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Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by adami48(f): 1:41pm On May 24, 2013 |
Dr. Whizy: Dr. Whizy: |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by Nobody: 1:44pm On May 24, 2013 |
jonot: Found this on Wikipedia: Am not from Benin but if dis is true, then i understand what the woolwich attacker means by "our land" 1 Like |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by treatise: 1:44pm On May 24, 2013 |
No betrayal buddy, how can you bombard a place with Cannon ,stampede them into compliance and still call it betrayal? Olu'femi Abbey: |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by idumuose(m): 1:45pm On May 24, 2013 |
Is Benin kingdom An issue now? Ɣ☺u 4 open a topic on Mongo Park. Ɣ☺u 4 open topic 2 on king Jaja of Opobo. Abeg go sleep.We r discussiing important issues as it Affects our country and wellbeing,and here Ɣ☺u come Bringing an 18 century Benin kingdom story.Abeg carry Dis topic go anoda thread. NONSENSE! |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by Mudley313: 1:46pm On May 24, 2013 |
Uyi Iredia: |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by Nobody: 1:47pm On May 24, 2013 |
Oduntan Gabriel: Are u sure he was arrested in this picture? It looks as if the king was being followed by his guards...... Abi dem no get handcuff dos days ni? Look down,near his left ankle,there is a chain hanging down there.I think his white robe was covering much of it. |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by isalegan2: 1:48pm On May 24, 2013 |
There is way too much ignorance on Nairaland, especially lately. Threads like this should not be put on home page so quickly - look at all the stupidity. Hope the admin and mods are happy sha. |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by Decency75: 1:56pm On May 24, 2013 |
the book written by Ola Rotimi ( The gods are not to blame) explained it all. You people should go and read the book. |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by Azone: 1:57pm On May 24, 2013 |
Felixadded: Are you trying to tell us that YORUBAS are EDOS by origin or what?YES I am saying your were born out of our Prince...Dont take it personal, just like many yoruba names with benin meaning. Eko has no yoruba meaning. It means Settlement in EDO We have a story, rich culture and if you check your stories and ours you will find holes in yours even you cannot explain. For instance Yorubas belief Oduduwa came from sky, with a bird and corn and sand I guess. He started life in yoruba land right? Did he meet people on ground? How did he multiply? Our own story is not clear on how Life started, We belief our son came to you with those things becos we were more civilized back then. |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by PlanetXApe: 2:03pm On May 24, 2013 |
Why can't you lot just discuss the topic rather than post junks from your Oba's propaganda? And hell no, Oduduwa didn't come from Benin, your Oba's crown came from Ile-ife. Where's PhysicsQED and Bokohalal to set these myopic noisy lot straight? Ask your Oba why he's called "Oba" and not "Ogiso." Topic: Sad pic! |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by bokohalal(m): 2:08pm On May 24, 2013 |
Three fallacies here. The Oba was not arrested in His Palace as the British already burnt it down. Oba Ovonramwen is not the LAST Oba of Benin Kingdom. There is a reigning Oba . The Yorubas are not from Benin . 3 Likes |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by Mudley313: 2:11pm On May 24, 2013 |
Decency75: the book written by Ola Rotimi ( The gods are not to blame) explained it all. You people should go and read the book. how can you recommend people to go read fictitious drama patterned after greek mythology, oedipus rex in order to make sense of a purely historical event |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by Nobody: 2:12pm On May 24, 2013 |
Let's ignore the derailers and continue with Bini history. The kingdom of Benin comprised the capital city, that is, metropolitan Benin, and the outlying districts. Just like the metropolis, the Oba of Benin directed the control of these districts from the central government at the capital. Before its destruction, Benin City possessed an extensive network of streets up to 131 feet wide. A complex city wall system with nine gates, numbering among the most impressive earth structure in the world, protected the city from intruders. The palace compound itself occupied a large part, and is meant to have encompassed a surface area of 1148 x 2133 feet (Nevadomsky 1997). Apart from these palace grounds encompassed the private living quarters of the king, various reception courts, the quarters of the three palace societies, and the royal harem. At least in the 17th century the wooden pillars supporting the roof of the galleries were decorated with mounted bronze reliefs plaques. In the 19th century the pillars were made of clay, and bore reliefs worked directly into the material. Doors and beams in the royal precinct were in some cases covered with hand-embossed sheet brass, or decorated with inlaid mirrors. Numerous European visitors reported on the long waiting times before they were admitted to see the king. Access to the monarch was not only impeded by architectural hurdles, but also by the various ranks of dignitaries, who often actually posed an insurmountable obstacle (Plankensteiner 2007: 277). 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by PAGAN9JA(m): 2:14pm On May 24, 2013 |
Rossikk: SHUT UP! ITS JUST A DESIGN! STOP FORGING FAKE CONNECTIONS! PLEASE! |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by Nobody: 2:15pm On May 24, 2013 |
Decency75: the book written by Ola Rotimi ( The gods are not to blame) explained it all. You people should go and read the book.Oba Ovanranwen Nogbaisi is the name of the book. It was first staged in 1971 by the Ori Olokun Group of the University of Ife. Jimi Solanke played the lead role of the oba. 1 Like |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by PAGAN9JA(m): 2:18pm On May 24, 2013 |
Mudley313: THAT HAT IS A POOR COPY OF THE EUROPEAN TRICORN HAT WORN BY THE PORTUGUESE! SAME CASE WITH THE STAR OF DAVID. ALL BORROWED CONEPTS FROM THE EUROPEANS! 1 Like |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by Mudley313: 2:18pm On May 24, 2013 |
bokohalal: when oba ovonramwen is refered to as the last oba of benin kingdom it refers to the autonomous "Benin Empire" that lasted from 1440 to 1897 when ovoranramwen was captured and exiled 1 Like |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by IleIfe2(m): 2:21pm On May 24, 2013 |
Look at those mercenaries, look at their faces, White people have been using Mallams against us for centuries [img]http://img1.nairaland.com/attachments/1121579_293831_10201273874108616_185131635_n_jpg1479ea8098c8c05b4599fc3eb0f46fa1[/img] |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by PAGAN9JA(m): 2:26pm On May 24, 2013 |
OBA KABIYESI OOO!!!!!!!!! DOESNT HE LOOK LIKE AN ANGEL?!! [size=16pt]MY GODS WHAT A GREAT MAN! A CHIEF OF THE PEOPLE! [/size] not like monkeys today: 1 Like |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by IleIfe2(m): 2:31pm On May 24, 2013 |
Mudley313: Overami or Ovonramwen was the last Oba or King of the African Kingdom of Benin, also sometimes referred to as the Benin Empire (not be confused with the modern country of Benin) which occupied an area mostly within what is now Nigeria. For many years prior to Ovonramwen coming to the throne British influence in the area had been expanding and strengthening but Benin remained independent but that independence, particularly the trade monopoly the Oba held in the region, aroused the jealousy of elite colonial investors and businessmen. They were determined to bring Benin with its palm-oil, rubber and ivory wealth under British control. Ovonramwen came to the throne in 1888 as the 35th Oba of Benin and in 1892 signed a treaty with the British to abolish the slave trade in the region and making the Kingdom of Benin an autonomous protectorate of Great Britain. How far na? abeg i fit save am for my blog? |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by tomakint: 2:32pm On May 24, 2013 |
Mad Cow:You are so right! Besides, he looked so depressed in that picture, no crown and even bare-footed no doubt this was an arrest! 1 Like |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by PhysicsQED(m): 2:40pm On May 24, 2013 |
On the Obaseki issue raised by the OP, there are books and articles which give more detailed accounts of what happened (such as Philip Igbafe's book The Nemesis of Power), but I'll summarize some of what I know as far as Obaseki and Oba Ovonramwen. Anyone who knows more can correct anything they're certain that I got wrong, and also add their own information. Agho Obaseki did not betray Oba Ovonramwen as far as I know. Before the invasion, and even while Oba Ovonramwen was still a prince, Agho and the Oba were close, and after Oba Ovonramwen became king, he made Agho a member of the Iweguae society in the palace (a palace society composed of the Oba's personal attendants) by creating the new title of Obaseki. After the British invasion and the occupation of Benin City, when the Oba and several of his followers were still in the forests and keeping away from the occupied capital city, Agho Obaseki surrendered to the British. Agho Obaseki and a few other chiefs who had already surrendered repeatedly sent messengers to find and contact the Oba to plead with him to surrender and give himself up. Eventually he did, and he (Oba Ovonramwen) came back into the city voluntarily with several of his wives and a large group of people following him, and surrendered. After the trial and Oba Ovonramwen's deportation to Calabar, Agho Obaseki was chosen by the British as one of several chiefs who would act as "paramount chiefs" over the Bini in the administrative system the British set up. Later, because of his personal qualities such as his intelligence and cooperativeness, they made him vice president (initially the British vice consul was president) and eventually president of the "Benin Native Council" that they set up, and he came to have a lot of influence and power. In the period between Oba Ovonramwen's exile and the restoration of the monarchy under Oba Eweka II, the British administrators came to have a high opinion of Agho Obaseki as a native administrator. Before the death of Oba Ovonramwen, the colonial system of "paramount chiefs" had already become unpopular and the people running it were viewed as somewhat corrupt and inefficient, so the system was viewed unfavorably by the people, and discussions about restoring the monarchy started to take place. When the British decided to concede to the idea of restoring the monarchy (while Oba Ovonramwen was still alive), there was serious consideration of Agho Obaseki being made Oba by the British. What Obaseki's view on possibly becoming Oba was isn't all that clear but apparently he rejected the idea (though there are differing accounts - one account suggests that Obaseki really was trying to become Oba, and that the Ezomo (who was his relative) at the time pledged his support for the idea). Eventually, in 1914, Oba Ovonramwen passed away in Calabar, and not long after, the Iyase from Oba Ovonramwen's reign, Okizi, passed away. The British conceded to the restoration of the monarchy as had been discussed before the death of Oba Ovonramwen, and prince Aiguobasimwin acceded to the throne as Oba Eweka II a few months after Oba Ovonramwen's death. Apparently, Oba Eweka II was already opposed to Agho Obaseki even when he was a prince, but installed him as Iyase anyway. Later, there were some significant disagreements between Oba Eweka II and his Iyase, Agho Obaseki, and they didn't really get along. This tension between Oba Eweka II and his Iyase, and the fact that there was serious talk of Agho Obaseki possibly being made a king over the Bini when Oba Ovonramwen was in exile, might be the source of the idea of a "betrayal." But as far as I can tell there was no actual betrayal during the invasion. On the hats, Oba Ovonramwen was in exile in Calabar, and some of the royalty there wear/wore hats based on or inspired by European styles, so it is probably a style he adopted from his hosts while in exile. Lagos has had contact with European traders and sailors for centuries, so the hat that the Oba of Lagos is wearing in that picture is most likely to be inspired by one of those contacts with Europeans from the past, although I don't know what the significance of the symbols is on the hats worn by either the Oba of Benin or the Oba of Lagos in those pictures. Those symbols in both pictures might be a combination of European and African designs superimposed on a European style hat. As for the "star of David" stuff, hexagrams or six-pointed stars aren't a visual motif that is exclusive to Hebrews. Anyone can use them and other peoples have used them in the past. On the Benin-Yoruba thing, you guys should give that a rest, the issue has become somewhat stale after being mentioned too many times. 4 Likes |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by Nobody: 2:46pm On May 24, 2013 |
PAGAN 9JA:I think this a more plausible explanation. 1 Like |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by nellaluv(f): 2:52pm On May 24, 2013 |
PapaBrowne: I have never heard the story of Obaseki's betrayal. But I will like to know more about it. I'll wait for PhysicsQed to come up and enlighten us.Oh wow, you are a from benin city. I love the history of the bini kingdom and their rich culture. So beautiful 1 Like |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by Nobody: 3:01pm On May 24, 2013 |
jonot: Found this on Wikipedia: Oh wow.. Poor Oba |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by Mudley313: 3:03pm On May 24, 2013 |
Ile-Ife: make i arrange d tori well wit citations... On June 28 in 1899, British forces occupying Benin City hanged a local tribal leader for the massacre whose perpetration had justified London’s, er, “humanitarian” intervention. The locale is “Benin”, not the modern country of Benin but rather the land just to the east currently situated in southern Nigeria — which was then the Benin Empire. Ruled from Benin City (also presently in Nigeria), this great African state had been in direct contact with European countries since the 15th century. By the 19th it had waned with colonial incursions — but Benin itself had sagely declined to extend “free trade” to the powers that meant to dominate it, nor to cede sovereignty by signing a “protectorate” arrangement. It was only a matter of time before Britain (or someone else) made an offer Benin couldn’t refuse. In January 1897, a British expedition attempting to enter Benin during a religious festival against the orders of its oba (king) was slaughtered by a Benin force led by the oba‘s son-in-law, Ologbosere (alternatively, Ologbosheri). Britain claimed it was a diplomatic mission; Benin apparently believed the deputation meant to attack. Regardless, the tactical victory would prove a strategic debacle. New York Times, Jan. 21, 1897. The last paragraph of this article innocently observes that “the country is said to be very rich, and it would not be surprising to find that one result of the punitive expedition would be the annexation of the whole territory to the British possessions in West Africa.” Link: http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9903E3DE1230E333A25751C2A9679C94669ED7CF The circumstances of this encounter remain murky and hotly disputed to this day. As we learn from the London Times - June 12, 1898 (keep in mind that global superpowers usually misrepresent its intentions or engineer a provocation in order to unseat a resource-rich dictator e.g. iraq in modern times): The object of the mission is described as peaceful, and one version even asserts that the party were unarmed … it was intended to send a party to Benin city to ask the King to remove the obstacles which he places in the way of trade … The King and his capital have a bad reputation. He is a “Ju Ju” follower and addicted to human sacrifices, the gruesome remains of which are to be found in abundance in his capital. He is said recently to have threatened death to the next white man who attempted to visit him, and there is but too good reason to fear that he has kept his word. A military expedition against him probably would have been necessary in any event sooner or later. Dispatched within days, the retaliatory Benin punitive expedition sacked Benin City by the end of February, sending its reigning oba into exile. The Benin Empire had fallen and was folded into Britain’s colonial administration. Punitive force personnel reported a veritable bloodbath perpetrated within Benin City by its outgoing administration, including that trump taboo, human sacrifice. Naval intelligence officer R.H. Bacon wrote: The one lasting remembrance of Benin in my mind is its smells. Crucifixions, human sacrifices, and every horror the eye could get accustomed to, to a large extent, but the smells no white man’s internal economy could stand...Blood was everywhere; smeared over bronzes, ivory, and even the walls, and spoke the history of that awful city in a clearer way than writing ever could. And this had been going on for centuries! Not the lust of one king, not the climax of a bloody reign, but the religion of the race..the atrocities of Benin, originating in blood lust and desire to terrorise the neighbouring states, the brutal love of mutilation and torture, and the wholesale manner in which the caprices of the King and Juju were satisfied, could only have been the result of stagnant brutality...[I saw] a crucifixion tree with a double crucifixion on it, the two poor wretches stretched out facing the west, with their arms bound together in the middle. The construction of this tree was peculiar, being absolutely built for the purpose of crucifixion. At the base were skulls and bones, literally strewn about; the debris of former sacrifices … and down every main road were two or more human sacrifices. ..and another synoptic report of two other officers: Seven large sacrifice compounds were found inclosed by walls...[containing earthen] altars [that] were covered with streams of dried human blood...[and] open pits filled with human bodies giving forth the most trying odours. Whilst Britain set about making Benin safe for the olfactory nerves of long-barred merchandisers, Ologbosere persisted in the bush for more than two years. He was finally snared with the connivance of some local tribal chiefs keen to do business with the new boss. Tried on June 27 — just one day before his actual execution; the verdict, of course, foreordained — Ologbosere was damned by those chiefs’ testimony that the strike force he had led back in 1897 to precipitate the intervention “was not sent to kill white men — and we therefore decide that according to native law his life is forfeited.” Ologbosere said otherwise, to no avail: The king told me that he had heard that the white men were coming to fight with him, and that I must get ready to go and fight the white men...when all the people called the mass meeting at Benin City and selected me to go and fight the white men, I went. I had no palaver with the white men before. The day I was selected to go from Benin City to meet the white men all the chiefs here present were in the meeting, and now they want to put the whole thing on my shoulders. Great Britain’s punitive expedition also resulted in the capture of many hundreds of metal objects scattered to European museums and collections — collectively known as the Benin Bronzes. Nigeria, and the successor obas of Benin, have for decades besought their return in vain. |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by henrysam(m): 3:04pm On May 24, 2013 |
Mad Cow: See as ehn humble..That is why some people don't have respect for policemen lives because they don't respect ordinary peoples lives too. A shinning example is ombaste people in nasarawa state |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by nusirat(m): 3:06pm On May 24, 2013 |
Mad Cow: See as ehn humble.. Eni tolopa mu oni oun gba koro ohun gba gba un gba ko sa ti di de station ni o |
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Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by HolyTruth: 3:10pm On May 24, 2013 |
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Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by luluosas(m): 3:11pm On May 24, 2013 |
I though I have little information of the event during his reign but, my grand father that was born during his time is still alive till date. |
Re: Oba Ovonramwem Arrested And Taken-Out Of His Palace (Picture) by Policewoman(f): 3:12pm On May 24, 2013 |
nellaluv: Pictures they say speak a thousand words. This is a Photo of the Oba of Benin, Oba Ovonramwem, when he was arrested and taken out of his palace! this was later 18th centuries, right?Policemen of those days no dey wear shoe?? |
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