bashr8: lol they dont see it that way , they are blinded by oil unfortunately the oils is not benefiting anyone rather it has become a curse.

Onlytruth:

Exactly my point! (though in reverse). That is why I don't understand why a rational person who feels dominated and marginalized, would still go to war, or threaten war each time the "dominating group" mentions secession or wants to secede.

Isn't this a form of mental illness or retardation?

sheyguy:
Onlytruth, so did Southern Cameroun go to war to forcefully keep Igbos anywhere against their wish at any point in history? Or av they tried to discourage Igbo going outa Nigeria or Cameroun?

Onlytruth:

You only supported my position. Thank you! They seceded and joined French Cameroun (never mind what they want today). They took a RATIONAL action then.

Now, why did you fight to keep Igbos in Nigeria? Why do you still become combative anytime Igbos start talking about seceding from Nigeria?

Onlytruth:

Exactly my point! (though in reverse). That is why I don't understand why a rational person who feels dominated and marginalized, would still go to war, or threaten war each time the "dominating group" mentions secession or wants to secede.

Isn't this a form of mental illness or retardation?

Onlytruth:

I've basically meditated on Nigeria's history (especially the pre civil war and the civil war history); what I see shows a pattern of mental retardation.
From the North, if you read what Ahmadu Bello thought about Southerners, Easterners and Igbo, you would see that he was convinced that the North was being dominated by Southerners. The same goes to groups in the West that had to carpet-cross to ensure that they were not "dominated in their own land", never mind that the dominators were technocrats and seasoned politicians who could have elevated the average living standards of people in that region. The same happened in SW Camerouns (which led to their historic mistake of joining a French country), and to a some extent also happened (though partially) with Mid western and Eastern groups in the war against Biafra.
Some minority groups alleged the same "domination".
I personally believe that if Igbo were asked to form a country of their own with only Igboland, the Biafran war wouldn't have been fought at all, talkless of it lasting for almost three years.

So, why don't "the dominated" want their dominators to secede? Why do the dominated still panic at any signs of activities suggesting that the "dominating group" is planning to secede? We see it in Nairaland constantly.

So, what is going on?

Onlytruth:

You only supported my position. Thank you! They seceded and joined French Cameroun (never mind what they want today). They took a RATIONAL action then.

Now, why did you fight to keep Igbos in Nigeria? Why do you still become combative anytime Igbos start talking about seceding from Nigeria?

oduasolja:

its called dominoe theory fool. if one group leaves, then more than likely the other groups would leave, and then the north will be cut off from oil.

oduasolja:

nobody was fighting to keep the igbos in Nigeria.

the igbos were trying to steal minority land and we fought to liberate them from your biafra.

after all your biafra included their land , so we had to destroy it.

bashr8: confusionist , you fought what?who are the we? when you where crying that your own land were occupied by northern soldiers, your leaders cant even go out without hiding from them.

bashr8: some people are afraid of change and the unknown so they prefer to retain the status quo also shady and corrupt people/politicians including those of the ethnic group that want to secced might loose out so they make sure such things never happen , t[b]he rest are just mischievous kids like we see on nairaland that dont deserve attention[/b].

oduasolja:

nobody was fighting to keep the igbos in Nigeria.

the igbos were trying to steal minority land and we fought to liberate them from your biafra.

after all your biafra included their land , so we had to destroy it.

sheyguy:
Don't mind him, he threatened to start this thread because of another thread about Southern Cameroun voting against joining Nigeria which you started. What i actually expect him to deal with, was accusations from southern Camerounians that the Igbos where [b]dominating [/b]them through corrupt means, thus prompting their choice.

Their difficulties in obtaining appointments in public service were attributed to obstruction and public demands by senior Igbo clerks in government offices.

Akanbi_edu: Not to worry Igbotruth

As soon as Nigerian oil in ND is finished or no longer an important source of revenue, You will be allowed to go. Other Nigerians are equally eager to get rid of you. It's a mutual feeling bro.

PointB:

Lol,

So it's all about Niger Delta oil. Lazy mofos!

Akanbi_edu:

Yes it is, that is why Ojukwu went to war too. Not a bad thing though in my books, fights for resources are worthy fights.

Their difficulties in obtaining appointments in public service were attributed to obstruction and public demands by senior Igbo clerks in government offices.

PointB:

I see. So you went to war to steal SS oil from them?
We will watch as the 'shoeless fisherman' and his siblings from the creek take back what belongs to his people. Thank God the Deltans are seeing Yorubas today for what they are- oil thieves. I hope you guys are proud of the grand robbery you committed against the Niger Deltans.

How have you guys fared afterward? Fifty years after the heist, how come your part of the world look like caves, while your masters the hausa and fulani live like paupers, and have decided to bomb themselves into oblivion. Karma?

Akanbi_edu:

Yes it is, that is why Ojukwu went to war too. Not a bad thing though in my books, fights for resources are worthy fights.

PointB:

I see. So you went to war to steal SS oil from them?
We will watch as the 'shoeless fisherman' and his siblings from the creek take back what belongs to his people. Thank God the Deltans are seeing Yorubas today for what they are- oil thieves. I hope you guys are proud of the grand robbery you committed against the Niger Deltans.

How have you guys fared afterward? Fifty years after the heist, how come your part of the world look like caves, while your masters the hausa and fulani live like paupers, and have decided to bomb themselves into oblivion. Karma?

PointB:

I see. So OJUKWU went to war to steal SS oil from them?
We will watch as the 'shoeless fisherman' and his siblings from the creek take back what belongs to his people. Thank God the Deltans are seeing Igbos today for what they are - oil thieves. I hope you guys are proud of the grand robbery you committed against the Niger Deltans.

How have you guys fared afterward? Fifty years after the heist, how come your part of the world look like caves, while your masters the hausa and fulani live like paupers, and have decided to bomb themselves into oblivion. Karma?

PROUD-IGBO:


Akanbi, i see what you did up there ......quite witty, i'll give you that. But i'm sure if you were to ask the average 'clued-on' Niger Deltan, who are their problem and who has ruthlessly exploited their oil the most between Hausa/Fulani, Yoruba and Igbo, you'd be surprised at the answer you'll get; also i'm sure the likes of Saro Wiwa and Asari Dokubo (hindsight is a beautiful thing) would beg to differ.

PhysicsQED: First, my comment can be read two ways, and I meant for it to be interpreted both ways. I think you've figured out one of the interpretations based on the knee jerk reaction and the spiel that followed my suggestion that Africans are currently more nepotistic than other groups.

Second, Europe is divided mostly (but not exclusively or perfectly) along "ethnic" lines. So apparently those "inter-ethnic" wars you're referring to were for a reason.

Akanbi_edu:

Ojukwu tried to colonize the oil but failed. Somebody's got to share the spoil. My only regret is that Yoruba elites stayed neutral at first. Who the h-ell does that in the same country controlled by a military government? You are either with the Nigerian side or against, no room for neutrality in this case.

Onlytruth:

You only supported my position. Thank you! They seceded and joined French Cameroun (never mind what they want today). They took a RATIONAL action then.

Now, why did you fight to keep Igbos in Nigeria? Why do you still become combative anytime Igbos start talking about seceding from Nigeria?

dayokanu:

So when Biafran soldiers attacked Midwest and SWest what are the inhabitants supposed to do? Fold their hands and watch their land being run over?

No wonder they call Igbos Mor0ns

re@lchange:


after you recaptured your lands and even some minority lands in the east, why did you not stop there and tell igbo to leave nigeria

dayokanu:

I have always told you action and reaction are never equal. If you slap me I can break bottle on your head.

You invade my land, that means you had the first say, And I would have the final say on my own terms only

In WW2. After the Russians chased Germans out of their land why didnt they stop once the Nazi army were out of Russian territory, Why did they chase them into berlin and destroy the Budestag and the seat of the Reich