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Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Fr0sbel: 9:07am On Sep 03, 2012 |
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Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by PastorKun(m): 9:32am On Sep 03, 2012 |
God help us! Virtually all the popular church practises today across most dnominations are doctrines of men being presented as the word of God. May God open our eyes to serve him in truth and faith. The painful thing is that the commandment Jesus declared as the greatest and most important in the bible which is to 'Love others as ourselves' is either ignored or merely paid lip service to yet we call ourselves followers of christ. It's a real big shame on the so called churches and christian leaders. |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Delafruita(m): 9:36am On Sep 03, 2012 |
admittedly,most are human inventions,however,many on your list were either implied in the bible or modelled after a bible practice or occurence. 1 Like |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Nobody: 10:05am On Sep 03, 2012 |
Delafruita: admittedly,most are human inventions,however,many on your list were either implied in the bible or modelled after a bible practice or occurence. Modelling certain practices after obsolete Jewish rites is inconsequential and invalid as far as the new convent is concerned. Our main role model is Christ and we are to model our behaviour and practices after HIM and his life style ALONE. "For those God foreknew he also predestined[b] to be conformed to the likeness of his Son[/b], that he might be the firstborn among many brothers." - Romans 8:29 |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Sweetnecta: 11:19am On Sep 03, 2012 |
^^^^ You killed your arguments in my fronts: You quoted Romans as if that came from Jesus. You failed to even imitate Jesus in a simple thing like marriage which takes no big effort. by Fr0sbel: 9:07amwhen will you ever quote Jesus instead of other folks? please refer to red lettered bible. you may just find something we both agreed to likely from Jesus instead of the other guy. It is impossible to show these as a verse or phrase in our Bibles:the bold made my day. Allah has made your heart speak the truth. You should know that it is your right to embrace Islam. . |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Sweetnecta: 11:20am On Sep 03, 2012 |
^^^^ You killed your arguments in many fronts: You quoted Romans as if that came from Jesus. You failed to even imitate Jesus in a simple thing like marriage which takes no big effort. by Fr0sbel: 9:07amwhen will you ever quote Jesus instead of other folks? please refer to red lettered bible. you may just find something we both agreed to likely from Jesus instead of the other guy. It is impossible to show these as a verse or phrase in our Bibles:the bold made my day. Allah has made your heart speak the truth. You should know that it is your right to embrace Islam. . |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by ijawkid(m): 11:27am On Sep 03, 2012 |
Lol.... See list..... Its time to start cancelling each item,words,and doctrine on that list by sticking to what the bible really teaches......... I think I'v erased almost all.... |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by PastorAIO: 11:50am On Sep 03, 2012 |
And there is no Amala in the bible, so I really wonder about those so called christians that like to wack amala. I really wonder. |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Nobody: 11:52am On Sep 03, 2012 |
Sweetnecta: Acts 2 37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” 38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.” 40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day. |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by wirinet(m): 12:12pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
Christianity (teachings of Christ) was supposed to be a social, economic and spiritual revolution. before Christ, philosophy of life centred around exploitative capitalism and despotic monarchy - both socially and religiously. God was at the apex of the herarchy, then you had a pyramid of priest in order of importance until you get to the common man at the base of the pyramid. So for the common man to reach God, he has to go through his local priest or religious leader, who takes his prayers to higher authorities until it gets to the supreme priest who then takes your supplications to God. The governments was also modeled in this way. To reach Caesar, you have to pass through a pyramid of representatives. That was how the pharisees and saduccees were structured. But Christ's revolutionary teachings knocked down the structure, he teached that you do not need any intermediary to connect to God, that as far as God is concerned, no one is closer to God and everybody is at the same level. This was a revolutionary teaching never seen before in the history of the world. The religious leaders were in an uproar for fear of losing power, privilege and control. The political leaders were afraid of such revolutionary thinking entering the political sphere: something had to be done to maintain the status quo. The new movement was first brutally suppressed, but when the revolution seemed to powerful to contain, Rome decided to modify, assimilate and adopt it, but in a control manner. Gradually they were able to kill the Christ revolution and build a new pyramid of new heirarchies. This became the new template for the Christian religion. The pope, bishop or G.O is said to be closest to God, while those under him derives authority for the head, while the masses at the base of the pyramid needs to go through the heirachy to get to the G.O to be able to reach God. That is why I call Christianity the first socialist revolution that never was. 1 Like |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Delafruita(m): 12:29pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
frosbel:perhaps you should go about wearing a cassock,cursing fig trees and speaking rudely to your mother.while at it,hurl unsults like "sons of vipers" and whip people at will |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Nobody: 12:50pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
Delafruita: Maybe I should May God open your blinded eyes ! |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by plappville(f): 1:50pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
Your list is even small if we are really to mention all the forgery names used in todays church. I so much agree with you that many convert get flowed with the system since they have to do like others. Until one start doing daily study of the bible, He/She will continue to flow with this fake system. Anyway, i think not all you listed were not Used in the bible. Pastor, Service, Worship are used in the Bible. But maybe the wrong use if it today is what should be retified. Therefore I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your spiritual service of worship. Jer 17:16 As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day; thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right before thee. [s]And ye shall know the truth and the truth shall sey you free.[/s] |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by plappville(f): 1:51pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
Pastor Kun: God help us! Virtually all the popular church practises today across most dnominations are doctrine of men being presented as the word of God. May God open our eyes to serve him in truth and faith. The painful thing is that the commandment Jesus declared as the greatest and most important in the bible which is to 'Love others as ourselves' is either ignored or merely paid lip service to yet we call ourselves followers of christ. It's a real big shame on the so called churches and christian leaders. You have spoken WORDS!!!!! |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by plappville(f): 1:54pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
Sweetnecta: ^^^^ You killed your arguments in many fronts: What other folks are you talking about? |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Sweetnecta: 2:14pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
^^^^ I will attend to you in a minute, woman. @frosbel: by frosbel(m): 11:52amthe bold is from you in response to me posting the below, also from you. if your two quotes are arguing against each other, whose fault is it to accept such a religion? there is problem in your logic frosbel. |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Sweetnecta: 2:17pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
@Plappville: by plappville(f): 1:54pmPaul, Peter, etc instead of Jesus. unless Jesus was the speaker in Romans instead of Paul? |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:24pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
Delafruita: This is a good point that many Calvinists fail to see. |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by PastorKun(m): 2:30pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: Trust you to defend the doctrines of men forced into christian religious practise. Implied does not equal to commandment that must be followed or obeyed. And in most cases the so called implied practise is modifyed (twisted) to sut the preacher's whims and caprices. |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:37pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
Pastor Kun: Is there a chance that the words that I quoted above not written in the Bible? If they are not does that make you a fake pastor? |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by plappville(f): 2:38pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
Sweetnecta: @Plappville: Paul, Peter, etc instead of Jesus. unless Jesus was the speaker in Romans instead of Paul? Even though it will make no sence to you, but i will still have to correct you for the good of others you may be trying to use ur logic on as a Muslim. You must know that Paul’s writings are authorities for faith and practice to Christians, His message is from Jesus Christ spoken through Him. He never claimed to have possessed absolute authority inherent in his position, Paul submitted himself when he was chosed and Jesus Christ lived, worked and spoke through him. There many bible verses to prove to u, but as u will never take them to be serious, this 1 is enough. 1 Thessalonians 2:13: 13For this reason we also constantly thank God that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men, but for what it really is, the word of God, which also performs its work in you who believe. |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Nobody: 2:39pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: You do know that deeper life has included some of these falsehoods in their church , right ? |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:42pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
frosbel: This is what not going to church does to a person, it turns someone into kicking against the goads. |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Nobody: 2:51pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: What is church ? your church or my church, rccg, or assemblies or rcc or the sda or even JW. which is the true church in this case, yours or mine ? which one has the true bible doctrines, deeper life or cele, common pal, the term 'church' as it is used today is just a corruption of the true meaning. Church is not a building but a body of believers who truly follow Christ. |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by plappville(f): 3:28pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
frosbel: So do you gather other believers with yourself to form a church? Remember ;Hebrews 10:24–25 “Let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the "gathering of ourselves together", as the manner of some is: but exhorting one another and so much the more, as you see the day approaching” |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:30pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
frosbel: You are missing the point here. "Deeper Life" is not even a denominational church as you have been misled to believe even though you say that you've been a member for several years. It is local non denominational church. The invisible Church which is the body of Christ is what you are confusing with the local Church and members of this invisible Church can be found in different local churches but not with some cults that you included some local churches in your list up there. If you do not fellowship then it is likely that you might not be a fellow sheep. It's that simple.
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Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by PastorKun(m): 3:31pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
frosbel: Abeg help me tell am ooooo! He believes his salvation lies in deeper life a church that might be seen by christ NOT to be following in his foot steps. |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:33pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
Pastor Kun: Birds of the same feather, they say, flock together. |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:49pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
The apostles have some words for spiritual rebels who can't go or wouldn't go to a local church. Those Who Rule Over You 1 Like |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Sweetnecta: 5:07pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
^^^^ comedy central and the uses of cartoons. @plappville: by plappville(f): 2:38pmdoes paul writing take precedence over what Jesus says? lets see Jesus as son of man, servant and slave of God. His Messenger versus paul saying Jesus is God. which is correct? Jesus couldn't have had a messenger in Paul who is unknown to him especially when Jesus had 11 remaining followers and only predicted there will be an another comforter after him. Is paul that another comforter, otherwise what role did Jesus predict the like of paul to have except wolf in sheep clothing among the followers of Jesus? He never claimed to have possessed absolute authority inherent in his position, Paul submitted himself when he was chosed and Jesus Christ lived, worked and spoke through him.this is so untrue considering that he was not a prophet of God, yet began to have more authority than those who saw and followed the prophet of God. unless you will argue that paul is the another comforter? There many bible verses to prove to u, but as u will never take them to be serious, this 1 is enough.who is that verse from; Jesus or paul? who are you defending with it; paul? God said Jesus is His Messenger [as]. Jesus said he is Messenger of God to the children of Israel. Paul said Jesus is messenger of God to all the world, son and God Himself. Tell me who is incorrect: God and Jesus who said Jesus is a prophet to the house of Jacob or paul who said Jesus is prophet beyond that and even son as well God? |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Sweetnecta: 5:16pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
@Olaadegbu: by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:42pmwhats a goad? is it prick according to paul that the invisible Jesus said paul was kicking against? whats a prick or goad in this case and whats moral/religious message from it? |
Re: Not In Scripture ? Are You Prepared For A Shock? by Nobody: 5:19pm On Sep 03, 2012 |
OLAADEGBU: The apostles have some words for spiritual rebels who can't go or wouldn't go to a local church. I have nothing against rulership, absolutely nothing. The crux of the matter is , what was the leadership model in the early church, was it one pastor over an entire church or a number of people ? Also what is a local church , is it the members in that city or district that make up the church or individual denominations ? For example when Paul wrote to the Corinthians ( a local church ) he wrote to ALL the Christians in that city not to 1000 different denominations. The Christians met in homes, and sometimes in public buildings, but they were called ONE in CHRIST. We will discuss in another article the true leadership model of a local church which was not physical but spiritual. Now help me with this small question : Suppose I live in Lagos, Surulere for example , on a nice breezy and mild Sunday , I decide to go to my local church, kindly advice me with the list below which one qualifies as my local church , assuming they all have branches in that area. Deeperlife RCCG MFM International fire ministries Catholic church Seven Day adventists Anglican Christ Embassy Assemblies of GOD True Assemblies Real Assemblies international Zion ministries Methodist Baptist Reformed Baptist Apostolic Apostolic faith Christ Apostolic Faith Aladura Mountain Ephraim church Ekwa Trem All Nations Evangelical Church Christ Chapel International Churches Church of God Mission International Christian Central Chapel International (CCCI) City of Testimonies City of Life Christian center His Purpose Church Liberty Foundation Gospel Ministries Salem International Christian Centre This Present House Winners Chapel (Faith Tabernacle Word of Life Bible Church Key words from your article on church leadership : They Their not His or Hers. |
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