MacDaddy01: Hitory tells me that it was Arab Slave traders that brought Islam but some mulsims (*cough*....LagosShia) disagree.


Kano was a hotspot for trading slaves at the time. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade#Towns_and_ports_involved_in_the_slave_trade)
http://africanhistory.about.com/od/slavery/a/IslamRoleSlavery01.htm

Slaves were obtained through conquest, tribute from vassal states (in the first such treaty, Nubia was required to provide hundreds of male and female slaves), offspring (children of slaves were also slaves, but since many slaves were castrated this was not as common as it had been in the Roman empire), and purchase. The latter method provided the majority of slaves, and at the borders of the Islamic Empire vast number of new slaves were castrated ready for sale (Islamic law did not allow mutilation of slaves, so it was done before they crossed the border). The majority of these slaves came from Europe and Africa -- there were always enterprising locals ready to kidnap or capture their fellow countrymen.

Black Africans were transported to the Islamic empire across the Sahara to Morocco and Tunisia from West Africa, from Chad to Libya, along the Nile from East Africa, and up the coast of East Africa to the Persian Gulf. This trade had been well entrenched for over 600 years before Europeans arrived, and had driven the rapid expansion of Islam across North Africa

Trans-Saharan trade opens the way

The raids into the central Sahara by `Uqba ibn-Nafi` in 667, told by Ibn-`Abdalhakam, (1) opened the route to Kanem and Borno. In each town he raided `Uqba imposed a tribute of 360 slaves. From that time until the end of the 19th century, the central African trade route specialized in slaves taken from the hinterland of Borno

fellis: I have heard different accounts of how Islam came to Nigeria, some say through trade, some say through slavery and some say Jihad.
What does it matter how it came to Nigeria? Why is that a big deal?

fellis:
What does it matter how it came to Nigeria? Why is that a big deal?

fellis: I have heard different accounts of how Islam came to Nigeria, some say through trade, some say through slavery and some say Jihad.
What does it matter how it came to Nigeria? Why is that a big deal?

fellis: What is important to me is the message that the Religion teaches, not the wrongdoings of whoever brought it to Nigeria; assuming it was actually slave traders.
The castration you wrote of is not even permissible in Islam, mutilating people like that is forbidden and I believe LagosShia has discussed how Islam discourages slave trade to you before. I am not going to be fazed from being a Muslim because of the wrong deeds of slave traders. What matters to me is the contents of the religion, not the sins of its propagators, whoever they were.

fellis: What is important to me is the message that the Religion teaches, not the wrongdoings of whoever brought it to Nigeria; assuming it was actually slave traders.
The castration you wrote of is not even permissible in Islam, mutilating people like that is forbidden and I believe LagosShia has discussed how Islam discourages slave trade to you before. I am not going to be fazed from being a Muslim because of the wrong deeds of slave traders. What matters to me is the contents of the religion, not the sins of its propagators, whoever they were.

Cheers01:
1) Who said you were fazed? Lol guilty conscience! Fellis is shaken.

Cheers01:
3) Contents of a religion that regulates slavery? Please, tell me the punishment for slavery in the Quran. There is punishment for stealing and adultery, what is the punishment for slavery? Is slavery rebuked as an evil practice in the Quran.
Tell me the punishment for slavery in the Quran fellis. Tell me and I will become mulsim today. I will become a muslim and stop my foolish atheist ways

LagosShia: Spread of Islam in Western Africa

The spread of Islam in Africa began in the 7th to 9th century, brought to North Africa initially under the Umayyad Dynasty. Extensive trade networks throughout North and West Africa created a medium through which Islam spread peacefully, initially through the merchant class. By sharing a common religion and a common transliteralization (Arabic), traders showed greater willingness to trust, and therefore invest, in one another.[49] Moreover, toward the 18th century, the Nigeria based Sokoto Caliphate led by Usman dan Fodio exerted considerable effort in spreading Islam.

fellis:
Continue hallucinating.

Because you know it is not there, you declare that you will leave atheism if I show it to you.
Hadiths discouraging slavery are there but you insist that a ruling must be brought from the Qur'an. If those Hadith are not good enough for you then please remain an atheist. It is not by force.

fellis: You did that? I wasn't aware.
I doubt he's coming back, I think he got banned.

tiarabubu:


Emm...

Don't white wash the facts oh! What kind of "considerable effort" did Usman Dan fodio exert in spreading Islam?

This one that facts are dressed up in niceties. I thought I should chip in to say that efforts of Usman Dan Fodio in spreading Islam in Nigeria was holy war. Jihad. And of course, also the installation of a new trado - political system of governance across much of northern Nigeria that replaced traditional institutions with Fulani heads.

Just thought I should set the record straight.

Thanks

sman also spelled Uthman or Usuman, Arabic ʿUthmān Ibn Fūdī (born December 1754, Maratta, Gobir, Hausaland [now in Nigeria]—died 1817, Sokoto, Fulani empire), Fulani mystic, philosopher, and revolutionary reformer who, in a jihad (holy war) between 1804 and 1808, created a new Muslim state, the Fulani empire, in what is now northern Nigeria.

m.eb.com/topic/620352

tiarabubu: ^^^
Sorry, I know you hurt very bad to call people ashewo. I understand. Truth hurts but it must be told. Kpele.


Again let me correct you. Usman didn't just engage in jihad to "restructure muslims" (another nicety). He spread Islam to areas where they hitherto were not Muslims and consolidated his hold on the others.

How? By brutal WAR!

So you "restructure" Islam by beheading people? Wholesale destruction of culture? Replacing leadership with uthman's own brothers.?

Repent or die huh? Lol.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usman_dan_Fodio#section_2

tiarabubu: O hypocrite

How is war prosecuted? Is it a wrestling match? Or debate?

Don't make a fool of yourself please.

tiarabubu: Lol, is that your best reply?

Typical lagosshia, when cornered you rush to quote verses. how about facing the issues at hand for once?

See how you dey run from woman! Hehehehhehhe

LagosShia:

madam talk-talk,

the title of the thread is "how did islam come to nigeria".

is that what you're right now discussing?

fellis: I never knew tiarabubu was female. . . .