AbuTwins:

Didn't you admit that there fight was politically motivated? You are a hypocrite!

So you mean your Allah can approve the killing of BELIEVERS when they have disputes due to political differences?
Please who is the SUPREME RULER of all Muslims globally?
Because if it's your Allah then what political reason could lead the adherents of the same SUPREME RULER to raise weapons against one another when they're all BELIEVERS (ADHERENTS) of his guidance?

MaxInDHouse:


So you mean your Allah can approve the killing of BELIEVERS when they have disputes due to political differences?

Where is the verse for that? Which did Allah approve?

Please who is the SUPREME RULER of all Muslims globally?

There is no supreme ruler! Allah is the ruler of all mankind!

Because if it's your Allah then what political reason could lead the adherents of the same SUPREME RULER to raise weapons against one another when they're all BELIEVERS (ADHERENTS) of his guidance?

Your premise that Allah is only the Muslim's supreme ruler is false!

AbuTwins:

Where is the verse for that? Which did Allah approve?

There is no supreme ruler! Allah is the ruler of all mankind!


Your premise that Allah is only the Muslim's supreme ruler is false!

If your Allah didn't approve the killing of its worshipers and your fellow Muslims in Iraq and Iran knew this very well then how come they are killing one another?

Please are you sure those fighting and killing themselves in Iraq and Iran that time were real Muslims?

Because if Allah is the true God why can't it's worshipers use what is found written in the word of their God to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves instead of resulting to killing one another thereby disobeying your Allah by killing Muslims (believers in Allah) or those fighting knows how to separate believers in Allah from among pagans in those two countries?

MaxInDHouse:

If your Allah didn't approve the killing of its worshipers and your fellow Muslims in Iraq and Iran knew this very well then how come they are killing one another?

You should show us where it was approved since you brought it up?

Please are you sure those fighting and killing themselves in Iraq and Iran that time were real Muslims?

We need you to tell us?

Because if Allah is the true God why can't it's worshipers use what is found written in the word of their God to settle their disparities peacefully among themselves instead of resulting to killing one another thereby disobeying your Allah by killing Muslims (believers in Allah) or those fighting knows how to separate believers in Allah from among pagans in those two countries?

We should always ask you why the Israelites were asked to kill themselves when they err in your Bible!

AbuTwins:
You should show us where it was approved since you brought it up?

If Allah didn't approve it's worshipers to kill it's believers then you should be able to present the believers in your Allah who are doing what is right by killing unbelievers but it seems your Allah is confused because right now you don't know why both Iraq and Iran two Muslim nations can't use the word of your Allah whom you claim is the supreme ruler to settle their differences!

AbuTwins:

We need you to tell us?

If you ask me i will tell you that there is no Allah it's just out of envy those Arabs fabricated something to make it look like they are worshiping a sane God. Because ordinary human ruler will never ever allow his or her subjects to fight against themselves since they are all under the same constitution (laws) the essence of laws is to help people settle matters without resorting to fighting talkless killing. So if those worshiping your Allah failed to resolve disputes among themselves then there is no evidence your Allah exists in the first place!

AbuTwins:

We should always ask you why the Israelites were asked to kill themselves when they err in your Bible!

Israelites were asked to kill those who turned against the orders of our SUPREME RULER not those adhering to the same laws nah!

MaxInDHouse:

If Allah didn't approve it's worshipers to kill it's believers then you should be able to present the believers in your Allah who are doing what is right by killing unbelievers but it seems your Allah is confused because right now you don't know why both Iraq and Iran two Muslim nations can't use the word of your Allah whom you claim is the supreme ruler to settle their differences!

Stop this folly! The war was as a result of territorial and political disagreements between two sovereign nations! I don't even think an hypocrite can understand. Your governing council must release a communique for you to believe it.

If you ask me i will tell you that there is no Allah it's just out of envy those Arabs fabricated something to make it look like they are worshiping a sane God. Because ordinary human ruler will never ever allow his or her subjects to fight against themselves since they are all under the same constitution (laws) the essence of laws is to help people settle matters without resorting to fighting talkless killing. So if those worshiping your Allah failed to resolve disputes among themselves then there is no evidence your Allah exists in the first place!

But when you translate the Bible to Arabic you still use the name "Allah" to deceive the gullible! If the name "Allah" doesn't exists why did Jw.org translate the Qur'an to Arabic and use the same "Allah" that does not exist for Jehovah?
You are a hypocrite sir!

Israelites were asked to kill those who turned against the orders of our SUPREME RULER not those adhering to the same laws nah!

Israel always have the right to kill others without blame. Apart from Israel who else did Jehovah ordered to kill others?

Jehovah of Israel!

AbuTwins:
Stop this folly! The war was as a result of territorial and political disagreements between two sovereign nations! I don't even think an hypocrite can understand. Your governing council must release a communique for you to believe it.

Are both sovereign nations worshipers of your Allah the supreme ruler?
Do they believe in your so called holy Quran?
If so why can't they use the word of your Allah to resolve their differences peacefully?

AbuTwins:

But when you translate the Bible to Arabic you still use the name "Allah" to deceive the gullible! If the name "Allah" doesn't exists why did Jw.org translate the Qur'an to Arabic and use the same "Allah" that does not exist for Jehovah? You are a hypocrite sir!

The word Allah simply means God so if your Allah failed to ensure peace among its worshipers then your Allah (god) doesn't exist.
That's what i'm saying!

AbuTwins:

Israel always have the right to kill others without blame. Apart from Israel who else did Jehovah ordered to kill others?
Jehovah of Israel!

Jehovah ordered Israelites to destroy enemies of pure worship not practicers of pure worship so if your Allah can't see reasons why its worshipers shouldn't fight against themselves then your Allah is unreasonable!

MaxInDHouse:

Are both sovereign nations worshipers of your Allah the supreme ruler?
Do they believe in your so called holy Quran?
If so why can't they use the word of your Allah to resolve their differences peacefully?

We should ask you if both countries uses the Shariah of Islam to rule their countries first!

The word Allah simply means God so if your Allah failed to ensure peace among its worshipers then your Allah (god) doesn't exist.
That's what i'm saying!

Allah does not just mean "God" in Islam! Why use it when Allah is not your own form of God?

Jehovah ordered Israelites to destroy enemies of pure worship not practicers of pure worship so if your Allah can't see reasons why its worshipers shouldn't fight against themselves then your Allah is unreasonable!

Apart from Israelites who else did Jehovah command to kill others?

Is that not what Israel is doing today and quoting the same Amalekite verses? God of Israel!

AbuTwins:
We should ask you if both countries uses the Shariah of Islam to rule their countries first!

So Iraq and Iran aren't Muslim nations anymore?

AbuTwins:

Allah does not just mean "God" in Islam! Why use it when Allah is not your own form of God?

Guy Allah is not a name but title "GOD" so don't raise another topic otherwise you have to explain why the call to Salat was only translated as "God" each time Allah is mentioned!

AbuTwins:

Apart from Israelites who else did Jehovah command to kill others? Is that not what Israel is doing today and quoting the same Amalekite verses? God of Israel!

The true God had no business with other nations so whatever they're doing has nothing to do with Him. Today the geographical location called Israel has nothing to do with the God of Abraham again since the nation as a whole is no longer there.
The nation God promised has twelve tribes but by the time Jesus walked the earth only two remained in Judea and after Jesus the nation was destroyed along with its temple and escapees ran far off from that place.

So if anyone is claiming Israel in that place today they are liars because the God of Abraham has no business with them after they rejected the Messiah!

AbuTwins:
God is Omniscient!

For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things. 1 John 3:20
Great is our Lord and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit. Psalm 147:5
Do you not know? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary; His understanding is beyond searching out. Isaiah 40:28

Laying out the cards!
There are two Bible verses that proves the Holy Spirit is NOT Omniscient (i.e. does not know all things hence not God)!

1. Matthew 24:36 (NIV): "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
2. Mark 13:32 (NIV): "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

From the above verses, we see that Jesus despite being 100% God + 100% man (as some Christians claim) is not Omniscient!
We also see most importantly that ONLY the father knows all things. ONLY the father is omniscient!

So how is the Holy Spirit God?

Apostle Paul tried to correct the above after Jesus with:
"For who knows a person's thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God." 1 Corinthians 2:11 (NIV)

But this falls short as Jesus already made the claim that NO ONE KNOWS THE HOUR BUT THE FATHER!

So Apostle Paul was wrong that the Spirit knows the thoughts of God and this is a contradiction to what Jesus said!

So which Bible verse(s) proves without ambiguity that the Spirit is God Omniscient?

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AND IN THEM IS FULFILLED THE PROPHECY OF ESAIAS, WHICH SAITH, BY HEARING YE SHALL HEAR, AND SHALL NOT UNDERSTAND; AND SEEING YE SHALL SEE, AND SHALL NOT PERCEIVE:
FOR THIS PEOPLE'S HEART IS WAXED GROSS, AND THEIR EARS ARE DULL OF HEARING, AND THEIR EYES THEY HAVE CLOSED; LEST AT ANY TIME THEY SHOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES, AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS, AND SHOULD UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEARTS, AND SHOULD BE CONVERTED, AND I SHOULD HEAL THEM.
Matthew 13:14,15

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AND IN THEM IS FULFILLED THE PROPHECY OF ESAIAS, WHICH SAITH, BY HEARING YE SHALL HEAR, AND SHALL NOT UNDERSTAND; AND SEEING YE SHALL SEE, AND SHALL NOT PERCEIVE:
FOR THIS PEOPLE'S HEART IS WAXED GROSS, AND THEIR EARS ARE DULL OF HEARING, AND THEIR EYES THEY HAVE CLOSED; LEST AT ANY TIME THEY SHOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES, AND HEAR WITH THEIR EARS, AND SHOULD UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEARTS, AND SHOULD BE CONVERTED, AND I SHOULD HEAL THEM.
Matthew 13:14,15

What's the context of this verses?
And how is it applicable here?

AbuTwins:


What's the context of this verses?
And how is it applicable here?

Lol exactly what I expected you to ask!

itzadorable333:

Lol exactly what I expected you to ask!

when you quote a verse disregarding the context...

AbuTwins:


when you quote a verse disregarding the context...

....of what YOU know absolutely nothing about, need to stop short. And read it again, slowly.