woman? Wow. |
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by LagosShia: 8:02pm On Oct 28, 2012 |
^ No he's not saying it is permissible to have sex with a dead woman.he's saying that if it is a woman who has touched a dead body,you can have sex with the woman even if the woman didn't do ghusl (ritual bath). For God's sake even such basic things you still misinterpret.then how dare you criticize what you don't know? Take note and don't forget that in the same book you're tampering with,there is punishment stated for someone who commits bestiality. Paris-Love: |
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by Nobody: 3:19pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
So many horrible claims on this thread. I really hope they are false. I just have one question LagosShia, was 'thighing' actually prescribed by ayatollah khomeini? Was it? Cos I have come across that claim before and it seemed to be true. Also, was the râpe of virgin prisoners also prescribed by him? Paris-Love: |
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by LagosShia: 5:26pm On Oct 29, 2012 |
fellis: Madam, Whenever a claim is made,ask for evidence.ask those who make the claim to show where it is written with reference.I've not come across what you're saying.as you can see,all of the claims that are made are outright lies built on either fabrication or deliberate mistanslation. I would advice you re-read my responses in this thread.anti-islam fanatics have made these claims to attack islam.unfortunate,the dumb wahhabis too have repeated these claims to attack the Shia.the first thing you need to check is if the statement attributed to Ayatollah Khomeini is found in the so called 4th volume of Tahrilol Wasila,then it is definitely false because there's no 4th volume. 1 Like |
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by Nobody: 10:17am On Oct 30, 2012 |
Disgusting,wicked,EVIL. 2 Likes |
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by Sunniftw: 8:08pm On Oct 06, 2013 |
Sorry, all of this is false and incorrect...Read the Hadith and Qur'an #AhlaSunnahWalJamah اتقوا الله 2 Likes |
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by Nobody: 1:45am On Oct 07, 2013 |
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Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by Skybolt: 7:34pm On Nov 13, 2016 |
Short answer : Its all false and fabricated accusations on AYATOLLAH KHAMEMEI... If you want Clearification.. Read the Long Answer:- (Dont Spread Flase and fabricated Accusations.. You have to die some day) Long answer: Every Shia Ayatollah who wants to become a ''religious leader''(or a "'Marjae Taghlid''), someone who is able to give religious advice to others, has to write an extensive religious text called a ''Resaleh'', and in it explain his own opinion concerning religious, ethical, philosophical, social and political matters. In this text a lot of ''possible scenarios'' are considered, and a lot of questions are answered on how a good Shia should deal with those scenarios if they ever do happen. This ranges from simple matters like what should one do during Ramadan if he's a traveler, to complicated things like how to deal with people from other religions, to ridiculous things like what you should do if you fart during prayer or have an erection while reading the Qoran! Khomeini was both a Grand Ayatollah and a Marjae Taghlid, so he had his own "Resaleh'', which is very elaborate and extensive. To non-Shia Muslims some of the things in his Resaleh might sound ridiculous. some of it might sound bizarre and some of it will sound other-worldly. I am Shia but I don't follow Ayatollah Khomeini as my mentor,however I have read some of his Resaleh and to answer your questions one by one : sex with females of any age if they were promised in marriage. He says it is best not to have sex with women under the legal age of consent in Islam, which is 9 for women and 15 for men, because formal marriage is impossible before this age, but if such a thing happens between a boy and girl who have been engaged, it is not considered ''Zenae Qeir-Muhassenah'', or ''grave adultery between unmarried couples'' which is considered a great sin, and could be punishable by lashes. also brought quotes saying he approved of Opium use No, he absolutely did not approve of it, he believed it was not a sin. To understand this perfectly, you must consider the differences between a bad act, the law, and a ''sin''. Sin is a bad act you commit against God and his will, it is a religious concept. Bad behavior is something you do to other people that is not acceptable under the ethical belief system and cultural climate you live in, or that is hurtful to others. Law, is a government mandate for how you should behave based on legal considerations. Opium and other narcotics are illegal in Iran, and people dealing more than a certain amount of it will be executed by the government, using them is also a social stigma and is not considered ''good'' or ''acceptable''. So it's not good, it's not legal, but is it a sin against God and his true prophet? Each Ayatollah has a different answer. Khomeini thought that even though narcotics are socially destructive and using them is a morally reprehensible thing to do, it cannot be considered a sin because sin is by nature determined by God. Using opium and other drugs is not considered a sin in Islam because when Muhammad (s) was chosen by God to become a prophet these things did not exist. sex with animals Absolutely not. As I mentioned earlier, an Ayatollah must answer every question that his followers ask from him, and he has to come up with an appropriate punishment for each sin from a religious point of view. Having sex with animals is a sin, illegal, and a morally wrong thing to do. All three. But ''what if'' someone does have sex with a animal? What should that person do to repent? Confess to God, pay some fine to the owner of the animal and pay a fine to the local mosque, was Ayatollah Khomeini's answer. Some misguided and judgmental people took this as ''Khomeini is saying pay some money and go Bleep a goat, look at this depraved pervert''. But of course this is not true or fair. An Ayatollah has a moral responsibility and a religious duty to answer every single question that a believer might have from him, a Resaleh is a thick book filled with these questions and the author's answers to them. So he's not saying ''Mmm yes, let's go Bleep some goats right noaw'', he's saying ''what if someone bleeps a goat..' Some of our kafir friends have had great times trolling these pious old men with questions like ''what if I sit on a spoon and it ends up my rectum'', ''what if I accidentally marry my mom?'', ''what if I piss out of my ass one day and it ends up in my mouth?'', ''what if alines come to earth and I Bleep one of them, is it halal?''... The kafirs do this for several reasons: to mock our faith and show how ''silly'' we religious folks are(and how enlightened they are), to give the less intelligent fedora tippers something to mock us instead of having a civilized discourse, and also because it's ''fun'' to mess with the holy. And they have answered them all! In fact you can ask these questions from most Grand Ayatollah's online, and they will answer almost all of them no matter how ridiculous they might sound. |
Re: Ayatollah Khomeini's Book On Sex: For Shias by Zain313(m): 10:03am On Nov 14, 2016 |
Only bigoted people like the poster will be swayed by this falsehood |
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