TenQ:

Please do not waste my time?
If you don't understand the workings of simple softwares , how can you comprehend spiritual things.

Again :
1. If an existence is not tangible i.e. cannot be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time, does it prove it doesn't exist?
2. Is a software within a machine REAL or not?
3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means?
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?


Otherwise, let's call it a day!

Hehehe

You just said you are yet to claim a software is spirit. Now, if I don't understand the workings of a software how can I understand spiritual things?. Talk of wasting another person's time with some dishonesty 😂

Please go back to my previous response .I modified it to answer your question on measurement of dimensions, mass ,time etc

TenQ:

1. Wrong Question: No one ever has claimed that a software is a Spirit!
2. Non tangible (your words not mine) imply out of the league of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time.

Correct!

triplechoice:


Hehehe

You just said you are yet to claim a software is spirit. Now, if I don't understand the workings of a software how can I understand spiritual things. Talk of wasting another person's time with some dishonest. 😂

Please go back to my previous response .I modified it to answer your question on measurement of dimensions, mass ,time etc

Have a nice day!

TenQ:

I don't know where you find me use the word EFFECT except you are dazed.

My question was:
Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software IN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?

If you don't have an answer, please don't chat me.
Only Cowards or intentional Dummies flee direct Questions which will test their level of competency!

Look at the 1st post you responded to, I clearly wrote effect there. If you don't know what it means look it up.

The dummies are like you who can't read and understand simple things.

triplechoice:
This thread is fun to read.

@ TenQ


The definition for non physical that we have says it has to do with the mind ,spirit or non tangible ..

So, can you validly challenge my definition for every atheist has run away from it?

LordReed:


Look at the 1st post you responded to, I clearly wrote effect there. If you don't know what it means look it up.

The dummies are like you who can't read and understand simple things.

Tell me, was I referring to you or even responding to you.?

When you are ready, answer my questions otherwise, you remain the empty barrel that can only make noise

TenQ:

Tell me, was I referring to you or even responding to you.?

When you are ready, answer my questions otherwise, you remain the empty barrel that can only make noise

But you responded to me so if you didn't bother to read the post its not my problem.

TenQ:

Have a nice day!

You too .

See, I also subscribe to what you trying to call spirit. But the difference between you and me is the definition and the explanation of what it's.


A popular author once said that if you claim to know something but struggle to explain it clearly and simply enough for everyone to understand it, then you don't know it .

triplechoice:


You too .

See, I also subscribe to what you trying to call spirit. But the difference between you and me is the definition and the explanation of what it's.


A popular author once said that if you claim to know something but struggle to explain it clearly and simply enough for everyone to understand it, then you don't know it .

"Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding (or pretence in lack og understanding) disbelief or ignorance."
W. Clement Stone

I have explained it, and called for a valid challenge of my definition but every atheist has runs away. Understandably, anyway!

StillDtruth:


"Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding (or pretence in lack og understanding) disbelief or ignorance."
W. Clement Stone

I have explained it, and called for a valid challenge of my definition but every atheist has runs away. Understandably, anyway!

You definition doesn't describe anything tangible.

triplechoice:


You too .

See, I also subscribe to what you trying to call spirit. But the difference between you and me is the definition and the explanation of what it's.


A popular author once said that if you claim to know something but struggle to explain it clearly and simply enough for everyone to understand it, then you don't know it .

I did not once define what a spirit nor soul is!

StillDtruth:


So, can you validly challenge my definition for every atheist has run away from it?

No!
It is not in my place to challenge your definition except you are an atheist

TenQ:

I did not once define what a spirit nor soul is!

Then what have you been trying to describe or hint at with your use of the software analogy.?

triplechoice:


Then what have you been trying to describe or hint at with your use of the software analogy.?

Anyone that cannot understand that non-tangible things can be real but not measurable cannot understand why the soul or spirit is tangible but cannot be physically measured.
This is why atheists demand a physical proof for what is not physically demonstratable and they keep on braying like donkeys as if what they say makes any sense.

Thus I give a Software in an AI robot analogy.

This is why they would NEVER answer the question as it betrays their STUPIDITY!

TenQ:

Anyone that cannot understand that non-tangible things can be real but not measurable cannot understand why the soul or spirit is tangible but cannot be physically measured.
This is why atheists demand a physical proof for what is not physically demonstratable and they keep on braying like donkeys as if what they say makes any sense.

Thus I give a Software in an AI robot analogy.

This is why they would NEVER answer the question as it betrays their STUPIDITY!

Your own stupidity is not realising that when you claim something has effects on the physical those effects can be measured.

TenQ:

Anyone that cannot understand that non-tangible things can be real but not measurable cannot understand why the soul or spirit is tangible but cannot be physically measured.

What's the actual nature of this spirit or soul you keeping talking about?

How did you come to perceive it yourself to know it's real?

This is why atheists demand a physical proof for what is not physically demonstratable and they keep on braying like donkeys as if what they say makes any sense.

Thus I give a Software in an AI robot analogy.

If it cannot be seen or physically demonstrated, then don't blame anyone who says it doesn't it.

This is why they would NEVER answer the question as it betrays their STUPIDITY!

Please drop the insult. You're acting too defensively now. Find a more better way to describe what spirit is first. Your software analogy makes perfect sense to you probably because you have a direct experience of what you're talking about. But for others who have no such experience,, nothing you say will make any sense .

triplechoice:
What's the actual nature of this spirit or soul you keeping talking about?

How did you come to perceive it yourself to know it's real?

If it cannot be seen or physically demonstrated, then don't blame anyone who says it doesn't it.


Please drop the insult. You're acting too defensively now. Find a more better way to describe what spirit is first. Your software analogy makes perfect sense to you probably because you have a direct experience of what you're talking about. But for others who have no such experience,, nothing you say will make any sense .

Then answer my questions about that which everyone can deduce the answers and it's logical conclusions.

If you cannot understand how a software of an AI machine is, it is impossible to understand how a spirit is

LordReed:


Your own stupidity is not realising that when you claim something has effects on the physical those effects can be measured.

My question still stand. If you cannot answer it, then you are not worthy of it.

Again my Challenge to Atheists:
1. If an existence is not tangible i.e. cannot be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time, does it prove it doesn't exist?
2. Is a software within a machine REAL or not?
3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means?
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?



Otherwise, admit that you are a bunch of good for nothing noise makers!

Cc:
LordReed,
triplechoice

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_measurement#:~:text=Software%20size%20is%20principally%20measured,indication%20of%20effort%20than%20functionality.

TenQ:

Then answer my questions about that which everyone can deduce the answers and it's logical conclusions.

Which questions exactly?

If you cannot understand how a software of an AI machine is, it is impossible to understand how a spirit is

Not true.

I understand how a software of an AI machine is . I don't know why you assume I don't.

It's you who has been struggling to make others understand how the software of an AI is similar to spirit. The blame is yours not mine. The AI software produces effects everyone can observe.

Can you tell what observable effects or effect spirit produces ? If doesn't, then how to you convince others it exist .

TenQ:
Again my Challenge to Atheists:[i]
1. If an existence is not tangible i.e. cannot be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time, does it prove it doesn't exist?

I love how you write senseless statements and ask others to oppose them. This sentence takes the cake.

If a wetness is not tangible does it prove it doesn’t get wet?

If a dryness is not tangible does it prove it doesn’t get dry?

If a hardness is not tangible does it prove it doesn’t get hard?

If a brightness is not tangible does it prove it doesn’t bright?

If a dullness is not tangible……..Actually, TenQ is the proof of dullness.

KnownUnknown:


I love how you write senseless statements and ask others to oppose them. This sentence takes the cake.

If a wetness is not tangible does it prove it doesn’t get wet?

If a dryness is not tangible does it prove it doesn’t get dry?

If a hardness is not tangible does it prove it doesn’t get hard?

If a brightness is not tangible does it prove it doesn’t bright?

If a dullness is not tangible……..Actually, TenQ is the proof of dullness.

It seems you lack understanding of the word EXISTENCE in the sense of an Object (tangible or intangible)!

Too bad!

Again if you can comprehend my challenge :


Again my Challenge to Atheists:
1. If an existence is not tangible i.e. cannot be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time, does it prove it doesn't exist?
2. Is a software within a machine REAL or not?
3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means?
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?



Otherwise, admit that you are a bunch of good for nothing noise makers!

triplechoice:
Which questions exactly?
Not true.

I understand how a software of an AI machine is . I don't know why you assume I don't.

It's you who has been struggling to make others understand how the software of an AI is similar to spirit. The blame is yours not mine. The AI software produces effects everyone can observe.

Can you tell what observable effects or effect spirit produces ? If doesn't, then how to you convince others it exist .

Why are you this elusive?

Again my Challenge to Atheists:
1. If an existence is not tangible i.e. cannot be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time, does it prove it doesn't exist?
2. Is a software within a machine REAL or not?
3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means?
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?



Otherwise, admit that you are a bunch of good for nothing noise makers!

TenQ:

Why are you this elusive?

Again my Challenge to Atheists:
1. If an existence is not tangible i.e. cannot be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time, does it prove it doesn't exist?
2. Is a software within a machine REAL or not?
3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means?
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?



Otherwise, admit that you are a bunch of good for nothing noise makers!

LordReed and Jaephoenix, this is not rocket science questions... Lemme help you
1. No...

2. It is very real...
3. No...
4. Its actually very foolish but wisdom in the minds of delusional atheists.

5. LordReed, Jaephoenix come and answer this one

Aemmyjah:



LordReed and Jaephoenix, this is not rocket science questions... Lemme help you
1. No...

2. It is very real...
3. No...
4. Its actually very foolish but wisdom in the minds of delusional atheists.

5. LordReed, Jaephoenix come and answer this one

People who have nothing to hide NEVER will have a problem answering this questions except delusional people who bark like muzzled rabid dogs: empty barrels that make all the big noises.

Thanks Mr Aemmyjah, but let it come from their own mouths.

triplechoice:
Which questions exactly?
Not true.

I understand how a software of an AI machine is . I don't know why you assume I don't.

It's you who has been struggling to make others understand how the software of an AI is similar to spirit. The blame is yours not mine. The AI software produces effects everyone can observe.

Can you tell what observable effects or effect spirit produces ? If doesn't, then how to you convince others it exist .

It amazes me how someone who sees himself as intelligent will be struggling with something so simple. Software produces effects that can be measured, simple but TENQ needs a kindergarten teacher to explain it to him.

Aemmyjah:



LordReed and Jaephoenix, this is not rocket science questions... Lemme help you
1. No...

2. It is very real...
3. No...
4. Its actually very foolish but wisdom in the minds of delusional atheists.

5. LordReed, Jaephoenix come and answer this one

You are also another dumdum who doesn't know that software produces effects that can be measured.

LordReed:


It amazes me how someone who sees himself as intelligent will be struggling with something so simple. Software produces effects that can be measured, simple but TENQ needs a kindergarten teacher to explain it to him.

My question was not about the effect software produces BUT the software itself.
Is the software not real inside an AI machine ?
Why do you think my questions are difficult for you to answer: are they not straight forward questions that require simple answers?


Let me go with you:
How do you determine by effects that an AI Machine has EFFECTS such that the effects to you is an evidence that such a Machine is run by a Software?
i.e. What are the characteristics you see that make you conclude that an AI Machine has a software (even when you can't quantify, handle or touch the software itself without another software)?

TenQ:
Again my Challenge to Atheists:
1. If an existence is not tangible i.e. cannot be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time, does it prove it doesn't exist?
2. Is a software within a machine REAL or not?
3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means?
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?



Otherwise, admit that you are a bunch of good for nothing noise makers!

Cc:
LordReed,
triplechoice

LoLz! Please continue to expose your ignorance so we can school you.

1. Nope. Tangibility has never been a characteristic of existence. Your insistence in saying atheists want only physically tangible stuff shows your own depravity.

2. Software is real.

3. Software can be observed or measured by its effects. Something so simple that was staring at you since your first response to me on this thread.

4. It is the dumdum who doesn't realise that this intangible software is producing tangible effects and so thinks physical evidence of software is impossible to obtain. What a dullard.

5. Dumdum, you observe or measure the effects of the software!

If we blast you with questions now you'll start going from pillar post and not answer any.

Oya answer my own questions.

1. What is spirit?

2. What is the spiritual realm?

3. How can we obtain evidence of the existence of spirit and spiritual realm?

Just 3 questions o, let's see how you fumble. Bwahahahahaha!

TenQ:

My question was not about the effect software produces BUT the software itself.
Is the software not real inside an AI machine ?
Why do you think my questions are difficult for you to answer: are they not straight forward questions that require simple answers?


Let me go with you:
How do you determine by effects that an AI Machine has EFFECTS such that the effects to you is an evidence that such a Machine is run by a Software?
i.e. What are the characteristics you see that make you conclude that an AI Machine has a software (even when you can't quantify, handle or touch the software itself without another software)?

I have answered your questions now answer mine.

Finally, you developed some balls
My Question ONE:
1. If an existence is not tangible i.e. cannot be measured in terms of Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time, does it prove it doesn't exist?
Your Response

LordReed:

LoLz! Please continue to expose your ignorance so we can school you.
1. Nope. Tangibility has never been a characteristic of existence. Your insistence in saying atheists want only physically tangible stuff shows your own depravity.

Correct: Meaning that existence cannot be proved only by physical measurables like Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time
Conclusion: It is ignorance that makes Atheis require physical proof of existence such as the Soul/Spirit as a proof of its existence


My Question TWO:
2. Is a software within a machine REAL or not?
Your Response:

LordReed:

2. Software is real.

Correct: Meaning that an EXISTENCE can Be REAL without having ANY measurable physical evidence of like Mass, Dimension, Energy and Time


My Question THREE:
3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means?
Your Response:

LordReed:

3. Software can be observed or measured by its effects. Something so simple that was staring at you since your first response to me on this thread.

This is NOT the Question sir.
Can a software WITHIN a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means? In other words without using another software, can you measure or detect the presence of a computer program running inside an AI machine?


My Question FOUR:
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
Your Response:

LordReed:

4. It is the dumdum who doesn't realise that this intangible software is producing tangible effects and so thinks physical evidence of software is impossible to obtain. What a dullard.

This is NOT the Question!
Is it WISDOM to insist on requiring a physical evidence for a software withing an AI machine to conclude that it exist or STUPIDITY?

You are required to take either of the two positions and then give explanations or reasons if you think it requres it.

My Question FIVE:
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?
Your Response:

LordReed:

5. Dumdum, you observe or measure the effects of the software!
If we blast you with questions now you'll start going from pillar post and not answer any.

You gave NOT a single HOW TO in question 5.

The Question again: Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?

LordReed:

Oya answer my own questions.
1. What is spirit?
2. What is the spiritual realm?
3. How can we obtain evidence of the existence of spirit and spiritual realm?
Just 3 [/b]questions o, let's see how you fumble. Bwahahahahaha!

LordReed:


I have answered your questions now answer mine.

I promise to answer ALL your questions BUT ONLY after you have answered my Unanswered Questions: except you want me [b]not to answer your own questions too. This is just fair!

Again:
These are the Questions you have not answered:
3. Can the software within a machine be "measured" or "quantified" by any physical means?
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?