I'm a Christ follower but this thing has been bothering me for a while now. Christians believe in the existence of God through faith while Atheists believe God doesn't exist; but my question is, what if God evolved during or after the big s.lam, created universal laws, Angels in Heaven & gave life to the Earth? Doesn't it mean that God is an advanved scientist? If it's true then why not worship Him for giving you life? My Christian brothers & sisters I do not mean to blaspheme God's name & all but comprehensive opinions & clarifications from both Christians & Atheists would be appreciated. Thank you

If you had the faith of a 'mustard' seed, you would have stopped asking these kinds of questions. You have been given a 'blessed assurance' that 'jesus is yours'!


Please, head to the 'have you praised him today section'. . .for 'BELIEVERS' only. . .and stop being a 'DOUBTING THOMAS'!

Thank you!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5E1gWdW3P8

I don't understand why Christians keep asking questions ONLY UNBELIEVERS should be asking!

If you are confused. . .YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN.

Good question. however can the clay pot question the potter that made it ? but ermmm the existence of God is emphatically stamped positive. follow the sequence in the book of Revelation and match it to the history of the world. its flawless

@Calloti,Thanks for your advice; but I'm not confused or skeptical about the existence of God

obadiah777: Good question. however can the clay pot question the potter that made it ? but ermmm the existence of God is emphatically stamped positive. follow the sequence in the book of Revelation and match it to the history of the world. its flawless

But is it a sin to question the existence of your creator? Please answer with biblical references. Thanks

seriallink: I'm a Christ follower but this thing has been bothering me for a while now. Christians believe in the existence of God through faith while Atheists believe God doesn't exist; but my question is, what if God evolved during or after the big s.lam, created universal laws, Angels in Heaven & gave life to the Earth? Doesn't it mean that God is an advanved scientist? If it's true then why not worship Him for giving you life? My Christian brothers & sisters I do not mean to blaspheme God's name & all but comprehensive opinions & clarifications from both Christians & Atheists would be appreciated. Thank you

Look at it this way. If God evolves, that would be an outright concession that he changes. If he is to be considered as being an advanced scientist, then that is an admission of his ignorance. If he is so ignorant, then he obviously cannot be omnipotent. If he isn't omnipotent, why call that Christian God a God?

Callotti: If you had the faith of a 'mustard' seed, you would have stopped asking these kinds of questions. You have been given a 'blessed assurance' that 'jesus is yours'!


Please, head to the 'have you praised him today section'. . .for 'BELIEVERS' only. . .and stop being a 'DOUBTING THOMAS'!

Thank you!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5E1gWdW3P8

I don't understand why Christians keep asking questions ONLY UNBELIEVERS should be asking!

If you are confused. . .YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN.

God has no beginning and no end because God is unimaginable. The beginning and the end must be also unimaginable for an unimaginable item. The beginning and the end of the cosmic energy or space or the creation are also unimaginable. Therefore, the beginning and the end are unimaginable for the unimaginable item like God and also for the imaginable item like space. Therefore, the two points, which are the beginning-less and end-less characteristics cannot help you in understanding the real nature of God. If you start recognizing the God by simply these two points (beginning-less and end-less), you may think that God is an imaginable item like the space or energy or the creation. In fact based on these two characteristics people have imagined God as an imaginable item like space or energy or creation. This concept has misled people to such a low level that people think that God is the very infinite space or infinite energy or infinite creation. Therefore, one should filter the concept of God at this juncture itself. One should think that God has no beginning and no end because the beginning and the end of an unimaginable item are also unimaginable.

Such God desired to create this Universe for entertainment. The very desire itself is the Creation. In view of God this present materialized universe in only an idea or imagination or the very desire itself. Therefore, the desire to create the world is itself the desire and also the created world itself is a desire. Thus the creation, maintenance and dissolution of the imaginary world are also imaginations or desires. A part of this infinite creation is the individual soul. The soul is like a drop of the infinite ocean of imagination or desire of God. Thus, quantitatively the entire ocean of imagination of God is very huge compared to the tiny soul. Remember that both the Universe and the tiny soul are made of the same substance called as imagination or desire. Thus the force of the Universe is far greater than the force of the soul. Due to such huge quantitative difference of the same phase, the Universe, which is far stronger than the soul appears as a materialized entity for the soul. But this infinite ocean of desire, which is the infinite Universe is a tiny drop compared to the infinite force of God. Therefore, again due to the same quantitative difference of force the entire universe is just the very weak imagination from the view of God. Thus imagination and materialization exist simultaneously true from the point of God and soul.

For the sake of entertainment, God desired to create the Universe. This statement is in Veda (Sa dviteeya Maicchat). In this statement there is a very subtle intermediate stage, which is the essence of the desire to create the Universe. The desire to create the world is like the golden ornament but the essence of such desire is like the raw gold in which the ornament is not yet expressed. Such raw essence of the desire is pure awareness. The pure awareness is a special subtle form of energy, which is not qualified by any form. Such pure awareness is called as the spirit, which is not qualified and does not have any attribute. This is called as “Nirguna Brahman”, which means the pure awareness, which has no reference to the creation of the universe. It is a very critical and subtle point to recognize the pure awareness. Veda says that only very very sharp intelligence can grasp that critical state (Drushyate Tvagraya bhuddhya). Sankara, the topmost genius among the spiritual preachers could grasp that state and proposed the concept of Nirguna Brahman or non-qualified pure awareness. Such pure awareness is the first creation of God (Parabrahman). This first creation is almost as critical and unimaginable as the very Parabrahman itself. The only difference is that Parabrahman is absolutely unimaginable for any sharp intelligence, but this pure awareness is imaginable only for a very sharp intelligence. This pure awareness is called as Mula Prakriti or Suddha Sattvam or Mula Avidya or Mula Maya or the Spirit in general. The Parabrahman maintains such spirit and it is only an associated item and is the first created item. The word Mula means the first. This spirit is in the form of knowledge. It is aware of itself, which means that it is knowledge. Knowledge requires both subjective and objective characteristics. It is subject as well as the object. Therefore, it is called as knowledge or Sattvam. This knowledge is the first form of energy.

Energy is always active. Action is the characteristic of Rajas. Such Spirit is unaware of its own creator who is the God. Therefore, it is having ignorance or Tamas. Thus, the Knowledge itself is action and ignorance. According to Gita Knowledge is Sattvam (Sattvaat Sanjayate Jnanam), action is Rajas (Rajah Karmani) and Ignorance is Tamas (Tamastva Jnanajam). Thus these three qualities are always inseparable. The pure knowledge (Suddha Sattvam) itself is pure action (Suddha Rajas), which is the pure ignorance (Suddha Tamas). Thus in the very first instant itself the three qualities are created simultaneously in the purest state. Since all these three co-exist, it is called as equilibrium of the three qualities. When the equilibrium is disturbed various items of awareness result in which the three qualities exist in various proportions. Such disturbance of the equilibrium resulting in various distorted items of the three qualities is the very creation. The various mixtures of these three qualities constitute this diversified universe, which is meant for the play of the God and for His entertainment. When the entertainment is over all the three qualities go into the equilibrium state. Thus the Universe is converted into Mula Prakruti.

Why worship "him" for giving life? Don't you know that by "his" giving of life, "he" has also given himself life? Should he be worshiping the creations who gave "him" and are still giving "him" life, then? I say nobody has to worship anybody because that is just ego tripping and nothing more. All we need to do, including the creator, is to EVOLVE. That is all that is required of all creations and the creator included, EVOLVE.

Worshiping of any sort or of anything is time wasting endeavor. Unless we want to term natural evolution, both physical and spiritual, as the true worship.

seriallink: I'm a Christ follower but this thing has been bothering me for a while now. Christians believe in the existence of God through faith while Atheists believe God doesn't exist; but my question is, what if God evolved during or after the big s.lam, created universal laws, Angels in Heaven & gave life to the Earth? Doesn't it mean that God is an advanved scientist? If it's true then why not worship Him for giving you life? My Christian brothers & sisters I do not mean to blaspheme God's name & all but comprehensive opinions & clarifications from both Christians & Atheists would be appreciated. Thank you

^^^^ By giving us life, He has given Himself life too? Could you please explain more? What if His purpose for creating us is to worship Him? Would you still say NO because you feel it's slavery? Thankx for your contribution though

thehomer:

Look at it this way. If God evolves, that would be an outright concession that he changes. If he is to be considered as being an advanced scientist, then that is an admission of his ignorance. If he is so ignorant, then he obviously cannot be omnipotent. If he isn't omnipotent, why call that Christian God a God?

Well said; but the Bible says God is immutable, so, I guess evolution is out of the equation~ Thanks

Very simple to explain. Having giving us life, we gave "him" life by acknowledging "his" existence and maintaining that acknowledgement in our minds where "he" survives and lives. Without this acknowledgement of "his" existence by us, "he" dies, vanishes, disappears, seizes to exist. No praise for him; no worship for him; no name giving to him; no pronoun apportioning to "him"; no "HIM". "He" just won't exist. He dies. Get it?

seriallink: ^^^^ By giving us life, He has given Himself life too? Could you please explain more?

Then he would be a very very poor deity, indeed. A complete loser of a deity who feels he has to be worshiped to have any value. I personally do not believe that the CREATOR is such. Therefore, all deities who demand worship are FAKE.

seriallink: What if His purpose for creating us is to worship Him?

To the true CREATOR, every action of it's creations must be to further evolution at every level possible and the act of worshiping is not, imo, such and act. To the true CREATOR, it's not about itself and it's own EGO, but about the evolution of the all. The true CREATOR is, in my view, an EGO-LESS entity and not the egomaniac on the Judaic, biblical and Koranic scriptures. Nothing is about itself only.

seriallink: Would you still say NO because you feel it's slavery? Thankx for your contribution though

^^^^Hmmmmm, Interesting explanation!

seriallink: ^^^^ By giving us life, He has given Himself life too? Could you please explain more? What if His purpose for creating us is to worship Him? Would you still say NO because you feel it's slavery? Thankx for your contribution though

Then he would create mindless drones to worship him day and night and not give us the mind to think.

We are not here to worship any being(supernatural or otherwise) The whole god concept originated from when men worshipped kings and wondered what it would be like with the "creator" of the universe (since they had no answers). Hence they invent an all powerful, all knowing, all loving, king of everything, invincible being to worship endlessly and sacrifice everything to.

We dont need that anymore in the 21st century. No one worships any king anymore, why don't we extend that gesture to the god we created? (in our image and likeness)