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Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by Rossikk(m): 12:06pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
obowunmi: If the company attempts to liquidate these assets who really has money to buy the excesses of these men and women?? See how you reason like a goat? If you put such assets on the market, they will sell in a week or less, to ready and waiting buyers anywhere in the world!!! Unless you've no clue how to market, or think because you're from Nigeria, nobody will want your wares - an extremely stup.id and ignorant idea given that Nigerians, including ordinary Nigerians, conduct international business transactions worth billions of dollars every month!!! |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by obowunmi(m): 12:13pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
Rossikkk - the menace is back. Seems FOOL is the only word in your d,icktionary. |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by Reference(m): 12:37pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
dj187: i'm sick of people commenting on things in the hope that their comment is 'liked', there are credit bureaus in nigeria On the yellow pages you mean. |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by Reference(m): 12:39pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
A-town: Only if your theory worked. |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by Reference(m): 12:58pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
ProGSM: CBN should take it easy. These guys employ and pay millions of Nigerians. If anything happens to them, Millions will go without food on their table. Hmm. So they employ thousands on loans and hoaxes. My dear, run for ya life. |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by basisop(m): 3:33pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
lozanni: It is in place and working well. Just that most banks still ignore the reports. |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by basisop(m): 3:45pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
Rossikk: This shows how myopic your are in the recovery effort. Most people won't want to buy those properties because of problem. Some of these debtors go as far as threatening the prospective buyers. Banks have properties to sell but no buyer. Most of the collaterals are highly priced and for specific users only. 1 Like |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by Nobody: 6:55pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
I'm yet to see a billionaire who became one without government connections. |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by Onyemola: 7:09pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
Rossikk:[ If he reasons like a goat then you think like a baboon!which market are you talking about? do you think debt recovery is like taking wares to oyingbo market? How many people have money to buy Aircraft or tank farm? AMCON should have involved in management of debtors businesses rather than cutting their lifelines and force them into extinction. Management of a country finace requires a lot of patience and technical approach, Nigeria's case looks too sensational! 1 Like |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by akintun: 10:27pm On Sep 22, 2012 |
I wonder wat d banks balance sheet would look like if dey don't lend dis companies money. Dis companies would continue to default becos of d high interest rate, infact some of dis companies are too big to fail. Nigeria economy is set up to favor d banks, and any single default on a loan at d high rates would automatically lead to d compounding of d loan. It would be good to look at d breakdown of d loan. |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by ojubi(m): 10:20am On Sep 23, 2012 |
My dear cross river and tinnaper, na watin happen na? Dangote nko? Im no de owe? |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by olajide8(m): 12:28pm On Sep 23, 2012 |
Cultured: If Zenon oil ,which Otedola directly own , owes N192.423 billion debts to the banks , it automatically means that he does not has up to N100,000 as a personal money .What's the share capital of zenon oil plz I guess most biznesses including mine are geared 90% on gbese |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by olajide8(m): 12:34pm On Sep 23, 2012 |
Rossikk:Nigerian's and their level of myopic-ness my brother say they should sale better still, market assets to international investor, who would buy, an asset in nigeria where government policies change over night, where what is right is put after what is wrong, even nigerian's themselves don't have sufficient funds to invest in these properties because they would still borrow from the same banks to pay |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by Pukkah: 2:04pm On Sep 23, 2012 |
akintun: I wonder wat d banks balance sheet would look like if dey don't lend dis companies money. Dis companies would continue to default becos of d high interest rate, infact some of dis companies are too big to fail. Nigeria economy is set up to favor d banks, and any single default on a loan at d high rates would automatically lead to d compounding of d loan. It would be good to look at d breakdown of d loan. Interest rate is a function of other factors, e.g. inflation. It is not a making of the banks. High interest rate does not necessarily lead to loan default. There is no company that is 'too big to fail'. basisop: Good comment. Some people don't know that the 'realizability' of a collateral is very important. Realizability is affected by a horde of factors, e.g. location, profile of the debtor/owner, etc. basisop: Are you sure of this? Your statement is unfair to the banks. Naval sadiq: Those companies abroad service and pay their debt.but the case is different in nigeria they would want to use politics to can cancel their gbesse.sanusi well done joor.after pipo weh no sabi anyfin go they criticize you. So why do companies 'abroad' file for bankruptcy? Is there any country in the world where 'loan loss' by banks is zero? That of micro-finance banks (Bangladesh example) is said to be the lowest. Taking a loan without servicing it is very bad anyway. Cultured: : If Zenon oil ,which Otedola directly own , owes N192.423 billion debts to the banks , it automatically means that he does not has up to N100,000 as a personal money It does not 'automatically' mean that until you see his statement of networth. |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by Nobody: 8:35pm On Sep 23, 2012 |
It's precisely this type of policy that makes SLS an empty barrel and portrays GEJ as too corrupt to effect changes in the society. What type of economics or accounting is publishing debts without assets? How I am going to be sure they don't have means to liquidate the debt? What happens if they have the means but simply refuse to do the right thing? Is there no procedure to take over their business, convert their assets to settle the debt? Would you also apply same procedure to a man owning just five million without prosecution? SLS is a square peg in a round hole. One, it's wrong to issue directive to banks to stop transacting business with some entities except it affects national security which is not the case this time. Your leverage is the bank concerned. If they gave loans without collateral, how was it Otedola's problem? Did these guys force the banks to approve the loans? Can't we for once have someone to be punished? Can't we jail someone for flouting the rules? If Banks failed to comply with rules of issuing loans, punish the banks not the borrower. You publish the borrower but refuse to publish their assets and the topnotch who approved huge loans without appropriate collateral and you expect the populace to shout hurray SLS is working. smh. Nigeria is a joke! 2 Likes |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by Xfactoria: 4:01am On Sep 24, 2012 |
bayooooooo: It's precisely this type of policy that makes SLS an empty barrel and portrays GEJ as too corrupt to effect changes in the society. Thanks buddie! Your post is the only one close to logical reasoning here. It is unfortunate that some of us allow sentiments and "bad belle" to becloud our judgment or maybe it is lack of information.Some people here have even criminalize borrowing like Sanusi. too bad. All of these loans in question were not recent. They were given out when the CBN itself was running a Credit Bureau service for the Bank under its Credit Risk Management System (CRMS) and because that system operated a carrot and stick policy, most Banks failed to disclose most of their bad debts. When this became obvious, private Credit Bureaus were licenced and I think there are three of them today. Since coming into the scene of these Bureaus, Banks have become more comfortable in disclosing their bad assets and I know for sure (because I was in the system until July 2012)that those mistakes of the past cannot be repeated again i.e. giving out loans to borrowers with bad credit history. Be that as it may, most of these businesses are not more than 10 - 15years old and almost all of them got those loans for business expansion. With the uncertainty in our economy, it is pretty difficult for certain businesses to thrive. Dansa foods for example lost its vital business segment in the north because of Boko Haram. Its credit default started at about 2-3years ago. Before then, they were ok. Another factor is the lack of long term deposits to finance long term borrowings in Nigeria. Banks lend to finance projects which gestation period would normally be say 10years and give a loan tenor of 4years. Expectedly, the cash generated in 4yrs would not be enough to pay back capital and interests and then CBN comes in, say the loan is bad because customer could not meet the agreed terms and direct banks to make loan loss provisions from their equity. There are many of these loans. The point I am making here is, not all of these guys set out to be bad debtors but that is not taking away the fact that some of them are also bad managers. Now it is a silly thing to publish names of debtors in the national dailies. These loans have been sold to AMCON and AMCON have taken possession of all the collaterals securing the loans. I was part of the process in the Bank where I worked before leaving the country in July. AMCON has all the constitutional means to deal with these bad debts and they have not said that they are incapable. In fact, the law establishing AMCON says none of these debtors can sue AMCON in a bid to prolong court cases where that is ncessary which used to be the case with Banks. So AMCON is government! Sanusi should leave them to do their job and stop whipping sentiments that could even make the job difficult. Banks don't need to be told who to lend to. There is already a CBN requirement that Banks must get satisfactory credit Bureau reports on a borrower before advancing credit to them. In fact, this is the first thing CBN examiners check for on large loans when they call at your Bank and I bet most of the Banks have learnt their lessons and would not flout that rule. Sanusi's latest pronouncement is not needful at all. It is just a show of power and perhaps cleverly aimed at diverting attention from its failed N5000 note move. |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by ProGSM(m): 5:34am On Sep 24, 2012 |
obowunmi: I am not here to exchange words with anyone. But the fact is that to do well in business, you must get loan. No one has all the money needed to grow a big company. What I don't support is not servicing a load. Also, please mind the way you talk. Ok |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by Wahlz(m): 6:43pm On Sep 24, 2012 |
karl max: Banks Stopped From Lending To Otedola, Dantata, 417 OthersAre these individuals grater than the government..just thinking out loud |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by jpphilips(m): 8:30am On Sep 25, 2012 |
1025: the cbn and pdp led govt are all jokes and jokers. if anyone fails, why can't one rich man in nigeria be in jail? the founder of Enron, one of the biggest companies in the world died in american jail. why can't this country be truthful for once? who is even deceiving who? when the masses stood up against subsidy removal, we were shown list of the oil cabals but till date, non of these cabals is facing any serious questioning talk - less of jail terms. it cannot happen because, the govt. Is the cabal |
Re: CBN Stops Otedola, Dantata From Bank Loans by jpphilips(m): 9:03am On Sep 25, 2012 |
ProGSM: CBN should take it easy. These guys employ and pay millions of Nigerians. If anything happens to them, Millions will go without food on their table. i continue to say it, the next administration should make sanusi the EFCC chairman or ICPC director. This man understands only financial malfeasance nothing more, his Economics is zero. Kudos!! All the same |
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