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“how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by TerryCarr(m): 7:54am On Sep 02, 2012 |
“HOW AFRICANS UNDER DEVELOP AFRICA ”the sad part is it is not to far from the truth ![]() 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by Gbawe: 8:19am On Sep 02, 2012 |
TerryCarr: the sad part is it is not to far from the truth It is indeed the truth. What is written below is what Africans themselves must first learn to discern and neutralise if we are to move forward. We can "neutralise" Africans under-developing Africa, if ordinary Africans learns to hold leader accountable , and insist they deliver, instead of making excuses for them. Ultimately, it is African leaders who, by far, fail Africans the most. While people and leaders in other parts of the world are making progress to improve their nations and people, Africans are deliberately making efforts to under develop Africa . Africa has been underdeveloped with the blood of Africans on the streets of Africa more by fellow Africans than anyone else. Shame! 2 Likes |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by TerryCarr(m): 8:26am On Sep 02, 2012 |
Gbawe:agreed 1 Like |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by LongOne1(m): 11:54am On Sep 02, 2012 |
Yeah, yeah, so we all know what is wrong, now what steps do we take? It’s easy to come up with statements like Gbawe’s, but what practical systems can we put in place to ensure we learn from the past to prevent our possibly bleak future? Suggestions or ideas, anyone? |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by PaulJohn1: 1:33pm On Sep 02, 2012 |
Long One: Yeah, yeah, so we all know what is wrong, now what steps do we take? It’s easy to come up with statements like Gbawe’s, but what practical systems can we put in place to ensure we learn from the past to prevent our possibly bleak future? I don't think it's a big deal that we Africans can't solve, but the people who govern we Africans are just too close to dumb. We africans see ourselves as enemy, won't think twice before making moves. Like a white S/African said, "we africans can't rule ourselves, and if we're given the opportunity we'll kill ourselves". Isn't it glaring it's true?! A good example of this is that of Sudan. This country was the Africas biggest country, which is not up to four states in some countries of over 30 states outside Africa. But turned against themselves, fought with themselves, killed themselves and was broken up. Isn't that shameful enough? Our people need orientation. We need to know the world doesn't end where we are. We need to learn from ours and others mistakes. We need to stop seeing ourselves as inferior. Of course it's getting late, but I wish we change before we finally lost it. |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by dasparrow: 1:41pm On Sep 02, 2012 |
Long One: Yeah, yeah, so we all know what is wrong, now what steps do we take? It’s easy to come up with statements like Gbawe’s, but what practical systems can we put in place to ensure we learn from the past to prevent our possibly bleak future? African leaders can start by not being string puppets to the west and her leaders. Africans leaders can start by putting the interest of their citizens first rather than the interest of the IMF, World Bank, UN and whoever else including themelves. Africans as a people can start by having some dignity and self respect and stop acting as if the white man is a 'demi god.' As Africans, we can start by loving and respecting ourselves and each other because no one will love and respect us if we don't love and respect ourselves. If we loved ourselves, we will put aside petty ethnic and cultural differences and squabbles and work together towards the betterment and progress of our people, our nations and the black African continent at large. I think that the biggest enemy of the black African is tribalism, lack of racial solidarity, self centeredness and greed. Tribalism and lack of racial solidarity hinders people from working together for their common good and like I always say, a house divided amongst or against itself can never stand. Self centeredness is the reason why our leaders don't care for the common man they rule over as long as they the leaders and their immediate family and friends are comfortable. They don't feel ashame when they travel abroad and see how other countries function quite well while the African countries they preside over are in shambles and reeking with poverty. Self centeredness and greed is what is causing our African leaders to see nothing wrong in plunging our countries into poverty while they loot our national wealth and store it up in bank accounts in western nations. As Africans, we need a complete change of mindset. We need to start loving ourselves, caring for one another, stop practicing self hate and having the back of other racial groups at the expense of our people; stop worshipping the west and her citizens, patronize black African businesses both at home and abroad, spend our holiday vacations in other countries around black Africa rather than spending our vacations in north america and europe thereby boosting their tourism industry while ours suffer. As Africans, we should not copy-copy everything the west does in terms of politics and leadership style because what works for them will or may not exactly work for us. We should encourage more trade partnerships with fellow black African countries and we should stop dancing to the tune of the white man's whistle. Our school curriculums should include African history from a young age because it's obvious we need to re-educate ourselves and remind ourselves of who we are and what great people we used to be before the europeans and arabs invaded Africa unannounced. By re-educating ourselves, we rid ourselves of inferiority complex and self hate which has become so prevalent amongst Africans and those who once descended from Africa. Our children should be watching African TV programming like it used to be back in the days when I used to watch 'Tales by moonlight' and Chinua Achebe's 'Things fall apart' as a child and not some stupid oyibo/western TV programming that glorifies all the unglorifiable. If we don't lift ourselves up, no one else will. Let's stop waiting for the white man to solve our problems because only we Africans can solve our own problems. The western nations are doing well because their leaders put their citizens' interest first. When are African leaders going to place the interests of their citizens' first over that of non black African foreigners? When? Enough said. 3 Likes |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by Chubhie: 3:03pm On Sep 02, 2012 |
You will notice that most of the aforementioned so called African leaders are strong men with raw power to do as they wished........ Africa needs strong institutions, not strong men - Barack Obama |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by Gbawe: 4:28pm On Sep 02, 2012 |
Long One: Yeah, yeah, so we all know what is wrong, now what steps do we take? It’s easy to come up with statements like Gbawe’s, but what practical systems can we put in place to ensure we learn from the past to prevent our possibly bleak future? Sometimes, some things can only follow after natural evolution complements deliberate efforts. I am talking of the sort of "natural evolution" that sees man gaining more useful intelligence because he is better read, more exposed, has more opportunities and has gained the lesson that must be learnt from the mistake of his fathers and forebears. I personally think Africans will naturally evolve enough politically to the extent we will make a decent job of leading ourselves. Leadership can rise up to be effective if the populace understand how to choose the most effective leaders, make minimum non-negotiable demands on such leaders and force them out if development is not seen. The "deliberate effort" aspect is the efforts of the most intelligent and learned Africans in society doing their best sensitizing the majority, instead of cynically exploiting and deliberately dividing them, of the concept that power is vested in the people. Once the majority is aware of its powers, it will check misrule, brazen corruption and leadership ineptitude fairly easily and consistently. This is what Africa needs the most to move forward i.e an aware populace not afraid to make demands or show ineffective leaders the door. We know for example that it is wrong for Nigeria , a very poor Nation, to currently exist under the bloated Governance in place currently. We know too that our federal structure is insincere and designed to enrich a small percentage of "leaders". The problem is that most Nigerians are not politically sophisticated enough to demand, with overwhelming majority action, that this must change. In most Nations of the world where the majority are politically sophisticated, hideous misrule and corruption, such as seen in Africa, will simply not be tolerated. The position of leaders become untenable very quickly if they stray too far from delivering in relation to the resources at their disposal. Once quality leaders begin to come in and succeed each other continuously, the system will evolve and we will see African nation enjoying decent leadership. This is even the case now with strong showings from some African Nations erstwhile written off as "Basket cases". From leading ourselves well at home, we will trade and deal with non-Africans more effectively. The key is getting the average African to be a politically sophisticated animal to the extent he will not stand for others misruling him. That is the job of evolution and everyone - especially the brightest plus best placed in society like leaders, scholars, social critic etc. |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by Callotti: 5:41pm On Sep 02, 2012 |
Nice reading. . . the truth and nothing but the gospel truth! So help me 'Okija shrine'! ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by Nobody: 6:03pm On Sep 02, 2012 |
Well said |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by pazienza(m): 1:32am On Sep 03, 2012 |
Nice thread,but i have to correct some misconceptions. I don't know about other african tribes,but i know that even before the barbaric hellenes migrated from central asia to displace the original people occupying the ancient land called grecce today, igbo tribes were already practicing democracy. The greeks might have given democracy to the rest of the world,but not to igbo tribes. 1 Like |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by TerryCarr(m): 9:56am On Sep 03, 2012 |
here are the Millennium Development Goals The Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) are eight international development goals that all 193 United Nations member states and at least 23 international organizations have agreed to achieve by the year 2015. The goals are:most African nations won't make them sad ![]() |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by TerryCarr(m): 1:11am On Sep 04, 2012 |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by TerryCarr(m): 10:02pm On Sep 10, 2012 |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by Nobody: 11:46pm On Sep 12, 2012 |
awesome thread terry. ![]() I own a book about the DRC and Mobutu called "In the Footsteps of Mr. Kurtz: Living on the Brink of Disaster in Mobutu's Congo" Man!!! That man right there? Straight up MADMAN!! ![]() Messed up what happened to P. Lumumba. The only thing remaining of that brother is a tooth which one of his Belgian friends keeps locked up and only showed once during an interview. ![]() ![]() That is what the man got for wanting to rid DRC and all of Africa of colonial influence. Murder and defamation by Belgians and some of the very Africans he tried to represent. SMH. This dictator attitude of the leaders MUST GO! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrW7KTQ3PVY These men are the cream of a large crop of megalomanic and psychotic 'leaders' that have plagued the African continent for the past forty years. The heartache, misery and suffering caused by these men is truly appalling. Paul Biya of Cameroon should have made that list. ![]() Africa needs to make men like them be just a thing of the PAST. Ppl need to start voting for leaders based on what they DO and not what they SAY or how they look. |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by Nobody: 11:49pm On Sep 12, 2012 |
THIS THREAD SHOULD MAKE FRONT PAGE!! Like seriously! 1 Like |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by akintun: 12:25am On Sep 13, 2012 |
I can't read dis now becos it is too long. D simple truth is dat Europeans are still under- developing African. We are in a trap and it would be very difficult 4 us to get out of it. African leaders are corrupt, and we would have been better off without dis corrupt leaders and greedy bankers, pension funds, and discount houses who milk d country daily. D Europeans make it extremely difficult 4 us to develop by borrowing us money at extremely high interest rate, and dey know dat no gov can succeed without borrowing. Just imagine if we can borrow money at d interest rate Europeans borrow. |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by TerryCarr(m): 12:27am On Sep 13, 2012 |
akintun: I can't read dis now becos it is too long. D simple truth is dat Europeans are still under- developing African. We are in a trap and it would be very difficult 4 us to get out of it. African leaders are corrupt, and we would have been better off without dis corrupt leaders and greedy bankers, pension funds, and discount houses who milk d country daily. D Europeans make it extremely difficult 4 us to develop by borrowing us money at extremely high interest rate, and dey know dat no gov can succeed without borrowing. Just imagine if we can borrow money at d interest rate Europeans borrow.you should ![]() |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by PhysicsQED(m): 2:49am On Sep 13, 2012 |
MsDarkSkin: Why is Felix Houphouet-Boigny on that list? Also Jonas Savimbi never ruled his country and he and his group were directly funded by the West. |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by TheDauraMallam: 9:47am On Jun 05, 2015 |
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Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by Nobody: 8:07am On Jun 21, 2021 |
We thought it was at it worst then, look at Africa now |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by IJOBA11: 9:30am On Jun 21, 2021 |
MTSEEEEEEEW I WAS EXPECTING TO HEAR YOUR INTERNALISTS AND EXTERNALISTS ARGUMENTS ![]() |
Re: “how Africans Under Develop Africa ” by ivolt: 9:36am On Jun 21, 2021 |
You have to be very blind to blame "whites" for Africa's predicaments. |
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