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Re: How ‘religious Defamation’ Laws Would Ban Islam by Nobody: 2:29pm On Sep 30, 2012 |
vedaxcool: Solitary confinement breeds insanity!Poverty of ideas at play. |
Re: How ‘religious Defamation’ Laws Would Ban Islam by MacDaddy01: 4:20pm On Sep 30, 2012 |
Reyginus: Poverty of ideas at play. Ouch!!! |
Re: How ‘religious Defamation’ Laws Would Ban Islam by seyibrown(f): 5:24pm On Sep 30, 2012 |
carefulme: Oh, come off it! Art thou a stranger to the Quran! Don't need no obscene videos or cartoons to tell me about Prophet Mo; The Quran and Hadiths already record his deeds in good enough detail! Movies are usually rubbish versions of a book, as we already know ... they leave out the best bits! |
Re: How ‘religious Defamation’ Laws Would Ban Islam by vedaxcool(m): 6:20pm On Sep 30, 2012 |
Evidently Solitary confinement breeds dual insanity! |
Re: How ‘religious Defamation’ Laws Would Ban Islam by cyrexx: 8:01pm On Sep 30, 2012 |
what these muslims dont know is that their religion is a blatant defamation to humanity.
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Re: How ‘religious Defamation’ Laws Would Ban Islam by carefulme(m): 8:09pm On Sep 30, 2012 |
seyibrown: Of course this is tolerable.......... ......... i.e keeping YOUR IDEA OF MUHAMMED in your head, typing it with your hands or saying it with your mouth etc......all of course TO THE RIGHT AUDIENCE....... ...........and not gather people with the intention to act a movie of the idea in your head, post it in places as public as YouTube or a newspaper for all to see and expect that it remains just as tolerable as the other methods above......... |
Re: How ‘religious Defamation’ Laws Would Ban Islam by ParisLove2(f): 8:10pm On Sep 30, 2012 |
carefulme:arabic words you translated from infidels to unbelievers is kafir. Yes, the word kafir is a "legal term" denoting non-Muslims; and yes, most modern English Qurans translate it as "non-believer." However , and as you know fully well, the word kafir (plural, kafirin ) is heavy laden with negative associations, or, as I originally wrote, it "connotes 'enemies,' 'evil-doers,' and every bad thing to Muslim ears." Accordingly, Sharia mandates hostility for kafirin —war and subjugation when they are weak, deception and smooth-talk when they are strong. Quran 2: 98 simply declares that "Allah is the enemy of kafirin "—regardless of whether we translate that word as "infidels" or "non-believers. In fact, doctrine aside, consider how the Quran aloneportrays "non-believers": they are "guilty" and"unjust" (10:17, 45:31, 68:35); terror is to be cast intheir hearts for their injustice (3:151); they are"disliked" and "accursed" by Allah (2:89, 3:32, 33:64); they are the "vilest of beasts" (8:55, 98:6), like "cattle" and "devoid of understanding" (47:12, 8:65); and "enemies" to Muslims (4:101). And why are "non-believers" described thus? Simplybecause they are non-believers—because they are infidels . And as for your quotes @ bolded. what if a Christian book or Western movie appeared declaring that “ unbelievers are they who say Muhammad is the prophet of God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, there will surely afflict the disbelievers among them a painful punishment. If Muslims would consider that a great defamation against Islam—and they would, with the attendant rioting, murders, etc.—then by the same standard it must be admitted that the Quran defames Christians and Christianity. |
Re: How ‘religious Defamation’ Laws Would Ban Islam by ParisLove2(f): 8:46pm On Sep 30, 2012 |
and of course this translation is also different from it sister translations....the same argument holds for it as aboveWill you find any movie or cartoon that says That says and the muslims have said Allah is God" That is the saying with their mouths, they imitate those that believed. May God destroy the. it's make no difference if they write in a book, through cartoon or with a movie. ....Christians and Muslims have over the years held many beliefs that are contrary to each other.....and not many eyebrows have been raised because of thia......unless pushed beyond the tolerance of some(e.g intentionally putting mocking pictures of prophet in public places to incite violence and hate)Allah decided to deride the belief of Christians through a book, if Christians decides to do deride Muhammad with cartoons in public places that's their choice. ..... and finallyYou forgot that Christians have always believed that Jesus is son of God hundreds of years before muhammad showed up with Allah. Don't you think Allah and mo should've respected that belief? So what if those mocking your prophet are members of a new religion that believes allah and mo re false? Your religion started the blasphemy 1st. .....so if u think our prophet is a superman of sex, a craddle-robber, a racist etc.....please keep it in your head or within the boundaries of your screen or book(i.e less expressive or more tolerable) rather than make it more explicit by making caricatures and videos of it in places as public as youtube and expects that it still be tolerable to most Muslims as it is the numerous profane statements of non-muslim Nairalanders about Islam.....Lol, @ bold. Go and give Muhammad that same advice. If he thinks that Jesus or uzar of jews is not the son of god, he should please keep it in his head But atlas the deed is done. So if christians or jews decides to return the favor, you don't reserve the right to tell them how to do it. What makes you think that if allah and mo has videos and cartoons during their days they won't use it? And yes you muslims should tolerate the mockery just like christians and jews have tolerated the numerous profane states of allah like; Quran 2:96 And verily you will find them (Jews) the greediest of mankind for life and (even greedier)than those who ascribe partners to Allah ( and do not believe in Resurrection-Majus,pagans and idolators). |
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