kokoye: This thread was created solely to bash people outside of Nigeria. I wonder why.

Is it a crime to choose to live elsewhere?

Some bash on you because you live outside of naija while you are here working hard to take care of your family both here and back home in Naija.

The funny thing is if you say you want to move back home, the same exact people will start beefing you..saying you shouldnt expect you can use your 'fake degree and phonetics' to get jobs when you return.

I wonder what we really want.

HATE for your fellow man.

No wonder it is difficult to grow and advance in life.

Cant we all just get along??

werepeLeri:

Advice from a person like u? U are a clown.

Why not leave me and them to tackle ourselves on the numerous lies they spew?

werepeLeri:

Rubbish. Retardeen.

kokoye: This thread was created solely to bash people outside of Nigeria. I wonder why.

Is it a crime to choose to live elsewhere?

Some bash on you because you live outside of naija while you are here working hard to take care of your family both here and back home in Naija.

The funny thing is if you say you want to move back home, the same exact people will start beefing you..saying you shouldnt expect you can use your 'fake degree and phonetics' to get jobs when you return.

I wonder what we really want.

HATE for your fellow man.

No wonder it is difficult to grow and advance in life.

Cant we all just get along??

Life is not a bed of roses anywhere. We have to try to work hard and with God our our side, there is hope.

dayokanu:

Wetin you want again

They said they are enjoying you say na lie.

They said they are suffering you say na lie

Dem say dey are dying you saying na lie.

OK We dont exist. No Nigerian exist in diaspora.

Are you ok now?

deshclones:

Shut up dat gutter u call a mouth...naija's crime rate is a dot when compared to what happens abroad esp d u.s..d only unsafe place in naija is d north..we in d south run things wella..we roll anytime we deem fit..day or midnight...how on earth will anyone in his right state compare naija nd u.s in terms of crime?..so u r dis silly?..tot ur only problem was being a bigot..

dayokanu:

Another example in Lagos. Now tell me what Ayotunde Aliu did wrong

https://www.nairaland.com/1011446/seen-ayotunde-aliu/1

Donxavier:

I have never been out of the country, except to Ghana, Benin Republic and Togo for a few weeks. But I have a lot of rich uncles that all say the same thing(They all work in Multinationals). And that's that no comfortable Nigerian earning a decent wage should relocate abroad. All these uncles of mine all travel like mad, have been to more than 25 countries and stayed in almost all continents for a short while during work. They all feel it's better to be in Nigeria even with all the NEGATIVES. I also have Uncles permanently residing abroad, some in Canada,Uk,US and Hong Kong. They are not better off than those that stayed in Nigeria. Infact my naija uncles are richer than those Abroad. Now, Don't get me wrong. This is an extremely personal situation and I'm not generalising for everybody or implying that all Nigerians should stay in Nigeria. I know most people don't work in Multinationals or earn a decent wage. As such, Abroad may be better. But it SEEMS to me that if you can survive Naija hustle, then there really is no place like home. They all say they are freer back in Nigeria, They have a sense of fulfilment and Nothing beats being successful in Your Own Nation. I seem to think they should know better and I'm leaning towards that line of thought too. I repeat this isn't meant to apply for everybody, I understand that there are different strokes for different folks, this is a personal situation. But Just my thoughts anyway.

Donxavier:

I have never been out of the country, except to Ghana, Benin Republic and Togo for a few weeks. But I have a lot of rich uncles that all say the same thing(They all work in Multinationals). And that's that no comfortable Nigerian earning a decent wage should relocate abroad. All these uncles of mine all travel like mad, have been to more than 25 countries and stayed in almost all continents for a short while during work. They all feel it's better to be in Nigeria even with all the NEGATIVES. I also have Uncles permanently residing abroad, some in Canada,Uk,US and Hong Kong. They are not better off than those that stayed in Nigeria. Infact my naija uncles are richer than those Abroad. Now, Don't get me wrong. This is an extremely personal situation and I'm not generalising for everybody or implying that all Nigerians should stay in Nigeria. I know most people don't work in Multinationals or earn a decent wage. As such, Abroad may be better. But it SEEMS to me that if you can survive Naija hustle, then there really is no place like home. They all say they are freer back in Nigeria, They have a sense of fulfilment and Nothing beats being successful in Your Own Nation. I seem to think they should know better and I'm leaning towards that line of thought too. I repeat this isn't meant to apply for everybody, I understand that there are different strokes for different folks, this is a personal situation. But Just my thoughts anyway.

aribisala0:

Money or being rich is not everything.
Though that mentality is entrenched in Nigeria but the problem is the best are not rewarded. So quite often this "hustle" as you call it is just criminality and the general Nigerian mentality is warped.
"Hustle" means forging certificates,cheating in exams,fake yellow fever documents to such an extent that the average Nigerian sees such behaviour as normal and often wonders why everyone hates him when he goes abroad.Celebrating criminals like Ibori as "EXCELLENCY"

Sometimes you want the opportunity to grow and excel.Even for a footballer or other sportmen Nigeria is not the best environment even if you remove money. Are our sports developing? Not to talk about professions like medicine,engineering,IT etc there just aren't the opportunities to raise your game to the highest level.
i can say with confidence that a lot of the medicine practice in Naija is not much better than witchcraft. Remember Patrice Muamba? In Nigeria he would be toast
We used to have the best doctors and professors in the 70s and 80s but we treated them badly not different from Fashola and the doctors. When your brightest see that you deploy the machinery of state against them to destroy them because of conflict you score an own goal because they will leave and you are left with mediocrity. This recent conflict with doctors will cost Nigeria VERY dearly but who cares those with money will "JET OUT"

Achebe,Okri,Adichie and many others of our best writers have left why? It is not always money.When a state like Anambra would honour the likes of Uba above Achebe you know something is wrong.I know so many of my mates in Nigeria who spend on most days what I spend in the UK in a month, no kidding, but I still believe I have a better quality of life generally and yes it is a fact,people die younger in Nigeria.

Yes you want to be in your own country but the truth is Nigeria is not yet a country.It is still making up its mind what it wants to be and that is the difference from even small countries like Jamaica,their identity is settled.Look at all the hate on this site and elsewhere.What is inevitable is before our nationhood is settled we shall still fight at least one very bloody war and not everyone wants to be a part of that.
If you have kid with disability in Nigeria eg how do you educate them I know one writer(i forget his name) left to America for that reason.
Why is it that till tomorrow even the most basic engineering work in Nigeria is done by white men ? Maintaing bridges,national asembly,power plants etc and they will never transfer the skills.
All these so-called successful Nigerians in Multinationals might make money but they are not acquiring skills from Oyinbo to the extent that the cooks on FPSOs are white why? Those that would talk are kicked out and replaced by "hustlers" ,not all but mostly, whose idea of doing well is money even if they sell their children's future

Donxavier:

Well being rich is most things lol, but I share your sentiments. Maybe it's because I'm still young so I rate making money very highly. It's true that the Nigerian environment isn't a conducive place for varied kinds of personal development. As such one has to go abroad to be able to get to the peak in some careers, and enjoy life to some level. But what about home? As someone rightly said Nigeria can only be built by Nigerians. I agree that finding ourselves as a Nation may involve bloodshed before things are put in proper shape, but what other way is available? From my little experience I know I'm more bolder in my Father's house than My Uncles and these are uncles that love me and treat me well. But am still not totally free there, why? Cos it's not my House. There is truly no place like home. For Nigerians born and bred abroad, then abroad is Home to them and there's nothing wrong in that. You can't choose where you are born, but at least when you are off age you can at least identify with your roots and give back in your own little way. After all there must be a reason why we were born here and not elsewhere? Or why are parents were born here.

ernestleon: Dont cry because you were refused a visa and banned for life.It hurts you when it comes to your mind that you havnt exceed the Nigerian border.

Donxavier:

I'm off to Aberdeen next month for my Master's programme. I hope that gives you some perspective.

Donxavier:

Well being rich is most things lol, but I share your sentiments. Maybe it's because I'm still young so I rate making money very highly. It's true that the Nigerian environment isn't a conducive place for varied kinds of personal development. As such one has to go abroad to be able to get to the peak in some careers, and enjoy life to some level. But what about home? As someone rightly said Nigeria can only be built by Nigerians. I agree that finding ourselves as a Nation may involve bloodshed before things are put in proper shape, but what other way is available? From my little experience I know I'm more bolder in my Father's house than My Uncles and these are uncles that love me and treat me well. But am still not totally free there, why? Cos it's not my House. There is truly no place like home. For Nigerians born and bred abroad, then abroad is Home to them and there's nothing wrong in that. You can't choose where you are born, but at least when you are off age you can at least identify with your roots and give back in your own little way. After all there must be a reason why we were born here and not elsewhere? Or why are parents were born here.

ernestleon: @donxavier
Secondly what are you going to do in scotland? I thought leaving Nigeria is the worst thing that could happen to a nigerian youth.Hipocracy and wicked,you make people believe traveling abroad is a step backward while you are trickly leaving the same Nigeria for a Masters degree.
NOTE:I wasnt refering to you in my first post but you brought yourself into the picture.Thank goodness you revealed that you were travelling to Aberdeen which made me wonder why didnt you do your Msc in a Nigerian Uni?

Donxavier: @Ileke

Offcourse that can't be everybody's feeling. There will be some people who are very satisfied with their lives abroad, and may probably have been doing worse if at home. But what is your own contribution to your Fatherland? It's your country too, even if you have dual citizenship. The way many people talk here is baffling. It's like having a lot of problems in one's own family, and you prefer to identify with another family, Instead of doing all that is possible to restore order to your family. That's how most Nigerians in the diaspora behave.

*Ileke-IdI:


Your questions have nothing to do with your previous post.
You claim that a large majority of Nigerians are suffering abroad based on your "uncles" stories.

How are people talking? Posting stories of how they've made it abroad is now a crime?

Donxavier:

I never said a large majority of people are suffering abroad. I said my uncle's feel that if you can make it in Nigeria it's better you remain here. I also have uncles that permanently reside abroad and they are comfortable too. I said they feel that any Nigerian earning a decent wage shouldn't relocate abroad. I don't mean shouldn't travel at all, I mean shouldnt move permanently outside the country and live elsewhere.

CyberG:

Much better than a system run by retardeen Goatlock for sure and whose shaite is licked by lapdogs like the OP. In a system that works, not chaotic like odechukwu's Nigeria, you will not cope you will actually excel without any connections or boyboyism. Get an education, work as hard and smart as you can in whatever you do, you will be able to afford and have everything you need and get even the things you want while keeping your dignity and humanity. You will not have or need millions of dollars in your account like sellouts like the OP who help to rip off the patrimony of their fatherland to feather their individual nests but you will have enough and more depending on your talent, hard work, dedication and focus.

You will have good roads to drive almost everywhere you turn, healthcare that will take care of the smallest injury to the most life threatening ones without needing to travel to another country, buy or rent a good house / apartment, buy a very good car, take trains or buses, never have to worry that someone might bomb you and your leaders will do nothing but brag, get the latest electronics, travel to any part of the planet without needing to die at the embassy applying for visa, if you lose your job you never need to be an eye-servicer like OP to survive because your employment insurance benefits kick in for several months, enough to find another job, you can wake-up everyday and have peace and a clear conscience not those seared with hot irons like that in an environment where the quality of life is determined by how many billions you have looted of the country's wealth. All these you can do without carrying a credit card debt and be in control of your life. You will not need USELESS PRAYERS for NEPA to bring light, or BH or defend a good for nothing foolishe leader like Badluck Jonathan in order to get your own share of his N 1 B cassava bread handout! This is the real meaning of wealth and a good life not primitive acquisition!

Donxavier:

I never said a large majority of people are suffering abroad. I said my uncle's feel that if you can make it in Nigeria it's better you remain here. I also have uncles that permanently reside abroad and they are comfortable too. I said they feel that any Nigerian earning a decent wage shouldn't relocate abroad. I don't mean shouldn't travel at all, I mean shouldnt move permanently outside the country and live elsewhere.

love4ual: my advice for any one coming to america who is still below 25yrs of age is to go and study nursing whether male or female....................as a guy it was not easy for me to agree to study nursing but i decided to abandon my 300 level course at nnamdi azikiwe university to study nursing.....................the future looks brighter for me than ever.......

i will have my liscence sometime this yr .....but i am already doing fine in the health sector..................

with nursing you will have ur papers quickly.............the demand is so high that there is so much shortage in the major cities of the us........new york, california and texas......

being a nurse you can come to the united states quickly because you do not need labor certification..............they do not look at experience sometimes or where you are coming from or even legal status because there is so much shortage in the industry.................infact most of the philippines and indian nurses who work here in houston cannot even speak english properly and yet the are employed making about $5,000 or more monthly............................my sister works double shift and so makes about $9,800 monthly.......................

nursing certificate is the only certificate that is recognized in the usa irregardless of the country you are coming from.............most nursing agencies will pay for your accomodation, car and board exam....................once you pass and start working you will re-imburse them back.........

any other degree from nigeria is rubbish......

most nigerians in the us are not properly informed about the health sector in the us even though they know nurses are on top.........................some of the jobs are also dirty but when you see dollars your eye go open and you can do just anything...........

while some people are still going through tough times in the us....there future is much brighter if only they are exposed to the right information.............canada, the us and australia are very good........i will advice anybody not to travel to the uk.........is really tougher out there and my friends always tell me that we are the very lucky ones to have been in the states.........

pls forget other degree certificates from home........because it will never be recognized abroad..........

steve_101:

Your uncles are wicked,very wicked,ofcos they will say sad things about outside nigeria cos U̶̲̥̅̊ wanna ask them for some help or they simply don't wanna asist any one,I have an uncle like that,he went to the US 1999 and lives in DC,he will always say why not look for something to do at home one day I phoned him from Glasgow and he said WOW,"when are U̶̲̥̅̊ visiting me in the States"? He said this cos he felt I don't need his help any more,now he is claiming relationship ,wicked uncle, I ve been reading this post for so long,and nomatter how hard Lagos or Abuja is,its better than the village,people are making money in the village aint they?some have big shops some deals in cooking red oil,some are richer than people in abuja and lagos, BUT are they living a good quality life?is life all about money?so many replies here are quite sad,because people are making money in the village so does it mean village is better Biko stop comparing,

steve_101:

Your uncles are wicked,very wicked,ofcos they will say sad things about outside nigeria cos U̶̲̥̅̊ wanna ask them for some help or they simply don't wanna asist any one,I have an uncle like that,he went to the US 1999 and lives in DC,he will always say why not look for something to do at home one day I phoned him from Glasgow and he said WOW,"when are U̶̲̥̅̊ visiting me in the States"? He said this cos he felt I don't need his help any more,now he is claiming relationship ,wicked uncle, I ve been reading this post for so long,and nomatter how hard Lagos or Abuja is,its better than the village,people are making money in the village aint they?some have big shops some deals in cooking red oil,some are richer than people in abuja and lagos, BUT are they living a good quality life?is life all about money?so many replies here are quite sad,because people are making money in the village so does it mean village is better Biko stop comparing,