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A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by smile4kenn(m): 4:50am On Jan 15, 2008 |
Former Biafran warlord, Dim Odumegwu-Ojukwu and 63 other Biafran soldiers were on Monday issued cheques for the arrears of their pension 41 years after their disengagement. The former Biafran leader, who spoke before collecting his cheque, said that the camaraderie that existed at the occasion was an indication that a lot of the problems in the country were pretence as Nigerians remained brothers. He said that Nigerians should also recognise that the country was not the first that engaged in a civil war and certainly not the first to have tried to end it. The President of the Senate, Senator David Mark, who also got his pension arrears on Monday, said that he was denied pension and gratuity for over 16 years, because he granted a press interview that was considered offensive to the military. He said that he thought that pension was a right until he was told that he was not entitled to one because he granted an interview castigating the military. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by Germannig: 11:37am On Jan 15, 2008 |
Ojukwu: ‘I’m a General, Calling Me Lt Col is an Insult’ This man is too intelligent and intrepid. An exceptionally confident being |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by Truequest(m): 2:09pm On Jan 15, 2008 |
Not just the rank Ojukwu has got the brain. I doff my hat General Ojukwu. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by grabdbull: 2:19pm On Jan 15, 2008 |
It is just refreshing to know that the process of reconciliation has started in earnest. May this be the beginning of true, genuine comraderie and brotherhood in this nation. I pray for better things for Naija |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by maxsiollun: 4:00am On Jan 16, 2008 |
Ojukwu was a Lt-Colonel in the Nigerian army, and a General only in the Biafran army. He is being paid his pension by the Nigerian army so why should they recognise his Biafran rank? The US government doesn't pay General's pensions to Iraqi Generals, and some governments do not recognise educational accomplishments or driving licenses issued by foreign countries. So why should the Nigerian government recognise the ranks issued by a foreign state? Ojukwu should just be grateful that he is even getting a pension. There are millions of Nigerians and his kinsmen and woman whom he sent into war unarmed who did not have the luxury of spending over a decade abroad in luxurious retirement, marrying a beauty queen, cavorting with the enemy that murdered a million of his people, and then gratefully return to collect cheques from the people he so derided. 1 Like |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by ndubest(m): 9:06am On Jan 16, 2008 |
@maxsiollun I wonder whether you are faning the flame of unity or discord May be you have not EXPERIENCED REAL war, just watching it on CNN No hard feeling but that kind of comment is surely not for the unity of this country cheque or no cheque general or no general Many lives have been lost to unite this country and will should be looking at that and not promoting discord with trivialites how much money will bring back the lives of the dead PEACE TO ALL |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by Germannig: 6:01pm On Jan 16, 2008 |
Max Siollun, the Ogoni man. At last your true self is revealed. You went about at the Nigeria village square (NVS) writing on the civil war and trying to be dispassionate; and here you show whom you really are. Do you think some of us at the NVS don't come to nairaland? Never mind, we shall meet again at the NVS. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by palmwine(m): 3:21am On Jan 17, 2008 |
Nigerians shuold stop the distrust that exist between ethnic groups, we are better off as a united country. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by doyin13(m): 1:20pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
I dont know why you guys are dismissive of maxsiollun's opinion considering he does make a good point. Many ordinary Biafrans who put more at risk have not been so honored to collect a pension or some form of financial recompense. Why isn't anyone taking up their case? |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by Germannig: 1:50pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
Doyin, Why not let Biafrans (mainly Igbos) be the judge of that. How do you judge which Biafran risked more than the other? Besides, Ojukwu was not the only ex-Biafran soldier who received his pension. So what is the fuss about? |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by doyin13(m): 2:05pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
I hate to rain on your parade of nostalgique, but the fact is the war was disastrous for Igbos and Ojukwu was at the centre of it. On whether only Igbos should be the only one to determine effort in the war, well nominally I would agree with you. But the military is a federal institution and the funds being distributed are from the national purse. I think non Igbo opinions do count in that regard. I know of many ex Biafan soldiers living in penury in Lagos without the Public exposure of a Ojukwu who could do with some help as well. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by Germannig: 2:44pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
According to you, Ojukwu was at the centre of the war, yet you make to claim that others risked more than him. Again, you have failed to answer the question. Was Ojukwu the only one paid? If not what is the fuss about? If other Biafran soldiers are still been unpaid, is that Ojukwu's fault? Yes, the money is Nigeria's money and Igbos are Nigerians who have contributed to the said money. Or are they not? |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by bawomol(m): 4:49pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
he should donate some of his pension to the lives of non-igbo Midwesterners he ruined. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by Germannig: 4:57pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
bawomol: I can pass you his phone number so you ask that of him. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by bawomol(m): 5:03pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
I can pass you his phone number so you ask that of him. why would i need his phone number. he would always leave with the guilt of extending a war to the point of humanitarian disaster. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by EmekaNaija(m): 5:10pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
Always been my hero, and always would be my hero. No wonder i was named after him. Truly great men are few and hard to come by. I always love this man and the very day i had the opportunity to look into his eyes,and shook his hands, i knew he was, is, and shall forever remain fearless. Whether we like it or not, he is a General(4 star). How many of these so called generals have led a battalion in warfare? The Ojukwu i know does not need the pensions and would most likely donate it to the ex-Biafran soldiers at Oji river. Unity cannot be achieved by mere words. As Atiku rightly said: Without justice there can be no peace. That is why till tomorow, true patriotic Nigerians would always say that ON ABURI WE STAND. We need true federalism! That is the only hope for Nigeria. anything to the contrary is time wastage. Agaracha musto come back. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by bawomol(m): 5:12pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
he appointed himself a general as a member of the DEFUNCT biafran army. he is a rtd Lt.Col and nothing else. who cares if a general has actual led a battalion in warfare? what matter is that he has the knowledge and trust of his officers to do when needed. Ojukwu's record as a general wasn't so great either. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by EmekaNaija(m): 6:07pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
@Bawomol As they say, different stroke for different folks. All i know was that he was/is a retired general. Your opinion does not matter. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by Germannig: 6:55pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
EmekaNaija: I believe that is what he will do. He is bigger than the so-called pension given to him. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by rikkyjen(m): 8:51pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
Germannig: Yeah right, Yet he collected the pension and thanked Nigeria, the same Nigeria he tried destabilizing at the height of his thirst for war! Do you know when Ojukwu became a joker? Its not even when he came back to marry Bianca, he became comical when he came back home to contest for the 1983 senatorial election. He wanted to be the senate president and also in 2007 under his APGA umbrella. I know most of you would scream national reconcilation, blah blah blah reh reh. But the crux of the matter is that, it is an insult to the gravesite of the more than 1 millon people who died fighting on his side and the hundreds of thousand of kids who died of kwashiorkor, ber-beri, and the lack of protein that drove people to eat lizards and other reptiles in the course of the war! Its is also a bigger insults to those kids studying under the trees innocously when the aerial Bombardment of the Psychopathic war Commander Benjamin Adekunle bombed them out of existence. Those men and kids would be turning in their grave when they know that not only did Ojukwu abscond from the war, but he came home to marry a beauty queen, and that he wanted to be a senate president (was that what those dead souls wanted?)? and the mother of all he sold out and collected a pension worth millions of naira from the same government those 1 million dead souls fought against! No be only General, why not ask for the title of Alhaji! |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by presido1: 9:20pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
If Ojukwu marrying a beauty queen is your problem i dont think you have one. If you dont want Ojukwu to be in your mix then lt him lead his Great Biafra to where ever he want. You dont like him but you dont want to be without him either. He is a General and ex Head of state(Biafra), its your problem if you dont recognise that. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by EmekaNaija(m): 9:58pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
@rikkyjen You must be deluded. Why must you choose to be more catholic than the pope? Why must you cry more than the bereaved? Is it not we that lost our relatives and progenitors in the war? Is it not we that made him Ikemba? Are we not the ones who support him as Ezigbo gburu gburu. Who told you Ojukwu abandoned Biafra and ran away? Do you not know it was the decision of his military council to send him away? have you not heard about the saying that he who runs from a fight lives to fight another day? Have you read Things fall apart? If Ojukwu did not leave and was killed, every one today would be asking: why did he stay back? If you understood the Igbo world view, you would have known better. Till tomoro, we can never abandon Ojukwu because it was a collective decision and he should be honored for having the courage to lead in those terrible times in our history. He is a true hero. Did you ever watch, National treasure book of secrets? History would surely vindicate Ojukwu when Gowon and others are courageous enough to speak up on the events of the war. Most likely at their (Gowon and co) dying beds. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by rikkyjen(m): 10:34pm On Jan 18, 2008 |
Why must you choose to be more catholic than the pope? Why must you cry more than the bereaved? Is it not we that lost our relatives and progenitors in the war? Is it not we that made him Ikemba? Are we not the ones who support him as Ezigbo gburu gburu. Oh thats good and i hope the igbos stop reminding the rest of Nigeria about the scars of the civil war, because it seems to be the first thing young Igbos are inculcated with. Who told you Ojukwu abandoned Biafra and ran away? Do you not know it was the decision of his military council to send him away? have you not heard about the saying that he who runs from a fight lives to fight another day? Have you read Things fall apart? The Military coucnil sent him away? Who led the military council? was it you or me? Was it not Ojukwu? Succintly put, he sent himself away. Its absurd you restrict yourself to "things fall apart" in a bid to butress your point about Ojukwu's cowardice. He led his men to the brink of death and later fled the country and you are telling me about Okonkwo's debacle. what is Okonkwo's business with Ojukwu? Do they share the same fate or were their circumstances the same? You need to read books. Infact i would even recommend the book of Fredrick Forsythe which is a stupid and a ass-licking book anywaw[s][/s], One of Ojukwu's apologist. Yeah, go and read that first before reading more balanced and impartial books about the civil war! Did you ever watch, National treasure book of secrets? WTF are you talking about? As a non igbo, i would say this is even condescending to liken the plights of the Igbo to a fictional work from the streets of Hollywood. Wetin we no go hear? I hope you wont come back and say Cage and Jon Voigt have biafran ancestry |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by EmekaNaija(m): 1:48am On Jan 19, 2008 |
@rikkyjen I like your sense of humor. You made me laugh. The Igbos have long moved on after the war. It is not inculcation, it is a true story of bravery. I understand you were taught from a victor's perspective, but as we all know truth can never be suppresed. It is like oil which would always float on water. So, relax. Gowon is suffering from guilty conscience that's why he's been going round the country praying. The Biafran military council is like IBB's AFRC or Abacha's SMC. It is not made of one person. It consists of all top military leaders and ministers. That is why i do not blame IBB solely for June 12 and do not blame Abacha alone too. You can call it cowardice, it is only a foolish general that does not retreat when he knows his troops has been defeated. I wonder what you were taught in secondary school. I raised Okonkwo's story as an illustration about the Igbo world view. Okonkwo is a tragic hero in things fall apart. It describes how Okonkwa rashly killed a British messenger, and his people backed away in fear and no one supported him, which leads to his commiting suicide- which is a shameful and disgraceful death. Whatever you do, you need the people's support. I hope you understand the illustration now. I have read Forsythe's book because i'm involved. Are you so dumb? When i asked you about the National treasure book of secrets, i wasn't trying to relate the plights of Igbos to the work of fiction. I only tried to get your mind thinking. I wanted to get you to think how Gates was later found to be a war hero instead of villain he was presumed to be. It took years before his case was proved by his grandson. thats exactly what would happen but this time around Gowon and even Obasanjo would surely make confessions, most likely on their dying beds. Lies do not survive for too long. Truth always prevails. Lest we do not forget, Ojukwu remains A four star General, not a Lt.Colonel. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by maxsiollun: 7:56am On Jan 19, 2008 |
Germanning, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. I don't know how you think you have managed to decipher my ethnic origin through a computer screen since we have never met nor seen each other. What does my ethnicity have to do with the subject of Ojukwu's rank? Anyway, it always astonishes me how some people foam at the mouth at even the lightest criticism of Ojukwu. Only in Nigeria could a man who led his people in a disastrous war against a better armed enemy with no chance of a military victory, could be declared a hero. Note that these pensions were paid to only those Biafran soldiers that were also former officers of the Nigerian army. What about the thousands of poor, mutilated, wounded, dead others who fought for Biafra and have nothing to show for it? What of their widows, parents, and the orphaned? Did they get a pension? I simply realise that Ojukwu (like all human beings) is not infallible. Perhaps it is time some others did too. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by EmekaNaija(m): 9:59pm On Jan 19, 2008 |
Only in Nigeria could a man who led his people in a disastrous war against a better armed enemy with no chance of a military victory, could be declared a hero. @Maxsiolum Since you were intelligent enough to notice that even though it was a disastrous war, Ojukwu still remains a hero among his people. You should have been more intelligent to find out why. You should have found out why even after 38years, millions of false propaganda, yet the people know the truth. |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by maxsiollun: 2:17am On Jan 22, 2008 |
Emeka, and "the truth" is? |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by Planner(m): 2:28pm On Jan 22, 2008 |
Emeka, and "the truth" is? The truth is Nigeria is not suppose to be one country as OPC, MASSOB and Niger-Delta millitants are saying. You must be silly not to have known the truth by now. Or are u a parasitic Hausa man? |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by darfur(m): 2:51pm On Jan 22, 2008 |
i give my praise to the yarasleep administration for trying to restore some order/peace and reconciliation. and Ojukwu should shut up and take his pay. he should enjoy the moment of recognition and reconciliation and not heat up the system and start another argument and hate. maxsiollun: i agree (and i'm IGBO born and bred) maxsiollun: i do |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by maxsiollun: 4:18pm On Jan 22, 2008 |
Emeka,I ordinarily don't respond to insulting posts, but I will make an exception. Since you are so fascinated by my ethnicity (revealing your own prejudices), to answer your question - no I am not "a parasitic Hausa man" (whatver that is - is that an ethnic groupin Nigeria?!) You should learn to debate and constructively disagree with others without resorting to personal abuse. They take away from what might otherwise be valid points you make. [ Planner: author=Planner link=topic=105696.msg1875719#msg1875719 date=1201008482] The truth is Nigeria is not suppose to be one country as OPC, MASSOB and Niger-Delta millitants are saying. You must be silly not to have known the truth by now. Or are u a parasitic Hausa man? [quote][/quote] |
Re: A Last! Ojukwu, Ex-biafran Soldiers Get Pension 41 Years After by ishmael(m): 5:04pm On Jan 22, 2008 |
Make una leave dat man alone jo. The man try. He had a good reason for going into war with Gowon. Ibos were being slaughthered like ram and chiken and u expect Ojukwu not to declare Biafra republic and ask all ibos to come back home?? Till today ibos are still being killed in the north by hausa/fulani, why?? Ojukwu fought a just war, although he was not strong enough to win. |
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