Pk001:

Bros, you don use playbook before?

Who told you playbook doesn't have wifi? And tell me why you will need a sim card on your playbook if you can bridge it and enjoy all the Internet package without interrupting your phone's Internet services and at no extra cost.
BB has the best Internet plan for Nigeria and I bet, you will enjoy BB PLAYBOOK far more than ipad or any other tablet in Nigeria.
Mind you, playbook runs on android applications so you have enough applications you need that will complete with Ipad. The only thing is that, you have to buy some the best applications for playbook and they are relatively cheap.
I have used different tablets including Ipad and I can testify that bb playbook is just the best especially for Nigeria. It's a pity many are not aware of the capabilities of playbook and thereby being reaped by apple.

Blackberry Playbook is a mediocre tablet.
Bridge is only a feature if you're too broke to buy a decent data plan. I have a data bundle on my iPad so i don't need Bridge. I NEVER use bridge on my Playbook because it requires a bluetooth connection. Without Bluetooth being on, my bold 9900 can barely even last 2/3 of a day with moderate use with 3G on. Some of us have to switch to EDGE to get decent battery life...do i need to explain to you how slow EDGE internet is?

PlayBook lacks many of the compelling apps found on Android and iOS. The ability to sideload Android apps is handy, but there are way too many restrictions and many apps will not run. The Android player in the playbook is notorious for stability problems...

There are no offline GPS navigation apps for PlayBook that work in Nigeria, for example. Skype doesn't work, no 3rd party video chat app. You're restricted to ports of games that released on iOS and Android 8 months ago (eg Playbook just got Modern Combat 3). The hardware is showing its age now, easily outclassed by new iOS and Android tablets. Battery life is just middling.

I have recommended the Playbook to others as a budget tablet that's pretty good...but to say it's better than iOS and Android tablets is just plain craziness.

Beefing... Lols

texazzpete:
Blackberry Playbook is a mediocre tablet.
Bridge is only a feature if you're too broke to buy a decent data plan. I have a data bundle on my iPad so i don't need Bridge. I NEVER use bridge on my Playbook because it requires a bluetooth connection. Without Bluetooth being on, my bold 9900 can barely even last 2/3 of a day with moderate use with 3G on. Some of us have to switch to EDGE to get decent battery life...do i need to explain to you how slow EDGE internet is?

Your arguments or is it reasons are quite laughable, are you aware that there is a WiFI ONLY iPad? Now that reality as hit you, you are comparing apples to oranges, comparing a WiFi only PlayBook to a 3G iPad. You’d need to compare the 3G iPad to the 3G Playbook, then you’d see that the PlayBook far outweighs your iPad in functionality.
Advice: Update your 9900 OS to get better battery life, the stock OS was very bad with battery management. However, the 9900 still outlasts the iPhone 4S on the same use.

texazzpete:
PlayBook lacks many of the compelling apps found on Android and iOS. The ability to sideload Android apps is handy, but there are way too many restrictions and many apps will not run. The Android player in the playbook is notorious for stability problems...

That some applications do not run on Windows 7, does it mean that Windows is bad and has stability issues? It is a port and much would depend on the coding capabilities of the developer.

texazzpete:
There are no offline GPS navigation apps for PlayBook that work in Nigeria, for example. Skype doesn't work, no 3rd party video chat app. You're restricted to ports of games that released on iOS and Android 8 months ago (eg Playbook just got Modern Combat 3). The hardware is showing its age now, easily outclassed by new iOS and Android tablets. Battery life is just middling.

Yes you cannot Skype, and sideloaded Android video chats would not work because RIM blocked access to the camera on purpose.
Which hardware is aging? The PlayBook spec for spec still beats the new iPad, as a matter of fact a developer ported his IOS app to the PlayBook and the PlayBook ran the app faster and smoother than the iPad. Read it here: http://kalogirou.net/2012/08/25/impressed-by-the-new-blackberry-os-or-how-ios-ate-dust/
By the way, to you games might be important while to others it is not. So Modern Combat 3 or Angry Birds coming late to PlayBook does not impact its functionality.

texazzpete:
I have recommended the Playbook to others as a budget tablet that's pretty good...but to say it's better than iOS and Android tablets is just plain craziness.

My guy, it is quite better than every WiFi only Android or iPad out there. If you doubt it, compare them spec for spec. The area where the others have the advantage is the number of apps in the Appstore.
Or you can compare the WiFi iPad to the WiFi PlayBook and get blown away by the things the PlayBook can help you achieve that would leave the WiFi iPad sad with envy.

Yes, the Appstore of the PlayBook is far smaller than that of both Apple and Android, but then it’s like saying a Year One students hasn’t done as much courses as a Year 4 student, the reason is obvious. The PlayBook came out last year while the Apple has been around for 5 years and Android for 3 years!

emmatok:

Now you really need help about this your attitude.
We are discussing technology here and not flaunting.
If you really have those Phones you won't be making noise here or flaunting.
Phones are tools busy business men.

And which phones is the highest selling and used by businessmen? BlackBerry, yeah you are right,it is BlackBerry.

The iPhone sells well worldwide, but for businesses and businessme, the BlackBerry is still king. So go figure.

Pk001:

Bros, you don use playbook before?

Who told you playbook doesn't have wifi? And tell me why you will need a sim card on your playbook if you can bridge it and enjoy all the Internet package without interrupting your phone's Internet services and at no extra cost.
BB has the best Internet plan for Nigeria and I bet, you will enjoy BB PLAYBOOK far more than ipad or any other tablet in Nigeria.
Mind you, playbook runs on android applications so you have enough applications you need that will complete with Ipad. The only thing is that, you have to buy some the best applications for playbook and they are relatively cheap.
I have used different tablets including Ipad and I can testify that bb playbook is just the best especially for Nigeria. It's a pity many are not aware of the capabilities of playbook and thereby being reaped by apple.

Guy wake up, I used a playbook for over a day and had to return it. Thank God I had not paid the guy. They just added wifi in their new release. I had to install a bridge to my other bb phone and that meant I was running down 2 batteries at the same time. That was madness. Besides, forget that android apps stuff. It doesn't work for most apps.

And forget the bb plan trick the networks are playing. They know you cannot use the bandwidth on your bb because the phone is crap. BB has nothing. That miserly 1GB that airtel gives you will not last one week on an android because there's so much to do.

Please don't think that cabin biscuit is now better than cookies just because they are both brownish. BB is crap phone. Always hanging even when you are doing simple stuff. The multitasking in bb is absolutely useless. Try running live wallpapers on a bb? Even with their new cascading frames, they are still like 5 years behind. App world is a poorly built, poorly managed confused portal. Even whatsapp on bb is a better, faster and simpler chat tool that the bbm messenger.

Please beg someone to give you a droid or iphone or better still, a galaxy note or ipad 3 for 24 hrs! By the time you finish playing just 5 levels of where's my water on an android or IOS machine, you will never want to use a bb ever again.

thelastPope:
Guy wake up, I used a playbook for over a day and had to return it. Thank God I had not paid the guy. They just added wifi in their new release. I had to install a bridge to my other bb phone and that meant I was running down 2 batteries at the same time. That was madness. Besides, forget that android apps stuff. It doesn't work for most apps.

And forget the bb plan trick the networks are playing. They know you cannot use the bandwidth on your bb because the phone is crap. BB has nothing. That miserly 1GB that airtel gives you will not last one week on an android because there's so much to do.

Please don't think that cabin biscuit is now better than cookies just because they are both brownish. BB is crap phone. Always hanging even when you are doing simple stuff. The multitasking in bb is absolutely useless. Try running live wallpapers on a bb? Even with their new cascading frames, they are still like 5 years behind. App world is a poorly built, poorly managed confused portal. Even whatsapp on bb is a better, faster and simpler chat tool that the bbm messenger.

Please beg someone to give you a droid or iphone or better still, a galaxy note or ipad 3 for 24 hrs! By the time you finish playing just 5 levels of where's my water on an android or IOS machine, you will never want to use a bb ever again.

You are a clown right? The PlayBook that was released since April of 2011 is a WiFi capable tablet with the ADDED functionality of being able to do TETHERING.
No other tablet had that capability! Thus if there is no WiFI, every other WiFi only tablet becomes a brick except of course the PlayBook that can do standard tethering to ANY phone ( at a cost) and also, BlackBerry Bridge to other BlackBerry phones to ensure internet capabilities at NO EXTRA COST.
Your statement about BB phones not being able to use the allocated bandwidth because of they being crap shows you are just a neophyte and with limited abilities, (could it be why you use iPad/Android?). Just to help you out, the reason is because the BlackBerry servers (referred to as NOC) would have compressed the data to be send to the devices thus if a BB and an Android were to download the same 5MB of file from an email, the Android would incur the total cost of the 5MB while for the BB, it would be something in the region of 1MB due to the BlackBerry server compressions.
This is why the carriers can offer cheaper internet rates on BB.

Akainzo:

You are a clown right? The PlayBook that was released since April of 2011 is a WiFi capable tablet with the ADDED functionality of being able to do TETHERING.
No other tablet had that capability! Thus if there is no WiFI, every other WiFi only tablet becomes a brick except of course the PlayBook that can do standard tethering to ANY phone ( at a cost) and also, BlackBerry Bridge to other BlackBerry phones to ensure internet capabilities at NO EXTRA COST.
Your statement about BB phones not being able to use the allocated bandwidth because of they being crap shows you are just a neophyte and with limited abilities, (could it be why you use iPad/Android?). Just to help you out, the reason is because the BlackBerry servers (referred to as NOC) would have compressed the data to be send to the devices thus if a BB and an Android were to download the same 5MB of file from an email, the Android would incur the total cost of the 5MB while for the BB, it would be something in the region of 1MB due to the BlackBerry server compressions.
This is why the carriers can offer cheaper internet rates on BB.

You are very funny indeed. Tethering has been a part of android tabs for over 3 years. Which planet are you living in? Even android 2.2 custom ROMs offered tethering. You don't know what you are talking about.

Not everything can be compressed. You just shown you don't understand compression technology. That is why all the networks charge you separately for youtube and large files downloads. That is also why some sites will not work well on bb. Try playing youtube on any of the networks and see how fast they will gulp your airtime credit. They know RIM only compresses email and simple web pages. Don't make comments like you know what you are talking about when you obviously don't.

Playbook is not even listed in most device comparison sites. You just talking funny

thelastPope:

You are very funny indeed. Tethering has been a part of android tabs for over 3 years. Which planet are you living in? Even android 2.2 custom ROMs offered tethering. You don't know what you are talking about.

Not everything can be compressed. You just shown you don't understand compression technology. That is why all the networks charge you separately for youtube and large files downloads. That is also why some sites will not work well on bb. Try playing youtube on any of the networks and see how fast they will gulp your airtime credit. They know RIM only compresses email and simple web pages. Don't make comments like you know what you are talking about when you obviously don't.

Playbook is not even listed in most device comparison sites. You just talking funny

You are the funny one. Tell me which of the Android tablets had non-USB based tethering before the PlayBook. And by the way, Android ICS came after the playbook, so research before you spew nonsense.

That not all things can be compressed is not the issue, but once it can be compressed, BB would compress it and send it across to you. The networks can only charge what BlackBerry does not pass through its NOC. Once it passes through its NOC, no carrier can charge you for it. Watch Youtube via the browser and you are not charged, but watch you using the Youtube app and you would definitely be charged. All file downloads are not charged for your information.
Most of the not too savvy folks (maybe like you) forget to set the browser correctly or even use the WAP browser, of course you would be charged. Learn things and you would be liberated.

You obviously are ignorant of how BB works and thus I would pardon you (heck you even did not know the PlayBook had WiFi even after claiming to use it for one day!). That it is not listed does not mean that one cannot compare it, it is for that reason of helping those that want to get at information or learn other things that Google makes money. Use it and get the spec sheet, then compare it yourself and you can come back here.

i smell a pack of ignoramus'. If i intend to roll out an LTE enabled device under brand name jr corp, under the FRAND agreement, i should be granted permission to use LTE regardless of who owns all the patents(it becomes a question of royalty since it's a relatively new industry standard). Thats what FRAND was made for right? Samsung can't win! . It's like saying nokia cant use 3g on its devices because LG owns patents to it. In most cases no royalty is paid at all.

Akainzo:

You are the funny one. Tell me which of the Android tablets had non-USB based tethering before the PlayBook. And by the way, Android ICS came after the playbook, so research before you spew nonsense.

That not all things can be compressed is not the issue, but once it can be compressed, BB would compress it and send it across to you. The networks can only charge what BlackBerry does not pass through its NOC. Once it passes through its NOC, no carrier can charge you for it. Watch Youtube via the browser and you are not charged, but watch you using the Youtube app and you would definitely be charged. All file downloads are not charged for your information.
Most of the not too savvy folks (maybe like you) forget to set the browser correctly or even use the WAP browser, of course you would be charged. Learn things and you would be liberated.

You obviously are ignorant of how BB works and thus I would pardon you (heck you even did not know the PlayBook had WiFi even after claiming to use it for one day!). That it is not listed does not mean that one cannot compare it, it is for that reason of helping those that want to get at information or learn other things that Google makes money. Use it and get the spec sheet, then compare it yourself and you can come back here.

Why do you keep spewing crap. Read man, don't be lazy.

I said clearly that the new playbook has wifi. But the older playbooks don't have wifi. Why ever design a device without wifi in the first place? How dumb can a company get? Wifi tethering has been available since froyo 2.2. Galaxy tabs and motorolla droid have been running tethering since then. Don't comment on what you don't know. ICS only included tethering as a standard. It doesn't mean that was the first time tethering was available. Most networks refused to included tethering in their shipped devices because of obvious business reasons. I had my galaxy s without tethering but a simple custom ROM fixed that. Even tethering apps on the android market provided wireless tethering for anyone that cared. You are way of your limits here.

On your bb, you cannot play youtube on your browser in glo, airtel, mtn and etisalat without being charged extra. They will clean you up before you can say jack. Doesn't matter how you configure your browser. I have had to call customer service and literary fight them several times because networks like airtel or etisalat will not even warn you before gulping your credit. The customer support guys will tell you in clear terms that they charge for it. Are you sure you aint living in Afghan?

Current rankings By daily interest Device Daily hits
1. Apple iPhone 5 162,495
2. Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III 86,888
3. Nokia Lumia 920 75,276
4. Samsung Galaxy Note II N7100 53,682
5. Nokia Asha 311 42,254
6. Samsung Galaxy Y S5360 41,281
7. Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830 38,811
8. Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II 33,738
9. Apple iPhone 4S 33,278
10. Sony Xperia S 28,988


BB users where are you in this world ranking of mobile phones?

Billyonaire: You are talking bull. What do flaunt if you dont flaunt a $2k Porsche, a 3.5m Naira GoldVish and Vaetu. All phones are not equal.

this poster na mumu. better one at dat

thelastPope:
Why do you keep spewing crap. Read man, don't be lazy.

I said clearly that the new playbook has wifi. But the older playbooks don't have wifi. Why ever design a device without wifi in the first place? How dumb can a company get?

No, it is how dumb can you be! The first PlayBook released in April 2011 is a WiFi ONLY Tablet! Is that hard for you to read and understand! Haba! See it here: http://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_playbook-3830.php

The new PlayBook launched in August 2012 is a 4G/LTE PlayBook. See it here: http://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_4g_lte_playbook-3846.php

thelastPope:
Wifi tethering has been available since froyo 2.2. Galaxy tabs and motorolla droid have been running tethering since then. Don't comment on what you don't know. ICS only included tethering as a standard. It doesn't mean that was the first time tethering was available. Most networks refused to included tethering in their shipped devices because of obvious business reasons. I had my galaxy s without tethering but a simple custom ROM fixed that. Even tethering apps on the android market provided wireless tethering for anyone that cared. You are way of your limits here.

No let me vex with you! In one hand you accept that the tethering was not standard until ICS and yet you want to claim Android had it? The WiFi tethering has been available on my Sony Xperia X1 some 4-5 years ago, but it was not available on a tablet. Is the definition of a tablet hard for you to understand?
Also, I wasn’t referring to WiFi tethering, I clearly said Bluetooth tethering which is DUN implementation. Read my friend, read and understand!

thelastPope:
On your bb, you cannot play youtube on your browser in glo, airtel, mtn and etisalat without being charged extra. They will clean you up before you can say jack. Doesn't matter how you configure your browser. I have had to call customer service and literary fight them several times because networks like airtel or etisalat will not even warn you before gulping your credit. The customer support guys will tell you in clear terms that they charge for it. Are you sure you aint living in Afghan?

Obviously, they know you are ignorant so they feed you what they want. By the way, if I am in Afghanistan and I could do it, does it not show that you are far worse than I am

No be them start law suit?
Its just getting started.

Akainzo:

And which phones is the highest selling and used by businessmen? BlackBerry, yeah you are right,it is BlackBerry.

The iPhone sells well worldwide, but for businesses and businessme, the BlackBerry is still king. So go figure.

have to comment here, seems this poster just came from mars or is living in the past. Business men are nt using bb again oooooooo. go to www.entrepreneur.com and see things for your self or go to www.askmen.com and see things for yourself. bb kor bb ni.

texazzpete:


So it's all right for Google to claim Face Unlock as a software innovation, yet Overscroll Bounce and 'Pinch to zoom' aren't innovative or patentable? Were you asleep when Samsung claimed its Smart Stay and Direct Call software features were innovative?

Nonsense.

I was not asleep, I was wild awake. Claim and sue are two different things. It is obvious Apple and its supporters can not different between both for the simple reason of gross yet unreasonable contentment. The company went ahead with the patent infringement rights,which is unequivocally undeniable that Samsung must have had something to do with what looks like Apple's yet demanded for over a billion dollars for the garbage it has been feeding the public with. On one hand Apple is not a saint in this regard. On the other, it is quick to point accusing fingers when some of the features belonging to other companies, which probably has not been sorted out in one way or the other, is being used on their products every now and then.

I quite understand the so called iPhone avid supporters who would go extreme length to make their biased arguments heard.It is very clear at this moment that Apple followers all rather supporters are moved by sentiments as wouldn't have been required of anybody in smartphones tech debates. This is very clear in the light of their recent release of iPhone 5 - yet with lot of areas where it is still inferior to Samsung Galaxy S III the price remains well above and they are willing to put their money on it. It is unimaginably senseless to reasonable people.

My frustration with it is quite understandable, it is almost in all ramifications, as a company that never really care about some segment of the population when coming up with the hardware, features, apps and others. I was once a fan to the core of Apple products, most especially, with the release of iPhone in the past only to be beholding to them for every little thing that doesn't warrant such(to be precise it is stressful). So, I still think Apple products are over-rated and the society is just moved by the fact that it is Americans' and the hype that goes with such idea.

I dare anyone who really like iPhone to prove to me how the product can absolutely be free of copying or mimicking other company's works out there. It is a share move by Apple supporters and company to ruin others based on their jealousy. This will come to the limelight as the fading away of the product definitely come to an end - as the cliché goes 'anything that has beginning must has an end'. The end of this over-hyped iPhone is coming to a close as they continue to fight for patent infringement rights and bribing the lawyers and judges with fat pockets.

thelastPope:

Your $2000 bb porsche that just got angry bird like last week? You can't even get a common text editor that works right on it. Bros please you just wasted that money. RIM is a company of dunce technicians and programmers. Imagine a company that released a playbook that didn't support wifi or sim card and required a bridge connection to another bb phone to access Internet. All the members of that design team should have been sent to macdonalds to start flipping burgers.

BB is not even in the top 5 phones category. They will soon be acquired by SLOT in ikeja!

the blackberry porsche is a luxury phone na, its in another category of mobile phones like the nokia 8800 gold edition and them lamborghini phones. No need comparing it to feature phones. (like comparing a sports car to a luxury car)

nl.official:


You could have know the pronunciation. Nobody is above mistake. What I'm trying to say is no sign of typo in that.

typo i guess

ciphoenix: the blackberry porsche is a luxury phone na, its in another category of mobile phones like the nokia 8800 gold edition and them lamborghini phones. No need comparing it to feature phones. (like comparing a sports car to a luxury car)

the phone is a pi of s-hit,you dont get value for ur money.

mc~evans:


Buy that JUNK? I can never ever buy it even if it sells for 1cent

slightly exaggerated

texazzpete:

Samsung's entire lineup of smartphones (low, middle and high end) are outselling Apple's high end iPhone.

Apple's high end iPhone easily outsells Samsung's Galaxy high end phones.

Apple makes 70% of the total smartphone profits in the world.

Those are the important facts

any link to back that up?

uwa234:
Current rankings By daily interest Device Daily hits
1. Apple iPhone 5 162,495
2. Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III 86,888
3. Nokia Lumia 920 75,276
4. Samsung Galaxy Note II N7100 53,682
5. Nokia Asha 311 42,254
6. Samsung Galaxy Y S5360 41,281
7. Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830 38,811
8. Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II 33,738
9. Apple iPhone 4S 33,278
10. Sony Xperia S 28,988


BB users where are you in this world ranking of mobile phones?

correction. Not World Rankings. Gsmarena rankings

hbrednic:

the phone is a pi of s-hit,you dont get value for ur money.

uhmm, thats the idea. Luxury phones are just for show

all4naija: I was not asleep, I was wild awake. Claim and sue are two different things. It is obvious Apple and its supporters can not different between both for the simple reason of gross yet unreasonable contentment. The company went ahead with the patent infringement rights,which is unequivocally undeniable that Samsung must have had something to do with what looks like Apple's yet demanded for over a billion dollars for the garbage it has been feeding the public with. On one hand Apple is not a saint in this regard. On the other, it is quick to point accusing fingers when some of the features belonging to other companies, which probably has not been sorted out in one way or the other, is being used on their products every now and then.

I quite understand the so called iPhone avid supporters who would go extreme length to make their biased arguments heard.It is very clear at this moment that Apple followers all rather supporters are moved by sentiments as wouldn't have been required of anybody in smartphones tech debates. This is very clear in the light of their recent release of iPhone 5 - yet with lot of areas where it is still inferior to Samsung Galaxy S III the price remains well above and they are willing to put their money on it. It is unimaginably senseless to reasonable people.

My frustration with it is quite understandable, it is almost in all ramifications, as a company that never really care about some segment of the population when coming up with the hardware, features, apps and others. I was once a fan to the core of Apple products, most especially, with the release of iPhone in the past only to be beholding to them for every little thing that doesn't warrant such(to be precise it is stressful). So, I still think Apple products are over-rated and the society is just moved by the fact that it is Americans' and the hype that goes with such idea.

I dare anyone who really like iPhone to prove to me how the product can absolutely be free of copying or mimicking other company's works out there. It is a share move by Apple supporters and company to ruin others based on their jealousy. This will come to the limelight as the fading away of the product definitely come to an end - as the cliché goes 'anything that has beginning must has an end'. The end of this over-hyped iPhone is coming to a close as they continue to fight for patent infringement rights and bribing the lawyers and judges with fat pockets.

i wonder why apple lost in europe and asia

ciphoenix: any link to back that up?

Forbes: Apple makes 71% of smartphone profits
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/09/08/fascinating-number-apple-takes-71-of-all-smartphone-profits/



Even worse, for those of you Android fanboys who cannot see that Google is making a big mistake

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/03/apple-and-samsung-claim-99-of-profits-among-top-mobile-phone-vendors/

Google did a stupid thing by letting Samsung make the Galaxy Nexus. Samsung takes more than 90% of the total profits in the Android space. LG, Sony et al have been losing. As Samsung's star shines brighter, HTC's and LG's stars keep dimming.

all4naija: I was not asleep, I was wild awake. Claim and sue are two different things. It is obvious Apple and its supporters can not different between both for the simple reason of gross yet unreasonable contentment. The company went ahead with the patent infringement rights,which is unequivocally undeniable that Samsung must have had something to do with what looks like Apple's yet demanded for over a billion dollars for the garbage it has been feeding the public with. On one hand Apple is not a saint in this regard. On the other, it is quick to point accusing fingers when some of the features belonging to other companies, which probably has not been sorted out in one way or the other, is being used on their products every now and then.

I quite understand the so called iPhone avid supporters who would go extreme length to make their biased arguments heard.It is very clear at this moment that Apple followers all rather supporters are moved by sentiments as wouldn't have been required of anybody in smartphones tech debates. This is very clear in the light of their recent release of iPhone 5 - yet with lot of areas where it is still inferior to Samsung Galaxy S III the price remains well above and they are willing to put their money on it. It is unimaginably senseless to reasonable people.

My frustration with it is quite understandable, it is almost in all ramifications, as a company that never really care about some segment of the population when coming up with the hardware, features, apps and others. I was once a fan to the core of Apple products, most especially, with the release of iPhone in the past only to be beholding to them for every little thing that doesn't warrant such(to be precise it is stressful). So, I still think Apple products are over-rated and the society is just moved by the fact that it is Americans' and the hype that goes with such idea.

I dare anyone who really like iPhone to prove to me how the product can absolutely be free of copying or mimicking other company's works out there. It is a share move by Apple supporters and company to ruin others based on their jealousy. This will come to the limelight as the fading away of the product definitely come to an end - as the cliché goes 'anything that has beginning must has an end'. The end of this over-hyped iPhone is coming to a close as they continue to fight for patent infringement rights and bribing the lawyers and judges with fat pockets.

Oya, tell me the 'many' areas where the iPhone 5 is inferior to the Galaxy S III. I dare you.

Also, you've never been able to understand the difference between 'inspiration' and 'copying'. For example, google implemented a glow overscroll feature in Android 2.3. all samsung had to do was to use that code. instead they happily used Apple's overscroll bounce feature without permission. That's theft.

texazzpete:

Forbes: Apple makes 71% of smartphone profits
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/09/08/fascinating-number-apple-takes-71-of-all-smartphone-profits/



Even worse, for those of you Android fanboys who cannot see that Google is making a big mistake

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/03/apple-and-samsung-claim-99-of-profits-among-top-mobile-phone-vendors/

Google did a stupid thing by letting Samsung make the Galaxy Nexus. Samsung takes more than 90% of the total profits in the Android space. LG, Sony et al have been losing. As Samsung's star shines brighter, HTC's and LG's stars keep dimming.

good to know. Still doesn't affect my choice of smartphone tho. Its all bout what one wants from a phone. Personally, a galaxy s3(for every other thing) and a bold5(unlimited bandwidth internet strictly for downloading). Couldn't ask for more

thelastPope:

Blackberry ke? The reason they aint talking about blackberry is because they are not even in the competition. Blackberry is a cheap glorified java phone that Nigeria is helping to keep alive. Yeye!

Laffing till I Fall off the bench with my 'Ayo' board.

uwa234:

have to comment here, seems this poster just came from mars or is living in the past. Business men are nt using bb again oooooooo. go to www.entrepreneur.com and see things for your self or go to www.askmen.com and see things for yourself. bb kor bb ni.

Obviously, you are not informed! Which of those sites you posted negated my assertion? Askmen.com really

Ok, do a search and find out how many of the Fortune 500 companies are using BlackBerries then come here and post the findings. By the way, please watch this video : http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000115472&startTime=108&endTime=139&&

texazzpete:

Forbes: Apple makes 71% of smartphone profits
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/09/08/fascinating-number-apple-takes-71-of-all-smartphone-profits/



Even worse, for those of you Android fanboys who cannot see that Google is making a big mistake

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/05/03/apple-and-samsung-claim-99-of-profits-among-top-mobile-phone-vendors/

Google did a stupid thing by letting Samsung make the Galaxy Nexus. Samsung takes more than 90% of the total profits in the Android space. LG, Sony et al have been losing. As Samsung's star shines brighter, HTC's and LG's stars keep dimming.

Did you fail to see this qualifier in the Forbes report? Let e re-post it here.

It’s an entirely incorrect number of course, unless we’re very careful about the parameters we’re using. The people who mine and process the tantalum to make the capacitors are making profits and they’re making profits from smartphones’ demand for capacitors. And the people who make the screens and even more the people who provide the airtime which make the phones work.

But if we exclude all of that and look just at who is making a profit from selling the hardware and software for smartphones: well, no, even that’s not true. For Microsoft is making a hefty whack out of license fees on Android systems for example. Some say as much as $1 billion a year for work they did over a decade ago. Which isn’t bad money really.

But if we restrict ourselves just to hardware then it is true. And it shows quite how much Apple is outshining the competition. They’re selling many fewer phones than the competition but they’re making the lion’s share of all the profits. And business is indeed about making a profit, not making a sale.

There is some ignorance on this thread. First off, FRAND patents were part of a legal agreement made by tech companies for cross licensing of industry standard technologies as at the time the agreement was signed. They were patents that were voluntarily surrendered by the holders as part of a legal agreement. 4G/LTE patents were never part of the FRAND agreement as they are relatively new. Even Tim Cook (Apple CEO) just this week called them "the most complicated technologies ever brought to earth". Samsung holds well of over 800 4G/LTE patents. HTC holds over 500 LTE patents. FRAND CANNOT be forced on a patent holder if that patent is not part of the original FRAND agreement. On what legal basis would you do that?

3G technology was part of the FRAND agreement but 4G/LTE IS NOT. I am yet to see how Apple would claim that LTE is FRAND when there is no legally enforceable basis for it i.e not part of FRAND agreement. If a tech company claims a new technology is FRAND and gets away with it, then that sets a dangerous precedent that will come back to bite that tech company when its's competitors willfully infringe on its patents and also claim FRAND. That will hamstring innovation and the patent system.

I HAVE LEARNT A LOT FROM THIS ANDROID VS BB DEBATE . NICE ONE FROM ALL CONTRIBUTORS

Personally , I believe if the unlimited data plan is taken from BB or applied to others . BB will die a natural death