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Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Fr0sbel: 9:07am On Sep 03, 2012


These should be obvious, but the truth is the MAJORITY of Christians have swallowed many a lie. How simple and easy it should be for a person who reads the Bible to see the obvious traditions and practices of Christianity which HAVE NOT A SINGLE VERSE to support them.

Yet the majority of Christians willingly accept the following as "Christian". Many of these subjects are further developed in articles on this site. In order to help you think in scriptural terms, here is a short list of unscriptural practices within apostate Christianity:

"add thou not unto His Word lest He reprove thee and thou be found a liar" "that ..ye might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; ..." -1Cor 4:6


It is impossible to show these as a verse or phrase in our Bibles:


1. "Accept Christ as personal saviour" spoken in scripture

2. "ALTAR CALL" as a response to the gospel

3. a. "Pastor": used as a formal title. For example: "Pastor Smith", "Pastor Larry" .....

b. "Senior" Pastor, "Associate" Pastor, or "Assistant Pastor"

c. "Rabbi" (Mat.23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your teacher, and all ye are brethren.

d. "Chaplain". Have you ever read of one in your Bible?

4. Any woman named in any TITLED position (for example "Pastor Mary", "Prophetess Sue" ) teaching or having authority over a man. (none of the named elders of scripture were women).
The Greek word for pastor is "poimen" a masculine noun. You would never call a man a "prophetess" or a queen, feminine nouns. The same applies for the office of "pastor", a masculine noun.

5. "Service", "church service" "our service is at..." as used to describe a gathering of Christians

6. female angels. (whoops! folks seem to find them in this world but there is not even one mentioned in all the scripture!)

7. Fundraiser, raffle, auction, bake sale, food sales, Church sponsored businesses like thrift shops.

8. a. The Church Board
b. "membership" "voting member", or formalized "member" of a church assembly.

9. CLERGY Robes, vestments, formal church attire that distinguishes from others in the body of Christ.

10. Christians tithing

11. A "Worship Leader"

12. Church record keeping of who gave an amount

13. elders submitting to a pastor as a form of church government

14. the "church" instructed to: buy property, have a "building fund", or "building program".

15. a programmed church "service". i.e.: prayer, 3 songs, offering, sermon, closing prayer.

16. Positions of overseership. (superintendents, Districts, Stakes, Wards, etc.)

17. The "Sinners Prayer" as a rote or liturgical response to the gospel.

18. A Pulpit

19. Christians celebrating Christmas, Easter, HELLoween, or Sunday becoming the Sabbath.

20. a "Song Service"

21. A Church Choir

22. Sunday School (Sabbath school)

23. "Spiritual Covering" by a pastor or hierarchy.

24. Any "church" referred to as the "Storehouse".

25. Prayer or homage to Mary, any "saint", Rosary, or statue.

26. Cardinal, Pope, "Your Eminence", or "Father" used to address any Christian.

27. Purgatory

28. The Mass

29. Lent

30 Prayers for the dead.

31. The phrase "God uses doctors"

32. "Repeat after me...." as in "leading" someone in prayer.

33. Pastors given a "vision" for the church.

34. Pledges, promissary oaths, swearing to perform an action such as a fundraiser or allegiance.

35. Anything resembling patriotism to a kingdom of this world.

36. Any "clergy" titles: "Doctor", "Prophet", "Bishop", "Apostle", "Elder", "Pastor" "Co-pastor", "chaplain" "Associate Pastor", "Youth Pastor", "Reverend" (see Those Wonderful Titles " ) or the short article "Titles"

37. "God helps those who help themselves". -not in scripture..

38. Any church or saint directly instructed to "Keep the Sabbath" (as observed in the Old Covenant). see our article "How to REALLY Keep that Sabbath"

39. Any church or saint in the New Testament commanded to observe the Old Testament feasts.

40. Any church or saint in the New Testament being commanded to observe circumcision and/ or keep the Law of Moses.

41. Palm Sunday

42. Ash Wednesday

43. Easter (the word easter pertains to Ishtar, a pagan Babylonian goddess).

44. "worship" service. (find a mention of one in the New Testament)

46. "Voting" in a pastor

47. a LITURGY

48. Anyone taking "sacraments". False works give false assurance.

49. A parsonage (house) given to any pastor by a church.

50. The word "Trinity"
-one of the great sacred cows. A name invented by men never given in scripture. If you were a Christian living in 100 AD you would never had heard the word because it had not been invented yet. Anyone who simply reads the Bible for themselves without attending any Christian religion will not be leavened with the unscriptural word, "trinity". None of the writers of scripture ever used the term.

It is true, all the above are without a single verse in the New Testament scriptures and are red flag warnings of apostasy to one degree or another. That should alarm you and cause you to consider in Godly fear, all the warnings in scripture regarding "be not deceived", false teachers, false prophets, and the Nicolaitanes who serve the Harlot church, "Mystery Babylon the Great".


Men are real good at rationalizing, justifying, and explaining what they do that is contrary to God's Word.
Do NOT accept any "puffed up" human reasoning or explanation for continuing in an unscriptural religious practice. "that in us ye might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; that no one of you be puffed up for the one against the other."


Belief is as the scripture says, not tradition, not your priest, not your pastor, not the guy on TBN, not me, and not blind ignorance of God's Word. You are capable of hearing from God for yourself without me or anyone else trying to convert you to their way of thinking.
My job is to point you to the Bible to read it for yourself. We can teach the scriptures but only God gives revelation and understanding. The Lord is a much better instructor than me or anyone wearing an eccleastical title.

Apostasy from God's Word is exactly what the prophets confronted.

http://www.preparehisway.com/it_s_not_scripture_.html
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by PastorKun(m): 9:32am On Sep 03, 2012
God help us! Virtually all the popular church practises today across most dnominations are doctrines of men being presented as the word of God. May God open our eyes to serve him in truth and faith. The painful thing is that the commandment Jesus declared as the greatest and most important in the bible which is to 'Love others as ourselves' is either ignored or merely paid lip service to yet we call ourselves followers of christ. It's a real big shame on the so called churches and christian leaders.
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Delafruita(m): 9:36am On Sep 03, 2012
admittedly,most are human inventions,however,many on your list were either implied in the bible or modelled after a bible practice or occurence.

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Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Nobody: 10:05am On Sep 03, 2012
Delafruita: admittedly,most are human inventions,however,many on your list were either implied in the bible or modelled after a bible practice or occurence.

Modelling certain practices after obsolete Jewish rites is inconsequential and invalid as far as the new convent is concerned.

Our main role model is Christ and we are to model our behaviour and practices after HIM and his life style ALONE.

"For those God foreknew he also predestined[b] to be conformed to the likeness of his Son[/b], that he might be the firstborn among many brothers." - Romans 8:29
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Sweetnecta: 11:19am On Sep 03, 2012
^^^^ You killed your arguments in my fronts:

You quoted Romans as if that came from Jesus.
You failed to even imitate Jesus in a simple thing like marriage which takes no big effort.

by Fr0sbel: 9:07am



These should be obvious, but the truth is the MAJORITY of Christians have swallowed many a lie. How simple and easy it should be for a person who reads the Bible to see the obvious traditions and practices of Christianity which HAVE NOT A SINGLE VERSE to support them.

Yet the majority of Christians willingly accept the following as "Christian". Many of these subjects are further developed in articles on this site. In order to help you think in scriptural terms, here is a short list of unscriptural practices within apostate Christianity:

"add thou not unto His Word lest He reprove thee and thou be found a liar" "that ..ye might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; ..." -1Cor 4:6
when will you ever quote Jesus instead of other folks? please refer to red lettered bible. you may just find something we both agreed to likely from Jesus instead of the other guy.



It is impossible to show these as a verse or phrase in our Bibles:


1. "Accept Christ as personal saviour" spoken in scripture
the bold made my day. Allah has made your heart speak the truth. You should know that it is your right to embrace Islam. .
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Sweetnecta: 11:20am On Sep 03, 2012
^^^^ You killed your arguments in many fronts:

You quoted Romans as if that came from Jesus.
You failed to even imitate Jesus in a simple thing like marriage which takes no big effort.

by Fr0sbel: 9:07am



These should be obvious, but the truth is the MAJORITY of Christians have swallowed many a lie. How simple and easy it should be for a person who reads the Bible to see the obvious traditions and practices of Christianity which HAVE NOT A SINGLE VERSE to support them.

Yet the majority of Christians willingly accept the following as "Christian". Many of these subjects are further developed in articles on this site. In order to help you think in scriptural terms, here is a short list of unscriptural practices within apostate Christianity:

"add thou not unto His Word lest He reprove thee and thou be found a liar" "that ..ye might learn not to go beyond the things which are written; ..." -1Cor 4:6
when will you ever quote Jesus instead of other folks? please refer to red lettered bible. you may just find something we both agreed to likely from Jesus instead of the other guy.



It is impossible to show these as a verse or phrase in our Bibles:


1. "Accept Christ as personal saviour" spoken in scripture
the bold made my day. Allah has made your heart speak the truth. You should know that it is your right to embrace Islam. .
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by ijawkid(m): 11:27am On Sep 03, 2012
Lol....

See list.....

Its time to start cancelling each item,words,and doctrine on that list by sticking to what the bible really teaches.........

I think I'v erased almost all....
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by PastorAIO: 11:50am On Sep 03, 2012
And there is no Amala in the bible, so I really wonder about those so called christians that like to wack amala. I really wonder.
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Nobody: 11:52am On Sep 03, 2012
Sweetnecta:


the bold made my day. Allah has made your heart speak the truth. You should know that it is your right to embrace Islam. .

Acts 2
37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?

38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by wirinet(m): 12:12pm On Sep 03, 2012
Christianity (teachings of Christ) was supposed to be a social, economic and spiritual revolution. before Christ, philosophy of life centred around exploitative capitalism and despotic monarchy - both socially and religiously. God was at the apex of the herarchy, then you had a pyramid of priest in order of importance until you get to the common man at the base of the pyramid. So for the common man to reach God, he has to go through his local priest or religious leader, who takes his prayers to higher authorities until it gets to the supreme priest who then takes your supplications to God. The governments was also modeled in this way. To reach Caesar, you have to pass through a pyramid of representatives. That was how the pharisees and saduccees were structured.

But Christ's revolutionary teachings knocked down the structure, he teached that you do not need any intermediary to connect to God, that as far as God is concerned, no one is closer to God and everybody is at the same level.

This was a revolutionary teaching never seen before in the history of the world. The religious leaders were in an uproar for fear of losing power, privilege and control. The political leaders were afraid of such revolutionary thinking entering the political sphere: something had to be done to maintain the status quo. The new movement was first brutally suppressed, but when the revolution seemed to powerful to contain, Rome decided to modify, assimilate and adopt it, but in a control manner. Gradually they were able to kill the Christ revolution and build a new pyramid of new heirarchies. This became the new template for the Christian religion. The pope, bishop or G.O is said to be closest to God, while those under him derives authority for the head, while the masses at the base of the pyramid needs to go through the heirachy to get to the G.O to be able to reach God.

That is why I call Christianity the first socialist revolution that never was.

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Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Delafruita(m): 12:29pm On Sep 03, 2012
frosbel:

Modelling certain practices after obsolete Jewish rites is inconsequential and invalid as far as the new convent is concerned.

Our main role model is Christ and we are to model our behaviour and practices after HIM and his life style ALONE.

"For those God foreknew he also predestined[b] to be conformed to the likeness of his Son[/b], that he might be the firstborn among many brothers." - Romans 8:29
perhaps you should go about wearing a cassock,cursing fig trees and speaking rudely to your mother.while at it,hurl unsults like "sons of vipers" and whip people at will
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Nobody: 12:50pm On Sep 03, 2012
Delafruita:
perhaps you should go about wearing a cassock,cursing fig trees and speaking rudely to your mother.while at it,hurl unsults like "sons of vipers" and whip people at will


Maybe I should grin

May God open your blinded eyes !
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by plappville(f): 1:50pm On Sep 03, 2012
Your list is even small if we are really to mention all the forgery names used in todays church. I so much agree with you that many convert get flowed with the system since they have to do like others. Until one start doing daily study of the bible, He/She will continue to flow with this fake system.

Anyway, i think not all you listed were not Used in the bible. Pastor, Service, Worship are used in the Bible. But maybe the wrong use if it today is what should be retified.

Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship.

Jer 17:16 As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day; thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right before thee.

[s]And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall sey you free.[/s]
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by plappville(f): 1:51pm On Sep 03, 2012
Pastor Kun: God help us! Virtually all the popular church practises today across most dnominations are doctrine of men being presented as the word of God. May God open our eyes to serve him in truth and faith. The painful thing is that the commandment Jesus declared as the greatest and most important in the bible which is to 'Love others as ourselves' is either ignored or merely paid lip service to yet we call ourselves followers of christ. It's a real big shame on the so called churches and christian leaders.

You have spoken WORDS!!!!!
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by plappville(f): 1:54pm On Sep 03, 2012
Sweetnecta: ^^^^ You killed your arguments in many fronts:

You quoted Romans as if that came from Jesus.
You failed to even imitate Jesus in a simple thing like marriage which takes no big effort.

when will you ever quote Jesus instead of other folks? please refer to red lettered bible. you may just find something we both agreed to likely from Jesus instead of the other guy.



the bold made my day. Allah has made your heart speak the truth. You should know that it is your right to embrace Islam. .

What other folks are you talking about?
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Sweetnecta: 2:14pm On Sep 03, 2012
^^^^ I will attend to you in a minute, woman.

@frosbel:
by frosbel(m): 11:52am

Sweetnecta:


the bold made my day. Allah has made your heart speak the truth. You should know that it is your right to embrace Islam. .


Acts 2
37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”

38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.
the bold is from you in response to me posting the below, also from you.


It is impossible to show these as a verse or phrase in our Bibles:


1. "Accept Christ as personal saviour" spoken in scripture
if your two quotes are arguing against each other, whose fault is it to accept such a religion? there is problem in your logic frosbel.
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Sweetnecta: 2:17pm On Sep 03, 2012
@Plappville:
by plappville(f): 1:54pm

Sweetnecta: ^^^^ You killed your arguments in many fronts:

You quoted Romans as if that came from Jesus.
You failed to even imitate Jesus in a simple thing like marriage which takes no big effort.

when will you ever quote Jesus instead of other folks? please refer to red lettered bible. you may just find something we both agreed to likely from Jesus instead of the other guy.



the bold made my day. Allah has made your heart speak the truth. You should know that it is your right to embrace Islam. .


What other folks are you talking about?
Paul, Peter, etc instead of Jesus. unless Jesus was the speaker in Romans instead of Paul?
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:24pm On Sep 03, 2012
Delafruita:

admittedly,most are human inventions,however,many on your list were either implied in the bible or modelled after a bible practice or occurence.

This is a good point that many Calvinists fail to see.
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by PastorKun(m): 2:30pm On Sep 03, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

This is a good point that many Calvinists may not see.

Trust you to defend the doctrines of men forced into christian religious practise. Implied does not equal to commandment that must be followed or obeyed. And in most cases the so called implied practise is modifyed (twisted) to sut the preacher's whims and caprices.
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:37pm On Sep 03, 2012
Pastor Kun:

Trust you to defend the doctrines of men forced into christian religious practise. Implied does not equal to commandment that must be followed or obeyed. And in most cases the so called implied practise is modifyed (twisted) to sut the preacher's whims and caprices.

Is there a chance that the words that I quoted above not written in the Bible? If they are not does that make you a fake pastor?
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by plappville(f): 2:38pm On Sep 03, 2012
Sweetnecta: @Plappville: Paul, Peter, etc instead of Jesus. unless Jesus was the speaker in Romans instead of Paul?

Even though it will make no sence to you, but i will still have to correct you for the good of others you may be trying to use ur logic on as a Muslim.

You must know that Paul’s writings are authorities for faith and practice to Christians, His message is from Jesus Christ spoken through Him.
He never claimed to have possessed absolute authority inherent in his position, Paul submitted himself when he was chosed and Jesus Christ lived, worked and spoke through him. There many bible verses to prove to u, but as u will never take them to be serious, this 1 is enough.

1 Thessalonians 2:13: 13For this reason we also constantly thank God that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men, but for what it really is, the word of God, which also performs its work in you who believe.
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Nobody: 2:39pm On Sep 03, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

Is there a chance that the words that I quoted above not written in the Bible? If they not does that make you a fake pastor?

You do know that deeper life has included some of these falsehoods in their church , right ?
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:42pm On Sep 03, 2012
frosbel:

You do know that deeper life has included some of these falsehoods in their church , right ?

This is what not going to church does to a person, it turns someone into kicking against the goads.
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Nobody: 2:51pm On Sep 03, 2012
OLAADEGBU:

This is what not not going to church does to you, it turns you into kicking against the goads.

What is church ? your church or my church, rccg, or assemblies or rcc or the sda or even JW. which is the true church in this case, yours or mine ? which one has the true bible doctrines, deeper life or cele, common pal, the term 'church' as it is used today is just a corruption of the true meaning.

Church is not a building but a body of believers who truly follow Christ.
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by plappville(f): 3:28pm On Sep 03, 2012
frosbel:

What is church ? your church or my church, rccg, or assemblies or rcc or the sda or even JW. which is the true church in this case, yours or mine ? which one has the true bible doctrines, deeper life or cele, common pal, the term 'church' as it is used today is just a corruption of the true meaning.

Church is not a building but a body of believers who truly follow Christ.


So do you gather other believers with yourself to form a church? Remember ;Hebrews 10:24–25 “Let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the "gathering of ourselves together", as the manner of some is: but exhorting one another and so much the more, as you see the day approaching”
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:30pm On Sep 03, 2012
frosbel:

What is church ? your church or my church, rccg, or assemblies or rcc or the sda or even JW. which is the true church in this case, yours or mine ? which one has the true bible doctrines, deeper life or cele, common pal, the term 'church' as it is used today is just a corruption of the true meaning.

Church is not a building but a body of believers who truly follow Christ.


You are missing the point here. "Deeper Life" is not even a denominational church as you have been misled to believe even though you say that you've been a member for several years. It is local non denominational church. The invisible Church which is the body of Christ is what you are confusing with the local Church and members of this invisible Church can be found in different local churches but not with some cults that you included some local churches in your list up there. If you do not fellowship then it is likely that you might not be a fellow sheep. It's that simple.

Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by PastorKun(m): 3:31pm On Sep 03, 2012
frosbel:

What is church ? your church or my church, rccg, or assemblies or rcc or the sda or even JW. which is the true church in this case, yours or mine ? which one has the true bible doctrines, deeper life or cele, common pal, the term 'church' as it is used today is just a corruption of the true meaning.

Church is not a building but a body of believers who truly follow Christ.


Abeg help me tell am ooooo! He believes his salvation lies in deeper life a church that might be seen by christ NOT to be following in his foot steps.
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:33pm On Sep 03, 2012
Pastor Kun:

Abeg help me tell am ooooo! He believes his salvation lies in deeper life a church that might be seen by christ to be following in his foot steps.

Birds of the same feather, they say, flock together. wink
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:49pm On Sep 03, 2012
The apostles have some words for spiritual rebels who can't go or wouldn't go to a local church.

Those Who Rule Over You

"Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation" (Hebrews 13:7).

The very idea that the church has "rulers" is resisted by many modern Christians, especially those in “autonomous” churches with “congregational” systems of governance. But in the last chapter of Hebrews, there are three commands given to Christian church members in relation to "them which have the rule over you." Christ, the Head of the church, has assured that each true local church will have God-called pastors, elders, or other “rulers” to lead the church in its divinely ordained ministry.

Whatever these leaders are called, or however they are appointed, if they have indeed "spoken unto you the Word of God," then the members of the church are commanded to "remember them" and their "faith follow."

Secondly, they are commanded to "Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account" (Hebrews 13:17). Thirdly, they are to "Salute all them that have the rule over you, and all the saints" (Hebrews 13:24) with the word "salute" meaning literally "embrace" in the sense of glad greetings and fellowship.

The position of "ruler" in a church is not that of a dictator. The Greek word for "have the rule over" means more exactly, "lead." God-ordained leaders are not "lords over God’s heritage," but "examples to the flock" (1 Peter 5:3). They must "give account" (4:5) to God for their faithfulness and shall receive "greater condemnation" if they misuse their authority (James 3:1). They need—and deserve—to have us remember them in prayer, embrace them in fellowship, submit to their leading, and follow their faith as long as they truly proclaim and follow the word of God themselves. HMM

For more . . . .

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Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Sweetnecta: 5:07pm On Sep 03, 2012
^^^^ comedy central and the uses of cartoons.


@plappville:
by plappville(f): 2:38pm

Sweetnecta: @Plappville: Paul, Peter, etc instead of Jesus. unless Jesus was the speaker in Romans instead of Paul?


Even though it will make no sence to you, but i will still have to correct you for the good of others you may be trying to use ur logic on as a Muslim.

You must know that Paul’s writings are authorities for faith and practice to Christians, His message is from Jesus Christ spoken through Him.
does paul writing take precedence over what Jesus says? lets see Jesus as son of man, servant and slave of God. His Messenger versus paul saying Jesus is God. which is correct? Jesus couldn't have had a messenger in Paul who is unknown to him especially when Jesus had 11 remaining followers and only predicted there will be an another comforter after him. Is paul that another comforter, otherwise what role did Jesus predict the like of paul to have except wolf in sheep clothing among the followers of Jesus?


He never claimed to have possessed absolute authority inherent in his position, Paul submitted himself when he was chosed and Jesus Christ lived, worked and spoke through him.
this is so untrue considering that he was not a prophet of God, yet began to have more authority than those who saw and followed the prophet of God. unless you will argue that paul is the another comforter?


There many bible verses to prove to u, but as u will never take them to be serious, this 1 is enough.

1 Thessalonians 2:13: 13For this reason we also constantly thank God that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men, but for what it really is, the word of God, which also performs its work in you who believe.
who is that verse from; Jesus or paul? who are you defending with it; paul?

God said Jesus is His Messenger [as]. Jesus said he is Messenger of God to the children of Israel.

Paul said Jesus is messenger of God to all the world, son and God Himself.

Tell me who is incorrect: God and Jesus who said Jesus is a prophet to the house of Jacob or paul who said Jesus is prophet beyond that and even son as well God?
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Sweetnecta: 5:16pm On Sep 03, 2012
@Olaadegbu:
by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:42pm

frosbel:

You do know that deeper life has included some of these falsehoods in their church , right ?


This is what not going to church does to a person, it turns someone into kicking against the goads.
whats a goad? is it prick according to paul that the invisible Jesus said paul was kicking against? whats a prick or goad in this case and whats moral/religious message from it?
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Nobody: 5:19pm On Sep 03, 2012
OLAADEGBU: The apostles have some words for spiritual rebels who can't go or wouldn't go to a local church.


I have nothing against rulership, absolutely nothing. The crux of the matter is , what was the leadership model in the early church, was it one pastor over an entire church or a number of people ?


Also what is a local church , is it the members in that city or district that make up the church or individual denominations ? For example when Paul wrote to the Corinthians ( a local church ) he wrote to ALL the Christians in that city not to 1000 different denominations. The Christians met in homes, and sometimes in public buildings, but they were called ONE in CHRIST.

We will discuss in another article the true leadership model of a local church which was not physical but spiritual.

Now help me with this small question :

Suppose I live in Lagos, Surulere for example , on a nice breezy and mild Sunday , I decide to go to my local church, kindly advice me with the list below which one qualifies as my local church , assuming they all have branches in that area.

Deeperlife
RCCG
MFM
International fire ministries
Catholic church
Seven Day adventists
Anglican
Christ Embassy
Assemblies of GOD
True Assemblies
Real Assemblies international
Zion ministries
Methodist
Baptist
Reformed Baptist
Apostolic
Apostolic faith
Christ Apostolic Faith
Aladura
Mountain Ephraim church
Ekwa
Trem
All Nations Evangelical Church
Christ Chapel International Churches
Church of God Mission International
Christian Central Chapel International (CCCI) City of Testimonies
City of Life Christian center
His Purpose Church
Liberty Foundation Gospel Ministries
Salem International Christian Centre
This Present House
Winners Chapel (Faith Tabernacle
Word of Life Bible Church



Key words from your article on church leadership :

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not His or Hers.

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